WHO'S KASHMIR HAPPY?

[Suriya]

Kashmiri Brahmins are outsiders some from the ancient lineage of Gandhara Pandits/Brahmins.

Do u most kashmir muslims share same surname with Kashmir Pandits including the Pandit surname? Beside that u've Muslim Dar vs Hindu Dhar, Butt Vs Hindu Bhatt and more like that.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Do u most kashmir muslims share same surname with Kashmir Pandits including the Pandit surname? Beside that u've Muslim Dar vs Hindu Dhar, Butt Vs Hindu Bhatt and more like that.

that's traditionally the case for all of northwest south asia, not just Kashmir...
it doesn't prove him wrong

 

[Great Janjua]

Do u most kashmir muslims share same surname with Kashmir Pandits including the Pandit surname? Beside that u've Muslim Dar vs Hindu Dhar, Butt Vs Hindu Bhatt and more like that.

When the King Pravaserena captured Kashmir he brought along with him Gandhara Brahmins. Brahmins larp as ethnic Kashmiris not the other way around.

 

[Suriya]

that's traditionally the case for all of northwest south asia, not just Kashmir...
it doesn't prove him wrong

When the Hunnic King Pravaserena captured Kashmir he brought along with him Gandhara Brahmins. Brahmins larp as ethnic Kashmiris not the other way around.

Are u kidding? The word kashmir come from the naame of Hindu Brahmin saint Rishi Kashyap.
The Kashmiri Pandits have been living in Kashmir since millenia, not kashmiri Muslims question their status as original kashmiris. Go ask real Kashmir Muslim from the valley.

 

[Great Janjua]

Are u kidding? The word kashmir come from the naame of Hindu Brahmin saint Rishi Kashyap.
The Kashmiri Pandits have been living in Kashmir since millenia, not kashmiri Muslims question their status as original kashmiris. Go ask real Kashmir Muslim from the valley.

Kashmiri Pandits are not same as ethnic Kashmiri some may overlap but Kashmiri Pandit genetic profile is closely related to a UP Brahmin than a Kashmiri Muslim.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Are u kidding? The word kashmir come from the naame of Hindu Brahmin saint Rishi Kashyap.
The Kashmiri Pandits have been living in Kashmir since millenia, not kashmiri Muslims question their status as original kashmiris. Go ask real Kashmir Muslim from the valley.

You're right, I messed up with what he was trying to say

 

[Great Janjua]

You're right, I messed up with what he was trying to say

So much for Kashmiri Pandits being Ethnic Kashmiris

 

[my2cents]

You had no business in Kashmir. Our fight was with the genocidal raja. You jumped in to support him. (And you're carrying on his legacy too. )


That's because your top general told Nehru that your army couldn't fight so it's better to run to UN.
Letters have been released recently. Go fish.

You also had no business in Kashmir and let them have a independent mulk, like Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Bhutan. But you started killing people and soldiers and raping women, so maharaja had to seek our help. Rest is history.

There is nothing to fish . You are ones who started the killing in Kashmir. You are the ones who are still uncivilized and training jihadists and doing cross border terrorism. So, Karma a bitch and your mulk is bankrupt.

 

[Great Janjua]

You also had no business in Kashmir and let them have a independent mulk, like Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Bhutan. But you started killing people and soldiers and raping women, so maharaja had to seek our help. Rest is history.

There is nothing to fish . You are ones who started the killing in Kashmir. You are the ones who are still uncivilized and training jihadists and doing cross border terrorism. So, Karma a bitch and your mulk is bankrupt.

Average Indian brain cell social media warrior logic, give me one instance in which the Pakistan army was called to quell protest and use pellet guns against AJK folk. The local Pahari Kashmiri uprising won the areas Pakistan holds today if given a chance Kashmiris on the Indian side will gladly join Pakistan but a Dindu like yourself who cannot even enter Kashmir without protocol can only resort to BS.

