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Why Arabs lost all its wars to Israel despite outnumbering Israel in weapons and manpower?

If you people really want to know about the war, read the Ramadan war by gen. Gamasy. He was the Egyptian chief of operations -
Did you read his book? Can you point to where Gamasy wrote objectively about his own failures?
 
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"Decisively lost" will be a more apt choice of words I think! :confused:
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“When we celebrate the birthday of Mohammad next, not only Sinai but Jerusalem too will be liberated, and the Israelis reduced to the abasement and submissiveness decreed for them” - President Anwar Sadat, 1972.

[Muslim dictators, from left to right: Hafiz el-Assad, doomed to be President-for-life of a decrepit, socialist, war-depressed Syria; Idi Amin of Uganda, whose downfall began when the Israeli military raided his country to successfully rescue Jewish hostages from terrorists he harbored; Sadat, who skillfully re-marketed his failed war as a battle to regain honor; and Muammar Qadafi of Libya, whose antisemitic campaign was so powerful that it turned into a weapon his own people used against him.]
 
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I think it is everything to do with the Isreali spirit and will being stronger and feeling nobler than the Arabs.
Add to that the fact , which is still true today, the Israelis are smarter and more innovative than almost all other races, especially the Arabs. Look at how many innovations and inventions Israelis accomplished and accomplish. And it cannot be denied that Israelis learnt and improved structural organization from Americans as well.
I believe they are smart yes....so we prepare our self well for them....but if you feel inferior to other people don't generalize that thing as you are talking about EGYPT.

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“When we celebrate the birthday of Mohammad next, not only Sinai but Jerusalem too will be liberated, and the Israelis reduced to the abasement and submissiveness decreed for them” - President Anwar Sadat, 1972.

[Muslim dictators, from left to right: Hafiz el-Assad, doomed to be President-for-life of a decrepit, socialist, war-depressed Syria; Idi Amin of Uganda, whose downfall began when the Israeli military raided his country to successfully rescue Jewish hostages from terrorists he harbored; Sadat, who skillfully re-marketed his failed war as a battle to regain honor; and Muammar Qadafi of Libya, whose antisemitic campaign was so powerful that it turned into a weapon his own people used against him.]
One year later ..... Screams are heard on Sinai and then other sound heard which is USA plans transferring weapons to save Israel.
 
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I think it is everything to do with the Isreali spirit and will being stronger and feeling nobler than the Arabs.
Add to that the fact , which is still true today, the Israelis are smarter and more innovative than almost all other races, especially the Arabs. Look at how many innovations and inventions Israelis accomplished and accomplish. And it cannot be denied that Israelis learnt and improved structural organization from Americans as well.


Impact of Islamic civilization on European civilization in the field of sciences

Introduction

The impact of Muslims on the West in the field of sciences, including medicine, pharmacology, mathematics, chemistry, optics, geography, astronomy, and others was one of the best manifestations of the influence on European civilization. Many impartial Westerners admitted that Muslims continued to be the teachers of Europe for no less than 600 years.



Translation of Muslim scientists’ books
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One of the manifestations of this impact was the translation of the books written by Muslim scientists more than once and adopting them as basic sources and principal reference books for many centuries for teaching at Western universities. For example, when medicine reached its peak at the hands of Muslims, the European church was preventing treatment because disease was (a punishment from Allah)! They learned about medicine and treatment afterwards through the translation of the books written by Ibn Sina, Al-Razi, and others. This included, but was not limited to, the book Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb (The law of medicine) by Ibn Sina in the 12th century. The book was published several times and was the basis for studies at French and Italian universities![1]

The UNESCO newsletter mentioned in 1980 that the book Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb by Ibn Sina continued to be taught at the University of Brussels until 1909. The article cited a comment by the writer Osler[2] in which he said: The book Al-Qanun continued to be a sole reference in medicine for a period longer than any other book. It was published 15 times in the last 30 years of the 15th century.

Osler added: “Ibn Sina enabled Western scientists to embark upon a scientific revolution in the field of medicine, which indeed started in the 13th century and reached its principal stage in the 17th century.[3]

Just like Al-Qanun, the book (Al-Hawi) and (Al-Mansuri) by Al-Razi were translated at the end of the 13th century. In recognition of his contributions, the US Princeton University called its biggest wing Al-Razi. Also, the research work done by Abu Al-Rayhan Al-Bayruni on qualitative weight had such an important impact on Western civilization. Al-Khazini was a scientific lead for Torricelli in doing research on the weight and condensation of air and the pressure it causes. Al-Khazini invented a barometer to weigh matter in the air and in water which Europe had continued to use up till the middle ages. Europe also used the accurate scales of Muslims in the field of qualitative weight, the weight of air, lifting apparatuses, and gravitation.

