Why Pakistan Army is Quiet on Drone Attack

[Irfan Baloch]

You can report away to your hearts content, prepare commissions of inquiry etc etc etc etc etc . The truth will always find you out. There is no country in this world that does not know that the Afghan taliban gets protection from the Pakistani army and its intelligence agency. NOT ONE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. If Pakistanis want to believe that they can keep this charade up forever then they are deluded.

you are a good poster . A true believer like Modi
let me share the new Belief of Modi, he has rewritten the History

do you know what Modi said to Iranians and Afghans which made them giggle?

he said India has historical lovely relation for centuries with Iran and Afghanistan

No shiit Sherlock

Said Nadir Shah Durani and Ahmad Shah Abdali (from their graves)

 

[kaonalpha]

CALM DOWN.....Let people show their anger. Our anger and frustration is natural as foreign power strikes so deep in our territory, in a province which is already sensitive due to many reasons and such a pathetic response by our men in uniform and civilian leadership. We should have shot down that drone. They are showing absolute arrogance towards us. This kind of warfare is illegal, if Pakistan takes stand on this issue, we can get support from them. We should do now, it is time to break your criminal silence and warn US, that any drone strike again, will have repercussions on relations.

Army also gave our piece of land to Afghans...what were they thinking? have they gone mad? When we look around us, Afghanistan, Iran and India, i see very strong nationalist people who don't even give hoot to anybody and do whatever they want but we? we are so pussy, sorry to say, that no body is ready to take us seriously, and we are being humiliated left and right.

Absolute nonsense going on right now. We are feeling insecure and enemies are laughing at us. Should we sit remain silent on this? Do we have even ounce of respect and honor? It is tough situation, agreed but it is too much now.

Even for men in uniform it is difficult to accept the silenceof our superiors. But the fault lies not only with us but also with the people. What can we do if our nation does not have the balls to stand up. Take a look at DAWN, Express Tribune, Jang etc all are pessimistic regardingthis incident and instead of blaming the government which is the people's representative it has been ranting about how military displayed a pathetic show. We as servants of the people and this country can say or do nothing with out government consent. But it seems our higher ups are keeping quite. I have faith in them and due time it will turn out to be the best. We have to take with a pinch of salt.

 

[S.Y.A]

US ‘unclear’ whether drone targeted Mansour in Pakistan


that's why
and if its not enough

its Civilian Government's job to respond to such incidents. but sadly Panama leaks and Imran Khan is keeping the Nawaz league too busy to spare some time on the international relations and the affairs of the state

All it takes is a single statement. They are so busy that nearly everyday a video leaks showing N-League ministers enjoying mujras. But eff foreign policy, a few hours of pleasure are more important

 

[Azadkashmir]

I agree here with the OP views. Seriously, denying US drone attacks and maintaining our sovereignty doesn't mean waging a war against the US. We should play our cards clear and our Govt as well as Military should come with a strict stance against these drone attacks (which are also technically illegal). We can't even down an unmanned plane to prevent any breach of our airspace? Then why on earth we could give the same response against Indians UCAV's (in future if they try to do the same) Will an innocent life been taken by an illegal American drone differs from that done by Indian drone?
Our military higher ups must have to take a firm stance on this, otherwise they will lose their credibility and positive image which they have regained in Raheel Sharif tenure. And if nothing changes in the policy then i am afraid that day is also not far away when US drone attacks will be carried all over Pakistan.
Was expecting a positive response from ISPR but really disappointed of their staying quiet over the matter.

it best if pak army just shoots it down and stays quiet and carries on no need to make noise. if they try again then we go again shoot it down. i am with zaid hamid he got balls he knows his stuff. best of all he knows the names of all traitors working against pakistan he is the best caretaker we got.

