Which is the better Ground Attack Jet? MiG-27 or Mirage-5 or Jaguar

[MiG-21]

A lot is unknown about the ground attack capability of these jets. Which of these do you think is the best among these 3? And please state your reasons.
I have these figures below, however these may be unreliable because they weren't checked with multiple sources. Also some of the data is unavailable. Maybe you could provide reliable data with proper sources? Thanks.

Upgraded MiG-27ML/H
General-
Operator: IAF
Number: ~120
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 4,000 kg
Hardpoints: 5 -7
Range: 770 km
Mid Air Refueling: ?
SEAD Capability: ?
Night Time Capability: Yes
FLIR: Yes
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: ?
Laser Guided Bombs: Yes
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: ?
HUD and MFD: Yes
Guns: 30 mm cannon twin barrel with 260 rounds


Self Defence-
Radar: It has no radar. (Or does it have Russian Komar radar?)
IRST: Yes.
Short Range AAMs: R-73
Speed: Mach 1.77
Thrust to Weight: 0.76
Service ceiling: 14,000m
Jammers: Elta Podded Jammer
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: Yes
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ?
G-Limits: +6

Comments: Sloping nose cone for better visibility. Its pilots called it "Balcony" because of the increased frontal view from the cockpit. Toughened Landing gear to take off from Rough make shift Airfields.



Upgraded Mirage-5 Rose 2 & Rose 3
General-
Operator: PAF
Number: ~30
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 4,000 kg
Hardpoints: 5 - 7
Range: 1300 km
Mid Air Refueling: No
SEAD Capability: ?
Night Time Capability: Yes
FLIR: Yes
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: ?
Laser Guided Bombs: Yes
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: ?
HUD and MFD: Yes
Guns: Two 30 mm cannon with 125 rounds in each

Self Defence-
Radar: It has no radar.
IRST: No
Short Range AAMs: Aim-9
Speed: Mach 2.2
Thrust to Weight: 0.61
Service ceiling: 17,000m
Jammers: No
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: Yes
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ?
G-Limits: ?


Un-upgraded Mirage-5
General-
Operator: PAF
Number: ~50
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 4,000 kg
Hardpoints: 5 - 7
Range: 1300 km
Mid Air Refueling: No
SEAD Capability: No
Night Time Capability: No
FLIR: No
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: No
Laser Guided Bombs: No
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: No
HUD and MFD: No
Guns: Two 30 mm cannon with 125 rounds in each

Self Defence-
Radar: It has no radar.
IRST: No
Short Range AAMs: Aim-9
Speed: Mach 2.2
Thrust to Weight: 0.61
Service ceiling: 17,000m
Jammers: No
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: ?
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ?
G-Limits: ?

Upgraded Jaguar
General-
Operator: IAF
Number: ~120
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 6,000+ kg
Hardpoints: 5 - 7
Range: 1700 km
Mid Air Refueling: ?
SEAD Capability: Yes
Night Time Capability: Yes
FLIR: Yes
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: Yes
Laser Guided Bombs: Yes
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: ?
HUD and MFD: Yes
Guns: Two 30 mm cannon with 150 rounds in each


Self Defence-
Radar: No, but it has a Podded Ground Attack Radar. Naval version numbering only around 15 has a full fledged Radar.
IRST: ?
Short Range AAMs: Python-5
Speed: Mach 1.6
Thrust to Weight: ?
Service ceiling: 14,000m
Jammers: Elta Podded Jammer
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: Yes + Towed Decoy
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ?
G-Limits: ?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Upgraded jaguar.

 

[Imran Khan]

jaguar and mirage are better after upgrades.

 

[kaykay]

jaguars are better than both....no doubt about it.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Jaguars superior have much more advantages over other 2.Second would be rose mirages.MIg-27 and unupgraded mirages are scrapmetal cans.

 

[Imran Khan]

who is genius wrote it lolz


Mirage-5
General-
Operator: PAF
Number: ~50
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 4,000 kg
Hardpoints: 5 - 7
Range: 1300 km
Mid Air Refueling: No lolz yes
SEAD Capability: No lolz yes
Night Time Capability: No lolz yes
FLIR: No
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
Laser Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
HUD and MFD: No lolz yes
Guns: Two 30 mm cannon with 125 rounds in each

Self Defence-
Radar: It has no radar. lolz yes
IRST: No lolz yes
Short Range AAMs: Aim-9
Speed: Mach 2.2
Thrust to Weight: 0.61
Service ceiling: 17,000m
Jammers: ???
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: ? lolz yes
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ? lolz yes
G-Limits: ?

if you don't know better ask someone who know it its advise .

i think kids forget the day when so many red faces of IAF feel anger and shame abut mighty jaguar failed to release Matra Durandal anti runway missiles may be he way trying to copy our mirage

 

[Abingdonboy]

IAF Jaguar with Darin II/III UPG for sure, afterall ground strike is what it is designed to do! But Mirage 2000-5 UPG that IAF will also be formidable but is an all-rounder MRCA as is most of the IAF fleet (MKI/Mig-29UPG/LCA) so there isn't much in it.

