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Why the sikhs had no desire for a independent sikh state in the 1940s?

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Why did the sikhs not have any desire fir a independent sikh kingdom during the 1940s?

an independent sikh state would be independent, not part of Pakistan nor India but could choosh friendship with both

a independent sikh kingdom

Pakistani west Punjab was muslim majority as was Lahore and off limits but a east punjab with a sikh majority after Partition was a reality

Jinnah didnt offer annexation just support for a independent sikh Kingdom

so a independent sikh kingdom
their own government
their own state
their own laws
their own flag
their own identity
their own army with sikh symbols
their own airforce
ruled by sikhs for sikhs

at peace with both Pakistan and india


why choosh minority status with the risk of any flare-up resulting in the minority being pissed on like the sikhs were in the 1980s

the sikhs had a kingdom for a shortwhile in the 1700s this would have been the modern sikh manifestation of that Kingdom recognised by Pakistan, india and even the U.N

plenty of small states have flourished a sikh state could have too, why choosh minority status among 1.3 billion


the above was a reply in another thread but I thought the question deserved its own thread
Perhaps you have not fully read about the subject. A handful of sikhs under the leadership of Master Tara Singh did advocate an independent punjabi state for sikhs but they did not get much support from the majority of the sikhs. However, Master Tara Singh is revered in India for his contribution to India's freedom movement and his role during the partition to save the sikhs from being butchered by the muslims. Many doubt that it was at his behest that sikhs counter butchered muslims during the partition. He got Haryana carved out of Punjab in 1966 where sikhs had majority.

Secondly its unthinkable that sikhs will ever forgive and forget muslims for the persecution of their religious gurus. The rest of India has muslim population in almost all villages and cities but the sikhs ensured that their villages and cities were clean of muslims.

Third, sikhs and hindus are culturally integrated. You will often see a Sikh Man marrying a hindu woman and vice-versa with full social acceptance and without anyone raising any question about it.

Fourth, you are talking about Sikh Kingdom in the time of democracy when so called Maharaja of Patiala goes door to door seeking votes. Democracy is yet to sink in the thought process of Pakistanis.

Fifth, knowing sikhs, Jinnah supporting a sikh state would have made sikhs oppose it without a second thought. Sikhs do not trust muslims.

Six, when a sikh can rule the 100% of India why he would restrict himself to just 2% of it. A sikh was PM of India for continuously 10 years and it never occurred to anyone that a minority was PM.

Now you tell me why didn't all muslims choose to go to Pakistan?
Why they accepted to live in India in minority?
Why didn't Shias demand an independent Shia state in Pakistan?
Why Shias live in minority in Pakistan and not have an independent Shia state for themselves like Iran?
 
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You must have mistaken your dad for my mom since you haven't been to India :lol: .... all that long hair must have confused you.

Ever ask you mom about the Afro men in the US ? She might even tell you about your real father and that will be the day you will stop hating dark men :agree:

Nope I make sure the bitch says "aiyyo jalli kattu" every time I finger bang her :lol: Then she tells me how lucky she is to be able to be touched by an Aryan and thanks me.

Now whoa.. I don't hate dark men.. I just hate dark men who are short smelly and without a spine.. Like you faggots :lol:
 
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Because there is no inherent conflict between Hinduism and Sikhism.

In Punjab and Delhi,You can find many cases of one son being Sikh and rest of the family being Hindu.

In Indian Punjab, 54% is Sikh and rest 46% is Hindu, Did anyone heard of religious riots in Punjab? Never
 
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You must have mistaken your dad for my mom

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You just called your mom a guy.

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@CleanWell in their heart of hearts even they know how they look...
 
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There is a big problem with our bureaucracy or should I say the system- Sikhs are not alone in all this- I should say had the Sikhs been supported the say way the Muslims were after Gujarat 2002 and cases were to be monitored by the SC then the story could have been a little different- Even though I still believe It would've had to get Justice simply because the Congressi system would've been too strong- Even today it is very strong- Irrespective of who runs the Government-

There are Two big differences between 1984 and 2002 Riots

That is as follows

After 1984 till 1998 there was Congress Government at the centre or
Congress supported Governments such as Gowda and Gujral

WHereas in 2004 there came a Congress Govt in Centre to make
LIFE difficult for Gujarat Govt

And Secondly the SUPREME Court got involved with Gujarat Riot cases
with SITs ;Transferring cases etc etc

And finally Media pressure also worked

There was no media in 1984

Most people came to know after 15 days
 
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Ok first thing I agree with you about. :tup:

If I was a religious bigot, I would have resorted to religious attacks a long time ago. You've tried to provoke me enough o_O

LOL...... your "Hindu bhaiya" post was enough to show your true nature. Spare me the crocodile tears. :tdown:
 
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There are Two big differences between 1984 and 2002 Riots

That is as follows

After 1984 till 1998 there was Congress Government at the centre or
Congress supported Governments such a Gowda and Gujral

WHereas in 2004 there came a Congress Govt in Centre to make
LIFE difficult for Gujarat Govt

And Secondly the SUPREME Court got involved with Gujarat Riot cases
with SITs ;Transferring cases etc etc

And finally Media pressure also worked

There was no media in 1984

Most people came to know after 15 days

I am talking about the Congress ecosystem in the bureaucracy or the System- It is very strong even Today- When you see congress totally decimated-
 
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Oh please, I didn't start it.



Leave me alone and I will do the same.

Its pretty obvious that you are here to provoke "bhayye", so dont act so innocent when you actually succeede. And some of the things you say about south indians are really disgusting and not worthy of a fellow punjabi. i travel to south india a lot and have all but respect for them. so when a fellow punjabi act the way you do, i get annoyed. and you do realize that the pakistanis here "leave you alone" cos they see you as someone anti-india-hindu right?
 
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LOL...... your "Hindu bhaiya" post was enough to show your true nature. Spare me the crocodile tears. :tdown:

lol Only the bhaiyya part was a slur. The Hindu part meant that you were not a Sikh and not familiar with the history of Sikhism. Like I give a shit, carry on.
 
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300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg


You just called your mom a guy.

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@CleanWell in their heart of hearts even they know how they look...

Nope I just called his dad a enuch with long hair.

Did my post remind you too much of your family ? I understand you pain.
 
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