Al-Khazini’s book Mizan al-Hikmah (Scale of Wisdom) benefited Western scholars to a great extent as it was translated from Arabic into many various languages. Books by Jabir Ibn Hayyan, Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haytham, and Al-Khawarizmi were also translated and continued to be a reference for Europe for centuries!

The prominent Orientalist Sedillot says: If we look at what the Latins had copied from the Arabs in the beginning, we will find that Gerbert who later became Pope Sylvester II brought to us, between (359 A.H / 970 A.D) and (369 A.H / 980 A.D), the mathematical sciences he studied in Andalusia. Moreover, the British author O'Hallard toured Andalusia and Egypt, for some time between (493 A.H / 1100 A.D) and (522 A.H/1128 A.D) and translated from Arabic "Al-Arkan" by Euclid, which had been unknown to the West.

Platon de Tivoli translated from Arabic Al-Ukar by Theodosius. Rudolf Brugie translated from Arabic Ptolemy's book (Geography of the inhabited Earth). Leonard of Pisa wrote in about (596 A.H/1200 A.D) a treatise on Algebra which he had picked up from his Arab teachers. Johannes Campanus translated Euclid’s book from Arabic and provided good explanation in the 13th century.

In addition, Polish Witelo drew upon Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haitham's book Al-Basariyat "Optics” in that century. Gerard of Cremona propagated the real astronomical science in that century as well through his translation of Ptolemy's Almagest and (Al-Sharh) by Jabir…etc. In (648A.H / 1250 A.D), Alfonso X of Castile ordered the publication of astronomical almanac which were named for him. Roger I encouraged the study of Arabic sciences in Sicily, particularly the book by Al-Idrissi. Emperor Frederick II was no less keen on encouraging the study of the Arab sciences and arts. The sons of Ibn Rushd stayed at the court of that emperor and taught him the natural history of plants and animals.[4] It is clear from Sedillot’s statement that Muslims not only transferred their sciences to Europeans but also strongly helped Europeans to know the history of their Greek ancestors who were completely isolated from them. As such, the impact was manifested in all types and fields of sciences.



Impact of Islamic industries in Europe
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With regard to Islamic industries in Europe, which were connected with several sciences, there was the paper industry which Muslims spread across the world at the time. But for that industry, sciences would not have developed, writing would not have flourished, and Europe would not have been civilized.

Muslims transported a number of Chinese prisoners to Samarqand around the mid 8th Gregorian century. Among them were those who were good at paper industry. It was at their hands that the paper industry appeared and flourished in Samarqand. Improvements were then introduced into it, as linen and cotton were the raw material of this industry. Soft paper, the best type of paper, appeared. As papyrus paper was expensive, there was a high demand for the new paper to the extent that the Abbasid Caliph Al-Mansur, who was known for his saving, ordered the departments of his state not to use the papyrus paper and use only the ordinary paper for its cheap prices.[5]


Paper factories were set up in Baghdad in the era of Al-Rashid, then in Damascus and Tripoli, and then in Palestine and Egypt. The paper industry moved to Morocco and from there to Sicily and Andalusia until the West knew this industry, which was in fact one of the pillars of culture and spiritual life. Muslims, therefore, marked the start of a new era when science was no longer the monopoly of a certain group of people. It even became, as Sigrid Hunke said, available to everyone and an invitation for all minds to work and think.[6]


Tourists, visitors, pilgrims, traders, and students used to come from their countries in Europe to Barcelona and Valencia, where soft paper was produced, to return, as Al-Idrissi mentioned, carrying quantities of this paper which had no match in the world whatsoever. [7]

Sigrid Hunke says: The building of mills (paper mills) was an Arab specialization achieved by the Arabs themselves who gave Europe all kinds of water and air mills.[8]

Apart from the paper industry, there was also the magnetic needle (compass) which for some Europeans was invented by the Italian Flavio Gioia. In this regard, Sigrid replies by saying that that Italian “had known this device through (Muslim) Arabs”.[9]

“Researchers have disagreed as to whether the Arabs were the first to use the compass or copied it from China… Sedillot denies that the Chinese had used the compass although until 1850 A.D they still had the belief that the south pole of the earth was a raging fire. He emphasizes that the (Muslim) Arabs were the first to use it. He was supported by Sarton who had the same opinion. Everyone emphasizes that the Arabs had used it, and that Europe learned about the compass through the Arabs.”[10]

There is no question on the impact of this compass on the life of Europeans in general.

