so much hype and effort is put on the SEAL team and the stealthy black hawks that, people are prepared to eat the garbage fed to them. garbage being , that a lone "stealthy" blackhawk was able to accommodate twice the capacity of its original load plus the dead body and the "treasure trove" and some. the chinook got the passing reference much later ... which debunks the American claim of awesomeness, stealthiness and ignorance of Pak military. they stood back, condoned off the area and facilitated the departure of the SEALS.
I'll give you an honest view on stuff I am debating others with. Unlike our Indian friends, I am not here to show off how awesome America is. We don't talk and show off like others do on here and else where. We DO IT. And let the world see the awesomeness. Actions speak much louder than the words.
On the above, you don't know ANYTHING about the seating capacity or the loading capacity of these heli's. These were built a few in numbers and with much more powerful engines, avionics, altered size etc. The level of sophistication is such that it alone, like the Raptor (but limited though) can Jam Radars by itself beyond being Stealthy. It won't be uncommon or it to go undetected and take a dozen people with it.
The Chinook in question, wouldn't have the seating capacity needed as it was modified for carrying fuel for heli's and it was carrying fuel for both, plus extra equipment and supplies, etc, in case a fight broke out and supplies were needed.
The Pak Army wasn't on the scene. The SEAL's did the ops and a few others with translators did the blocking off the corridor. This was a VERY quick operation and lasted for just a short while.
Check these out. Remember the Airwolf? That was a prototype for Stealth hi-speed and heavy weapon systems with advanced avionics (C4I), and then the newer version of the Stealth heli. No one can tell me on here they know the seating capacity or capability in these pics!! So that Black-hawk was a cross between these two. So no one knew how that ghost was from the inside, outside of the people who used it!!
This puppy now has everything the above does, plus a LOT of advance tech, seating capacity and much more fuel and load carrying capability:
for Shakil Afridi, my theory is that he was sold out (discarded by) CIA after use to ISI and the get away driver who was supposed to meet him up and take him to a transit point was changed (magically) into an ISI squad.
This guy is being punished because he helped id OBL's family and then got their DNA's and other details. I believe capturing someone like OBL, was a favor to humanity. This guy should be freed and in fact, he helped Pakistan in many ways in getting this person. If OBL was alive today, like the other attacks from Taliban, he would be directing stuff towards Pakistan too, as he didn't have the capability anymore to even do something in Dubai!! Let alone the West.
On Baluchistan, I don't have any input. Sorry. Those attacks were ordered per the President's policy of taking out all high level terrorists wherever they were found. POTUS was pretty clear about it when he announced it years ago.
Why would Pakistan want to look bad in the OBL episode?
Capture of OBL should be a matter of pride for the nation. Yet, it became the beacon of embarrassment for the nation. Something is amiss.
That is EXACTLY my point. This situation, if played well, would've helped soften Pakistan's image. 1: Thank you USA for cleaning up this mess. 2: This is how pissed off we are at these terrorists, that our people are even willing to help the US like this Doctor did (and even with the negative sentiment). This is why I keep saying, the military is too black and white, they can't use any diplomatic situation to their advantage and thus the wrong calls made in the foreign policy over the decades!! Diplomacy is ALL about how to use events and situations to your country's benefit without getting into a bad situation like Pakistan is with the US now. That thing, only civilian minds who think like that and are used to politics can do.
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