Why is there a statue of Ranjit Singh in Lahore?

[Hamza913]

I'm from Lahore and i just saw that there is a Ranjit Singh statue there.

Why?

Why is there a statue of a tyrant, who tortured muslims during his rule, in the ISLAMIC republic of Pakistan?

And to make it worse, the statue was made and placed there by the Punjab government just last year. It's not even like that it was an ancient statue. They literally made the statue and placed it there.

This is extremely offensive.

Imagine if someone makes a statue of Hitler and places it in front of the Eiffel Tower. It's the same kind of situation here.


Shameful.

What are the Lahoris doing about this?

They should file a petition to get it removed.

And i just saw a tweet where Fawad Chaudhry called Ranjit Singh "Sher-e-Punjab". And i thought he couldn't be any worse.


He was a ruler for the Sikhs not for the muslims.

No Punjabi muslim likes Ranjit Singh.

Also, it's quite funny how Indians are "condemning" this "attack" on the statue but they would do anything to remove the statues of Aurangzeb and the other Mughal rulers from India. Hypocrites.

He was secular. Whilst he did indeed harm many Muslims, there were others that he was much nicer to (not that he especially cared, the man was a pragmatist above all else). The main reason he has a statue in Lahore is because he's a Punjabi and this move is meant to make Sikhs from the other side feel more warmly towards us for tourist money.

I don't feel especially warm towards him, but he was a Bhatti Punjabi born on our side of the Radcliffe line. He's part of our history.

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

Makes a lot more sense to have a fucking Ranjit Singh statue in Lahore than an Ertugrul one.

Pakistan: Locals erect statue of Ertugrul Gazi

Inspired by popular Turkish TV drama, Lahore residents install sculpture of medieval Muslim hero - Anadolu Ajansı

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[Ahmet Pasha]

It was probably put there by someone who doesn't know jack about Punjabi history, our sacrifices and the burnt trains that were colored red with punjabi muslim blood. Or someone who believes in usual Punjab ruined everything/Punjabi army propaganda.

He was secular. Whilst he did indeed harm many Muslims, there were others that he was much nicer to (not that he especially cared, the man was a pragmatist above all else). The main reason he has a statue in Lahore is because he's a Punjabi and this move is meant to make Sikhs from the other side feel more warmly towards us for tourist money.

I don't feel especially warm towards him, but he was a Bhatti Punjabi born on our side of the Radcliffe line. He's part of our history.

Then put his statue near Kartarpur where Sikhs will actually see it or in Lahore Fort Gurduara.

 

[Hamza913]

Punjab for all its martial reputation, through out Mideveal age it was only during Ranjit Singh's 50 year odd rule it wasn't under any form of subjugation or doing bidding for foreign invaders, and had a proper rule over their own land and expanded territories beyond.

Not true. There were plenty of rebels such as Mal Khan during the Ghorid invasions (and he managed to control rather sizeable portions of the Punjab), the Punjabis that assassinated Muhammad Ghori himself, the Gakhars during the time of Sur rule or Abdullah Bhatti during the height of the Mughal Empire under Akbar. There was also the Khokhar Confederacy, which was even more impressive than the Sikh Empire since it laid siege to Delhi.

Most of the communities within the Punjab (Bhattis, Tomars, Chauhans, Mors, etc) are related to numerous dynasties from throughout the rest of the sub-continent too, and I wouldn't exactly discount operating as soldiers for others as meaning nothing in terms of military prowess. There are Muslims all the way in Uttar Pradesh who claim Punjabi ancestry due to all the Khokhars, Ranghars and Bhattis that swarmed the Ganges under Babur's sword.

