Why China needs to listen to Lee Kuan Yew

[Aepsilons]

Lee Kuan Yew isn't anti CPC. If he were anti-China, he would have sided towards Taiwan.

He has to watch what he says. The future in Asia is linked to Chinese Ascendancy. If you want to thrive, its important to have a working relationship with Beijing. Even Taiwan, which has ideological odds with the Mainland, is more linked to China Mainland that the rest. It's the irony of it all, right? lol.

Singapore's success is dependent on a thriving relationship with China. Period.

 

[somsak]

He has to watch what he says. The future in Asia is linked to Chinese Ascendancy. If you want to thrive, its important to have a working relationship with Beijing. Even Taiwan, which has ideological odds with the Mainland, is more linked to China Mainland that the rest. It's the irony of it all, right? lol.

Singapore's success is dependent on a thriving relationship with China. Period.

I think SG success has to do with her position being at world important strait of Malacca, and the oil route. Singapore success is the success of middle man. The middle man success is due to 2 kinds of relation. 1. Relation to Suppliers, 2. Relation to customer. Suppliers of industrial good from western world (in the past), and Japan, and now China, Suppliers of agriculture industrial good (for example Palm Oil, rubbers) from S.E.A, Customers are the reverse of supplier lists. SG acts as the door for western companies to SEA. You can see many western banks locate at SG.
In short, SG is a trade hub, and SGreans are middlemen. SG can be role model for a city. SG cannot be a role model for a large country, since large countries are producers and consumers. However, many good thing in SG should be learn.

 

[moyandashu]

I think SG success has to do with her position being at world important strait of Malacca, and the oil route. Singapore success is the success of middle man. The middle man success is due to 2 kinds of relation. 1. Relation to Suppliers, 2. Relation to customer. Suppliers of industrial good from western world (in the past), and Japan, and now China, Suppliers of agriculture industrial good (for example Palm Oil, rubbers) from S.E.A, Customers are the reverse of supplier lists. SG acts as the door for western companies to SEA. You can see many western banks locate at SG.
In short, SG is a trade hub, and SGreans are middlemen. SG can be role model for a city. SG cannot be a role model for a large country, since large countries are producers and consumers. However, many good thing in SG should be learn.

Agree,it's position contribute to it's success.
Also highly efficient government stable society, successful education system ,high quality skilled workers.... Difference race live peacefully in a Chinese dominated society.many factor make them succeed

 

[Nan Yang]

Some rumor said he is one of the descendant from Lanfang Republic. The Hakka oversea chinese half country half mining company in Indonesia. Is that true?

I read an article in the Chinese History Forum about this Chinese Kingdom in Borneo Island. The Kingdom was invaded by the Dutch and the survivals fled to Sumatra and then ended in Singapore. Lee Kuan Yew was one of the descendants.

 

[Aepsilons]

Actually most people talk about the Qin state only after Qin Shih Huang unified All under Heaven and then lasted only 27 years. But the state of Qin goes back far longer. The State of Qin has a history of over 800 years. Qin Shi Huang was only one of the Kings of Qin and inherited an already strong state and there were many other leaders of Qin that contributed to the rise of the State of Qin.

State of Qin was actually founded by a horse breeder Feizi in 9 century BC in the West of Zhou Empire. It was land nobody wanted because it was the most underdevelop and backward part of the Empire and was constantly invaded by the Xirong babarians.

But its location was a natural fortress protected by mountains and large area of grassland very suitable for horse breeding. By awarding this land to the horse breeder, the Emperor solved two problems. How to reward him and how to protect its western borders.

Over the hundreds of years, under very capable and competent Government, this under developed state of Qin became, by the Warring State period, one of the strongest.

If you study the rise of Qin, you will be shocked that some of its policy that were implemented over 2 thousands years ago, will sound very familiar today.

Modern political ideologies always have vestiges of old ideologies from the past. For one example, the concept of 法家 or Legalism , tho over 2,000 years old, can be seen in the way some leaders of the past behaved and functioned. Example would be seen in Park Chung Hee's South Korea, Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore and to an extent Jiang Jieshi's Taiwan.