Impact of Islamic civilization on European civilization in the field of sciences

To stay on topic read the paper in post # 131
 
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Hahah .. yeah right!
Even with the added links!
Don't let me even start with Henry Kissinger's role during the conflict



It seems that this photo hurt your feeling!
Actually there are many pictures you know that ..
And everyone knows that Most of IAF victoris over EAF especially in 1967 happened while Egyptian aricrafts were on ground!
5/6/1967 was our "peral harbour in ww2"!
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What matters what happened next ..
It was quiet an achievments that EAF went through a massive construction program to build new air bases in order to increase its survivability. The EAF was the first branch of the Egyptian armed forces to achieve full combat readiness in short time.

It was quiet an achievments what EAF manged to accopmlish with low graded aircrafts vs more advanced ones
We were the ones who shot down Mirage-3 and F-4 phantom by just Mig-21

The IAF did not operate freely and did not have complete air supremacy it enjoyed during the previous conflict, the 1967 war. Egyptian MiGs were used with better efficiency than before which included the tactics and lessons learned from the 1967 war.

Do not underestimate other's accomplishments since learing from your mistakes makes you better .
It was during this war that the EAF applied the lessons it earlier learnt from the Israelis. A 32-year-old deputy MiG-21 regiment commander who has been flying since he was 15 recalls: "During the war of attrition, the Israeli air force had a favorite ambush tactic", he told Aviation Week and Space Technology. "They would penetrate with two aircraft at medium altitude where they would be quickly picked up by radar, We would scramble four or eight to attack them. But they had another dozen fighters trailing at extremely low altitude below radar coverage. As we climbed to the attack they would zoom up behind and surprise us. My regiment lost MiGs to this ambush tactic three times. But we learned the lesson and practiced the same tactics. In the final fights over Deversoir, we ambushed some Mirages the same way, and my own 'finger four' formation shot down four Mirages with the loss of one MiG.

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Israeli Mirage III shot down by Egyptian MiG-21 during October war

Ahahaha, you must be kidding me, how was Israel supported in 1967? If we were not supported in 73, Israel would have nuked you, the US only started the aid when they saw the Jericho's.

Oh, and the destroying planes on the ground part
1973? Israel didn't destroy jets on the ground- Israel lost 102 jets- the Arabs? 514
Here you go-

This source was told in Egypt Daily News
Also, I didn't deny that Israeli jets were shot down, I said that much more Egyptian and Syrian jets were downed than Israeli ones.
1973- 5 enemy aircraft down to every 1 Israeli.
 
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Did you read his book? Can you point to where Gamasy wrote objectively about his own failures?

It was a long time ago, but let me remember the salient points.

1. Six day war. After the loss of the Egyptian air force, the Egyptian c-in-c ordered a strategic withdrawal from Sinai. All the senior officers of the Egyptian army in Sinai testified that even after the loss of the air force, they could have held the line at the mitla pass. They had no doubt, and protested at the order to withdraw. The major Egyptian inquiry after the war pronounced that the defeat in Sinai was not due to the loss of the air force, but due to this order.

2. 1973 war. The aim of the operation was to 'regain Egyptian sovereignty over Sinai'. Sadat had put this, obviously, in writing. The army had asked for a further 'aim' a few days before the war, and the same written aim was stated. Israel's existence was never at stake, in fact there were no plans to occupy Israeli territory.

3. Defeat. The Egyptians knew exactly the casualties the Israelis had suffered, and they were enormous. When the Israelis crossed the canal, the Egyptians simply couldn't believe the sheer quantity of resources the Israelis threw at them. When Sadat accepted the cease fire, he did so without consulting the army. The army first heard about it on television. Sadat gave his reason for accepting the ceasefire as such: he believed that in the last ten days of the war, Egypt had in fact been fighting the US. Israel had the US's unlimited resources behind it, and continuing the war would bring Egypt into conflict with the US.

