What's new

Why is Europe exporting jihadis to the Middle East?

Al Bhatti

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Nov 16, 2009
Messages
5,686
Reaction score
6
Country
Pakistan
Location
United Arab Emirates
February 16, 2015

Why is Europe exporting jihadis to the Middle East?

Europe has a problem with home-grown terrorists. And it is now exporting jihadis to the Middle East.

That statement, indisputable though it is, is rarely the way the current crisis of home-grown terrorism in Europe is framed.

Usually, it is placed the other way around, as if it is men from the Middle East who are causing chaos on the streets of European cities.

But, in fact, very few of the criminal and terror attacks that have taken place in Europe in recent years have been perpetrated by foreigners.

You don’t have to go all the way back to the 7/7 attackers in London in 2005 – all of whom were British – to see this trend.

The jihadist who attacked a Jewish museum in Brussels last year was French, as were both the gunmen who attacked the Charlie Hebdo magazine offices in Paris last month. The suspected gunman who attacked a cafe in Denmark over the weekend was Danish.

At least 3,000 other Europeans have come to the Middle East to fight alongside ISIL, exporting their peculiarly European brand of jihadism to the region. What is it about European societies that they breed such intolerance and violence?

Let’s stop there. Because the idea that European societies are exporting their problems to the Middle East is as simplistic as the idea that the Middle East is exporting its problems to Europe. There is clearly a two-way street.

The current problem of political violence in the name of religion that plagues both the Middle East and European societies does not have one root cause. If it did, it would be easier to deal with. The fact it has so many fathers is what makes it such a challenge.

The collapse of nation states in the Levant, the use of warped theological arguments, the questioning of generational and religious authority – all of these aspects play a role.

There is another element, however, and that is the peculiar lure of jihadi violence to certain Europeans.

Doubtless, some of this has to do with ethnic and religious heritage: it is easier to be attracted by an idea if you are already familiar with the linguistic or religious reference points these militant groups use.

But it is also clear that this ethnic and religious heritage aspect is not necessary for radicalisation – jihadis have come from Christian as well as European backgrounds.

Moreover, a scan of the backgrounds of both the French Charlie Hebdo killers and the suspected Danish gunman show they were known to the police for other criminal activities. Political violence, it appears clear, is merely the latest stage of their rejection of their own societies. But it is also, to be truthful, easy to be entranced: to a certain type of disaffected European, the bloody violence and destruction of ISIL is appealing.

To them, the fighters are romantic. They stand for something. They reject the materialism of the world. They are unafraid to go against everything the modern world tells them. Every parent of teenagers will recognise that impetus to carve out a space in the world that is unique.

It is not incompatible to say that some European jihadis are motivated by a rejection of their culture, while others join ISIL out of a belief in a supranational caliphate or to defend their communities in the middle of the chaos of a civil war. Many questions can lead to the same answer. Equally, though, the same question can have many different answers. The reason why young men join the jihad can vary. Without a doubt, the jihadist cancer raging in Syria and Iraq is a symptom of the collapse of Arab states.

But the jihadist narrative has also found fertile soil in Europe, among Europeans. Until European states address the estrangement of young people that makes them so prone to enchantment by extremists, the waves of European jihadis waging attacks on Middle Eastern soil won’t stop.

Why is Europe exporting jihadis to the Middle East? | The National
 
. .
February 16, 2015

Why is Europe exporting jihadis to the Middle East?

Europe has a problem with home-grown terrorists. And it is now exporting jihadis to the Middle East.

That statement, indisputable though it is, is rarely the way the current crisis of home-grown terrorism in Europe is framed.

Usually, it is placed the other way around, as if it is men from the Middle East who are causing chaos on the streets of European cities.

But, in fact, very few of the criminal and terror attacks that have taken place in Europe in recent years have been perpetrated by foreigners.

You don’t have to go all the way back to the 7/7 attackers in London in 2005 – all of whom were British – to see this trend.

The jihadist who attacked a Jewish museum in Brussels last year was French, as were both the gunmen who attacked the Charlie Hebdo magazine offices in Paris last month. The suspected gunman who attacked a cafe in Denmark over the weekend was Danish.

At least 3,000 other Europeans have come to the Middle East to fight alongside ISIL, exporting their peculiarly European brand of jihadism to the region. What is it about European societies that they breed such intolerance and violence?

