Why have the words of Pakistanis become so unreliable?

[Thorough Pro]

Let's first talk about 90, 180, 270 and 360 degree turns by Indian PM Narendra Modi and the subject of unreliability.

Generally when we read a news item,we don't double check it...but in case of pakistan any news that is reported in their dailies,TV news or even words uttered by their PM aren't taken seriously by anyone..I always double check them...why has pak society degenerated to such a state that the world stopped taking it seriously?I remember the story of the boy that cried wolf..so many conspiracy theories..no honor or integrity in what they utter or report..a chaotic society which has lost all the faith of international community..conspiracy theories abound there..will Pakistan ever be able to get out of this mess?there is nothing more demeaning or insulting than people doubting every word you speak.

Only promotion of rational thoughts and education can save them.

 

[Styx]

Generally when we read a news item,we don't double check it...but in case of pakistan any news that is reported in their dailies,TV news or even words uttered by their PM aren't taken seriously by anyone..I always double check them...why has pak society degenerated to such a state that the world stopped taking it seriously?I remember the story of the boy that cried wolf..so many conspiracy theories..no honor or integrity in what they utter or report..a chaotic society which has lost all the faith of international community..conspiracy theories abound there..will Pakistan ever be able to get out of this mess?there is nothing more demeaning or insulting than people doubting every word you speak.

Only promotion of rational thoughts and education can save them.

how Americans view Pakistan:

how Pakistanis view democracy:
Democracy's Surprisingly Low Approval Rating in Pakistan - The Atlantic

they need to eliminate the cancer of jihad and terrorism that has gripped large parts of their population for the world to take them seriously

 

[Adecypher]

One Iraq war example to justify your conspiracy theories and all the lies you people believe?

That opens the debate isn't it...why should I believe everything fed to me by the same media...did people like you came forward to criticize its role ...? It is important because these events give strength to the notion to NOT accept everything ... rather ask questions and look at things on a whole ...

 

[New Resolve]

UN Resolutions on Kashmir. Hang your head in Shame India, You gave your word to the World and reneged.

 

[acid rain]

UN Resolutions on Kashmir. Hang your head in Shame India, You gave your word to the World and reneged.

First clause of the UN resolution : All pakistani troops and it's militia will vacate kashmir and GB...not happened still.

In fact pakistan has given a part of Kashmir to china without approval. Its pakistan that's in violation of the UN declaration.

 

[New Resolve]

Here's some light reading for ya pal, the tribesman who were fighting there were withdrawn in good faith but India insulted the worlds good will and its good name by back tracking. You guys can never wriggle your way out of this one
nice try.

(a) To secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani Nationals not normally resident therein, who have entered the State for the purposes of fighting and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State.

(b) To make known to all concerned that the measures indicated in this and the following paragraphs provide full freedom to all subjects of the State, and that therefore they should co-operate in the maintenance of peace and order.

2. The Government of India should:

(a) When it is established to the satisfaction of the Commission set up in accordance with the Council’s resolution of 20 January that the tribesmen are withdrawing and that arrangements for the cessation of the fighting have become effective, put into operation in consultation with the Commission, a plan for withdrawing their own forces from Jammu and Kashmir and reducing them progressively to the minimum strength required for the support of civil power in the maintenance of law and order;

(b) Make known that the withdrawal is taking place in stages and announce the completion of each stage;

(c) When the Indian forces shall have been reduced to the minimum strength mentioned in (a) above, arrange for consultation with the Commission for the stationing of the remaining forces to he carried out in accordance with the following principles:

(i) That the presence of troops should not afford any intimidation or appearance of intimidation to the inhabitants of the State.

(ii) That as small a number as possible should he retained in forward areas.

(iii) That any reserve of troops which may he included in the total strength should he located within their present base area.

3. The Government of India should agree that, until such time as the Plebiscite Administration referred to below finds it necessary to exercise the powers of direction and supervision over the state forces and policy provided for in paragragh 8, they will be held in areas to be agreed upon with the Plebiscite Administrator.
UOTE="acid rain, post: 7396729, member: 143511"]First clause of the UN resolution : All pakistani troops and it's militia will vacate kashmir and GB...not happened still.

In fact pakistan has given a part of Kashmir to china without approval. Its pakistan that's in violation of the UN declaration.[/QUOTE]

 

[Paranoid Android]

UN Resolutions on Kashmir. Hang your head in Shame India, You gave your word to the World and reneged.

Bcz you need balls to go to un...

 

[acid rain]

Here's some light reading for ya pal, the tribesman who were fighting there were withdrawn in good faith but India insulted the worlds good will and its good name by back tracking. You guys can never wriggle your way out of this one
nice try.

(a) To secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani Nationals not normally resident therein, who have entered the State for the purposes of fighting and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State.

(b) To make known to all concerned that the measures indicated in this and the following paragraphs provide full freedom to all subjects of the State, and that therefore they should co-operate in the maintenance of peace and order.

2. The Government of India should:

(a) When it is established to the satisfaction of the Commission set up in accordance with the Council’s resolution of 20 January that the tribesmen are withdrawing and that arrangements for the cessation of the fighting have become effective, put into operation in consultation with the Commission, a plan for withdrawing their own forces from Jammu and Kashmir and reducing them progressively to the minimum strength required for the support of civil power in the maintenance of law and order;

(b) Make known that the withdrawal is taking place in stages and announce the completion of each stage;

(c) When the Indian forces shall have been reduced to the minimum strength mentioned in (a) above, arrange for consultation with the Commission for the stationing of the remaining forces to he carried out in accordance with the following principles:

(i) That the presence of troops should not afford any intimidation or appearance of intimidation to the inhabitants of the State.

