Why do Pakistanis love Kashmir?

[singh sahab]

Ask your Indian side why they went there to that hell hole in the first place?

Pakistan permitted several mountaineering expeditions to climb the peaks in the Siachen region from the Pakistani side, perhaps in an attempt to reinforce their claim on the area as these expeditions received permits obtained from the Government of Pakistan and in many cases a liaison officer from the Pakistan army accompanied the teams

In 1983, Pakistani generals decided to stake their claim through troop deployments to the Siachen glacier. After analysing the Indian Army's mountaineering expeditions, they feared that India might capture key ridges and passes near the glacier, and decided to send their own troops first. Islamabad ordered Arctic-weather gear from a London supplier, unaware that the same supplier provided outfits to the Indians. The Indians were informed about this development and initiated their own plan, providing them with a head start.

Use Wikipedia sometimes. Or Any other credible source of knowledge according to you.

 

[I.R.A]

So after all that ranting and trolling, you circle around and come back on topic. Good, that's good. I like that.

Yeah it was necessary to make you realise something. 12 baj gay kya?

We don't care how much you support Kashmiri

And we don't care whether you care about our care or not, just let this Afghan issue subside we will support Kashmiri brethren with both hands. Last decade you enjoyed a lot cause we were occupied, but now with in a year or two Afghanistan will see some peace and we will make sure Kashmiris see some peace too

We have IA punching holes through their heads, We are facing some causalities in the process, but that's the price one has to pay for having a neighbor like You in particular.

Hmmmm expect some more in coming years.

You did not get anything substantial in Kashmir after '48. And you never will get anything substantial. In the process you lost half of your country and will lose more if needed.
So, you can dream all about slicing India by thousand cuts, But like i said, you can only DREAM.

We got our piece of land from Hindustan in 1947 the rest does not matter to us (Arabs) if you keep dividing that (your own snatched land) into further pieces. Keep doing it if it pleases you

By the way Azad Jammu and Kashmir is pretty much more than substantial and some of the Kargil posts too

We aren't complaining, you are. We are not interested in going anywhere either, no reason to.

Better if you ask your soldiers if they like that hell hole, silly stupid posting. I am sure they would most happily face bullets rather sitting at some stupid height at below freezing temperatures doing what exactly?

 

[singh sahab]

We got our piece of land from Hindustan in 1947 the rest does not matter to us (Arabs) if you keep dividing that (your own snatched land) into further pieces. Keep doing it if it pleases you

And we divided that same land of yours in two. It does please us.

And why attempted Kargil, if it was lesser important, For adventure and humiliation?

 

[Bang Galore]

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Better if you ask your soldiers if they like that hell hole, silly stupid posting. I am sure they would most happily face bullets rather sitting at some stupid height at below freezing temperatures doing what exactly?

There is an 18 month long waiting list to get to Siachen. On voluntary basis.

P.S.. The whole of Kargil-Dras sector is now manned throughout the year thanks to Musharraf, the weather there is as bad as Siachen. No one cares that much, Indian soldiers are fabulously equipped these days to handle the weather. Altitude related casualties (other than avalanches etc which can happen anywhere in the Himalayas) has dropped down to zero.

 

[I.R.A]

There is an 18 month long waiting list to get to Siachen. On voluntary basis.

P.S.. The whole of Kargil-Dras sector is now manned throughout the year thanks to Musharraf, the weather there is as bad as Siachen. No one cares that much, Indian soldiers are fabulously equipped these days to handle the weather. Altitude related casualties (other than avalanches etc which can happen anywhere in the Himalayas) has dropped down to zero.

You sure? I once saw an Indian Tea Company Ad, that had all different story to tell.................. and ads are mostly created on lines to attract a large customer base. (I would have posted video but sorry cannot do it, the theme was three young army officers waiting at home of their CO for their posting news, and then something to do with Tea and one of those officers gets posted to an area like siachen as a punishment just because of his comments)

 

[Bang Galore]

You sure? I once saw an Indian Tea Company Ad, that had all different story to tell.................. and ads are mostly created on lines to attract a large customer base. (I would have posted video but sorry cannot do it, the theme was three young army officers waiting at home of their CO for their posting news, and then something to do with Tea and one of those officers gets posted to an area like siachen as a punishment just because of his comments)

That's a TV ad, meant to add some humour. The facts are as I said, it is now seen as a challenge to undertake a tour of Siachen.

