Why Partition happened - The Hindu discrimination - *WORSE THAN UNTOUCHABLE

[funtoosh]

hahahah ..

So those Muslims in Gujrat were looking for conflict, and they killed 250 Hindus.. to get their 2000 burned alive?

Hilarious.

of course they thought they could get away with killing hindu pilgrims.. 59 roasted alive by mad muslim mob.
they thought hindus will always be peaceful, but the greatest man narendar modi (SAW) ensured that there was peace in the country.

 

[anti-hero]

Youtube videos do not make a compelling argument.In '47 Indian leaders wanted a secular,modern and strong state while Islamic fanatics just wanted a muslim country with no direction for future.These separatists were encouraged by the British who didn't want a single,unified and strong India to challenge them in the future.

In spite of Pakistan trying to tie India down via wars,proxy wars,Kashmir and what not , India has thrived.It will soon be among the 3 strongest countries of the world.Pakistanis can only look from the sides with a mixture jealousy and regret and create threads justifying stupid behaviour of their fanatic ancestors.Too late Pakistanis, India doesn't care about you.Go cry in the corner.

 

[kurup]

Fake Photo

This photo is reproduced here in this book on page 136. This photo has been used repeatedly to tarnish the name of BJP, VHP and the Bajrang Dal throughout India. The victim, Qutubuddin Ansari, is seen pleading for mercy to the rioters. Later he is shown in Kolkata, living happily on the help given by the West Bengal government which is of the CPI (M) and Left parties. Many questions that arise, (and some of which were raised by the then RSS chief K S Sudarshan in his speech in Nagpur on 4thOctober 2003) are:

1-A MASSIVE CLUE IS GOT ON THIS PHOTO BEING FAKE (means taken after the incident by the photographer asking the victim to pose thus, or taken when Ansari was genuinely in such a position but definitely after the incident was over) looking at the bandage on the poor victim’s face. This suggests that after the incident was over, bandage was applied to his face, and then the photo was clicked. If this photo was clicked with the mob targeting him and he pleading a bloodthirsty mob for mercy, how did he have the time to apply bandage on his face?

2-Also, it seems scarcely believable that the victim is pleading to rioters to spare his life on the first floor of the building, no rioter is seen in the photo, the photographer Arko Dutta was present at that very moment in that building to snap this in his camera and the rioters did nothing to either the photographer or the victim and allowed him to snap such a clear photo of the victim.We have utmost sympathies for the victim, Mr Qutubuddin Ansari since he was no doubt a victim of the riots. But that cannot be a license to concoct a fake photo and circulate it the world over instigating innocent people to terrorism.

3-If Mr Qutubuddin Ansari was seen pleading for mercy to rioters on the first floor of a building, how is it that no rioter is seen in the photo?

4-How and why did the rioters leave him alive and not kill him?

5-How was the photographer allowed to take the photo by the rioters? Why did they not attack him?

6-How, at least, did the rioters not destroy his camera if they would have left both Ansari and the photographer alive?

And a couple more:

7-Can the photographer, Mr. Arko Datta of the Reuters, explain any of the above questions?

8- Can Mr Ansari answer any of the above questions and other questions which may be raised on this issue now that he lives happily in Kolkata? (He has since returned to Gujarat). Here it must be said that the poor victim Qutubuddin Ansari is reported to have said “This photo was taken after the mob had left my house. The police were there and I was very scared and at this time the photo was clicked”. This is what has been said by a senior journalist of Gujarat. However, we could not get such a newspaper report available today on the web. But to be fair, we also could not get any report in which Ansari claims to be pleading before a mob to spare his life. So it is possible that Qutubuddin Ansari himself denies that he was pleading to a blood-mercy mob. Someone must now pin-pointedly ask him about this. If Mr Ansari claims that he indeed was pleading before a bloodthirsty mob, then it must be asked to him as to how he had bandage applied on his face. The poor guy is also fed up of the constant use of his photo and harrassments and has urged the media to leave him alone many times, starting from as early as August 2003.

We repeat here that we have utmost sympathies for the victim, Mr Qutubuddin Ansari since he was no doubt a victim of the riots. But that cannot be a license to concoct a fake photo and circulate it the world over instigating innocent people to terrorism

 

[funtoosh]

^^ that man is hindu pleading for getting movie ticket of houseful theater.

