Why The Persians Should Be The Good Guys In '300' - Hilarious Helmet History #1

[One-Above-All]

lol @ hebrew scources. He released the jews for propaganda reasons. Meanwhile killed babylonian priests en mass.

Palestianians celebrate Hitler as hero. I guess if we go by that standard he was a hero?

No oriental ruler ever was in any way positive. There is zero individualism in oriental history and thats the problem. Because of that philosophy or science never developed there.

Science and reasoing are things that only exist in Greece and Roman history and to a degree in China.

When we compare art this becomes even more evident:

Persian statues:

Its plain and simple clumsy. Like a block. There is no style and no movement.

If we compare with a roman statue:

The interesting question is why the persian art lacks that quality? I think evry human being can be able to make awesome art. Its often the culture that prevents them from doing so.

So why was persian art so simplistic? As a roman i would want a statue from me that looks like me, and not some clumsy clay shit.

LMAO. It's clear to me now that your one of those "Roman history buffs", so you can't/won't judge natural no matter what. They released the Jews for propaganda reasons?! Everything they did was for "Propaganda" reasons but what Romans did was because they were pure of heart? Other people didn't have any civilization, only Romans had? Some Palestinians may like hitler but the written history considers him as a mass murderer (It's funny that you mention him cause the Nazis considered themselves to be the successor state of Roman Empire), Now you may don't like Cyrus but the written history considers him to be a great man. In fact if you think about it, they ideas that they had was really modern for that time, considering people were being massacred through out the history cause they didn't worship the exact same God.
P.S: What statues have to do with this discussion? You want to prove your point by comparing the statues? This is the dumbest reason that i can think of, I am right because this statue lack the quality?!

 

[ValerioAurelius]

LMAO. It's clear to me now that your one of those "Roman history buffs", so you can't/won't judge natural no matter what. They released the Jews for propaganda reasons?! Everything they did was for "Propaganda" reasons but what Romans did was because they were pure of heart? Other people didn't have any civilization, only Romans had? Some Palestinians may like hitler but the written history considers him as a mass murderer (It's funny that you mention him cause the Nazis considered themselves to be the successor state of Roman Empire), Now you may don't like Cyrus but the written history considers him to be a great man. In fact if you think about it, they ideas that they had was really modern for that time, considering people were being massacred through out the history cause they didn't worship the exact same God.
P.S: What statues have to do with this discussion? You want to prove your point by comparing the statues? This is the dumbest reason that i can think of, I am right because this statue lack the quality?!

Cyrus was a tyrant like all others as well.

But tell me, how do you explain the lack of quality in their Art?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

As Thema study i showed you says, you talk bullshit. There ist Zero influence in our DNA.

It shows that you don't even read your own source. The report said that there is "little" tampering with the R1b gene. How little is up for debate. While it is true the alps might prevent mass migration but it doesn't stop all of them germanic 253 genes is more present in the north in the south. This should at least proves that there is evidence of genetic tampering. Which sorta explain why both north & southern italian are completely different from one another.

Mate Cyrus is a saint compared to the roman pantheon of dictator & monster.

 

[Dexon]

So why was persian art so simplistic? As a roman i would want a statue from me that looks like me, and not some clumsy clay shit.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

It shows that you don't even read your own source. The report said that there is "little" tampering with the R1b gene. How little is up for debate. While it is true the alps might prevent mass migration but it doesn't stop all of them germanic 253 genes is more present in the north in the south. This should at least proves that there is evidence of genetic tampering. Which sorta explain why both north & southern italian are completely different from one another.

Mate Cyrus is a saint compared to the roman pantheon of dictator & monster.

I consider all non roman history as nonsense and worthless. Idk what you try here ha ha

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I consider all non roman history as nonsense and worthless. Idk what you try here ha ha

Then you have drunk the kool-aid. Roman history are impressive but so does others. I still remember how you get your butt handed to you by a chinese when you compare civilization. The roman history doesn't look good now does it.

You should open your mind. I did my paper on the nubian civilization & I find them to be more fascinating than the roman one. Maybe you would find one to that peak your interest.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Then you have drunk the kool-aid. Roman history are impressive but so does others. I still remember how you get your butt handed to you by a chinese when you compare civilization. The roman history doesn't look good now does it.

You should open your mind. I did my paper on the nubian civilization & I find them to be more fascinating than the roman one. Maybe you would find one to that peak your interest.

I only care dir my ancestors history and those that Touch it, Like greece for example.