 

[singh sahab]

That's a TV ad, meant to add some humour. The facts are as I said, it is now seen as a challenge to undertake a tour of Siachen.

The guy's views and understanding of real world is based on fading childhood memory of TV ads, which he could not see in last years because obviously YouTube is banned there.

 

[I.R.A]

And we divided that same land of yours in two. It does please us.

You did what exactly? I bet you if Russia was not at your support to make it easy for you, you would not have done a shit forget dividing .......... and stop taking full credit to yourself for it .

And why attempted Kargil, if it was lesser important, For adventure and humiliation?

Ask your Army personnel for a fair feedback on that. It was mismanaged by our side no doubt about that but it did send shock waves to your establishment making them going Whaaaat.

The guy's views and understanding of real world is based on fading childhood memory of TV ads, which he could not see in last years because obviously YouTube is banned there.

You want me to switch my tone again boy?????

 

[singh sahab]

You did what exactly? I bet you if Russia was not at your support to make it easy for you, you would not have done a shit forget dividing .......... and stop taking full credit to yourself for it .



Ask your Army personnel for a fair feedback on that. It was mismanaged by our side no doubt about that but it did send shock waves to your establishment making them going Whaaaat.

You've got to be kidding me. What did the Russians do? Did they take part in any battle? No.

They were there just to stop "Universal donor of Pakistan" - USA and "Deeper than ocean friend" - China, which they managed to do brilliantly in addition to stopping UK as well. You had US, UK, China on your side and we had only Russians and you still managed to F**k things up . Other parties were there just as mute spectator. Russia just made sure that no other party was involved. No country except India and Pakistan fought that war. And India alone divided Pakistan in 2. Your piece of land which you so proudly claim to have parted in '47.

And the Kargil blunder which you so proudly claim, Was maybe a shock for India because we did not expect backstabbing from Pakistan after Lahore Bus service, But it was utter humiliation for Pakistan. Pakistan did not just abandoned their troops, lost the battle badly, they even denied accepting them as soldiers of Pakistan. You think that was a victory for you? What kind of establishment denies accepting dead bodies of it's soldiers? That was utter humiliation. Think about your soldiers who so proudly went to capture those bunkers and later got no help and even denied soil of the land for which they died. You claim that as a victory, do you?

You want me to switch my tone again boy?????

Why? Can't you just debate rationally? Why do you have to switch your tone? Why so serious dude?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

• The LoC cannot be made an international border since Pakistan occupied a large chunk of Indian territory which they call Azad Kashmir.
  
• India defeated and divided Pakistan in 1971 and will do so again if Pakistan tries anything with Kashmir
• Kashmir is Pakistani kin being Muslims and remains the jugular vein of Pakistan's pride
• Kashmir is Muslim majority and must be given to Pakistan
• Musharraf came up with a solution to Kashmir but couldn't be trusted hence the LoC was never made the border
• The Pakistani army is corrupt and uses Kashmir as a deflection tactic to divert attention from its activities
• The Pakistani army isn't corrupt and is fighting a holy war with India over Kashmir

The above points are arguments which are tirelessly put forward again and again on this forum ever since I've been a member here (2009). FFS, please bring in something new. Might I suggest a new topic...."Return Bangladesh to Pakistan and Pakistan will give India the entire Kashmir" ?

 

[I.R.A]

You've got to be kidding me. What did the Russians do? Did they take part in any battle? No.

Whaaaaaaat Oh God no doubt why you are so deluded. Aray koi to smjao yar issay. Sikhaa Russians did a great deal in bringing Mukti Bahini to what it turned out to be and making it a real threat. You come into picture way after happening of lots of events. Don't come unprepared next time. Do some research this way you are wasting my time and energy.