 

[neutral_person]

meh...I specifically mentioned for "the Pakistanis to remember the sacrifices of their ancestors." in the original post, I couldn't care less about the Indians who have derailed this thread.

Indian insecurity on a Pakistani forum is something I will be more wary of in the future.

Isnt it a sign of insecurity on your part if you open a thread talking about partition. Everyone else is obviously going to respond to the thread like they do to any other, especially a thread that talks lies about India.

Lets just say that Partition was correct for both nations and move on. Its in the past now, no need to troll each other for another 10 pages. We have had 1000s of similar threads before, where Pakistanis talk about how Muslims are a different religion/race/entity from Hindus, and thats the path we are going down in again.

 

[Bhairava]

Oh no...not again..

NO one in India cares why Pakistan happened..we are probably much more happier than Paks and BDs that partition happened.

Just get over your insecurity (if that is ever possible) and move on.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

*
The term Yindoo is used frequently here. What is that? Is that an attempt to market Hindoos in the same vein as Yehudis? Just curious what is the etymology of this 'Yindoo'?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

thank GOD for Muslim League and the founding fathers of our great Nation....

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Good to know that you guys got your Pakistan. Now you have your ghettos in Karachi pointing guns on each others' ghetto and killing 1500+/year.

and despite the issues that the country faces, the same city produces some of the worlds greatest doctors, surgeons, investment bankers, singers, actors, and fashion designers....

moreover, at least we are Pakistanis (and not oppresed indians -- like the dalits)

 

[foxbat]

thank GOD for Muslim League and the founding fathers of our great Nation....

I along with most Indians share the sentiment

Not sure if most of the rest of the world does

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I along with most Indians share the sentiment

Not sure if most of the rest of the world does

does it affect us? The amount of damn given is non-existent.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

lol @ Indian trolls

Still upset that partition happened.

It's been more then 60 years, deal with it guys and stop trolling on Pakistan.

On the whole, Pakistan has done much better then India in the last 60 years.

We have lower poverty, larger middle class and a market economy.
We also have options in Education, Employment and housing.

No discrimination against us because we are Muslims.

None of the above except lower poverty rates

Even then your Human development index is LOW and India's is MEDIUM .

 

[INDIC]

and despite the issues that the country faces, the same city produces some of the worlds greatest doctors, surgeons, investment bankers, singers, actors, and fashion designers....

moreover, at least we are Pakistanis (and not oppresed indians -- like the dalits)

Indian Muslims have more literacy rate than their Pakistani counterparts.

As far I know half of North-West frontier province boycotted the referendum back in 1947 as they wanted to join Afghan Pashtuns.

and despite the issues that the country faces, the same city produces some of the worlds greatest doctors, surgeons, investment bankers, singers, actors, and fashion designers....

moreover, at least we are Pakistanis (and not oppresed indians -- like the dalits)

Indian Muslims have more literacy rate than their Pakistani counterparts.

As far I know half of North-West frontier province boycotted the referendum back in 1947 as they wanted to join Afghan Pashtuns.

 

[RuheTag]

There's thing on the internet called Wikipedia, which serves as journal with such incidents and you can show some empathy towards Human being who are not Muslims too or is it haram?

2002 Gujarat violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read it, it's small article.
Then you can repeat Burning alive 2000 Muslims a thousand times over and feel better about yourself.

It might be helpful for your psyche to have Hindus with some Muslim blood on their Hands to help feel good about your country but, It's just lame to repeat the lie you use for Propaganda when we try to have an honest conversation. Well, it gets particularly nauseating with History of Barbaric acts in the name of Islam in the the sub continent in picture which You can't isolate yourself from. Your figure 2000, which itself is a fabrication, becomes insignificant or rounding off error when talking about those events. We don't even have to go beyond 100 years really.

I will have to be a retard to believe Indian Goverment's account on Gujrat, whose state-terrorist/minister supervized masscre of over 2000 Muslims. Read again the wikipedia with your daft head if you can understand.

Unofficial estimates put the death toll closer to 2000, with Muslims forming a very much higher proportion of those killed.[38]

 

[illusion8]

I will have to be a retard to believe Indian Goverment's account on Gujrat, whose state-terrorist/minister supervized masscre of over 2000 Muslims. Read again the wikipedia with your daft head if you can understand.

That is bound to happen with higher Hindu population, but the Gujarati Muslims were not innocent victims as some would want to paint - they started it in the first place.