 

[my2cents]

One day Historians Will write research papers on India and it's secularist farce

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This farce was created to grab land from all the relgions that live in South Asia

I have nothing against Hindus, they're our blood brothers atleast from around our regions but y'all need to stop playing this secularism game for brownie points - it's false, it's corny

We did not grab Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. They are still independent countries and we have very good relations with them. Even Sikkim who joined India last also did it on its accord.
In case of J&K by executing an Instrument of Accession under the provisions of the Indian Independence Act 1947, Maharaja Hari Singh agreed to accede his state to the Dominion of India. On 27 October 1947, the then Governor-General of India, Lord Mountbatten accepted the accession.
Regarding secular India, it is the rigts enshrined in our constitution which makes it secular. There is no word ' secular ' written in our 1950 constitution and was added later in 1975. It is the principle ethos of majority of Indian people that makes it secular.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Average Indian brain cell social media warrior logic, give me one instance in which the Pakistan army was called to quell protest and use pellet guns against AJK folk. The local Pahari Kashmiri uprising won the areas Pakistan holds today if given a chance Kashmiris on the Indian side will gladly join Pakistan but a Dindu like yourself who cannot even enter Kashmir without protocol can only resort to BS.

all of the areas Pakistan controls were not taken over but joined in after successful local rebellions in AJK and Gilgit, Baltistan - they are anything but occupied territories as they fought war to join Pakistan
India on the other hand moved in troops to defend an unpopular Monarch turning it into an occupation

 

[my2cents]

Average Indian brain cell social media warrior logic, give me one instance in which the Pakistan army was called to quell protest and use pellet guns against AJK folk. The local Pahari Kashmiri uprising won the areas Pakistan holds today if given a chance Kashmiris on the Indian side will gladly join Pakistan but a Dindu like yourself who cannot even enter Kashmir without protocol can only resort to BS.

Ok, why not conduct the plebiscite under UN mandate which you also signed. Remove your troops first.

 

[Great Janjua]

Ok, why not conduct the plebiscite under UN mandate which you also signed. Remove your troops first.

Remove troops and lose what we have gained, yh right bozo, not happening until you let UN deploy their contingent.

The Main valley and Pahari areas opposite AJK are largely pro-Pakistan but Jammu being a Dogra majority will obviously go to India if a plebiscite does take place.

 

[my2cents]

all of the areas Pakistan controls were not taken over but joined in after successful local rebellions in AJK and Gilgit, Baltistan - they are anything but occupied territories as they fought war to join Pakistan
India on the other hand moved in troops to defend an unpopular Monarch turning it into an occupation

Who armed them? They were joined by your regular army. There are accounts of insane killing in muzafarabad by these tribesmen of innocent women, children and others who could not recite Kalma. They were brutes who had to be put down.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Who armed them? They were joined by your regular army. There are accounts of insane killing in muzafarabad by these tribesmen of innocent women, children and others who could not recite Kalma.

1947 Jammu massacres - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

jammu was a historically Muslim majority region - RSS, Sikh jathas, and Maharajas forces carried out pre planned massacres of Muslims of the region to reduce their numbers
after these pre-planned religious cleansing, actions were taken in AJK and Rajouri by tribesmen - its dark shit and I consider all em one people in many ways than not so I am not justifying anything, it hurts me but you need to look at what happened in Jammu before looking looking at AJK, Rajouri and what tribesmen did

They were brutes who had to be put down.

Copy pasting @waz post here
" Brother with all due respect that simply is NOT TRUE.
I've gone blue in the face putting up link after link, evidence after evidence about this.
It was the AKRF who freed Azad Kashmir, my grandfather, my grand uncles and the 90,000 men who fought in the Second World War.
Pashtun irregulars came later and the army even later than that.
I know people do it with the greatest of intentions but this undermines my people and discounts the sacrifices of our forefathers.".