 

[barbarosa]

I agree here with the OP views. Seriously, denying US drone attacks and maintaining our sovereignty doesn't mean waging a war against the US. We should play our cards clear and our Govt as well as Military should come with a strict stance against these drone attacks (which are also technically illegal). We can't even down an unmanned plane to prevent any breach of our airspace? Then why on earth we could give the same response against Indians UCAV's (in future if they try to do the same) Will an innocent life been taken by an illegal American drone differs from that done by Indian drone?
Our military higher ups must have to take a firm stance on this, otherwise they will lose their credibility and positive image which they have regained in Raheel Sharif tenure. And if nothing changes in the policy then i am afraid that day is also not far away when US drone attacks will be carried all over Pakistan.
Was expecting a positive response from ISPR but really disappointed of their staying quiet over the matter.

This drone was in the western border,in the eastern border if the bird would be flow will be targeted.

 

[Zibago]

Again no one is coming up with a better Solution .. tell me which part I wrote is wrong ??
are we not taking US aid ?
drone strike is not happening in Pakistan ?
US troops killed our people
US have base in Pakistan ..
what benefit our Nukes give us ?

Pakistan will disintegrate within next 20 years .. just wait and watch
and than none of these Generals or Politicians will be here .. Pakistan will become next Syria and Iraq .. the work is already began .. its better to surrender before US make a mockery out of Pakistan .

O bhai pichley 10 saal they ap nay ghaur he nahe kiya
Ab pata nahe kiyon khokhlay patriots siyapa dal rahey hain

Pakistan cannot become Syria because of our army we cannot reply to US in the same manner we can to India or Taliban terror incidents are at 2006 level everything is going in the right direction spreading pessimism wont change anything its unfortunate US doesnot keep its end of the deal but it doesnot mean end of the world for us

And please dont compare India with US when India fires one bullets two fly to the other side of wagha

I agree here with the OP views. Seriously, denying US drone attacks and maintaining our sovereignty doesn't mean waging a war against the US. We should play our cards clear and our Govt as well as Military should come with a strict stance against these drone attacks (which are also technically illegal). We can't even down an unmanned plane to prevent any breach of our airspace? Then why on earth we could give the same response against Indians UCAV's (in future if they try to do the same) Will an innocent life been taken by an illegal American drone differs from that done by Indian drone?
Our military higher ups must have to take a firm stance on this, otherwise they will lose their credibility and positive image which they have regained in Raheel Sharif tenure. And if nothing changes in the policy then i am afraid that day is also not far away when US drone attacks will be carried all over Pakistan.
Was expecting a positive response from ISPR but really disappointed of their staying quiet over the matter.

We can easily down a subsonic uav but can we contain its fallout ask youraelf this questions

 

[Humble Analyst]

I am as much patriot person as any other Pakistani and you can see my love for Army in previous posts. But latest Drone strike by America and PA response is plain BS. This Policy of "Staying Quiet" when Pakistan Army's Arse* is on the line is getting ridiculous. America Killed a Terrorist on our soil. Why PAKISTAN ARMY Can't/didn't do it? Why every time Army seals its lips acting like nothing is in Army's Control and the institution is waiting like a good child for GOP Decision and FO statement while we all know that Foreign Policy of Pakistan is under Army's Control.

Point 1:Some people say that we got rid of a terrorist, let's celebrate it..Man why can't we do it? If we need America then why we even have a Army then? Is our Army is so incapable or coward? .

Point 2: There are some news circulating that the man who was killed wasn't really Mansoor. Now if Tomorrow America somehow thinks that "I am" a terrorist"(which obviously I am not) and kills me in a drone strike, whose duty then is to protect me? Why I am giving Tax? For Whom is Pakistan Army working for? Pakistan or America?

Point 3: There could be a possibility that informing PAKISTAN before strike was just a Political Statement from America. In this case, do Pakistan Army have balls to defend country against America?

This is just getting complex day by day. Why Army is keeping everyone in dark and behaving like she OWNS Pakistan. Just a few days ago Army gives a post to Afghanistan , Why? By Whose Permission?
I don't know what are the Generals smoking in GHQ. Army should be Accountable as much as people wants NS, IK, ZARDARI to be accountable.

