Why don't more Muslims speak out against the wanton destruction of Mecca's

[474474]

you cant claim something belong to others. Makkah is our personal property. you are welcome to come for hajj or Umrah, other than that neither you nor anyone els can dictate on us what do or should not.



Please save my time. you are the last one could speak in such regards.

If that was true, why did the prophet SAW call upon mujahids from across the world to liberate Makkah with him?
Also, if you touch anything owned by the Prophet SAW or rthe sahaba, we will use force, we will punish you, we will stop you even if you were the decendant of teh Prophet and could prove it

you cant claim something belong to others. Makkah is our personal property. you are welcome to come for hajj or Umrah, other than that neither you nor anyone els can dictate on us what do or should not.



Please save my time. you are the last one could speak in such regards.

If that was true, why did the prophet SAW call upon mujahids from across the world to liberate Makkah with him?
Also, if you touch anything owned by the Prophet SAW or rthe sahaba, we will use force, we will punish you, we will stop you even if you were the decendant of teh Prophet and could prove it

 

[474474]

Saudis destroyed Jannat ul baqi.

Don't you know this my brother?

it's still there, ive seen it.
besides, madinah is huge and doesnt have any space issues like Makkah, so hardly any developement there

 

[somebozo]

Destruction of Ka'ba

Allah knows best

The Stone has suffered desecrations and significant damage over the centuries. It is said to have been struck and smashed to pieces by a stone fired from a catapult during the Umayyad siege of Mecca in 756. The fragments were rejoined by 'Abd Allah ibn Zubayr using a silver ligament.[12] In January 930 it was stolen by the Qarmatians, who carried the Black Stone away to their base in Hajar (modern Bahrain). According to Ottoman historian Qutb al-Din, writing in 1857, Qarmatian leader Abu Tahir al-Qarmati set the Black Stone up in his own mosque, the Masjid al-Dirar, with the intention of redirecting the Hajj away from Mecca. However, this failed, and pilgrims continued to venerate the spot where the Black Stone had been.

According to historian Al-Juwayni, the Stone was returned twenty-three years later, in 952. The Qarmatians held the Black Stone for ransom, and forced the Abbasids to pay a huge sum for its return. It was wrapped in a sack and thrown into the Friday Mosque of Kufa, accompanied by a note saying "By command we took it, and by command we have brought it back." Its abduction and removal caused further damage, breaking the stone into seven pieces.[9][14][15] Its abductor, Abu Tahir, is said to have met a terrible fate; according to Qutb al-Din, "the ****** Abu Tahir was afflicted with a gangrenous sore, his flesh was eaten away by worms, and he died a most terrible death."

In the 11th century, a man allegedly sent by the Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah attempted to smash the Black Stone, but was killed on the spot, having caused only slight damage.[13] In 1674, according to Johann Ludwig Burckhardt, someone smeared the Black Stone with excrement so that "every one who kissed it retired with a sullied beard". The Shi'ite Persians were suspected of being responsible and were the target of curses from other Muslims for centuries afterwards, though explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton doubted that they were the culprits; he attributed the act to "some Jew or Greek, who risked his life to gratify a furious bigotry."[16]

 

[shelly]

is prophet mohds grave still there.. if so whats the proof its still his.
and can we use it to do dna test to see the so called descendents are his tru descendents?

 

[shelly]

Makkah may be your personal property, but Masjid-e-Haram is not.

anything inside saudi arabia is not claimable by anyone else

 

[vsdoc]

Thanks for the photos guys.

For some reason I till today always thought this was the black rock/stone/monolith people used to talk about ....

 

[iranigirl2]

We don't have power. The only major news station talking about this is PressTV.

 

[iranigirl2]

Don't stop there. Why does speaking out have no effect?

Saudi Arabia has alot of Money and power. They control the Islamic Media ,or have alot of influence. So there is point of speaking out, your voice will never get out. just critizing them,might get you blown up in some countries.

Actually many do worship graves. If you go to a saint's tomb and ask the saint for whatever then this is considered worship. Most twelver shias and some sufis do that our of ignorance. Why isn't anyone outraged about these either???????





What is this imaginary religious structure you speak of?

Please leave Shia and Sufi out of this discussion.All the Sufi shrine are destroyed in libya and Tunis, thanks to ignorace of SOME PEOPLE similary to you.
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2012/08/201282665348545366.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/w...sts-vandalize-sufi-shrines-with-impunity.html

 

[Don Jaguar]

is prophet mohds grave still there.. if so whats the proof its still his.
and can we use it to do dna test to see the so called descendents are his tru descendents?

I was not known that indians are completely unaware of islam.

 

[Don Jaguar]

Correction-

the shrines were demolished- the graves are still there-

^^ does this grave yard looks destroyed to you?- infact i call it a well maintained one-

btw i dont undrstand the fixation of some muslims with the Qabers-
They are the resting place of the dead- let them rest in peace-

Yes it looks completely destroyed.

Jannat ul baqi before destruction.

Jannat ul baqi after destruction.

 

[Arabian Knight]

The last picture is what graves SHOULD look like. This how all the sahabah ( whom graves are seen in the picture ) were buried at the time. Building domes and structures on graves is an innovation in religion (Bid'a) that creeped to muslims through lack of understanding of the true Islam and from contact with non-arab converts who brought a lot of their cultural practices and beliefs to islam after the great conquests of Persia and central Asia. I disagree with my government on a lot of issues, but this is actually one of the things that I agree with them on.

 

[JonAsad]

Jannat ul baqi after destruction.

thats what i call how a proper grave should be like-

btw are you more concerned about the shrines or the graves?- because i see a lot of graves- and only their destruction will mean that Jannat ul Baqi is destroyed- the shrines are useless anyway- it will not stop the dead persons from "Azaab e Qabr"-

 

[Don Jaguar]

The last picture is what graves SHOULD look like. This how all the sahabah ( whom graves are seen in the picture ) were buried at the time. Building domes and structures on graves is an innovation in religion (Bid'a) that creeped to muslims through lack of understanding of the true Islam and from contact with non-arab converts who brought a lot of their cultural practices and beliefs to islam after the great conquests of Persia and central Asia. I disagree with my government on a lot of issues, but this is actually one of the things that I agree with them on.

Astaghfirullah.

How does making a shrine become worshiping them?

All this destroying shrine stuff came from abbasids.

 

[Solomon2]

The last picture is what graves SHOULD look like. This how all the sahabah ( whom graves are seen in the picture ) were buried at the time. Building domes and structures on graves is an innovation in religion (Bid'a) that creeped to muslims through lack of understanding of the true Islam and from contact with non-arab converts who brought a lot of their cultural practices and beliefs to islam after the great conquests of Persia and central Asia. I disagree with my government on a lot of issues, but this is actually one of the things that I agree with them on.

Aren't innovations that aren't forbidden permitted?