Who is this Lunatic?

[Reichsmarschall]

Who is that fella ??

 

[Spring Onion]

I am reading one of his papers in English, intriguing to say the least .

He's wrong on the gun. BTW which paper you have or still reading ?

 

[Wolfhunter]

He's wrong on the gun. BTW which paper you have or still reading ?

Yup, lets agree to disagree!
To me it is just about misunderstanding what was being said and will leave it at that. Can move forward then?

What about the project related to Pakistan's socio-economic situation and terrorism link? What is it for? Some degree? what?

Yes I am studying Counter Terrorism Studies and St. Andrews University.

I thought you were British Pakistani?

Yes I very much am, but I have not lived in Pakistan for a very long time, nor do I have close links or ties to Pakistan so I try to get as much information as I can from people I interact with, reading papers, journals, newspapers and Youtube etc.

 

[Torch_v2.0]

Ahh..
Another Indian Sh*thole , Man the count never stops

 

[Hamza913]

Yes please that would be most appreciative. Please may I ask what relationship do you see Pakistan having as an modern Islamic Republic with it's neighbors and wider community, do you support the Malaysia or Indonesian models or are you in support of the Turkish model?

Recently there have been a high number of attacks on minorities in Pakistan, particularly Christians and Hindus. As I understand it, there is law protecting minorities and places of worship, what is your stance on the people who carry out these attacks or prejudice against minorities in Pakistan.

In the next 10 years do you see Pakistan getting more liberal or more stricter in practicing Islam and Sharia and what is your opinion of the security situation in Pakistan and along the borders of Afghanistan and Urumqi in the coming years?

Pakistan should form alliances based on what suits its interests, but lets keep them at alliances and not get emotional over them. We should do what can benefit Pakistan first and foremost. We must also ensure that through our alliances (e.g with the Chinese or the Burmese) we do NOT aid them in their military efforts against other Muslims, and instead use our role to try and alleviate any tensions these countries may have with any particular Muslim communities.

I don't really know what these models you speak of are, care to elaborate?

These attacks are not correct, and those who commit them need to be punished according to the frameworks of Sharia law.

I see Pakistan as becoming more strict among the general masses, but the wealthy ones among us will remain liberal as they always have been, perhaps on an even bigger scale. As for the government itself, I do think we will get a more religious government sometime in the nearby future.

The security situation in Pakistan is improving and will no doubt return to normal levels as it was prior to 9/11.

When it comes to Afghanistan, Pakistan needs to build that fence and guard it well. Any threats from the country must be dealt with appropriately, with whatever force is necessary (so long as civilian casualties remain minimal). The refugees can stay, I have no major problems with them. The Afghan government itself should be looked at as the enemy, and should punished any and every time they try to do something against us.

I don't honestly know much about Pakistan's current situation with Urumqi (is there even one?).

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Hahah, thanks for the warning. I am going to read more about him to better understand the kind of influencers that exist in Pakistan. So far I have gathered that there are three major schools of thought, two of which are in a constant state of flux with the third being possibly the only stable party often acting as a pivot. I speak of course of the Islamic Hardliners, the Military and the Liberal crowd.

Interestingly my reading so far has concluded than many of the hawks and nationalist types have very strong links with hard line Islamic movements, although there is little or no correlation between those who support nationalist movements to necessarily have links with any extremist outfit like the LEJ or TTP.

What is worrying is that lack or diminishing segment of the vocal liberal in Pakistani society, my interaction with Pakistani Diaspora here in the U.K has been a mixture of intellectual, professional and those highly critical of the military.

I would like to speak to those from each end of the spectrum so I can better understand what is the primary driver for societal conflict in Pakistan (discounting politics and economic issues).

For the bold part, how come it should be worrying for an outsider as to what is going on in Pakistan? Do you hear from anyone from Pakistan raising voices of concern about Europe sliding towards far right and nationalist mindset, or in America case, even worse, where the bible thumping individuals like Mike Pence sitting in white house waiting for his rapture? Should you not be more worried about what is happening around you or the ones who belonging anglo saxon grouping?

Pakistan should be the last of your worries if you are so concerned about "liberalism". Spare your intellectual energies, if you have any, and address matters which are of immediate concern and more closer to home and society.

 

[The Diplomat]

@Torch @Reichsmarschall
Two of this man’s best moments.

 

[Wolfhunter]

For the bold part, how come it should be worrying for an outsider as to what is going on in Pakistan? Do you hear from anyone from Pakistan raising voices of concern about Europe sliding towards far right and nationalist mindset, or in America case, even worse, where the bible thumping individuals like Mike Pence sitting in white house waiting for his rapture? Should you not be more worried about what is happening around you or the ones who belonging anglo saxon grouping?

Pakistan should be the last of your worries if you are so concerned about "liberalism". Spare your intellectual energies, if you have any, and address matters which are of immediate concern and more closer to home and society.

Excuse me, this is a forum for discussions and sharing ideas and learning. Are you a moderator?, clearly not please don't dictate to me what I can and cannot comment on. Also Pakistan is part of the world, anything that happens in Pakistan impacts the rest of the world!