@Horus @Windjammer @Arsalan @Rashid Mahmood @Oscar @HRK @Kaptaan

Has the 4th option occured to you that Mansoor was not listening to Pakistan?

 

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

hanif wrote it in better ways

ملا منصور کی وصیت

محمد حنیف مصنف اور تجزیہ نگار

3 گھنٹے پہلے

شیئر
1- جب پاکستان کی اسٹیبلشمنٹ آپ سے کہے کہ آپ ہمارے معزز مہمان ہیں اُس دِن سے اپنی وصیت لکھنی شروع کر دینا۔

2- جب اِنھی میں سے کوئی کہے کہ آپ ہمارے مسلمان بھائی ہیں تو یہ مت کہنا کہ اِس بھائی چارے کے اب تک کتنے ڈالر ہوئے۔ پاکستانی حساس قوم ہیں۔

3- کوئٹہ سے کبھی گاڑی کرائے پر مت لینا۔ خلیفہ مُلاّ عمر کی روایت پر عمل کرتے ہوئے موٹر سائیکل پر سفر کرنا۔ طبعی عمر پاؤ گے۔ بلکہ شہادت کے کئی سال بعد بھی لوگ زندہ ہی سمجھیں گے۔

4 - پاکستان کے دفاعی تجزیہ نگاروں سے بچ کر رہنا۔ اگر ڈرون سے بچ گئے تو یہ دانشور چوم چوم کر مار دیں گے۔ جب تک آپ زندہ ہیں آپ کو تاریخ کا سب سے بڑا جنگجو کہیں گے شہادت کے بعد کہیں گے امن کی آخری اُمید دم توڑ گئی۔ اچھے خاصے مجاہد کو گاندھی بنا دیں گے یہ دفاعی تجزیہ نگار ۔

5- ہر ریاست کی پالیسی دوغلی ہوتی ہے لیکن یہ ہمارے میزبان بھائی ایک ہاتھ سے فاتحہ پڑھتے ہیں، دوسرا ہاتھ خنجر پر رکھتے ہیں۔

6- میرا خیال تھا ہمارے پاکستانی دوست لطیفے بہت اچھے سُناتے ہیں۔ ایک پنجابی مجاہد نے ایک دفعہ بتایا کہ ہمارے چوکیدار رات کو صدا لگاتے ہیں’جاگدے رہنا، ساڈے تے نہ رہنا‘۔ اب پتہ چلا کہ کم بختوں نے ایک جگت کو قومی دفاعی پالیسی بنا لیا ہے۔

7- اپنے پاکستانی بھائیوں سے کبھی یہ نہ کہنا کہ ہم افغان تو اپنی آزادی کی جنگ لڑ رہے ہیں تم کیا لُچ تل رہے ہو۔ بتایا تھا نہ حساس قوم ہیں ادارے بھی حساس ہیں خفا ہو جاتے ہیں ۔


8- حساسیت کا یہ عالم ہے کہ جیسے ہی آپ کی شہادت ہو گی تو پہلے سکتے میں آ جائیں گے پھر کہیں گے ہماری خود مختاری کے ساتھ چھیڑ چھاڑ ہوئی ہے۔ ہمارے گھر میں گھُس کر مارا، پھر کہیں گے ہمارے گھر میں تو تھا ہی نہیں اُُس کے بعد پھر کہیں گے لیکن تمہاری جرات کیسے ہوئی ہمارے گھر میں گھسنے کی۔ تو آپ نے دیکھا آپ کی جان جائے گی اور اِن کی خود مختاری پِھر دنیا میں اٹکھیلیاں کرتی پھرے گی اور کہے گی پتہ نہیں مجھے دُنیا والے اِتنا کیوں چھیڑتے ہیں۔