 

[Jaanbaz]

How Xerxes looked like.......

Clearly not some shemale from Brazil with tan on. Hollywood has a habit of dehumanising people from Middle East.

 

[Gothic]

the rise of the persian empire was with the mithraic sycthinas , and the fall of it too. it's a wikipedian lie to say darius invaded europe to battle scythians , it was with the help of the scythians.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

How Xerxes looked like.......

Clearly not some shemale from Brazil with tan on. Hollywood has a habit of dehumanising people from Middle East.

Well xerxes was a weakling. Never hold a sword himself. He was decadent and ordered to whip the sea because the mediterranean destroyed his bridge.

Also you say Hollywood dehumanize people from middle east. How are non muslims portraied in your culture?

 

[Gothic]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka


For the land of the Saka under the Sassanid dynasty, see Sakastan. Not to be confused with the Sakha, the endonym of the Yakut people of Siberia. For other uses, see Saka (disambiguation).

Scythia and Parthia in about 170 BC (before the Yuezhi invaded Bactria).
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The Saka or Saca (Persian: old Sakā, mod. ساکا; Sanskrit: Śaka; Ancient Greek: Σάκαι, Sákai; Latin: Sacae; Chinese: 塞, old *Sək, mod. Sāi)[a] was the term used in Persian and Sanskrit sources for the Scythians, a large group of Eastern Iranian nomadic tribes on the Eurasian Steppe.[2][3][4] Modern scholars usually use the term Saka to refer to Iranians of the Eastern Steppe and the Tarim Basin.[5] René Grousset wrote that they formed a particular branch of the "Scytho-Sarmatian family" originating from nomadic Iranian peoples of the northwestern steppe in Eurasia.[6] They migrated into Sogdiana and Bactria in Central Asia and then to the northwest of the Indian subcontinent where they were known as the Indo-Scythians. In the Tarim Basin and Taklamakan desert region of Northwest China, they settled in Khotan and Kashgar which were at various times vassals to greater powers, such as the Han and Tang dynasties of Imperial China.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Some people claim that the Kalash people are some of the remenants of Soldiers that came with Alexander the great and they were left over and later just forgot to go back

That's bullshit my friend. The Kalash are pretty much native to this region, their religion has links with Vedic cults/religion.

Also you say Hollywood dehumanize people from middle east. How are non muslims portraied in your culture?

Your opinions are irrelevant because you're adopted.

 

[Gothic]

The Parthian peace process and the birth of Jesus

https://democracy.blogactiv.eu/2015/12/17/the-parthian-peace-process-and-the-birth-of-jesus/


Is there any event equivalent in history to Europe’s extraordinary peace record? Europe is living in the longest peace in its known history. That peace was based on supranational principles and initiated by Robert Schuman after a lifetime’s work.

An amazing peace process took place two thousand years ago between two fighting superpowers. They divided the planet as much as the Soviet Union and the USA did in recent times. And conflict covered the exact area that is the source of today’s conflict in the Near and Middle East — Turkey, Israel, Syria, Iraq and Iran.

In the middle of the earth at the point of contact of these two superpowers lay Israel. It was conquered first by one power, the Roman Empire and then by the other, the Parthian Empire. Who won? Rome was humiliated. Its armies were decimated. It renounced any further attacks on the superpower of the East.

Then a peace treaty was forged. At this time and because of this peace, trade was boosted from the Far East to Gaul in the West. An era of prosperity allowed the Temple at Jerusalem to be rebuilt.



During this Augustan-Parthian peace, Jesus Christ was born at Bethlehem. Why have most Europeans not learned the facts behind this key event in Christian civilization? What did most people learn about the Parthian Empire at school or even university?

Yet every year many people send each other cards with Parthians on them. Who are they? The Magi! Why does the real identity of the Magi remain obscure to most people?





Early in the Middle Ages great confusion, not to say false propaganda, arose about the supposed three Magi who visited the infant Jesus in Bethlehem. First, it is important to go to the record itself in the New Testament (NT) and get the facts.

* There were not three Magi. The number is not specified. It is only stated that they brought three types of gifts, gold, frankincense and myrrh.
* The Magi came from the East. No names are mentioned.
* The event took place more than a year after the birth of Jesus as he is called a ‘toddler’ in Greek. That means he was about a year and a half old.
* No other children are mentioned which means that James, the brother of Jesus, was probably not yet born.
* The visit took place in Bethlehem. When Jesus was born, the David’s ancestral home no longer existed. Why? Because Herod the Great had destroyed all trace of the Davidic dynasty and the ‘castle’ of David there. James says in Acts 15, that the ‘Tabernacle of David had fallen down’. Herod did not hesitate to kill off his own sons and wives if he thought they would usurp him. It is therefore certain that he would wipe out any trace of a Davidic dynasty he could find.

