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why pak cannot launch their own sattelite

We have not one but many “Dichotomies” existing in our society simultaneously. By dichotomy I refer to a division into two mutually exclusive contradictory groups/ entities or practices.

First & foremost being the identity. We are Muslims first, Sindhis/ Baluchi’s/ Pashtuns/Mohajirs/ Punjabis second and Pakistanis last. Hell, we don’t want to know how many we really are, because Sindhis & Baluchis are afraid that they would turn out be minorities in their province & lose their grip on power. A good chunk of the population is bent on enforcing their version of Sharia on rest of the population by force. They consider voting un-Islamic & despite the fact we saw that their rule in Afghanistan virtually destroying everything and 'Darse Nizami' was considered the proper education syllabus; even Oxford educated Imran Khan has soft spot for them.
Second is the complete lack of respect for merit & education. We want to take shortcuts in everything
very good post.
 
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Why Pakistan does not launch its own satellite?

Because they prefer to send satellite in space via CPEC. CPEC to China and China to space. There!

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We have not one but many “Dichotomies” existing in our society simultaneously. By dichotomy I refer to a division into two mutually exclusive contradictory groups/ entities or practices.

First & foremost being the identity. We are Muslims first, Sindhis/ Baluchi’s/ Pashtuns/Mohajirs/ Punjabis second and Pakistanis last. Hell, we don’t want to know how many we really are, because Sindhis & Baluchis are afraid that they would turn out be minorities in their province & lose their grip on power. A good chunk of the population is bent on enforcing their version of Sharia on rest of the population by force. They consider voting un-Islamic & despite the fact we saw that their rule in Afghanistan virtually destroying everything and 'Darse Nizami' was considered the proper education syllabus; even Oxford educated Imran Khan has soft spot for them.

Second is the complete lack of respect for merit & education. We want to take shortcuts in everything. Jamshed Dasti was disqualified for fake degree but the naïve public re-elected him! A fake medical or engineering degree would not enable you to perform an operation or build a bridge. Who knows how many dubious degree holders are occupying senior technical posts in the gov’t owned establishments? Because of this a very large percentage of Pakistani scientists migrate abroad hence the famous ‘Brain drain’.

Finally, gov’t revenue is abysmally inadequate for the country’s’ needs. Regrettably, in addition to the human resources, R &D also needs injection of funds. Ruling classes are not the only ones, all of us are guilty of tax evasion. No wants to pay taxes in Pakistan. More than half the population still lives in the villages but there is no tax on the agricultural income. How would GOP finance Research & Development when the revenue is not enough to pay even for the health & education?

We can all dream of manufacturing world beating fighters, helicopters, frigates, submarines & even having indigenous space program. But all these would tantamount to nothing more than wishful thinking until such time that there is a paradigm shift in the society mind-set.

Everyone must understand that no worthwhile progress in any field can be achieved until sectarian killing, suicide bombings & all extremism is eliminated. How can you expect peace in a society where anti-polio workers risk death by the Islamic extremists! We have to create a peaceful & tolerant society before anything.

Next step is prioritizing education & merit. That means end of nepotism & political appointments in other words end of corruption. Therefore no more medical doctors such as Dr Asim as Ministers for Petroleum.

I see many posts denigrating Indian scientific achievements and implying that Indian goods are rubbish. We underestimate our adversary at our peril. We should instead be praising Indian defence produce (even when it is in fact rubbish) so that the nation is shaken out from the false sense of security.

Sad reality however, is that Pakistan is way behind India in Science & Technology. Dr Abul Kalam, late Indian President was a first rate rocket scientist resulting in Indian advancement in Rocket Science. (In case anyone points out, the great Satyendra Nath Bose, FRS, after whom the 'Boson' is named; was not Indian but IMO a Bangla Deshi)

When one examines list of Nobel Laureates in the scientific fields, there are 4 Indian/ Indian origin scientists. Sir CV Raman won Nobel Prize in Physics in 1911. Harbind Khorana for Medicine in 1968, Subramanyam Chander Shakher in 1983 in Physics & Venkat Raman Ramakrishnan for Chemistry in 2009.

Whereas there is only one Pakistani, Professor Abdus Salam. Actually the whole Muslim world only produced two others; Ahmed Zewali (Egyptian origin) Chemistry -1999 & Aziz Sancar (Turkey) Chemistry in 2015. Forget about harping on the past Muslim achievements; the fact that just one University (Cambridge) produced 29 Nobel Prize wiiners in Physics, 26 in Medicine and 22 in Chemistry; illustrates how far behind Pakistan & Muslims are in the present day science & technology.