Let’s stop there. Because the idea that European societies are exporting their problems to the Middle East is as simplistic as the idea that the Middle East is exporting its problems to Europe. There is clearly a two-way street.

The current problem of political violence in the name of religion that plagues both the Middle East and European societies does not have one root cause. If it did, it would be easier to deal with. The fact it has so many fathers is what makes it such a challenge.

The collapse of nation states in the Levant, the use of warped theological arguments, the questioning of generational and religious authority – all of these aspects play a role.

There is another element, however, and that is the peculiar lure of jihadi violence to certain Europeans.

Doubtless, some of this has to do with ethnic and religious heritage: it is easier to be attracted by an idea if you are already familiar with the linguistic or religious reference points these militant groups use.

But it is also clear that this ethnic and religious heritage aspect is not necessary for radicalisation – jihadis have come from Christian as well as European backgrounds.

Moreover, a scan of the backgrounds of both the French Charlie Hebdo killers and the suspected Danish gunman show they were known to the police for other criminal activities. Political violence, it appears clear, is merely the latest stage of their rejection of their own societies. But it is also, to be truthful, easy to be entranced: to a certain type of disaffected European, the bloody violence and destruction of ISIL is appealing.

To them, the fighters are romantic. They stand for something. They reject the materialism of the world. They are unafraid to go against everything the modern world tells them. Every parent of teenagers will recognise that impetus to carve out a space in the world that is unique.

It is not incompatible to say that some European jihadis are motivated by a rejection of their culture, while others join ISIL out of a belief in a supranational caliphate or to defend their communities in the middle of the chaos of a civil war. Many questions can lead to the same answer. Equally, though, the same question can have many different answers. The reason why young men join the jihad can vary. Without a doubt, the jihadist cancer raging in Syria and Iraq is a symptom of the collapse of Arab states.

But the jihadist narrative has also found fertile soil in Europe, among Europeans. Until European states address the estrangement of young people that makes them so prone to enchantment by extremists, the waves of European jihadis waging attacks on Middle Eastern soil won’t stop.

Why is Europe exporting jihadis to the Middle East? | The National
you reap what you sow.

Admit it or not todays problems are a result of all the europeans colonial/imperialist ways. Who told them to divide up the middle east as they saw fit? They didn't take into account demograpahics etc. Created most of the issues today.

Play with fire, then get ready to get burnt.
 
.
Because the Jihadies were created in Europe by Middle eastern Dollars.
 
. . .
Please don't call them jihadis, good people! They are for the most part terrorists! Most of them do not fight for Islam or they would not kill other Muslims?
See here for a difference in terms I trust you already know :
News lexicon : ISIL, islamists, jihadists, terrorists & anti-semitism. | Definitive Lapse of Reason
or here from PDF's own pages for a true Muslim's opinion :
Old lady stands up against ISIS !

p4kistan is not wrong in his analysis but I trust there is more ( some blame goes to local leaders in some M-E countries too ) : all 4 guys involved in the Paris and Copenhagen attacks had gone to prison for instance. Before they turned to terrorist acts.
The main reason IMHoH is how they grew up. Many have been treated as second class citizens where they come from for instance. And the lack of of direction in their lives makes them easy preys to what they see as a "greater calling".

There is a multiplicity of factors at play. There are Muslims in the French Armed Forces for example. They also chose combat duty but in an entirely other direction?

Each of us is responsible for his own choices in the end.

Peace out, Tay.
 
Last edited:
.
The reason why young men join the jihad can vary. Without a doubt, the jihadist cancer raging in Syria and Iraq is a symptom of the collapse of Arab states.....

Until European states address the estrangement of young people that makes them so prone to enchantment by extremists, the waves of European jihadis waging attacks on Middle Eastern soil won’t stop.

The article kind of answered it's own question.

The answer is simple.

You have 2nd generation immigrants who:

1. Haven't been able to integrate into the society, they feel marginalized.
a. The host nation promotes their history that they brought civilization to barbarians
b. Crime rate many from the immigrant communities, have left a sour taste in the mouths of the native citizens which cause many of them to withhold employment to the immigrant community.
c. 2nd Generation immigrants have turned to the religion, where they feel accepted, its here where many of the Jihadi sympathizers break down the children to go fight for ISIS et al
d. Studies prove income correlates to the religiosity of an individual. Low Income = More Religious
2. They don't know the sacrifices their parents made to get to the host nation.
a. They're given free medical and education​

3. They don't know the struggles in their native country.


Because the concept of 'freedom' in Europe and America has gone overboard.