The NT says that at the time of the Magi’s visit Joseph had a house there. How come? Joseph was of direct royal lineage. He had the temerity and obligation to register the lands of David as his own. The registration took place as the first one under Quirinus, governor of Syria. (He made two.) This coincided with the celebration of twenty-five years of Augustus’s reign and the 750th anniversary of the foundation of the city of Rome. (See Dr Ernest L Martin: The Star that astonished the World).

Augustus was proclaimed Pater Patriae, Father of the Fatherland. Prominent citizens were required to register their smaller fatherlands and acclaim allegiance to Caesar. Thus Joseph registered his right under Roman and Israelite laws as patriarch of the tribe of Judah. This was a very dangerous move as his life was at immediate risk by Herod. But Joseph also had protection under Roman law. Herod could not simply kill a Davidic son without Roman acquiescence. As James said, the ruins were prophesied by Amos to be rebuilt.

So why in the Middle Ages did the Magi become a source of controversy? Firstly, the Magi were not Christian or even Jewish as far as the ignorant scholars of the time could say. People asked: why did pagans come and worship the infant Jesus? Why did they come at all? How many were there? Why didn’t Herod kill them?

The answers are clear once we understand the dilemma faced by the Roman State Church founded under Constantine in the 300s CE. Constantine’s amalgam of paganism and Christianity replaced Rome’s ancient pantheon. The Roman Empire had its capital in Constantinople, today’s Istanbul.

The lasting shame of the Roman Empire is that it destroyed the kingdom of Judah, its capital Jerusalem and its Temple. The term ‘Magi’ relates to the rival super power of Rome, the Parthian Empire. It extended from the River Euphrates to India and modern Afghanistan. Parthians traded with the Far East. It was a feudal confederation of kingdoms, not a military dictatorship like Rome.







The Head of the Parthian Empire was called Arsaces, ‘King of kings’. A single dynasty had a succession of 30 Arsakoi kings. They ruled from 255 BCE for nearly half a millennium, more than any dynasty there before or since. The kings were selected, elected and sometimes rejected by a Council of Wisemen, priestly scientists. Its name? The Magi! (See Rawlinson’s Parthia or Steven M Collins: Parthia, Forgotten Ancient Super-power.) Rawlinson says that Parthia divided ‘with Rome … the sovereignty of the earth.’

There is good reason why Europeans are so ignorant about Rome’s super-power rival. The Magi again! The paradox became an intense political problem for the Roman Empire of Constantinople. Why? Because, although the ruling Arsakoi tribes of the Parthian Empire had migrated by then, the Roman Empire was still at war with the successor Sassanian Persian Empire.

It was excruciatingly painful for the priests of the Roman ‘Mother Church’ to explain why the Magi of Persia had worshiped the infant Jesus and the Roman Empire had destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple. Parthia worshiped Jesus. Rome pillaged Jerusalem and destroyed the Jews. How could Romans justify a Christian heritage?

The Roman Mother Church therefore blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus although the crucifixion was conducted by the Roman soldiers, under Roman imperial authority and with Roman nails.

As for the Magi, they became non-persons. They were reduced to just three foreigners. But in reality the Magi helped govern Parthia. They performed a similar task to the Levitical priesthood for the Israelitish kings.

Were there three Magi or more? We can say with near certainty that there were not three but many thousands! The Parthians were highly mobile and had several capitals. They traveled in massive, opulent, oriental style. The general selected by King Orodes to fight the Roman invader Crassus arrived with two hundred litters for his concubines. A thousand camels carried his personal baggage. A body of ten thousand horsemen and slaves served his personal needs. The Magi, the resplendently rich Parthian kingmakers, would have come to Jerusalem in their thousands or not at all!

This is how Matthew’s gospel describes the scene:

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judah in the days of Herod the king,

BEHOLD! There came wise men (Magi) from the East to Jerusalem, saying:

‘Where is he that is born King of the Jews? … We are come to do homage to him.

When Herod heard this, he was troubled and all Jerusalem with him.

The word ‘troubled’ can better be translated ‘terrified’, ‘set in a tumult’ ‘consternated’.