Future wars would be won by technology & technology alone. To quote an actual example, there were suggestions in the US during the cold war era that the US should consider setting up a military base on the moon so that Russia ICBMS could be destroyed before the same are launched. Later it was modified into the ‘Star War’ program whereby space based laser weapons would intercept Russian ICBMs before these reach the United States mainland. Pray tell me how would Pakistani cruise missiles / nuclear weapons hurt an enemy when the same are destroyed before launch?

For a country be truly independent, we need to have technology of similar level. Since no one else is going to give it to us, we would to have to acquire the same on our own. The elite may be ‘Beghairat’; but all members of the society who hide their income and do not pay their due taxes and vote for fake degree holder & corrupt MNAs must share the blame. Because until such time that GOP revenue reaches the level that sufficient funds for R &D are available; we would remain dependent upon others.
Respect bro, it takes courage to tell the truth even though it does not conform to popular narrative.
 
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Only indians tells us why or what good for pakistan..! to much care and good wishes from india ?? Koi kam dahanda nhi hai jo PAKISTAN k barry main souchty rehty ho0 ...!!!!!!!!!! :/
 
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As of now many Pakistanis do not have access to safe drinking water; sanitation and health is still non-existent in many rural areas of KPK, Baluchistan, southern Punjab and Sind. There are children dying of hunger in Tharparker. Tribal Jirgas order sisters of the accused to be raped to satisfy honour and PTI supporters expect Maria Toor to play Squash wearing ‘Burqa’ because wearing skirt dishonours a Pashtun lady. Our largest city – Karachi is a rubbish dump.

Reality of Pakistan is that according to a post in this forum average Pakistani has lost 4 inches in height because of malnutrition since independence. People are being shot because they were born to the different sect.

In my humble opinion most important strength of any country is the human resource. For this we need to improve sanitation, health, nutrition and education. Our education standard is so poor that there is no Pakistani university among the top 500 and only 7 among the top 980 universities of the world.

Pakistan stands at lowly number 147 in the Human Development in the world. When even the highly developed European Nations are having their satellites launched by the Chinese; must we waste our already scarce resources on attaining the satellite launching capability?
 
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Lack of education, skills in specific field.
Some other factors are lack of vision on part of corrupt ledership - satellite business is hi-tech and the return will not benefit their personal accounts but account of state of Pakistan.
Contracts of roads/metros/orange trains (keep in mind these all projects need 'sarya' a product of leadership industry) are more beneficial for corrupt practices and reverberate the interests to families and parties for faithfulness. Even health services sector does not at par with civil works in reference to returns.
 
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From wikipedia

'Chinese' is the keyword. @Shajida Khan was right! You have to cart your satellite to China via CPEC and then to space :rofl:. Want some burnol?

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:rofl: :rofl: Bechare Pakistani.
she was only asking launching a sat not asking that its was launch by Pakistani SLV or foreign and as for your information Indian first sat launch by Russia:enjoy: you brain fart you are reported for trolling
 
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she was only asking launching a sat not asking that its was launch by Pakistani SLV or foreign and as for your information Indian first sat launch by Russia:enjoy: you brain fart you are reported for trolling
Oh yeah! Learning so much Chinese that you cannot even comprehend English these days! Thats rad. :rofl:. Which part of 'send satellite in space via CPEC' you don't understand :rofl:
 
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Right now there is so much more to be done in some vital sectors other than satellites.

We need to invest heavily in building dams to store some of the water before its dumped into ocean or lost to evaporation. Then we need to build a canal network to distribute this water to regions lacking of it around the year for drinking and irrigation purposes. We also need to invest in sanitation systems around the country and repair our existing sanitation systems. And importantly, we need to build lot of hospitals, schools and High tech Universities. Furthermore, because we have lot of poor people who we need to provide free education and healthcare especially in the civil sector.

We should take inspiration from our armed forces who are responsible enough to provide free education and healthcare to the families of personnel employed with them. If they can do it then civilian sector should follow suit and implement it as well.

Once we have made some strides in these areas we would be able to invest in space programs. Until then it makes sense to keep the program going on a snail pace which is what the government seem to be doing.
 
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The answer is very simple and is same for India and Pakistan. I.e. choice between Guns or Butter.

Pakistan being run by boots, more resource is allocated to Guns. Pakistan needs to be first run by civilians to make right choices.

U have to send your army to its right place....and trust your civilians and politicians to make right choices for u. Empower your judiciary, disenfranchise your Generals ....

Anything else is believing the propaganda of army that they are not corrupt and everyone else is
 
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