Freedom hasn't gone overboard. These individuals can 'Jihad' in their host nations, but that option lacks the comradery the open battlefields of ISIS offers. Realize these guys feel outcast by their host nations, they want to feel 'part of' something.

simply because they can;t jihad in west

You can 'Jihad' anywhere.
 
.
You can 'Jihad' anywhere.

Nope,it ain't the same.There's no "glory" in jihad in the West.Sure you can do it,as some even do,shoot some random civilians before you go down like a dog in a storm of police bullets.But there's no "booty",no slaves,no innocents to torture for weeks at your disposal like there is in a ME conflict.
 
.
Nope,it ain't the same.There's no "glory" in jihad in the West.Sure you can do it,as some even do,shoot some random civilians before you go down like a dog in a storm of police bullets.But there's no "booty",no slaves,no innocents to torture for weeks at your disposal like there is in a ME conflict.

You're right there isn't as much glory in "Jihading" in Europe as there would be in the Middle East.

You go "Jihading" in Europe and the authorities will follow the cockroach trail back to these psychological murders who are too afraid to die themselves.

Remember the biggest threat isn't from the suicide bomber but the guy who made him become one.
 
.
February 22, 2015

UK counterterror officials criticised over Syria-bound missing schoolgirls

Family of missing girl ‘incredulous’ that daughter’s contact with terror suspect could go unnoticed by Scotland Yard and other agencies

British counter-terrorism officers have been accused of failing to take basic steps to prevent young women from joining Daesh after three London schoolgirls evaded authorities to travel to Syria.

One of the missing girls, Shamima Begum, 15, is thought to have made online contact with a Scottish woman who left Britain to marry a Daesh fighter in 2013. The contact with Aqsa Mahmood, whose social media use is supposedly under surveillance by counterterror agencies, came two days before Begum slipped out of her East London home and met up with school friends Kadiza Sultana, 16, and Amira Abase, 15.

On 17 February, the three girls secretly made their way to Gatwick airport and caught a Turkish Airlines flight to Istanbul, Turkey, from where they are feared to be heading towards Islamic State-held territory in Syria. A Twitter account thought to be linked to Begum shows that she contacted Mahmood, a prominent online advocate of Daesh, on February 15, saying: “follow me so I can dm you back”.

Aamer Anwar, a lawyer for Mahmood’s family, said on Sunday they were “incredulous” that the contact could go unnoticed by Scotland Yard and other counterterror agencies. “We are aware from contact with Special Branch and the police that her social media contact is regularly checked and regularly monitored,” he told the BBC. “The idea that a young 15-year-old should make contact with Aqsa, who’s regarded as a terrorist, yet no action is taken, the family of that young girl do not have the customary knock on the front door.

“The fact that these three girls manage to reach the airport — the common sense approach of Special Branch at the airport, the UK border agencies, don’t notice the fact that two 15-year-olds [and] a 16-year-old are unaccompanied, going on a flight to Turkey, the staging post to Syria which is what Aqsa did herself and they aren’t stopped.

“Obviously the family are deeply distressed and angry and they want answers because they’re thinking how many other families is this happening to.”

Scotland Yard said on Friday that it had interviewed the three missing girls in December after one of their 15-year-old school friends boarded a flight to Turkey in a bid to join Daesh militants. The four were all students at the Bethnal Green Academy school in East London.

However, officers said interviews were part of a routine inquiry and that the three were not put under any kind of surveillance. “There was nothing to suggest at the time that the girls themselves were at risk and indeed their disappearance has come as a great surprise, not least to their own families,” a Scotland Yard spokesman said.

Detectives are investigating whether the girls have been in contact with their school friend in an effort to cross the Turkish border into Syria. They are working closely with Turkish authorities in the hope that the snowy conditions in Istanbul may have disrupted their travel overland

On Saturday night, the families of the three girls issued emotional appeals for them to return home. Begum’s family said: “We miss you terribly and are extremely worried about you. Please, if you hear this message, get in touch and let us know you are safe. We want you home with us. You belong at home with us. Syria is a dangerous place and we don’t want you to go there. Get in touch with the police and they will help to bring you home. You are not in any trouble.