Parthia had forged a peace treaty with Rome two decades earlier. This came after Roman legions had been grossly humiliated. In 55 BCE the avaricious Consul Crassus sought booty. Crassus, he of the saying ‘as rich as Crassus,’ was the powerful oligarch of Rome. Parthian king Orodes slaughtered his 40,000 strong legions. Presented with his severed head during a performance of the Euripides play ‘Bacchae’, Orodes filled its mouth with molten gold, mocking him to drink to his fill. In 40 BCE Parthia invaded Judea and deposed the Roman-selected high priest at the Temple and installed another, Antigonus. In 37 BCE Mark Antony invaded Parthia with a massive 16 legions of 100,000 men. They were decimated. He barely escaped with his life. In 34 Julius Caesar planned to attack Parthia. He was assassinated in Rome.

If in the next few days you hear people talking about ‘Three wise men’, you can tell them, ‘It’s time to wise up on the Parthian Magi!’

Today’s leaders need to remind themselves how this area of an amazing peace, became again the furnace of conflict.

 

[padamchen]

The Parthian peace process and the birth of Jesus

https://democracy.blogactiv.eu/2015/12/17/the-parthian-peace-process-and-the-birth-of-jesus/


Is there any event equivalent in history to Europe’s extraordinary peace record? Europe is living in the longest peace in its known history. That peace was based on supranational principles and initiated by Robert Schuman after a lifetime’s work.

An amazing peace process took place two thousand years ago between two fighting superpowers. They divided the planet as much as the Soviet Union and the USA did in recent times. And conflict covered the exact area that is the source of today’s conflict in the Near and Middle East — Turkey, Israel, Syria, Iraq and Iran.

In the middle of the earth at the point of contact of these two superpowers lay Israel. It was conquered first by one power, the Roman Empire and then by the other, the Parthian Empire. Who won? Rome was humiliated. Its armies were decimated. It renounced any further attacks on the superpower of the East.

Then a peace treaty was forged. At this time and because of this peace, trade was boosted from the Far East to Gaul in the West. An era of prosperity allowed the Temple at Jerusalem to be rebuilt.



During this Augustan-Parthian peace, Jesus Christ was born at Bethlehem. Why have most Europeans not learned the facts behind this key event in Christian civilization? What did most people learn about the Parthian Empire at school or even university?

Yet every year many people send each other cards with Parthians on them. Who are they? The Magi! Why does the real identity of the Magi remain obscure to most people?





Early in the Middle Ages great confusion, not to say false propaganda, arose about the supposed three Magi who visited the infant Jesus in Bethlehem. First, it is important to go to the record itself in the New Testament (NT) and get the facts.

* There were not three Magi. The number is not specified. It is only stated that they brought three types of gifts, gold, frankincense and myrrh.
* The Magi came from the East. No names are mentioned.
* The event took place more than a year after the birth of Jesus as he is called a ‘toddler’ in Greek. That means he was about a year and a half old.
* No other children are mentioned which means that James, the brother of Jesus, was probably not yet born.
* The visit took place in Bethlehem. When Jesus was born, the David’s ancestral home no longer existed. Why? Because Herod the Great had destroyed all trace of the Davidic dynasty and the ‘castle’ of David there. James says in Acts 15, that the ‘Tabernacle of David had fallen down’. Herod did not hesitate to kill off his own sons and wives if he thought they would usurp him. It is therefore certain that he would wipe out any trace of a Davidic dynasty he could find.

The NT says that at the time of the Magi’s visit Joseph had a house there. How come? Joseph was of direct royal lineage. He had the temerity and obligation to register the lands of David as his own. The registration took place as the first one under Quirinus, governor of Syria. (He made two.) This coincided with the celebration of twenty-five years of Augustus’s reign and the 750th anniversary of the foundation of the city of Rome. (See Dr Ernest L Martin: The Star that astonished the World).

Augustus was proclaimed Pater Patriae, Father of the Fatherland. Prominent citizens were required to register their smaller fatherlands and acclaim allegiance to Caesar. Thus Joseph registered his right under Roman and Israelite laws as patriarch of the tribe of Judah. This was a very dangerous move as his life was at immediate risk by Herod. But Joseph also had protection under Roman law. Herod could not simply kill a Davidic son without Roman acquiescence. As James said, the ruins were prophesied by Amos to be rebuilt.

So why in the Middle Ages did the Magi become a source of controversy? Firstly, the Magi were not Christian or even Jewish as far as the ignorant scholars of the time could say. People asked: why did pagans come and worship the infant Jesus? Why did they come at all? How many were there? Why didn’t Herod kill them?