They were there just to stop "Universal donor of Pakistan" - USA and "Deeper than ocean friend" - China, which they managed to do brilliantly in addition to stopping UK as well. You had US, UK, China on your side and we had only Russians and you still managed to F**k things up . Other parties were there just as mute spectator. Russia just made sure that no other party was involved. No country except India and Pakistan fought that war. And India alone divided Pakistan in 2. Your piece of land which you so proudly claim to have parted in '47.

All that is what happened latter.

And the Kargil blunder which you so proudly claim, Was maybe a shock for India because we did not expect backstabbing from Pakistan after Lahore Bus service, But it was utter humiliation for Pakistan. Pakistan did not just abandoned their troops, lost the battle badly, they even denied accepting them as soldiers of Pakistan. You think that was a victory for you? What kind of establishment denies accepting dead bodies of it's soldiers? That was utter humiliation. Think about your soldiers who so proudly went to capture those bunkers and later got no help and even denied soil of the land for which they died. You claim that as a victory, do you?

Captain Sher Khan and Lalak Jan Shaheed were given the highest military gallantry award (Nishan E Haider) for their bravery and courage shown in Kargil. And you say we disowned them.

Why? Can't you just debate rationally? Why do you have to switch your tone? Why so serious dude?

Because you act like a Sikh and I have to go down to your level to reply. And that is not pleasant at all

 

[Dem!god]

install EVMs and enjoy, moreover connect the EVMs to a printer which will print the voted options and will be dropped in the box... if one fraud comes out, you can count other.
this practice will soon be there in india

 

[Nilesh Singh]

We have 10s of millions of assault weapons just lying around. I'm sure our Punjabi Sikh brothers would love to use them for avenging their Gurdwara and to take back their land from Hindu Rashtra which BJP seeks to establish.

We will arm Kashmiris when we want, as much as we want for as long as you occupy and supress them. They are our blood, our kin our people. They have the RIGHT to fight the Hindu elite's occupation.

You already have done your best in exporting terrorism in Afghanistan and Balochistan. Its not working so well is it!

Reading such post from a mod is just sad ................it seems sir you are posting terrorist recruitment. If any body else would have posted i would ask MOD to ban him but what we i am going to say to you , maybe you can ban yourself for the outregious post you are posting on this thread.

 

[singh sahab]

Whaaaaaaat Oh God no doubt why you are so deluded. Aray koi to smjao yar issay. Sikhaa Russians did a great deal in bringing Mukti Bahini to what it turned out to be and making it a real threat. You come into picture way after happening of lots of events. Don't come unprepared next time. Do some research this way you are wasting my time and energy.

I don't understand it, You are jumping here & there and continuously changing topic. If you are talking about logistic support and moral support, You had same from US, UK and China. And that does not make any sense, Because if we had help, you had too. So your effort to downplay your loss in disguise of Russian help to India does not stand in the discussion. Or is it that you are saying India had no role behind Mukti Bahini?

and please quote any report or proof in support of your claim that "Russians did a great deal in bringing Mukti Bahini to what it turned out to be and making it a real threat. You come into picture way after happening of lots of events".

Do not just jump to making assumptions.

All that is what happened latter.

It happened indeed, And you can not change the history.

Captain Sher Khan and Lalak Jan Shaheed were given the highest military gallantry award (Nishan E Haider) for their bravery and courage shown in Kargil. And you say we disowned them.

Do i really need to quote the reports of disowning soldiers?

Because you act like a Sikh and I have to go down to your level to reply. And that is not pleasant at all

That is just genius. After losing argument and temper, what you can really hold on to is religion, that too with hatred. Now tell me when did i ever lose my temper, or what is my level to which you are referring? And why is it that you have to bring religion into the discussion, did you find me doing the same? That my dear is a sign of frustration.

 

[Nilesh Singh]

No doubt khoon ka badla khoon, Indians will pay for their transgressions.

Waiting gladly sir...............East Pakistan lost in 1971 and Baluchistan lost in.....(you can put the year when you feel like to take on us)

@Norwegian where are you mate come on this thread both sides Key board warrior are going for each other even think tank and MODS are also deep knee in shit talk.