I think SG success has to do with her position being at world important strait of Malacca, and the oil route. Singapore success is the success of middle man. The middle man success is due to 2 kinds of relation. 1. Relation to Suppliers, 2. Relation to customer. Suppliers of industrial good from western world (in the past), and Japan, and now China, Suppliers of agriculture industrial good (for example Palm Oil, rubbers) from S.E.A, Customers are the reverse of supplier lists. SG acts as the door for western companies to SEA. You can see many western banks locate at SG.
In short, SG is a trade hub, and SGreans are middlemen. SG can be role model for a city. SG cannot be a role model for a large country, since large countries are producers and consumers. However, many good thing in SG should be learn.

Very well said, @somsak .

 

[Pangu]

Not many people know that SG has the world's 7th largest oil refinery, even bigger than Saudi Arabia's Ras Tanura Refinery (9th).

ExxonMobil's Singapore Refinery
The ExxonMobil Singapore refinery is the seventh largest refinery in the world. The refinery has a processing capacity of about 592,000bpd.

It has two operating sites located at Jurong on the mainland and Pulau Ayer Chawan (PAC) on Jurong Island in Singapore. The Jurong mainland site has a processing capacity of 302,000bpd, whereas the PAC site has 290,000bpd of capacity.

The refinery at the Jurong site became operational in 1966 and the one at the Pulau Ayer Chawan started operations in 1970. The latest expansion at the refinery was completed in December 2012 adding 2.6 million tonnes of new finished product capacity in a year.

The refinery includes downstream units including a steam cracker ethylene complex and two downstream plants. It also includes a chemical plant with two world-scale steam crackers, as well as an aromatics plant.

 

[NarThoD]

I read an article in the Chinese History Forum about this Chinese Kingdom in Borneo Island. The Kingdom was invaded by the Dutch and the survivals fled to Sumatra and then ended in Singapore. Lee Kuan Yew was one of the descendants.

It's Srivijaya Kingdom, the Srivijayans has long history with the Chinese dynasties and then Majapahit conquer them. the capital is in Palembang, where the chinese trader(probably from Tang dynasty) settle in there and marrying local women.If you ever go to Palembang, then you'll find local Palembang people has very close apperance with Chinese.

 

[Nan Yang]

Modern political ideologies always have vestiges of old ideologies from the past. For one example, the concept of 法家 or Legalism , tho over 2,000 years old, can be seen in the way some leaders of the past behaved and functioned. Example would be seen in Park Chung Hee's South Korea, Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore and to an extent Jiang Jieshi's Taiwan.

And that 法家 came from the State of QIN.

 

[Jlaw]

Qin good for unifying China. However it didn't last long. If you have draconian law that punishes people, nobody will speak to you. All you will have are mindless underlings that cannot think. It will be sort of North Korea.

Qin was misunderstood. Legalism was great but Qin shihuang ruthlessness killed the empire. You can't compare north Korea to Qin. Qin military was very advanced.

 

[Azizam]

I think SG success has to do with her position being at world important strait of Malacca, and the oil route. Singapore success is the success of middle man. The middle man success is due to 2 kinds of relation. 1. Relation to Suppliers, 2. Relation to customer. Suppliers of industrial good from western world (in the past), and Japan, and now China, Suppliers of agriculture industrial good (for example Palm Oil, rubbers) from S.E.A, Customers are the reverse of supplier lists. SG acts as the door for western companies to SEA. You can see many western banks locate at SG.
In short, SG is a trade hub, and SGreans are middlemen. SG can be role model for a city. SG cannot be a role model for a large country, since large countries are producers and consumers. However, many good thing in SG should be learn.

You are right but regardless of what resources a country has, without good leadership and people, a country can never succeed but on the other hand without much resources, a wise leadership can lead it to be very prosperous. I think Japan is a very good example of a country that has very little natural resources and it success derives from its amazing people and wise leadership.

