Why I am resisting the Vaccines: A Personal Take!

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470,115 died in India so far from from corona ,

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so ?

 

[sammuel]

so ?

90% of the patients hospitalized in my country are Not vaccinated.


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[-=virus=-]

I'm not scared of it, I know an old lady in her 90s who recovered just fine

90% of the patients hospitalized in my country are Not vaccinated.


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stay scared, then "save lives" be a covid hero all you want

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

The vaccines are just schemes for rich to get richer and make working class slave

Human body evolves and builds immunity on its own, sure yeah, there would be deaths but thats how nature works.

Fear killed more people than Covid.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Maybe because you do not want to die or infect others who might die ?

We remember here well how it was before the vaccine. We where at lock down , at a certain point the hospitals got full and there is no other choice but to declare a lock down.

Not to mention all those who would die without the vaccine - We remember well the numbers that where dying before the vaccine.

And your solution ? to just let all those people die ?

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HEY IF YOU ARE VACCINATED THEN WHY ARE YOU WORRIED YOU ARE PROTECTED. The hospital staff were caught trying to claim or even kill people i know such stories. it should be optional not forced on people. the vaccine doesn't not even protect you you still can get infected wtf, i heard this on a radio station. plz dont ask for sources or ref i dont have them at this moment in time.

 

[ummarz]

Vaccines work very well on a population level. Yes some people do indeed have bad reactions to them, but on a population level they are better to have than not.

Some scientists may be bought, but not most and definitely not all. Trust in the science, you are reading this msg because of science, you can come online and give your opinion to random strangers, is because of science. Let it play its role and let it take us into the future. Doctors, give up their own personal desires, to work for other humans. They dedicate their lives to serve and treat, most doctors would never knowingly put patients in danger. Do you think you know more than your doctor who is telling you to get vaccinated.

It is okay to discuss science. But lets discuss it scientifically, and not with some ridiculous conspiracy theories.

COVID vaccine is not here to control you, at least not in a way most people against it believe. Perhaps it will benefit the economy and big corporations if every thing went back to normal. I would agree with that. But guess what, it benefits all of us, haven't we all been affected by the virus. Aren't all of our economies in shambles because of it. Aren't we all struggling. So yes, big corporations benefit, but so do we.

The fact is that with COVID vaccine, you reduce the mortality rate compared to natural immunity. With COVID vaccine, if you get the virus you get a less serious illness. With COVID vaccine, you reduce the risk of mutation as compared to acquired immunity. The longer the COVID virus sits in you the higher the chance that it will mutate. With vaccine the duration is shorter on a population level.

I understand that if you have already been exposed you might be vary to get the shot. However, I don't believe we have any data to suggest adverse interactions of that nature on a population level. In my opinion, and in simple words, if you get the shot after you have already been exposed to the virus it may or may not help you as much since you already have antibodies, but it may instead just act as a booster for you. Yet I don't believe you have anything to lose, esp on a population level.

Imagine if we never got the vaccine. First the first wave would wipe out a bunch of us. Then the first mutation, than various other mutations, coming and wiping us out. How many waves could your body really handle? The more humans that get infected without the vaccine, the higher the chance of mutations. Its simply a numbers game. When would the mutations stop? All those people who got hospitalized for covid, but never got the vaccine, lets say you survived, would you meet somebody with omicron?

All in all, I understand that the doc in the video believes he is already immune and doesn't want to get the vaccine. Antibody titres wane after a period of time. Sure he can risk it. I would be ok with that. But he could also get the vaccine and be sure that he is better protected. For him, it would be similar to getting booster.

 

[sammuel]

I'm not scared of it, I know an old lady in her 90s who recovered just fine

stay scared, then "save lives" be a covid hero all you want

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[-=virus=-]

congratulations !

you are a covid hero !!

some day the world will realize just how many "lives you saved"

all about the saving lives, isn't it ?

you'll be the hero that's first in line and last out every time you're mandated to take a booster vax

 

[313ghazi]

One thing nearly all anti vaxxers have is a limited understanding of Science. I think analysis, critical thinking and reasoning should be tested seperately before anyone is allowed to pass school.