I am making these inquires because I am engaged in a postgraduate study and part of my course is Sociological and Economic factors impacting extremist thinking. Now please if you will, allow me to share ideas with those who are more open minded to conversations!

Cheers!

 

[The Diplomat]

@Wolfhunter Zaid Hamid’s father fought in the ‘65 war. I’m not sure if Zaid himself has military experience or not, he claims to be a National Defence expert however I disagree. He makes tutorials on YouTube these days...
Not going to lie; most of the stuff he says is rubbish however there are certain things in his speech that are alright.

 

[Torch_v2.0]

@Torch @Reichsmarschall
Two of this man’s best moments.

He is a Madman

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Excuse me, this is a forum for discussions and sharing ideas and learning. Are you a moderator?, clearly not please don't dictate to me what I can and cannot comment on. Also Pakistan is part of the world, anything that happens in Pakistan impacts the rest of the world!

I am making these inquires because I am engaged in a postgraduate study and part of my course is Sociological and Economic factors impacting extremist thinking. Now please if you will, allow me to share ideas with those who are more open minded to conversations!

Cheers!

I do take objection to your non sense, making a big deal out of so called "extremism" in Pakistan. I am Pakistani national, clearly you are not and that give me right to respond to those who talk rubbish about Pakistan due to their preconceived and concocted ideas about our society and internal politics.

As I said, you are researching something which got no intellectual value for yourself or anyone who might be interested in your work, specially at a time, where world is seeing a great shift to far right and religious politics, when you got countries like India, Israel and America, as we speak, under the rule of religious fundos. Indeed Pakistan is part of the world, but not first place where we will see the death of "liberalism", it already happened in so called civilized or democratic world. And if we do have our own right wingers in power, it will be in reaction to these new geopolitical realities and in response to the right wingers of other nations that we see as threat to our interests and state.

You are barking against the wrong tree.

 

[Wolfhunter]

I do take objection to your non sense, making a big deal out of so called "extremism" in Pakistan. I am Pakistani national, clearly you are not and that give me right to respond to those who talk rubbish about Pakistan due to their preconceived and concocted ideas about our society and internal politics.

As I said, you are researching something which got no intellectual value for yourself or anyone who might be interested in your work, specially at a time, where world is seeing a great shift to far right and religious politics, when you got countries like India, Israel and America, as we speak, under the rule of religious fundos. Indeed Pakistan is part of the world, but not first place where we will see the death of "liberalism", it already happened in so called civilized or democratic world. And if we do have our own right wingers in power, it will be in reaction to these new geopolitical realities and in response to the right wingers of other nations that we see as threat to our interests and state.

You are barking against the wrong tree.

1. You are free to make your own assessments and come to your own conclusion, you are an adult after all.

2. What nonsense would you refer to?

so called "extremism" in Pakistan

So I suppose Visiting Fellow of the RUSI Kamal Alam's paper is garbage then?
Read more here: https://rusi.org/people/alam

3. Even brother China is stating that there is credible threat from extremism in Pakistan:
http://www.ejinsight.com/20180226-why-are-chinese-becoming-increasingly-unwelcome-in-pakistan/

I am Pakistani national

Even if I am not a Pakistani national, does that not allow me to comment on Pakistani affairs? You do know how childish that makes you sound right?

talk rubbish about Pakistan

What rubbish have I said about Pakistan, please elaborate.

Due to their preconceived and concocted ideas about our society and internal politics.

I read 4 Pakistani news papers daily, I monitor Pakistani journalists and influencers on Twitter and speak to Pakistanis from all walks of life, I think I have a good handle on what is going on in Pakistan.

As I said, you are researching something which got no intellectual value for yourself or anyone who might be interested in your work

Oh, so now you are a professor too? Thankfully the University I attend which is the 92nd best in the WORLD thinks otherwise.

specially at a time, where world is seeing a great shift to far right and religious politics, when you got countries like India, Israel and America, as we speak, under the rule of religious fundos.

You do know that Religious and Political extremists are side of the same coin, right? Have you read the works of Marx?

Indeed Pakistan is part of the world, but not first place where we will see the death of "liberalism"

Pakistan is actually strategically placed to be the centre of many things in Asia/CE and ME, look beyond your tunnel vision please.

it already happened in so called civilized or democratic world

How so, please elaborate!

You are barking against the wrong tree.

I do not bark, I merely observe and sometimes ask questions. It is only by listening and questioning that we can truly learn!

 

[Jaanbaz]

Yes I very much am, but I have not lived in Pakistan for a very long time, nor do I have close links or ties to Pakistan so I try to get as much information as I can from people I interact with, reading papers, journals, newspapers and Youtube etc.

I understand, I suggest a visit to Pakistan might give you more experience right from the moment you have to deal with customs.

 

[Fledgingwings]

He lives,talks,thinks,dreams "PAKISTAN" more than anyone else in this forum

 

[Wolfhunter]

I understand, I suggest a visit to Pakistan might give you more experience right from the moment you have to deal with customs.

I have visited Pakistan, actually I spent a week Shadowing Sindh Police and a day with Sindh Rangers in Karachi.