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Why don't more Muslims speak out against the wanton destruction of Mecca's

Actually come to think of it, what the Saudis do in Mecca is none of anybody's concern because Mecca lies within the sovereign state of KSA. They can do as they please and others have no right to criticize it.

Ok I agree with you but can you destroy islamic signs and meanwhile call yourself Muslim?


"...To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block...."

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Muslims can speak against our "barbaric clergy" all they want, but it would be an exercise in futility. Qum has its own ka'ba, you can do your pilgrimage there.
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First of all it's not Qum , It's Tehran in Azadi sport complex and these people are Hajis who are gonna make a pilgrimage in mecca it might be the first time for some of them so here they got taught how to perform rituals nothing else . don't be that much idiot.
 
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this is interesting.............

Among the signs of the Hour mentioned by the Noble Messenger of Allah - Allah bless and greet him and his Family and Companions - in Sahih al-Bukhari is "when the poor, naked, barefoot shepherds of sheep and goats competing in constructing tall buildings”

When the belly of Makkah will be cleft open and through it will be dug out river-like passages (i.e. tunnels) and the buildings of the Holy City of Makkah will rise higher than its mountains, when you observe these signs, then understand that the time of trial is near at hand.”
 
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this is interesting.............

Among the signs of the Hour mentioned by the Noble Messenger of Allah - Allah bless and greet him and his Family and Companions - in Sahih al-Bukhari is "when the poor, naked, barefoot shepherds of sheep and goats competing in constructing tall buildings”

When the belly of Makkah will be cleft open and through it will be dug out river-like passages (i.e. tunnels) and the buildings of the Holy City of Makkah will rise higher than its mountains, when you observe these signs, then understand that the time of trial is near at hand.”

Even some Hindu scriptures predict the Kali Yuga is coming to an end and we will see a big cataclysm in a decade or so...:eek:
 
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Thats a very valid concern, Saudis have been doing this for ages, but no one ever objects.

thats because they are the true inheritors of mohammad who was also an arab.
if pakistan breaks temples do we ask why>
 
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The saudi's could have taken this opportunity to make this a great muslim tourist spot with show casing all the history

"BUT"

We as Muslims ourself are not strong enough to withstand the urge to perform some kind of shirk


eg: Muslim would take photos of such sites and god forbid use it for god knows what..............

Saudis should also see that such relics of Islamic importance is preserved for the future generations.

"No body owns the holy sites its just being maintained by the sauds...........and they are doing a pretty good job on this.

May Allah protect us all guide us on the right Path.
 
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The saudi's could have taken this opportunity to make this a great muslim tourist spot with show casing all the history

"BUT"

We as Muslims ourself are not strong enough to withstand the urge to perform some kind of shirk


eg: Muslim would take photos of such sites and god forbid use it for god knows what..............

Saudis should also see that such relics of Islamic importance is preserved for the future generations.

"No body owns the holy sites its just being maintained by the sauds...........and they are doing a pretty good job on this.

People who visit the Holy site's are guest of Allah, everyone does their little part in gaining this priceless Sawaab.

May Allah protect us all guide us on the right Path.
 
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Sorry loveicon but the destruction of the Qa'ba is one of the sign of the approaching Day of Judgement presumably after the the coming of Christ and Mahdi a time when Islam would be lifted up from the hearts of men......as far as i recall a man from Ethiopia would destroy it

give me source ?
 
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thats because they are the true inheritors of mohammad who was also an arab.
if pakistan breaks temples do we ask why>

Muslims are are the Ummat of Muhammad PBUH, not Saudis, Arabs or Africans.

Any Muslim be it from US, Pakistan, India or Somalia is from the Ummat of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

So cut the BS and don't talk about something you don't know.
 
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Muslims are are the Ummat of Muhammad PBUH, not Saudis, Arabs or Africans.

Any Muslim be it from US, Pakistan, India or Somalia is from the Ummat of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

So cut the BS and don't talk about something you don't know.

Myth: Muslim Ummah
Reality: There is no such thing as Muslim Ummah or United Muslim Nation but this facade has repeatedly been used in history to make fool of innocent people and turn them into political pawns!

The Myth of Islamic Ummah
WRITTEN BY AFTAB ZAIDI AUGUST 19, 2011 4:06 AM 6 COMMENTS
Historically speaking there has never been an alliance of Muslims. The concept of Muslim Ummah or “Community of Muslim Nations” has always been a popular notion among the larger Muslim population. Today Al Qaeda’s aspiration for world domination is also based on the same approach. However, unity among Muslims has been an elusive goal due to their internal feuds, treacheries and infighting.

Shias and Sunnis can never join forces because of their vast ideological differences. Shias idealize Ali (Muhammad’s son in law & the fourth caliph) claiming that it was his right to succeed after the death of Muhammad. On the contrary all four caliphs are held in very high esteem by the Sunnis.

