The aircraft's FOC. Followed by the development of Mk2.
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All that is with HAL now. Mk2 is still ADA's baby.
IAF is on record that it will not accept these. If IAF at end do accept tejas it will be under govt pressure
Nothing wrong with that. I think, in this case, both the IAF and the IA are dangerously wrong. I am saying 'dangerously', and I mean precisely that.
They will never admit it. Trust me...to them this gen 3+ plane is the bestest plane on earth. The only reason IAF is buying some is because they were shoved down their throats.
Please stay out of this. Your comments are not needed; people like you and Two only pollute a thread.
Yes, there is a reason for that. We do need a one-time blood transfusion, we do need to import a batch of light fighters until the Tejas production catches up.
There is a major contradiction here: we cannot make large numbers, because that will exhaust the requirements very quickly, and the installed lines and trained people will suddenly fall idle. The AMCA may or may not, in all probability not, be possible to build on the lines installed.
If the build capacity is longer term and financially viable, then it leaves a gap in the squadron strength, which will give any planner facing the serried ranks of PLAAF aircraft a serious case of the fidgets.
Thanks to the bloody Congress, we are faced with this difficult situation, and there is no legitimate way out of it but to import a bulk lot, and give ourselves more time with which to work on the Tejas, and bring it out in sufficient numbers.
Your interventions are good ones, but they would read much better without the banter. Do please continue to make your very good points, remembering that there are (very) old people reading it, and the number of 'Wows' you put in frightens them and makes them jump and choke on their Ovaltine!
Here is how I read the article.
Tejas started in 1980 ---- 37 years ago
Had sanction so delayed --- what santions
Are you kidding? One morning, our engineers went to work, and were stopped by the guards on duty at the Lockheed Martin facilities, and told that they would have to return to India immediately. All their own work in progress was left behind.
The flight control system was re-developed from scratch, and we saw it being done. It was a marvellous job.
I am disappointed at your rather artificial scepticism.
New squadron initiated with 3 aircraft.....lol
If you want to discuss it at that level, OK.
Indian air force has only order 40. Because it doenst want this aircraft?
Yes, it doesn't want this aircraft. It knows that not enough can be built in the time-frame in which they need it, and the only way out is imports, heavy imports. That does not rule out the Tejas, it merely means that the IAF has to shock government into realising the gravity of the situation. Compromises can follow.
123 aircraft will make up 6 squadrons....20.5 aircraft per squadron. How did the .5 aircraft work???
If I suggest that one wing and part of the fuselage, perhaps one landing wheel on some, two on others will do the arithmetic, will that keep you quiet for a few seconds? I am really disappointed. I thought you were a thinking member.
36 rafaels bought for €7.87bln No tech transfer but didn't but 130+ for €10bn with tech transfer. Crazy or what?
I can explain, but not to someone who asks,"If so, why so? And if not, why not?" Please continue; your wit and drollery is outstanding and I see the beginning of a brilliant future as a stand-up comic (perhaps one specialised in defence related subjects?) in these passages.
Briefly, there is no point in tech transfer on such small numbers. But please do not let a dried-up old stick interrupt the laugh-riot.
Now solution is to put out another tender for 100 plus aircraft to be made in India that may take another decade.
Currently 33 squadrons when 42 are minimun required and if mig 21 and 27 are retired down to 25.
In a fight I would back PAF without hesitation
We love make in India
Do feel free to remind us when you DID NOT back the PAF without hesitation.
This article is pure bullshit.
Six man hours for gripen AND 3.5 hours for F-16??????? WTF?
Grippen is known to be extremely maintenance friendly and requires 10 hours of maintenance for each hour in the sky.
F-16 3.5? Thats beyond belief!
If a fighter takes less than 10 hours then it is god sent. F-16? More like 15 -16 hours,
Please don't pay attention to that bit of mischief-making. The IAF has the desperately difficult task of grabbing budget amounts out of the Army and Navy budgets - the Navy has suddenly expanded in the think-space of the military planners and financial managers because of Chinese activity in the Indian Ocean. They said one or two clumsy and distasteful things that require only five minutes of investigation to correct.
There is, in addition, the genuine twin problems that first, the IAF has no prior experience of servicing the Tejas, and second, the initial builds were made with minor variations in every single aircraft. Trying to apply bulk maintenance standards to this early run is less than intelligent.
37 years and 20 aircraft. Need I say anymore
No.
You have made your point, shall we say? Thank you VERY much. You need not say any more, or anymore; you have made your points with grace, skill and dexterity, and may now rest on your laurels.
[edited: no wish to be personally abusive]