"According to Sardar Ibrahim, during September 1947, some 50,000 men were organised into a people’s militia variously known as the ‘Azad Army’, ‘Azad Forces’ or ‘Azad Kashmir Regular Forces’. This locally-officered volunteer ‘army’ comprised 90 per cent ex-servicemen, except in Bagh, where the percentage was lower. A ‘very small percentage of Pakistani volunteers’ fought with them, as may have twelve women. According to the Azad Kashmir Defence Minister, Colonel Ali Ahmad Shah (a former captain in the J&K State Force), the ‘Azad Forces had been recruited locally or had risen spontaneously’. They comprised ‘seasoned troops’ with experience fighting in both world wars and the serious ‘Waziristan Operations’ (1920-21). After Azad Kashmir came into being, its ‘Defence Council’ assumed administrative control of ‘Azad Jammu and Kashmir Forces’. This council comprised seven members: two ministers (Defence, Finance); one bureaucrat (Defence secretary); two soldiers (commander-in-chief, chief of staff), and two ‘public representatives’ (members of the Muslim Conference).‘Soldiers’ were paid Rs. 10 per month from accumulated donations, although many men apparently refused wages. Clothing came from donations from local supporters and Pakistanis. The ‘main problem’ was a lack of arms, with some soldiers fighting with ‘axes, spears and swords’. Most used arms and ammunition ‘captured from the enemy in major and minor engagements’ or obtained from Muslim deserters from the Maharaja’s army. Communications were an issue, with men fighting ‘in separate groups on many fronts … [with] no links with each other’. Couriers carried messages between Muzaffarabad and Bagh; elsewhere, post and telegraphic exchanges went via locations in Pakistan"

"Benefiting from shorter supply lines, rugged terrain, local knowledge and support, and high morale, the Azad Army built on the Poonch uprising to further oppose the Maharaja. By 22 September 1947, the Azad Army’s military structure was functioning so well that Major-General Scott reported that the Maharaja’s armed forces were losing control over large parts of J&K. "

"The Maharaja’s opponents were doing well, despite ‘miserably lack[ing] a regular line of communication, and a regular supply of arms and ammunition’. By mid-to-late October, they controlled large parts of Poonch and Mirpur, while much of Muzaffarabad tehsil was being cleared of non-Muslims elements, including ‘Sikhs, Dogras and R.S.S [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh] cut-throats’. This latter activity mirrored anti-Muslim religious violence occurring in Jammu"

"The Azad Army’s success was significant: when Pukhtoon tribesmen entered Kashmir Province on 22 October 1947, most of western Jammu Province had already been liberated from the Maharaja’s forces. Two days after the Pukhtoons’ invasion – as India correctly called it"
https://www.india-seminar.com/2013/643/643_christopher_snedden.htm

when Pukhtoon tribesmen entered Kashmir Province on 22 October 1947, most of western Jammu Province had already been liberated

Now gilgit baltistan
This is a thread on liberation of GB started by a mod from gilgit baltistan

Gilgit-Baltistan's liberation

Now we all know that Pakistan got independence on August 14 , 1947 , what most of us don’t know is that after 3 months Gilgit-Baltistan got it’s independence . The history of Gilgit Baltistan can be divided into the following periods: Pre-History: The earliest inhabitants of the...

defence.pk

"On November 1, 1947 Gilgit-Baltistan became a republic and 15 days later acceded to Pakistan .Through a jointly formed armed struggle of the local people, the Gilgit Scouts and the Muslim officers of the Maharaja’s army, the area was liberated on November 1, 1947 and an interim government constituted under Raja Shah Rais Khan of Gilgit.The main reason being that : the people wanted to be a part of Pakistan but the governor had other plans , and then what the chain of reaction that unfold ."

The national flag

The government of Pakistan was invited through a telegram to take control of the areas. Responding to this request Sardar Muhammad Alam (A tehsildar in the NWFP government at that time) was appointed and sent to Gilgit on 16th November, as government of Pakistan’s political agent