There is another book written on the war by a British army general, but I forget the name .
 
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1948: The brits killed more than 40 000 Palestinian armed men before handing the key of Jerusalem to the Usraelis (From the Book "O Jerusalem"),

1956: Suez Attak exposed, the French-Brits-Usraeli alliance against Egypt and the Arabs in general

1967: Usraeli weapons were mostly french..and British most probably free of cost, even ToT

1973: Transfer of usrael protection from old powers to the new one a.k.a USA, with same benefits , every US major weapon plus ToT..

So anyone saying that the Arabs were Fighting Usrael instead of the western colonizing powers is spreading lies.
 
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sound heard which is USA plans transferring weapons to save Israel.
Bullshit! Egypt was receiving weapons too from the Soviet Union, from Yugoslavia, en top what Lybia contributed, and what Algeria bought . The US supplying Israel was not the cause, the cause is Sadat who surrendered after his brother was shot down. that spineless sob was the cause of the debacle.

Also, I didn't deny that Israeli jets were shot down, I said that much more Egyptian and Syrian jets were downed than Israeli ones.
1973- 5 enemy aircraft down to every 1 Israeli.
Just like your Egyptian counterpart, you are full of it...You had your *** handed to you in every area, until Sadat decided to be commander in chief.
 
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Bullshit! Egypt was receiving weapons too from the Soviet Union, from Yugoslavia, en top what Lybia contributed, and what Algeria bought . The US supplying Israel was not the cause, the cause is Sadat who surrendered after his brother was shot down. that spineless sob was the cause of the debacle.


Just like your Egyptian counterpart, you are full of it...You had your *** handed to you in every area, until Sadat decided to be commander in chief.

No. Sadat addressed this point. He said that Russia's help was conditional, while the US's help was unconditional.

For example, the Egyptians wanted attack aircraft so they could attack Israel just as the Israelis were attacking Egypt pre war. They wanted the tu-22 bomber. The Russians refused, whereas the US had no hesitation in giving Israel similar weapons.

There was a fundamental political difference between Egypt and Russian aims. The Russians were afraid of being dragged into a war with the US, and wanted a peaceful settlement. For Egypt, that meant negotiating from a losers status; a peace deal would give them nothing. To get into a position of strength, they had to change the military situation. This is why Russia would give Egypt defensive weaponry, not offensive. This difference was the reason why Sadat cancelled his defense treaty with Russia before the war.

Despite the cancellation, Russia still helped Egypt during and after the war, although it had no obligation to do so. The US's help to Israel was a totally different quantum.
 
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I believe they are smart yes....so we prepare our self well for them....but if you feel inferior to other people don't generalize that thing as you are talking about EGYPT.


One year later ..... Screams are heard on Sinai and then other sound heard which is USA plans transferring weapons to save Israel.

In the past 200 years the Jews have a significantly disproportionate high number of inventions and accomplishment than almost every other single race. It is a fact.Whether that should make you feel inferior or not is entirely based on your outlook about life.

Impact of Islamic civilization on European civilization in the field of sciences

Introduction

The impact of Muslims on the West in the field of sciences, including medicine, pharmacology, mathematics, chemistry, optics, geography, astronomy, and others was one of the best manifestations of the influence on European civilization. Many impartial Westerners admitted that Muslims continued to be the teachers of Europe for no less than 600 years.



Translation of Muslim scientists’ books
6117_image003.jpg
One of the manifestations of this impact was the translation of the books written by Muslim scientists more than once and adopting them as basic sources and principal reference books for many centuries for teaching at Western universities. For example, when medicine reached its peak at the hands of Muslims, the European church was preventing treatment because disease was (a punishment from Allah)! They learned about medicine and treatment afterwards through the translation of the books written by Ibn Sina, Al-Razi, and others. This included, but was not limited to, the book Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb (The law of medicine) by Ibn Sina in the 12th century. The book was published several times and was the basis for studies at French and Italian universities![1]

The UNESCO newsletter mentioned in 1980 that the book Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb by Ibn Sina continued to be taught at the University of Brussels until 1909. The article cited a comment by the writer Osler[2] in which he said: The book Al-Qanun continued to be a sole reference in medicine for a period longer than any other book. It was published 15 times in the last 30 years of the 15th century.

