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Several evil Western White's and Indian historian try to revert the history that TIBET IS NEVER PART OF CHINA!


Evil British dogs help Unity of India (Before British invasion, India was of many states and tribes.) But split China (Hong Kong, Tibet)
This is the main problem.



Mate here you are wrong. Indians consider tibet as the part of china and it is.....

British even left no stone to divide india, it was indian diplomacy that india got united as otherwise right was given to all the states to declare independece and there would have been 30 india back then instead of 30 states.
 
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Mate here you are wrong. Indians consider tibet as the part of china and it is.....

British even left no stone to divide india, it was indian diplomacy that india got united as otherwise right was given to all the states to declare independece and there would have been 30 india back then instead of 30 states.

In 1840s,

Tibet was parts of Qing Dynasty (China)

But India was just a groups of seperate state and tribes
 
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Brar veer, do u want to know the hard truth? Do you really want to know why there is an influx of people from UP and Bihar into Punjab. I bet if you'd have dug a bit deep you would have figured it out yourself.

Nobody was forced into Punjab. Those people came because there was a demand for their manual labour in agriculture and in small scale industrial units dotting Ludiana-Jalandhar belt. Do you think we Sikhs were willing to do that work? We were happy to sit back and enjoy the fruits of our lands without doing manual labour. Today no Sikh youth is happy doing agricultual work. Some of them just manage and oversee it but dream of getting rid of it and move to cities. The somewhat educated have moved to foreign shores while the well educated have moved to metros like Delhi and Bangalore for professional jobs. And this has been happening for the past 3 decades, ever since the green revolution was ushered in. How do you think agriculture, the mainstay of the Punjab economy was surviving for these past 3 decades. It was these very Bhaiyyas who were doing it.

The same is the story with small scale industries. The farm and industrial equipment manufacturers employ these people in huge numbers. Reason being cheaper rates for their labour and easier availability.

Punjabis need that agriculture to survive. You really think that if Biharis did not come over and started doing daharis for 100Rs/day, it would not have been done by Punjabis? The Punjabis would be FORCED to do it. As for Punjabis migrating, its true, tens of thousands migrate every year, but millions stay back!! As for overseeing the work, yes sure, whats wrong with that? On our farms, either my dad or uncles go to the village to oversee the farming as we live in the city, but all the hired people are local Punjabi villagers, not Bihari or UP Bhaiyas.

And I agree with you when you say that the cultural fabric of Punjab is changing due to these Hindi speaking people. But these people are just filling in a skill gap in the economy. And I dont fault only the Central govt. for that. Who do you think is in power in the state? The supposed torch-bearers of the Sikh Quam- The Akalis! It is our own fault bro and the times that we live in. Wasn't it the responsibility of the state govt. to develop industry within the state? 99% of those who have passed out Punjab's engineering colleges are employed outside the state. Punjab doesn't have a B-school in top 30 B-schools in India. And I know all of this because I belong to both of these educational groups.

BADAL'S AKALIS DO NOT REPRESENT SIKHS!!!! His Akalis only represent 3 people:

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Thats it! Thats all they represent!! THE BADAL FAMILY!!! They are corrupt power hungry Sikh kaum de Gaddaar!!

Here is the so-called "Sikh" Badal with his Hindu RSS friends:
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Here is the so-called "Sikh" Badal with his Ram Rahim friend:


How can he represent the Sikh kaum when he falls at the feet of the enemies of the Sikhs??? :angry: He is nothing but a corrupt power hungry gaddaar!! To this date, he had not presented his views on anything relating to Bhindrawala to Operation Bluestar to Delhi riots.. All he cares about is votes, and he knows that if he presents his views on those topics, he will loose votes either way.. what kind of an ideological leader is that?? He is not!! He has no ideology, no policy, his only policy and ideology is pro-power. Anything that will being him to power he will do.. even if it means selling his own mother..

BOTH RSS and that monkey Ram Rahim of Dera Sacha Sauda are responsible for so much unrest and discontent in Punjab!! They continue to provoke the Sikhs, and when Sikhs react angrily, these assholes are given high security protection but the Sikhs are beaten and shot by the Police!! :angry::angry:

Sadly in Punjab people have NO choice but only Akali party and Congress party. It is a see-saw between these two parties. Every election, one comes, the other goes. NONE of these parties can fix Punjab's water problems, electricity problems and expenses problem. That is why the Congress got the boot!! And come next elections, it will be turn of Akalis to get kicked out and come back in Congress. Stupidest 2 party monopoly in the world!! The only supposedly sane choice is Akali (Mann), but SS Mann is so stuck up on the Khalistan issue that he too does not offer any solutions to Punjab's current problems.

And what is a Sikh today bro? According to SGPC figures more than half of Sikhs today have shorn-hair. The figure is close to 70% for those in the age group of 15-30. Where is our pride in our turbans? Punjab today is wallowing in drugs. Our rural youth cant look beyond Bhukki, Afeem and Phensy and the urban not beyond Cocaine. Where are our education levels? Our per capita income is the highest in India but we are amongst the average states when it comes to education. We Sikhs and Punjabis need to take a deep look within ourselves bro.....

THANK YOU!!! And I TOTALLY agree with you!!! But simply look back! Look at the generation before us!! Look at our parents and grandparents, they were PROUD Sardars! What do you think happened?? In the 80s and 90s, baptism to the Sikh religion was hugely discouraged by Sikh parents because they did not want their sons to be rounded up by the army and the police and shot dead. And that was a common practice in the 80s and 90s. Just look at districts like Gurdaspur and Ferozepur, where in many villages, there whole male population was wiped out!! Being a baptised Sikh automatically meant being an "extremist" Sikh by the army.. the Police would look at you with suspicion! And besides a baptised young Sikh boy could much easily pass off as a terrorist than a non-baptised Sikh. The police, which got medals for killing terrorists, had a field day rounding up innocent baptised Sikhs and killing them, and than collecting bag fulls of medals and promotions! Even you know this is true!! And than just take a look at the propaganda war against Sikhs.. Hinduan ne Sikhan da majaak banna ke rakh ditta.. appe dekh laa bollywood movies de vich kiven sardaran nu sheran toh joker banna ke rakh ditta!! Bollywood went all the way trying to show Sardars as clowns and trying to ashame young Sikh boys into cutting their hair!!
 
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We don't want and try to split any existing country, but we also don't allow any other (Small Jap and Kor, Western Whites, India and Islamic extremists) to split our country!
 
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oh mera khalistani veer pagal ho geya..................mixing pics......

some are of samarala chowk of ludhiana where police used force when they were attacked by swords...............I was there .......watched whole show live...................Firing was justified.............poor policeman too have life.
And that thing was not related to riots or anything but for a gandu sant who was going to hold satsang near chownk.
hahahahaha.............twisting facts can be learned from you

janaab pehla anni bakwaas karan toh pehla meri post padd vi leya karo!!

Iqbal_Brar said:
The protests were against the lack of justice for Sikhs (the one in november) and the second series of protests, when the army had to be called in, was against the RSS and BJP backed Hindu Bihari baba setting up a camp on Punjabi soil.

So next time try READING my post before typing stupid things. I had already explained where the pictures were from!!
 
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We don't want and try to split any existing country, but we also don't allow any other (Small Jap and Kor, Western Whites, India and Islamic extremists) to split our country!

Good for you buddy! Now can you stop hijacking this thread?? Go make one on Tibetans and China if you want to discuss that.
 
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As Brar said, please do not hijack this thread. Let us discuss our own issues.

Fair enough. Judging from the recent protests and history of resistance, the Sikhs appear more inclined towards Pakistan than India -- but overall they seem to want INDEPENDENCE FROM BOTH nations, aka Khalistan.

Do I think Khalistan will succeed within the next 5 years? No, because any uprising will be crushed. Will Khalistan become a reality in 10 years? Possible, especially considering Delhi's weakening grip. A similar thing can be seen in the UK for example:

- Scotland is already putting the issue of sovereignty in their referendums

- Northern Ireland has been voted to move judicial and police power back to Dublin, much to the dismay of London

- Regionalism in England is at a boiling point

- Racial, Ethnic & Religious tensions among the different groups are at an all time high

- Maldives will soon be liberated. Argentina has the FULL support of regional nations and the international community at large

Thus, the break-up of Britain is eminent in the next 5-10 years.
 
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Fair enough. Judging from the recent protests and history of resistance, the Sikhs appear more inclined towards Pakistan than India -- but overall they seem to want INDEPENDENCE FROM BOTH nations, aka Khalistan.

Do I think Khalistan will succeed within the next 5 years? No, because any uprising will be crushed. Will Khalistan become a reality in 10 years? Possible, especially considering Delhi's weakening grip. A similar thing can be seen in the UK for example:

- Scotland is already putting the issue of sovereignty in their referendums

- Northern Ireland has been voted to move judicial and police power back to Dublin, much to the dismay of London

- Regionalism in England is at a boiling point

- Racial, Ethnic & Religious tensions among the different groups are at an all time high

- Maldives will soon be liberated. Argentina has the FULL support of regional nations and the international community at large

Thus, the break-up of Britain is eminent in the next 5-10 years.

Thank you for your views. You seem to be quite an expert on Sikh affairs. You put too much emphasis on history and less on the views of the present Sikh population in India. Thats where your assumptions are wrong.

Btw. Maldives is an independent country. I think you meant the Falklands.
 
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Thank you for your views. You seem to be quite an expert on Sikh affairs. You put too much emphasis on history and less on the views of the present Sikh population in India. Thats where your assumptions are wrong.

Btw. Maldives is an independent country. I think you meant the Falklands.

Yes, it meant Malvinas.
 
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@topic...
The Indian army has the largest representation by Sikhs...why would they enlist if they didn't want to fight for their land?
There are unhappy and discontented sikhs in India as there are unhappy and discontented Hindus in India...doesn't mean that they'd give up their patriotism and their faith on their motherland...
 
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