9- یہ جو پاکستان کے علما و مشائخ اور غائبانہ نماز جنازہ پڑھانے والی پارٹیاں ہیں اِن سے بھی ہوشیار رہنا ضروری ہے۔ ساری عمر آپ کے کانوں میں ’شہادت ہے مطلوب و مقصود و مومن‘ گنگناتے رہیں گے جب وقت شہادت آئے گا تو اِن کی گنگا جمنی تہذیب جاگ اُٹھے گی اور کہیں گے’نہیں حضور پہلے آپ‘۔

10- اگلا امیر منتخب کرتے وقت اِن کے مشورے مت سُننا، کچھ سال پہلے ہمارے پاکستان بھائی خالد سجنا کو امیر منتخب کروانے والے تھے کہ کسی نے گانا لگا دیا ’سجنا وی مر جانا‘۔ وہُ امیر نہ بن سکے۔ دنیا کی بہت سی قومیں لہو و لعب میں مبتلا ہیں لیکن یہ کیسی قوم ہے جس نے گانوں اور لطیفوں کو ایک مکمل ضابطۂ حیات بنا رکھا ہے۔

11- سرحدی علاقوں، پہاڑوں اور غاروں میں پناہ لینے کے دِن گئے۔ کراچی کے گنجان آباد علاقے بھی بہت گنجان ہو گئے اب پکی پناہ کے لیے ڈی ایچ اے سٹی میں ایک پلاٹ بُک کراؤ وہاں تمہیں امریکہ کا باپ بھی نہیں ڈھونڈ سکے گا۔

Sir what is this shit and why you posted it...this is a hieght of sarcasm against our Army.

 

[barbarosa]

it best if pak army just shoots it down and stays quiet and carries on no need to make noise. if they try again then we go again shoot it down. i am with zaid hamid he got balls he knows his stuff. best of all he knows the names of all traitors working against pakistan he is the best caretaker we got.

Why we fight the war of Mulla Mansour? if he is a terrorist.The violation of Pak border is another issue which can do USA only because she give us dollars in beg and we love her daughter F16.

 

[Zibago]

iski bhi kya zarorat bhai ji . we all know it . there are hundreds of attacks on pakistan by amercans and what army did then crying ?

جنگ تو ھم کر نھیں سکتے امریکا کے ساتھ یہ انڈیا نھیں جس کے فوجیوں کے گلے کاٹو اور بس تھوری بھت.پنگ پانگ کھیلو

 

[Spring Onion]

Did pak govt even issue a routine protest this time? BTW I dont buy the 'we are third world country' argument, there are tonnes of third world countries which are politically opposed to US, they dont get bombed or invaded willy nilly.
By the same argument, how far will you allow them, what if they bomb punjab next time? Where will you draw the line and say thus far and no more?

Yeh they did protest. And US State Department official said they are not clear where he was targeted. funny.

I say US should extend the line instead of we should draw the line when we do not have will and power.

 

[Azadkashmir]

keep it simple shoot the drones down and just stay quiet about it usa will bitch but she go silent and then shoot another.

 

[Spy Master]

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DG ISPR is allowed to TWEET On every single matter of Pakistan including Political Matters but they cannot do this WHILE our sovereignty is Breached? What type of logic is this by this Country's stupid Army?

@Irfan Baloch

 

[Spring Onion]

@Spring Onion

He is officially NOT bound to comment on everything. It is government of Pakistan that has to

 

[Imran Khan]

US ‘unclear’ whether drone targeted Mansour in Pakistan


that's why
and if its not enough

its Civilian Government's job to respond to such incidents. but sadly Panama leaks and Imran Khan is keeping the Nawaz league too busy to spare some time on the international relations and the affairs of the state

after every blunder army missed civilian gov so much . as bhutto was hanged with civilian gov permission . pakistan joined WOT with civilian approval and fall of Dhaka was also under civilians . whole year army is on driving seat and gen.raheel ki jaay ho but when its time for action now civilian gov should react . ok next time nawaz will fly a CAP mission and shot down any drone flying over pakistan .

He is officially NOT bound to comment on everything. It is government of Pakistan that has to

yeah yeah he is here to play the songs

ab officially yaad a gya