Osler added: “Ibn Sina enabled Western scientists to embark upon a scientific revolution in the field of medicine, which indeed started in the 13th century and reached its principal stage in the 17th century.[3]

Just like Al-Qanun, the book (Al-Hawi) and (Al-Mansuri) by Al-Razi were translated at the end of the 13th century. In recognition of his contributions, the US Princeton University called its biggest wing Al-Razi. Also, the research work done by Abu Al-Rayhan Al-Bayruni on qualitative weight had such an important impact on Western civilization. Al-Khazini was a scientific lead for Torricelli in doing research on the weight and condensation of air and the pressure it causes. Al-Khazini invented a barometer to weigh matter in the air and in water which Europe had continued to use up till the middle ages. Europe also used the accurate scales of Muslims in the field of qualitative weight, the weight of air, lifting apparatuses, and gravitation.

Al-Khazini’s book Mizan al-Hikmah (Scale of Wisdom) benefited Western scholars to a great extent as it was translated from Arabic into many various languages. Books by Jabir Ibn Hayyan, Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haytham, and Al-Khawarizmi were also translated and continued to be a reference for Europe for centuries!

The prominent Orientalist Sedillot says: If we look at what the Latins had copied from the Arabs in the beginning, we will find that Gerbert who later became Pope Sylvester II brought to us, between (359 A.H / 970 A.D) and (369 A.H / 980 A.D), the mathematical sciences he studied in Andalusia. Moreover, the British author O'Hallard toured Andalusia and Egypt, for some time between (493 A.H / 1100 A.D) and (522 A.H/1128 A.D) and translated from Arabic "Al-Arkan" by Euclid, which had been unknown to the West.

Platon de Tivoli translated from Arabic Al-Ukar by Theodosius. Rudolf Brugie translated from Arabic Ptolemy's book (Geography of the inhabited Earth). Leonard of Pisa wrote in about (596 A.H/1200 A.D) a treatise on Algebra which he had picked up from his Arab teachers. Johannes Campanus translated Euclid’s book from Arabic and provided good explanation in the 13th century.

In addition, Polish Witelo drew upon Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haitham's book Al-Basariyat "Optics” in that century. Gerard of Cremona propagated the real astronomical science in that century as well through his translation of Ptolemy's Almagest and (Al-Sharh) by Jabir…etc. In (648A.H / 1250 A.D), Alfonso X of Castile ordered the publication of astronomical almanac which were named for him. Roger I encouraged the study of Arabic sciences in Sicily, particularly the book by Al-Idrissi. Emperor Frederick II was no less keen on encouraging the study of the Arab sciences and arts. The sons of Ibn Rushd stayed at the court of that emperor and taught him the natural history of plants and animals.[4] It is clear from Sedillot’s statement that Muslims not only transferred their sciences to Europeans but also strongly helped Europeans to know the history of their Greek ancestors who were completely isolated from them. As such, the impact was manifested in all types and fields of sciences.



Impact of Islamic industries in Europe
6117_image002.jpg
With regard to Islamic industries in Europe, which were connected with several sciences, there was the paper industry which Muslims spread across the world at the time. But for that industry, sciences would not have developed, writing would not have flourished, and Europe would not have been civilized.

Muslims transported a number of Chinese prisoners to Samarqand around the mid 8th Gregorian century. Among them were those who were good at paper industry. It was at their hands that the paper industry appeared and flourished in Samarqand. Improvements were then introduced into it, as linen and cotton were the raw material of this industry. Soft paper, the best type of paper, appeared. As papyrus paper was expensive, there was a high demand for the new paper to the extent that the Abbasid Caliph Al-Mansur, who was known for his saving, ordered the departments of his state not to use the papyrus paper and use only the ordinary paper for its cheap prices.[5]


Paper factories were set up in Baghdad in the era of Al-Rashid, then in Damascus and Tripoli, and then in Palestine and Egypt. The paper industry moved to Morocco and from there to Sicily and Andalusia until the West knew this industry, which was in fact one of the pillars of culture and spiritual life. Muslims, therefore, marked the start of a new era when science was no longer the monopoly of a certain group of people. It even became, as Sigrid Hunke said, available to everyone and an invitation for all minds to work and think.[6]


Tourists, visitors, pilgrims, traders, and students used to come from their countries in Europe to Barcelona and Valencia, where soft paper was produced, to return, as Al-Idrissi mentioned, carrying quantities of this paper which had no match in the world whatsoever. [7]

Sigrid Hunke says: The building of mills (paper mills) was an Arab specialization achieved by the Arabs themselves who gave Europe all kinds of water and air mills.[8]

Apart from the paper industry, there was also the magnetic needle (compass) which for some Europeans was invented by the Italian Flavio Gioia. In this regard, Sigrid replies by saying that that Italian “had known this device through (Muslim) Arabs”.[9]

“Researchers have disagreed as to whether the Arabs were the first to use the compass or copied it from China… Sedillot denies that the Chinese had used the compass although until 1850 A.D they still had the belief that the south pole of the earth was a raging fire. He emphasizes that the (Muslim) Arabs were the first to use it. He was supported by Sarton who had the same opinion. Everyone emphasizes that the Arabs had used it, and that Europe learned about the compass through the Arabs.”[10]

There is no question on the impact of this compass on the life of Europeans in general.

Impact of Islamic civilization on European civilization in the field of sciences

To stay on topic read the paper in post # 131

I am sure muslims have contrbuted as well but if you take the past 200 years or so the Jews have accomplished significantly more than others.

If you go back so many centuries as your posted reference does, you will then have to do the same with other races as well for comparison. But that was not my intent.
 
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In the past 200 years the Jews have a significantly disproportionate high number of inventions and accomplishment than almost every other single race. It is a fact.Whether that should make you feel inferior or not is entirely based on your outlook about life.



I am sure muslims have contrbuted as well but if you take the past 200 years or so the Jews have accomplished significantly more than others.

If you go back so many centuries as your posted reference does, you will then have to do the same with other races as well for comparison. But that was not my intent.
I am sure that was yor intent And I had very long threads on that subject, mainlty the Indus valley civilisation..
But hey buddy, "in the lat 200 years"!? Usrael was created in 1948 !!!!!1
 
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I am sure that was yor intent And I had very long threads on that subject, mainlty the Indus valley civilisation..
But hey buddy, "in the lat 200 years"!? Usrael was created in 1948 !!!!!1

Israel is a declared Jewish state so I did generalize to that. But if you prefer to be particular that's fine, just start conting from when Israel was created. The rate of success is even higher
 
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Israel is a declared Jewish state so I did generalize to that. But if you prefer to be particular that's fine, just start conting from when Israel was created. The rate of success is even higher

That is if you base the rate of success on the ToT they have received since than ..for free, plus money, plus weapons.. I am just saying things like they were in the past and are now..
 
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No. Sadat addressed this point. He said that Russia's help was conditional, while the US's help was unconditional.

For example, the Egyptians wanted attack aircraft so they could attack Israel just as the Israelis were attacking Egypt pre war. They wanted the tu-22 bomber. The Russians refused, whereas the US had no hesitation in giving Israel similar weapons.

There was a fundamental political difference between Egypt and Russian aims. The Russians were afraid of being dragged into a war with the US, and wanted a peaceful settlement. For Egypt, that meant negotiating from a losers status; a peace deal would give them nothing. To get into a position of strength, they had to change the military situation. This is why Russia would give Egypt defensive weaponry, not offensive. This difference was the reason why Sadat cancelled his defense treaty with Russia before the war.

Despite the cancellation, Russia still helped Egypt during and after the war, although it had no obligation to do so. The US's help to Israel was a totally different quantum.

Sorry? In 1967 the Egyptians DID buy a huge bomber for its time, called the Tu16, Israel had nothing close to it, the biggest bomber it had was the B17
Russia would give Egypt defensive weapons? Since when are MiGs defensive weapons? or huge tactical bombers are?
T62s and such?
 
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Sorry? In 1967 the Egyptians DID buy a huge bomber for its time, called the Tu16, Israel had nothing close to it, the biggest bomber it had was the B17
Russia would give Egypt defensive weapons? Since when are MiGs defensive weapons? or huge tactical bombers are?
T62s and such?

At that time, the Israeli air force had the capability to attack cairo at will. The Egyptians wanted to be able to attack Tel Aviv. The only soviet aircraft that could do that was the Tu-22. The Russians wouldn't give that, or anything else with that range,

The mig was a sort range interceptor.

A shell fired from a t-62, from Egypt, couldn't reach Tel Aviv.

This lack of assistance from the Soviets was the reason for the cancellation of the Egyptian/Soviet defence treaty.

I am simply stating what were the views, and reasons, of Sadat.
 
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