(ii) That as small a number as possible should he retained in forward areas.

(iii) That any reserve of troops which may he included in the total strength should he located within their present base area.

3. The Government of India should agree that, until such time as the Plebiscite Administration referred to below finds it necessary to exercise the powers of direction and supervision over the state forces and policy provided for in paragragh 8, they will be held in areas to be agreed upon with the Plebiscite Administrator.
UOTE="acid rain, post: 7396729, member: 143511"]First clause of the UN resolution : All pakistani troops and it's militia will vacate kashmir and GB...not happened still.

In fact pakistan has given a part of Kashmir to china without approval. Its pakistan that's in violation of the UN declaration.

[/QUOTE]

1. As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to withdraw its troops from that State.

 

[Windjammer]

Whether it's obsession, fear or mere jealousy, Indians who take pride in aping the west will make every futile effort to demean Pakistan. Just like US is always more concerned about say Russia and China, since they pose a threat to it, Indians will always have China and Pakistan and on their psyche, which is understandable since countries like say Bangladesh, Nepal or Sri Lanka don't represent much of a threat or challenge to India but given the chance, even they don't hold back in giving their large neighbour a bloody nose. Without any link or evidence, the OP has only expressed his mental frustration, however let's see what the others specially in the west think of India and Indians.

India: Most Hated Countries | TheTopTens.com

 

[Shamain]

Indian boat drama???


Btw OP you are a seasoned troll always creating such belittling Pakistan threads. Dont get ur obsession with pakistanis. *shrugs shoulders

 

[OrionHunter]

Generally when we read a news item,we don't double check it...but in case of pakistan any news that is reported in their dailies,TV news or even words uttered by their PM aren't taken seriously by anyone..I always double check them...why has pak society degenerated to such a state that the world stopped taking it seriously?I remember the story of the boy that cried wolf..so many conspiracy theories..no honor or integrity in what they utter or report..a chaotic society which has lost all the faith of international community..conspiracy theories abound there..will Pakistan ever be able to get out of this mess?there is nothing more demeaning or insulting than people doubting every word you speak.

Only promotion of rational thoughts and education can save them.

You say Pak society has degenerated? How about our own sheeple like Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti, another MP Sakshi Maharaj who praised the assassin of Mahatma Gandhi as a “patriot”, Mohan Bhagwat, the chief of the RSS, Pravin Togadia of the hard-line Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), MNS and Ram Sene goons, etc etc who are poisoning the Indian society with their atrocious behavior and inflammatory rants?

And our News media which believes in nothing but sensationalism and exaggeration for TRPs that sucks to hell and high heaven?

We need to get our house in order first before lambasting others.

 

[macnurv]

I am in a Pakistani forum to learn about Pakistan..it is natural to ask questions about pak..it is not obsession..just a desire to know my neighbour a bit

You didn't ask a question but tried to present your opinion as facts.

One Iraq war example to justify your conspiracy theories and all the lies you people believe?

On topic of conspiracies, wasn't practicing on "Kala Pathar" a fart child of Indian media. I really like how Indians always believe in their non existent inherent superiority to all its neighbors. Time and time again, such behavior is displayed by Indians.

Whether it's obsession, fear or mere jealousy, Indians who take pride in aping the west will make every futile effort to demean Pakistan. Just like US is always more concerned about say Russia and China, since they pose a threat to it, Indians will always have China and Pakistan and on their psyche, which is understandable since countries like say Bangladesh, Nepal or Sri Lanka don't represent much of a threat or challenge to India but given the chance, even they don't hold back in giving their large neighbour a bloody nose. Without any link or evidence, the OP has only expressed his mental frustration, however let's see what the others specially in the west think of India and Indians.

India: Most Hated Countries | TheTopTens.com

Now we shouldn't act surprised here, after all this is the very same country that can not make a flyable plane even after 30 years, yet accuses us of not having built anything and mind you their so called "Make in India" is not "Made in India".

 

[Shamain]

You say Pak society has degenerated? How about our own sheeple like Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti, another MP Sakshi Maharaj who praised the assassin of Mahatma Gandhi as a “patriot”, Mohan Bhagwat, the chief of the RSS, Pravin Togadia of the hard-line Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), MNS and Ram Sene goons, etc etc who are poisoning the Indian society with their atrocious behavior and inflammatory rants?

And our News media which believes in nothing but sensationalism and exaggeration for TRPs that sucks to hell and high heaven?

We need to get our house in order first before lambasting others.

There is one religious bigot on ur side,i think subramaniam who had made the statement that muslim women's dead bodies shud be taken out of graves and , raped and disrepected.

Someone had made such statement.

 

[umairkhan4]

No country's media is perfect..but pak media and its people are on another level.
Don't drag India into it..stick to the topic

you indians love commenting on pakistan dont you. i can mention a few indians who nobody takes seriously shiv sena *cough* subramanian swamy *cough* ajit doval

 

[saadee]

On

One Iraq war example to justify your conspiracy theories and all the lies you people believe?

Only two words for you India.tv. It's always your fault eh?