“We understand you have strong feelings and want to help those you believe are suffering in Syria. You can help from home, you don’t have to put yourself in danger.”

Kadiza’s family released a similar statement, which said: “We are not angry with you and you have not done anything wrong. We miss you terribly, especially Mum, and things have not been the same without you.”

Amira’s family named the missing girl for the first time in a statement in which they also appealed for her to return home.

The Abase family said: “Amira, we miss you so much, everyone, your family and your friends.

“We want you to come home as soon as possible; all we are hoping for is you to come home safe, we love you so much.

“Please come home Amira, everyone is missing you. You are strong, smart, beautiful and we are hoping you will make the right decision.

“We miss you more that you can imagine. We are worried and we want you to think about what you have left behind.”

Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, the chair of the Commons health committee, said she had “no sympathy for so-called A-grade girls travelling to Syria without doing their homework on IS [Daesh] rape & murder of women”. She called for strict measures at the border to prevent under-18s from flying to Turkey without parental consent.

On Twitter, she said: “Joining IS knowingly colludes with their grotesque mass murders, torture, enforced slavery & rape.”

UK counterterror officials criticised over Syria-bound missing schoolgirls | GulfNews.com
 
. .
February 24, 2015

Spain breaks up online network recruiting young women for Daesh
Authorities were working to establish links

Spain said on Tuesday it had broken up an online network accused of recruiting young women to join Daesh militants fighting in Iraq and Syria and arrested four suspects.

The arrests came as European nations scramble to halt a surge in young people wanting to travelling to Iraq and Syria to fight with the jihadists.

Two of the suspects were arrested in Melilla, the Spanish enclave neighbouring Morocco, in the latest operation by Spain’s authorities targeting such recruiting networks.

The others were detained in Girona and Barcelona in Spain’s northeast.

Police were conducting searches of the homes of all four suspects.

The two detained in Melilla were said to be behind the creation and operation of several internet platforms spreading propaganda, particularly for the Daesh group, the interior ministry said in a statement.

“In line with the strategy of the Daesh terrorist group, they focused on the recruitment of women who, after a process of indoctrination, would end up joining the terrorist group in conflict zones,” it said.

Private home visits were also organised for recruiting purposes and a number of young people had begun preparations to travel to war zones, the ministry said.

One of those arrested ran a “virtual community” with Daesh propaganda and more than 1,000 subscribers, it said.

On Facebook, he had a “multitude of subscribers” outside Spain, including Latin America and countries such as Belgium, France, Morocco, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Turkey and the United States, the statement said.

One of the suspects arrested in Spain’s northeast was described as a Daesh sympathiser-turned-propagandist who had the profile of a “lone wolf” who acted alone.

The other was said to have edited and distributed videos to recruit potential jihadists.

The authorities were working to establish links between the two in Melilla and those in Spain’s northeast.

Spain has dismantled several similar networks, particularly in Melilla and its other North African enclave, Ceuta.

The two enclaves on the constitute the only land borders between Africa and Europe and attract thousands of people, mostly sub-Saharan Africans, trying to reach European countries.

An estimated 550 Western women are believed to have gone to Syria to join the jihadist cause.

Spanish authorities estimate that around 100 nationals have joined jihadist fighters in Iraq and Syria, a lower number than those from Britain, France and Germany.

In August two young Spanish women, one of them under 18, were arrested in Melilla on suspicion of trying to join a Daesh cell in the Middle East.

Seven people were arrested in Spain and Morocco in December for allegedly recruiting young women via the internet to join Daesh fighting in Iraq and Syria.


Britain says some 500 people have travelled from the country to join jihadist groups, while France says about 1,400 residents have either joined the jihadist cause in Syria and Iraq or were planning to do so.


France on Monday announced that it had confiscated the passports of six suspected would-be jihadists and would ban another 40 from travelling.


Spain suffered one of Europe’s worst ever peacetime attacks on March 11, 2004, when Al Qaida-inspired bombings killed 191 people in an attack on Madrid commuter trains.

Spain breaks up online network recruiting young women for Daesh | GulfNews.com
 
. .
LOL You meant pity of course but that is a deliciously sarcastic comment,
:rofl:

Thanks for the laugh, Tay.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom