Who will Sikhs Support?

[Iqbal_Brar]

Why did RobbieS get banned??? What a shame, the one guy who had the brains to discuss something here ends up getting banned.

 

[RobbieS]

Why did RobbieS get banned??? What a shame, the one guy who had the brains to discuss something here ends up getting banned.

I ain't banned bro. I guess you got me mixed up with somebody else. And I am surely going to post a thoughtful reply to your post and continue our discussion.

 

[MIG_ACE]

According to Wikipedia,

Sikhs make up 10–15% of all ranks in the Indian Army and 20% of its officers, whilst Sikhs only forming 1.87% of the Indian population, which makes them over 10 times more likely to be a soldier and officer in the Indian Army than the average Indian.

Now close the thread.

 

[RobbieS]

Punjabis need that agriculture to survive. You really think that if Biharis did not come over and started doing daharis for 100Rs/day, it would not have been done by Punjabis? The Punjabis would be FORCED to do it. As for Punjabis migrating, its true, tens of thousands migrate every year, but millions stay back!! As for overseeing the work, yes sure, whats wrong with that? On our farms, either my dad or uncles go to the village to oversee the farming as we live in the city, but all the hired people are local Punjabi villagers, not Bihari or UP Bhaiyas.

It would have been done bro, but at a higher cost. Our earnings wouldn't have been the same. And our profits margins would have dipped.

And may be your uncles manage the farms and employ Punjabis but when the crunch time of harvesting or sowing arrives, these bhaiyyas are the ones who do the job.



BADAL'S AKALIS DO NOT REPRESENT SIKHS!!!! His Akalis only represent 3 people:

Thats it! Thats all they represent!! THE BADAL FAMILY!!! They are corrupt power hungry Sikh kaum de Gaddaar!!

How can he represent the Sikh kaum when he falls at the feet of the enemies of the Sikhs??? He is nothing but a corrupt power hungry gaddaar!! To this date, he had not presented his views on anything relating to Bhindrawala to Operation Bluestar to Delhi riots.. All he cares about is votes, and he knows that if he presents his views on those topics, he will loose votes either way.. what kind of an ideological leader is that?? He is not!! He has no ideology, no policy, his only policy and ideology is pro-power. Anything that will being him to power he will do.. even if it means selling his own mother.

BOTH RSS and that monkey Ram Rahim of Dera Sacha Sauda are responsible for so much unrest and discontent in Punjab!! They continue to provoke the Sikhs, and when Sikhs react angrily, these assholes are given high security protection but the Sikhs are beaten and shot by the Police!!

Sadly in Punjab people have NO choice but only Akali party and Congress party. It is a see-saw between these two parties. Every election, one comes, the other goes. NONE of these parties can fix Punjab's water problems, electricity problems and expenses problem. That is why the Congress got the boot!! And come next elections, it will be turn of Akalis to get kicked out and come back in Congress. Stupidest 2 party monopoly in the world!! The only supposedly sane choice is Akali (Mann), but SS Mann is so stuck up on the Khalistan issue that he too does not offer any solutions to Punjab's current problems.

I am not a fan of the Badals bro, but you know what? I voted for Harsimrat Badal during last year's Lok Sabha elections. Thats because as you said, I had no choice. And as every bone in my body revolted against pressing the button against the symbol of Panja (hand) of the Congress, I pressed against the Takdi of the Akalis.

THANK YOU!!! And I TOTALLY agree with you!!! But simply look back! Look at the generation before us!! Look at our parents and grandparents, they were PROUD Sardars! What do you think happened?? In the 80s and 90s, baptism to the Sikh religion was hugely discouraged by Sikh parents because they did not want their sons to be rounded up by the army and the police and shot dead. And that was a common practice in the 80s and 90s. Just look at districts like Gurdaspur and Ferozepur, where in many villages, there whole male population was wiped out!! Being a baptised Sikh automatically meant being an "extremist" Sikh by the army.. the Police would look at you with suspicion! And besides a baptised young Sikh boy could much easily pass off as a terrorist than a non-baptised Sikh. The police, which got medals for killing terrorists, had a field day rounding up innocent baptised Sikhs and killing them, and than collecting bag fulls of medals and promotions! Even you know this is true!! And than just take a look at the propaganda war against Sikhs.. Hinduan ne Sikhan da majaak banna ke rakh ditta.. appe dekh laa bollywood movies de vich kiven sardaran nu sheran toh joker banna ke rakh ditta!! Bollywood went all the way trying to show Sardars as clowns and trying to ashame young Sikh boys into cutting their hair!!

Veer, you tend to oversimplify things. You forget that those killing the Sikh males were Sikh cops in Punjab Police and Sikh armymen. It wasn't a conspiracy against the Sikh Quam as its made out to be. Those were just bad times where one Sikh was after another's life. As they say..."Je Sikh Sikh nu Na Mare, Taan Qaum Kade Na Haare!"
And even if what you say is true, then what happened in the 90's? There was no pressure on parents in the 90's. Those were peaceful times. But the turbaned Sikh continued to be pushed towards the minority.

And whose fault do you think it is that today a Sikh's faith and pride is so weak that it is shaken by Bollywood's portrayal of Sikhs? We have seen centuries of persecution at the hands of the Mughals. Our ancestors gave away their heads but didn't lose their turbans. And we cut our hair just because of a stupid movie or a decade of violence?

Lets be strong bro. If we are strong about who we are no foreign force can shake us. If we allow everybody to worship in the gurudwara and dont ban the Majhabis, there aint have been a Ram Rahim.

 

[KeenGuy]

Will Sikhs support and fight against India in case of all out war between India and Pakistan?

This should answer your question

 

[Novice09]

And whose fault do you think it is that today a Sikh's faith and pride is so weak that it is shaken by Bollywood's portrayal of Sikhs? We have seen centuries of persecution at the hands of the Mughals. Our ancestors gave away their heads but didn't lose their turbans. And we cut our hair just because of a stupid movie or a decade of violence?

My grandfather was used to tell me the stories how our ancestors, who securely moved from Rajisthan to present Haryana under the umbrella of Sikh warriors.

How they died for their Guru's Holy Order

 

[equiliz3r]

janaab pehla anni bakwaas karan toh pehla meri post padd vi leya karo!!



So next time try READING my post before typing stupid things. I had already explained where the pictures were from!!

lol, that protest took place in ludhiana near my college...............I witnessed what happened.

brainwashed kid

 

[equiliz3r]

This should answer your question

YouTube - Sohna Pakistan - Jassi Lailpuria

and that should correct your answer

 

[RobbieS]

equilizer, brar - aapas ch na larho veero. We can have a sane discussion without any personal remarks.

 

[IBRIS]

Just landed in Newark Intl' Airport from PUNJAB (INDIA). Recent development and infrastructure is better than any other part of India...not to forget Punjab is still feeding entire Indian populations. Government is providing one of the best irrigation facilities, cheap power and agriculture inputs at subsidised rates have acted as a catalyst for agricultural production. Total production of food grains rose from 170.92 lakh tonnes in 1987-88 to 207 lakh tonnes in 1992-93 had contributed to increased agriculture production and improvement of the cultivators' economic status.

Please take a visit to Punjab and see it yourself why Punajbi's support India. Sitting behind your keyboard and googling won't change the reality of Punjab. To all keyboard warriors in Pakistan and India take a trip to Punjab and leave this thread alone.

 

[harrymohan]

I being myself a Sikh can vouch that most of the Sikhs living in India are pretty happy with India. Disgruntled Sikhs with Khalistan mentality immigrated to countries such as USA, Canada and UK. So I won't be surprised if a Sikh living outside of India says something anti-India. They are the disgruntled ones. I goto local Gurudwaras here in California and they have put pictures of the dead militants( for Indians Terrorist) onto the walls of langer area!

 

[harrymohan]

SELF DELETE

 

[yuvabharat]

not for pakistan thats sure MERA BHARAT MAHAAN

 

[gurjot]

i m a sikh and i put country first than religion,this will never be a religious fight,wake up pakistan

 

[Optimus]

Can any Pakistani following this thread enlighten me how they expect Indian Sikhs to support them?