 

[Alpha_PK]

Pardon his bhayyaness. He can't help it.
By the by,,, other thn 'tyrant Ranjit ' ,Pak bhayyas have nothing to show for thr so called martialness other thn thr eternal enthusiasm for bootpolishing invaders.
Similarly in history,,, Indus valley,,,,,, ironically both are unislamic
Pak bhayyes-lesser sons of greater "jahillyah" Sires.
Ps- another funny observation,,,,outrage about statue is more from bhagora bhayyas,,, UK, USA bhaage huye inn bhayyo ko dekho (they don't even conform with the values this coutries stand for/or hate thm)...
Lekin do dollar ke liye ghairat bech ke wahi kha rhe hai.
The likes of @AUz , who don't have the aukaat to make an honest living on thr own Islamic mother land,, talk big on internet while living in USA, despite hating the US ethos and knowing the truth.
The same country which has literally destroyed Pakistan since it's inception.
Yeh hoti hai bhayyo ki aukaat.
And thn ths same people wonder why they have bad 'hukmarans'. When they themselve sell thr ghairat for 2 dollars more,, wht can hukmaran do, when he gets 100 dollar.
Even babar, the conqueror, understood thr character.

Did you call me a "bhayya"?
What even is a "bhayya"?

I'm a Punjabi

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Pardon his bhayyaness. He can't help it.
By the by,,, other thn 'tyrant Ranjit ' ,Pak bhayyas have nothing to show for thr so called martialness other thn thr eternal enthusiasm for bootpolishing invaders.
Similarly in history,,, Indus valley,,,,,, ironically both are unislamic
Pak bhayyes-lesser sons of greater "jahillyah" Sires.
Ps- another funny observation,,,,outrage about statue is more from bhagora bhayyas,,, UK, USA bhaage huye inn bhayyo ko dekho (they don't even conform with the values this coutries stand for/or hate thm)...
Lekin do dollar ke liye ghairat bech ke wahi kha rhe hai.
The likes of @AUz , who don't have the aukaat to make an honest living on thr own Islamic mother land,, talk big on internet while living in USA, despite hating the US ethos and knowing the truth.
The same country which has literally destroyed Pakistan since it's inception.
Yeh hoti hai bhayyo ki aukaat.
And thn ths same people wonder why they have bad 'hukmarans'. When they themselve sell thr ghairat for 2 dollars more,, wht can hukmaran do, when he gets 100 dollar.
Even babar, the conqueror, understood thr character.

They are our bhayyas. You have no right to speak against them. It is an intra Pakistan conversation.

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

History is full of things we all love now and things which we will hate tommorow. Sikhs used to rule Punjab their is no 2 doubt about it. Lahore was major city in Punjab then and now. He ruled Punjab and like many ruler of that time he was discriminatory against Muslims. That doesn't change the fact that he was part of our history.
And when did Indians became the bench mark. Why don't the put mughal statue in their city. Who cares what they do. Let's not get mixed up with that shit. We are better than them.

 

[M. Sarmad]

The imagined paradigm of eternal conflict between Punjabi Muslims and Sikhs/Hindus is a myth (rooted in bitter experiences and bloody legacy of 1947 partition, and based on divisive colonial history peddled post 1849), so is the hypothesis of enduring tradition of peaceful co-existence.

Ranjit Singh was much better (as a ruler, and as a human being) than many others (Muslims & Non Muslims) who have ruled/invaded Punjab in several different historical eras.

Ranjit Singh was invited by Lahori Muslims (Arains) to rid the city of Bhangi/Kanhiya misl Sikh tyrants who had been ruling Lahore for 30 years. Muslims helped him conquer the city (and he generously rewarded them). Ranjit Singh built a few new mosques and restored some others (Sonehri mosque for example) in the city. He wasn't a 'mosque-destroyer' as alleged by some, but Sikhs generally hated Mughals (as the latter had killed Sikh gurus) and were not very fond of Mughal structures. Badshahi mosque was seen more as a symbol of Mughal legacy (than a Muslim worship place) by Sikh rulers. Ranjit Singh otherwise was generally tolerant of all religions (including Islam). He had many Muslims in his Army, his foreign minister and home minister were muslims (Faqeer family of Lahore). He set up separate courts for Muslims (and appointed Nizam ud din as chief Qazi) and so on ....