The answers are clear once we understand the dilemma faced by the Roman State Church founded under Constantine in the 300s CE. Constantine’s amalgam of paganism and Christianity replaced Rome’s ancient pantheon. The Roman Empire had its capital in Constantinople, today’s Istanbul.

The lasting shame of the Roman Empire is that it destroyed the kingdom of Judah, its capital Jerusalem and its Temple. The term ‘Magi’ relates to the rival super power of Rome, the Parthian Empire. It extended from the River Euphrates to India and modern Afghanistan. Parthians traded with the Far East. It was a feudal confederation of kingdoms, not a military dictatorship like Rome.







The Head of the Parthian Empire was called Arsaces, ‘King of kings’. A single dynasty had a succession of 30 Arsakoi kings. They ruled from 255 BCE for nearly half a millennium, more than any dynasty there before or since. The kings were selected, elected and sometimes rejected by a Council of Wisemen, priestly scientists. Its name? The Magi! (See Rawlinson’s Parthia or Steven M Collins: Parthia, Forgotten Ancient Super-power.) Rawlinson says that Parthia divided ‘with Rome … the sovereignty of the earth.’

There is good reason why Europeans are so ignorant about Rome’s super-power rival. The Magi again! The paradox became an intense political problem for the Roman Empire of Constantinople. Why? Because, although the ruling Arsakoi tribes of the Parthian Empire had migrated by then, the Roman Empire was still at war with the successor Sassanian Persian Empire.

It was excruciatingly painful for the priests of the Roman ‘Mother Church’ to explain why the Magi of Persia had worshiped the infant Jesus and the Roman Empire had destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple. Parthia worshiped Jesus. Rome pillaged Jerusalem and destroyed the Jews. How could Romans justify a Christian heritage?

The Roman Mother Church therefore blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus although the crucifixion was conducted by the Roman soldiers, under Roman imperial authority and with Roman nails.

As for the Magi, they became non-persons. They were reduced to just three foreigners. But in reality the Magi helped govern Parthia. They performed a similar task to the Levitical priesthood for the Israelitish kings.

Were there three Magi or more? We can say with near certainty that there were not three but many thousands! The Parthians were highly mobile and had several capitals. They traveled in massive, opulent, oriental style. The general selected by King Orodes to fight the Roman invader Crassus arrived with two hundred litters for his concubines. A thousand camels carried his personal baggage. A body of ten thousand horsemen and slaves served his personal needs. The Magi, the resplendently rich Parthian kingmakers, would have come to Jerusalem in their thousands or not at all!

This is how Matthew’s gospel describes the scene:

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judah in the days of Herod the king,

BEHOLD! There came wise men (Magi) from the East to Jerusalem, saying:

‘Where is he that is born King of the Jews? … We are come to do homage to him.

When Herod heard this, he was troubled and all Jerusalem with him.

The word ‘troubled’ can better be translated ‘terrified’, ‘set in a tumult’ ‘consternated’.

Parthia had forged a peace treaty with Rome two decades earlier. This came after Roman legions had been grossly humiliated. In 55 BCE the avaricious Consul Crassus sought booty. Crassus, he of the saying ‘as rich as Crassus,’ was the powerful oligarch of Rome. Parthian king Orodes slaughtered his 40,000 strong legions. Presented with his severed head during a performance of the Euripides play ‘Bacchae’, Orodes filled its mouth with molten gold, mocking him to drink to his fill. In 40 BCE Parthia invaded Judea and deposed the Roman-selected high priest at the Temple and installed another, Antigonus. In 37 BCE Mark Antony invaded Parthia with a massive 16 legions of 100,000 men. They were decimated. He barely escaped with his life. In 34 Julius Caesar planned to attack Parthia. He was assassinated in Rome.

If in the next few days you hear people talking about ‘Three wise men’, you can tell them, ‘It’s time to wise up on the Parthian Magi!’

Today’s leaders need to remind themselves how this area of an amazing peace, became again the furnace of conflict.

The Magi were Zoroastrian mobeds (priests).

Cheers, Doc

 

[Gothic]

The Magi were Zoroastrian mobeds (priests).

Cheers, Doc

i don't precisely know what religion the magi practiced . some say they were simply jewish rabbits . anyhow this article was originally suggested by me , that jesus was a social phenomena of the time resulted from the struggle of parthians with romans .
the scythian thing is actually Very interesting if you're interested.