Why no declassification of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose files?

[JanjaWeed]

If you cant understand the point i an trying to make mate its pointless for me to even bother to explain .

Fair enough

 

[Chronos]

Netaji was not a natural Military commander. Although his academic career was flawless, his military mission was bound to fail because he was fighting a war he could never win. But the point is, the way we,Indians have treated this great leader after his mysterious disappearance, through the methodical way Government of India had tried to hinder every enquiry commission about him are simply inexcusable. If we are a true democratic,liberal nation the truth must be revealed no matter who gets saved or who not.

I thought he was a fascist?

 

[scorpionx]

I thought he was a fascist?

Which way? Shaking hands with the Fuhrer does not always make you a Fascist. Isn't?

 

[Chronos]

Which way? Shaking hands with the Fuhrer does not always make you a Fascist. Isn't?

Not sure. But Indians tend to have black and white views about their leaders.

I don't think Jawaharlal Nehru was the worst man ever.

*runs away*

 

[FaujHistorian]

Which way? Shaking hands with the Fuhrer does not always make you a Fascist. Isn't?

Trading Brits for Hitler was a mighty bad deal.

Mighty mighty bad deal.


Out of the frying pan into the fire.


hahahah

Seriously

Palestinian did exactly the same

and look how "prosperous" they are right now in their state of Palestine .

International games must be played carefully

You must not gamble away your family heirloom

you must not

Bose Ji was doing bad bad bad stuff gambling away family heirloom

 

[scorpionx]

Not sure. But Indians tend to have black and white views about their leaders.

I don't think Jawaharlal Nehru was the worst man ever.

*runs away*

In the 40's every Indian political leader believed that the Axis will win the war. Right from Gandhi,Nehru to Netaji. So, it was natural for a Bengali to seek help from Hitler to liberate his motherland. Remember,in those days the truth about holocaust was not known to the outside world and Germany,atleast looked morally much correct than the British those days.

 

[Chronos]

In the 40's every Indian political leader believed that the Axis will win the war. Right from Gandhi,Nehru to Netaji. So, it was natural for a Bengali to seek help from Hitler to liberate his motherland. Remember,in those days the truth about holocaust was not known to the outside world and Germany,atleast looked morally much correct than the British those days.

Germans had a lot of sympathisers initially with the Allied powers as well, as even normal people sympathised with Germans over punitive measures imposed on them by the Treaty of Versailles.

you must not

Bose Ji was doing bad bad bad stuff gambling away family heirloom

As @scorpionx said, in the early 1940's, Axis victory seemed reassured.

It is easy for us with 20/20 hindsight.

 

[FaujHistorian]

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As @scorpionx said, in the early 1940's, Axis victory seemed reassured.

It is easy for us with 20/20 hindsight.

Actually no.

There was no assured victory for Nazis.

Anyone doing unemotional analysis could have seen that Germans were not prepared for WW2

Yes they were pretty big power

and could have defeated individual countries

But not the allies


Heck even Hitler's own generals knew BEFORE the war that short battles can be won

but winning the war was impossible


Same thing was said by the Japanese admiral about American power

 

[scorpionx]

Actually no.

There was no assured victory for Nazis.

Anyone doing unemotional analysis could have seen that Germans were not prepared for WW2

Yes they were pretty big power

and could have defeated individual countries

But not the allies

Fauj Sahib, Didn't Maulana Azad ji mentioned it in his autobiography? Off course I was not saying that there was assured victory of the Axis. I was saying it was a popular belief among the Indian political echelons.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Fauj Sahib, Didn't Maulana Azad ji mentioned it in his autobiography?

???

 

[scorpionx]

???

I was saying @Ravi Nair that the Indian Political leaders had firm belief that the Germans will win the war. This belief reflected in some of the Mr.Gandhiji's decision those days, which Maulana saab exclusively mentions in his book.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I was saying @Ravi Nair that the Indian Political leaders had firm belief that the Germans will win the war. This belief reflected in some of the Mr.Gandhiji's decision those days, which Maulana saab exclusively mentions in his book.

2-bit Mullahs back then made whole lot of miscalculations. This was nothing new even back then

Gandhi Ji's $tupid support for Khilafah empty lafafah movement was epic low as well.


However these pathetic Mullahs and Mullis never realized that 100s of 1000s of Indian jawans are VOLUNTEERS (as opposed to drafted) in the British Indian army.

When you have your young boys fighting bravely on the front (so many victoria crosses are proof) you don't fork them from behind

This is the most terrible thing any nation can do to their young men

Hope you understand it better now

Thank you

 

[Mike_Brando]

Rather than retoric do tell me how its revelant today? and not form a history poin of view.

so you tell me how that bald looking man aka Mohandas Gandhi is relevant in the present day politics of India but politicians still drag him in literally everything and even today our history books are full of his "so called" heroic struggles against the Brits.so if he is still relevant upto this day then i am quite sure that Netaji will also find relevance in the present day India,after all he has got a huge no. of followers among the younger generations and people still draw their inspirations from his selfless and relentless struggle to achieve our freedom against the mighty British empire......

As stated by you his importance is only historical , just like we revere Gandhi ji so also Subash ji, but has ,as a recent book claims that bapu was a homosexual any impact on our reverence to him or what he accomplished? No !!!
So also neither will us learning about Subash ji death make him any less of a hero or more so. His death has no significance in todays life, it may change what we read about him in our textbooks but nothing else.

By the way there are many such secrets that the govt deems fit not to share with us, will it change our lives if they do ? i doubt it!!!

the common Indian citizens have a right to know about the real story as we consider ourselves to be a liberal democracy.the GoI has a moral obligation to share the real story behind Netaji's disappearance with us.......

 

[Mike_Brando]

I thought he was a fascist?

if he was a fascist then he would have formed a fascist political organization in the lines of the existing European fascist parties but instead he formed a marxist Forward Bloc party after getting out of I.N.C.he was a socialist and his dream was to liberate India with the active support of the U.S.S.R. but he was left with no other option when U.S.S.R. joined the Allies in the 2nd WW.so he was forced to seek help from Germany to liberate India....

 

[scorpionx]

As stated by you his importance is only historical , just like we revere Gandhi ji so also Subash ji, but has ,as a recent book claims that bapu was a homosexual any impact on our reverence to him or what he accomplished? No !!!
So also neither will us learning about Subash ji death make him any less of a hero or more so. His death has no significance in todays life, it may change what we read about him in our textbooks but nothing else.

By the way there are many such secrets that the govt deems fit not to share with us, will it change our lives if they do ? i doubt it!!!

No Sir, it won't change anything in our daily routines. But there are two things which can justify the demands to unearth the truth about his mystic disappearance. The first one being the importance of historical studies about my own county. There are laborious excavations going on in Mogalmari,WB to find out the remains of Buddhist Monasteries during Gupta period. How does it help? Does it feed the poor? No.But It quenches the thirst of academicians of our period. Secondly, he is a national Hero, revered by people across this country, and Japan as well. The Japanese had deepest respect for two Indians, Rasbehari Bose and Subhash Chandra Bose due to their uncompromising patriotism. So, when millions of people wants to know what happened to their loved leader and why Government of India had played such dubious role in every enquiry commission, the sentiment must be respected which is not an abnormal demand in a democratic,civilized society. So,I disagree with you,sadly.