Ranjit Singh was a son of the soil and there is nothing wrong in Punjabis celebrating him as a native hero. But Pakistan is much larger than just Punjab. Pashtuns do not like Ranjit Singh and many of them may find it offensive that a statue of him has been erected in Lahore. But what they need to understand is that at this point in time, Sikhs do not have to be our enemy, Hindutva is our common foe

 

[Alpha_PK]

The imagined paradigm of eternal conflict between Punjabi Muslims and Sikhs/Hindus is a myth (rooted in bitter experiences and bloody legacy of 1947 partition, and based on divisive colonial history peddled post 1849), so is the hypothesis of enduring tradition of peaceful co-existence.

Ranjit Singh was much better (as a ruler, and as a human being) than many others (Muslims & Non Muslims) who have ruled Punjab in several different historical eras.

Ranjit Singh was invited by Lahori Muslims (Arains) to rid the city of Bhangi/Kanhiya misl Sikh tyrants who had been ruling Lahore for 30 years. Muslims helped him conquer the city (and he generously rewarded them). Ranjit Singh built a few new mosques and restored some others (Sonehri mosque for example) in the city. He wasn't a 'mosque-destroyer' as alleged by some, but Sikhs generally hated Mughals (as the latter had killed Sikh gurus) and were not very fond of Mughal structures. Badshahi mosque was seen more as a symbol of Mughal legacy (than a Muslim worship place) by Sikh rulers. Ranjit Singh otherwise was generally tolerant of all religions (including Islam). He had many Muslims in his Army, his foreign minister and home minister were muslims (Faqeer family of Lahore). He set up separate courts for Muslims (and appointed Nizam ud din as chief Qazi) and so on ....

Ranjit Singh was a son of the soil and there is nothing wrong in Punjabis celebrating him as a native hero. But Pakistan is much larger than just Punjab. Pashtuns do not like Ranjit Singh and many of them may find it offensive that a statue of him has been erected in Lahore. But what they need to understand is that at this point in time, Sikhs do not have to be our enemy, Hindutva is our common foe

You've got all that info from that Faqeer guy's ted talk right? lol
The fact that muslims hadn't been able to create an Islamic empire in Punjab like the Sikh Empire is a very sad thing.

But history will remember Pakistan as a muslim "empire" 200 to 300 years down the road. So that's good.

 

[M. Sarmad]

You've got all that info from that Faqeer guy's ted talk right? lol

I am stating simple historical facts (briefly). The information provided is easily verifiable

 

[Alpha_PK]

I am stating simple historical facts (briefly). The information provided is easily verifiable

Yeah but there is no such thing as punjabi nationalism in Pakistan.

So why would a Punjabi muslim care about Ranjit singh?
He was a sikh not a muslim even if he was a Punjabi

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yeah but there is no such thing as punjabi nationalism in Pakistan.

So why would a Punjabi muslim care about Ranjit singh?
He was a sikh not a muslim even if he was a Punjabi

Punjabi nationalism was never a thing in Pakistani Punjab, but now it is
Thanks to ethno-fascists from other provinces

 

[AUz]

Ranjit Singhs sikh empire not only fought with Afghans and British, but also fought Qing Dynasty of China. It was through their exploits that ladakh became part of India.

LMAO, no....area in and around Ladhak was conquered by Muslim dynasties CENTURIES before.

And Sikhs were merely a provincial state. Small and mostly irrelevant. Lasted only 40 years or so (went into chaos after that, and then 10 years later British ended it completely). There was no major confrontation between Qing forces and Sikhs.

 

[Alpha_PK]

Punjabi nationalism was never a thing in Pakistani Punjab, but now it is
Thanks to ethno-fascists from other provinces

Do you live in Punjab?
Honestly asking.

Coz what do you mean it is now?
What made you think that?

LMAO, no....area in and around Ladhak was conquered by Muslim dynasties CENTURIES before.

And Sikhs were merely a provincial state. Small and mostly irrelevant. Lasted only 40 years or so (went into chaos after that, and then 10 years later British ended it completely). There was no major confrontation between Qing forces and Sikhs.

Exactly. It was irrelevant.

The only people who care about it are the sikhs.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Do you live in Punjab?
Honestly asking.

Coz what do you mean it is now?
What made you think that?

Yes, I live in Punjab, and I know it firsthand