A few facts;

• Vaccines have been rushed through but this does not mean QC has been compromised. As someone who has worked in the Clinical trials industry before, I can tell you the biggest delay in trials is aquiring funding and waiting in turn for paperwork to be signed off. COVID vaccines have been prioritised ahead of everything.
• This does not mean they are not falliable, or that corners have not been cut, there is a risk of that, but without evidence to the contrary, it's irresponisible to perpetuate that as fact.
• Vaccines are not cures for cOVID, they help you build resistance to it, the effectiveness of that resistence varies from person to person.
• Statistical outliers exist in every form of scientific study. If you know someone who was hospitalised by a vaccine, there are hundreds of thousands of cases where people weren't. There are people that are allergic to paracetomol and ibuprofen too. I bet it doesn't stop you taking painkillers.
• There will be some people that will get COVID and have no symptoms. That doesn't mean they aren't capable of transmitting it to those who will get symptoms.
• Vaccination drives around the world are about risk management and reducing the risk of COVID-19 to human life and equally importantly the healthcare services in countries around the world.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

There will be some people that will get COVID and have no symptoms.

majority actually..
thats the thing
you folks lie on the face and then ask us to trust u.

and its not just you the media the governments..
its all about money and big pharma...its pretty clear now..The whole panic was built on lies and insufficient info.


the vaccine wanes within 6 months..this should be the biggest news on media..whay isnt it there?
your natural immunity is better and stroner as it kicks in a few days after infection and builds the B memory cells.

 

[313ghazi]

majority actually..
thats the thing
you folks lie on the face and then ask us to trust u.

and its not just you the media the governments..
its all about money and big pharma...its pretty clear now..The whole panic was built on lies and insufficient info.


the vaccine wanes within 6 months..this should be the biggest news on media..whay isnt it there?
your natural immunity is better and stroner as it kicks in a few days after infection and builds the B memory cells.

Firstly to pick at the use of the word some rather than majority just goes to show how hollow your argument is. I provide a brief summary and you nitpick grammar.

Secondly let's take you at face value and assume the word majority is correct. Where is the data to support this? Which clinical trials have been done, what statistical evidence has been provided to support that theory?

Who told you the vaccine was a cure that would last forever? People are already taking booster jabs. People have been taking flu vaccines in developed countries for decades. Does this mean the flu has gone away? No it provides additional protection against it for the most vulnerable.

 

[Meengla]

... Your anti body number would be more meaningful if you can compare your number with the number of antibodies of someone who has been vaccinated. Just looking at that number I don't know if that is a high enough anti body count.

Per the graphic I shared in the OP from June 2021, I had 22 TIMES HIGHER the amount of antibodies from the baseline of 8 units. And in late Sept. another blood sample said 'High Titer' but the blood donation agency is not giving me actual numbers despite my requests--I think probably some regulations preventing that; the June number was from another agency. And I have been carrying the antibodies since at least mid Feb. 2021 without ANY symptoms. And even if the antibodies were low there are the Memory Cells to respond to new infections. And I also know that the immunity given by the vaccines are fading to the point of requiring boosters after about 6 months. And I strongly suspect that in populations with even 80%+ full vaccinations there are significant breakthrough infections of the vaccinated ones but that data point is being intentionally downplayed.

Anyway, I am not against the vaccines. Never been. But they are not for me and probably not for billions of people who got the Natural Immunity and are living just fine, especially in poorer/warmer countries. People are free to take the vaccines along with their breakfast everyday for all I care!! But don't force it upon young, healthy, and Naturally Immune people like me because even if there is 1% chance of an immune backlash, I can't take that. The title of this thread intentionally has 'a personal take' inserted: It is my choice given what I know. And I dare say I will be proved correct about the Natural Immunity. My biggest fear is that massive vaccinations and repeated boosters lasting next several years could generate variants which would not only bypass the vaccine immunity but also render the Natural Immunity ineffective. That's the Doom's Day scenario for the humanity.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

And I also know that the immunity given by the vaccines are fading to the point of requiring boosters after about 6 months.

Yes, and yet the johnshopkins article says vaccination is still better than natural immunity because natural immunity fades even faster.

"New studies show that natural immunity to the coronavirus weakens (wanes) over time, and does so faster than immunity provided by COVID-19 vaccination."

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

... Your fears about mutations are correct, however, natural immunity gives less protection against mutations than vaccines do according to the Johnshopkins article;

"People infected with earlier versions of the coronavirus and who haven’t been vaccinated might be more vulnerable to new mutations of the coronavirus such as those found in the delta variant."

 

[jamal18]

Yes, and yet the johnshopkins article says vaccination is still better than natural immunity because natural immunity fades even faster.

"New studies show that natural immunity to the coronavirus weakens (wanes) over time, and does so faster than immunity provided by COVID-19 vaccination."

No. The reports I read say that natural immunity is 'robust and long lasting.'

There is a campaign to belittle this, the CDC are even saying that natural immunity doesn't apply in this case .

As Professor Sunetrea Gupta said, 'they are re-writing science.'