If you look at the history, prior to 1970s, it was Sri Lanka that was the regional hub and it was Colombo harbour that occupied the place of Singaporean harbour. Now take a look at where Singapore is and where Sri Lanka is. Sri Lanka stands as a testimony of how empty headed leaders and people can waste a country with so much potential. Even Lee Kuan Yew himself said it although I don't agree with few things he has said regarding Sri Lanka.

Alas it did not work out. During my visits over the years, I watched
a promising country go to waste.

Lee Kuan Yew was one of the smartest leaders that the world ever seen. When he took charge of Singapore, it was racially divided and on the verge of collapse but he turned it into one of the most richest countries in just 30 years. He virtually created a society that judges individuals based on performance. If you read his ideas, you will realise that he is insanely insightful on a lot of topics that he talked about. The most outstanding quality that I have seen from him is that he was always ahead of his time. He foresaw the potential issues and combated them before them even taking place. IMO, you have to give full credits to him for the success of Singapore. Without him Singapore wouldn't be what it is today.

 

[Nan Yang]

If you look at the history, prior to 1970s, it was Sri Lanka that was the regional hub and it was Colombo harbour that occupied the place of Singaporean harbour. Now take a look at where Singapore is and where Sri Lanka is. Sri Lanka stands as a testimony of how empty headed leaders and people can waste a country with so much potential. Even Lee Kuan Yew himself said it although I don't agree with few things he has said regarding Sri Lanka.

Yes, I remember Sri Lanka was a model developing country in the 70's. But to be fair Sri Lanka development was disrupted by war with the separatists Tamil Tigers.

 

[Established_1965]

Lee is a western puppet nothing more.

Mr.LKY had the courage to take on USA directly in 60's. China can't even do that now!

 

[Shotgunner51]

Lee Kuan Yew was one of the smartest leaders that the world ever seen. When he took charge of Singapore, it was racially divided and on the verge of collapse but he turned it into one of the most richest countries in just 30 years.

Well said.

17.1% of population are millionaires, #1 richest country on this regard, second to none.

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[Established_1965]

To all LKY Haters. This is what Mr.LKY said to USA fortifying to bribe him

"The Americans should know the character of the men they are dealing with in Singapore and not get themselves further dragged into calumny. They are not dealing with Ngo Dinh Diem or Syngman Rhee. You do not buy and sell this government. (Quoted in a New York Times article reporting the CIA's attempt to bribe him with $3.3 million in 1965)"

 

[Azizam]

Well said.

17.1% of population are millionaires, #1 richest country on this regard, second to none.

Top 10 Weathiest Nations of the World

He didn't just improve the economy. He improved racial relations, military, work ethics of people etc out of a collection of poor villages. People have to give credit where it's due. He was extraordinary because he genuinely cared about the country.

Mr Lee walked slowly along the bank of the Singapore River, Mr Heng wrote, "the way he and Mrs Lee sometimes did when she was still alive".

Mr Heng, who worked with Mr Lee as his Principal Private Secretary (PPS) between 1997 and 2000, added: "It was late in the night and Mr Lee was in mourning. His security team hastened to give a bereaved husband a quiet moment to himself."

But even while grieving for the loss of his soulmate, Mr Lee did not put aside his work.

Mr Heng said Mr Lee gestured for one of his officers to him. Mr Lee then pointed out some trash floating on the river and told him to take a picture of it.

"I'll tell my PPS what to do about it tomorrow," he told the officer.

Find out where Mr Lee went after attending his wife's wake | The New Paper

He cared about his country as his personal house.

To all LKY Haters. This is what Mr.LKY said to USA fortifying to bribe him

"The Americans should know the character of the men they are dealing with in Singapore and not get themselves further dragged into calumny. They are not dealing with Ngo Dinh Diem or Syngman Rhee. You do not buy and sell this government. (Quoted in a New York Times article reporting the CIA's attempt to bribe him with $3.3 million in 1965)"

They are spoilt brats who don't know what's it like to be poor