The other and very significant bone of contention between Shias and Sunnis relates to “The Battle of the Camel”. This clash took place in Basra, Iraq in 656, between forces allied to Ali (Muhammad’s son in law & the fourth caliph) and Aisha (widow of Muhammad). Aisha wanted to take revenge from the assailants implicated in the assassination of the third caliph, Usman. Ten thousand men lost their lives on both sides. Two very close companions of the Prophet, Talha and Zubair who had accompanied Aisha, were also slain. Aisha remained unharmed till the end of the battle. However the seeds of discord were sown which exist till today. Shias and Sunnis even today are at each other’s throats due to this insignificant event of 7th century.

Currently there is deep hostility, suspicion and animosity between Saudi Arabia- the citadel of Islam, and Iran, a country with the huge Shia population. Both countries have been in competition for promoting their brand of Islam since the 1979 Iranian Revolution. Pakistan has been at the receiving end of these games. The Salafi regime of Saudi Arabia sponsored hundreds of Madrassas (religious schools) in Pakistan which churned out religious zombies. These fanatics currently are not only fighting the Americans in Afghanistan but are also involved in hundreds of terrorist incidents within Pakistan. Similarly, Shia Iran supported the Shiite organizations in Pakistan both financially and logistically. This unhindered backing gave birth to a sectarian monster, resulting in numerous killings on both the sides.

Saudi Arabia at the moment, just like Israel, is very concerned about the Iranian nuclear program. A nuclear Iran can not only affect the hegemony of Saudi Arabia in the Muslim world but also create trouble for it in the foreseeable future. According to credible press reports, recently the Saudi authorities have approved the use of a corridor of its airspace to Israeli fighter jets for an aerial attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. This has been denied by the Saudi regime. However this is not mere conjecture and the Saudis are very likely to be silent spectators in case of an Israeli bombardment of Iranian nuclear installations.

Two million Muslims were killed by Muslims in the Iran-Iraq War. Three million Sudanese Muslims have been killed by Muslims. More than 300,000 Muslims have been killed by Muslims in the ongoing Darfur conflict. Iraq invaded Kuwait and Syria invaded Lebanon. As of June 7, a total of 29,105 Pakistani Muslims have been killed by Muslims over the past seven years (as of June 2010).

Muslims are a divided lot. The need of the hour for them is to learn from Israel. This small country is surrounded by enemies. Despite very strong opposition, it has been able to withstand the onslaught of its Arab neighbors. It has decisively crushed its numerically superior foes during all the Arab-Israel wars. The birth of Israel right after the holocaust was no less than a miracle. Jews were systematically and institutionally prosecuted and murdered during the Second World War. It was their resilience, harmony, magnanimity and far sightedness that kept them together and eventually resulted in formation of the world’s first Jewish state.

The creation of this tiny country itself carries a very strong message for the Muslim population. It is essential for Muslim countries to reform, restructure, mould and base their societies on the universal principles of human rights, ethics and morality. The medieval scriptures of Islam have become redundant in this day and age. There can be no progress and reformation in their cultures until they let go off their obsession with religion.
 
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Myth: Muslim Ummah
Reality: There is no such thing as Muslim Ummah or United Muslim Nation but this facade has repeatedly been used in history to make fool of innocent people and turn them into political pawns!
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I wasn't talking about a Muslim Ummah in the sense of united Muslim countries etc etc. My point was the believers of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Ummat of Prophet Muhammad PBUH means those people who believed in His PBUH's teachings and Quran. This category includes all Muslims. And all Muslims have a equal right on Haram. It isn't the personal jageer of House of Saud, not of the Arabs, not of me, not of you. All Muslims have a claim to it.
 
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I wasn't talking about a Muslim Ummah in the sense of united Muslim countries etc etc. My point was the believers of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Ummat of Prophet Muhammad PBUH means those people who believed in His PBUH's teachings and Quran. This category includes all Muslims. And all Muslims have a equal right on Haram. It isn't the personal jageer of House of Saud, not of the Arabs, not of me, not of you. All Muslims have a claim to it.

you cant claim something belong to others. Makkah is our personal property. you are welcome to come for hajj or Umrah, other than that neither you nor anyone els can dictate on us what do or should not.

99 percent of our beliefs are common about the rest of them we need to talk , but can you talk with someone who call you apostate?



Al-Askari Mosque or حرمین عسکریین

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Al-Baqi' cemetery


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Please save my time. you are the last one could speak in such regards.
 
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thats because they are the true inheritors of mohammad who was also an arab.
if pakistan breaks temples do we ask why>

if you don't know about islam then please don't comment....no arab can say that he is the only one to whom Our Prophet(PBUH) belong....please gain some knowledge and then say something
 
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Bhai Raptor it goes both ways just look at shiachat or sunniforums i was horrified when i say that one member pointed out the name of Imam Hassan/Hussein on the pillars in Jannat ul Baqi and said "huh if this is true they (Saudis) must be muslims" no matter who attacks sunni or shia in Pakistan one wonders why Pakistan would support Iran if ever war was imposed on it(remember the article). The truth is while you or the Arabs may look to you legacy (as claimed by some Indians) something we don't have hence the concept of Ummah is very strong here and the rest is upto Allah either He will rally us to victory or decimate us like an abomination.
 
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