 

[Sinnerman108]

The Jaguar should be first choice, always ( tongue in cheek ... it needs some improvements).
Mig
Mirage.

There isn't much to choose between Mig and Mirage. By design they are equivalent platforms.

I love the Jaguar design, and the engineering approach taken.
However every ground attack / support air craft needs to be very very reliable.
If only Jaguar could improve in this area !

 

[Abingdonboy]

The Jaguar should be first choice, always ( tongue in cheek ... it needs some improvements).
Mig
Mirage.

There isn't much to choose between Mig and Mirage. By design they are equivalent platforms.

I love the Jaguar design, and the engineering approach taken.
However every ground attack / support air craft needs to be very very reliable.
If only Jaguar could improve in this area !

Well the IAF has a pretty serious UPG of IAF Jags planned called the DARIN III not to mention re-engining with Honeywell F-125IN.

 

[Archie]

Well Actually None , ALL three will be phased out in next 10-15 ys

coz PAF will replace Mirage 5 Rose with JF17 BLK 3 ( Blk 1 & 2 will replace F7)

India Will begin retiring Mig 27 in 2015 , with the last sqd being replaced by 2020 , they will be replaced on one to one basis with the Rafale ,
As far as Jaguars are concerned , well First 2 Jaguar Sqds will be replaced by Rafales by 2022 , while remaining 4 Sqds will be replaced by FGFA/PAKFA between 2022-26 , though some feel that 57 Jaguars Inducted between 2001-08 could be transfered to Army Air corps for Close Air Support after decommissioning from IAF , since their airframes could theoretically serve till 2040
Since the Darin III upgrade will add a Multimode Radar , Mica AAM , Paveway II LGB Kits , AASM anti Armour Kits , not to mention a new engine

 

[MiG-21]

^ 10-15 years is a long time. WW2 began and got over in just under 6 years. 1971 war lasted less than 2 weeks.

Mirage-5
General-
Operator: PAF
Number: ~50
Role: Ground Attack

Attack Role-
Weapon Load: 4,000 kg
Hardpoints: 5 - 7
Range: 1300 km
Mid Air Refueling: No lolz yes
SEAD Capability: No lolz yes
Night Time Capability: No lolz yes
FLIR: No
Dumb Bombs: Yes
TV Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
Laser Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs: No lolz yes
HUD and MFD: No lolz yes
Guns: Two 30 mm cannon with 125 rounds in each

Self Defence-
Radar: It has no radar. lolz yes
IRST: No lolz yes
Short Range AAMs: Aim-9
Speed: Mach 2.2
Thrust to Weight: 0.61
Service ceiling: 17,000m
Jammers: ???
Chaff and Flare Dispensers: ? lolz yes
RCS: ?
Heat Signature: ? lolz yes
G-Limits: ?

if you don't know better ask someone who know it its advise .

i think kids forget the day when so many red faces of IAF feel anger and shame abut mighty jaguar failed to release Matra Durandal anti runway missiles may be he way trying to copy our mirage

I think you are confusing Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 which number only around 30-35 aircraft, with the Un-upgraded Mirage-5. I don't think un-upgraded Mirage-5 has the above 'lolz yes'. I've separately given Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 capabilities.

I'd like sources for Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 for the following:
# Mid Air Refueling Capability
# SEAD Capability
# TV Guided Bombs Capability
# GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs Capability
# Radar
# IRST
# Jammers

 

[Imran Khan]

^ 10-15 years is a long time. WW2 began and got over in just under 6 years. 1971 war lasted less than 2 weeks.


I think you are confusing Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 which number only around 30-35 aircraft, with the Un-upgraded Mirage-5. I don't think unupgraded Mirage-5 has the following.

I'd like sources for Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 for the following:
# Mid Air Refueling Capability
# SEAD Capability
# Night Time Capability
# TV Guided Bombs Capability
# GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs Capability
# Radar
# IRST
# Jammers

wow BTW from wheer you got info we have 30-35 mirage rose ? rose-1 rose-2 and rose-3 takes some 12 years of all air crafts and they upgrade just 35 bird and paid millions of dollars?
all of these perametters are confirmed here dude just check the capabilities of mirage rose thread ou will be surprised .


here you go mid air refueling of mirage

IRTS for mirage made in pakistan

AF Mirage -5EF (Ex-French Airforce), I believe this is ROSE III and showed off during Paris Air Show 2005, with SAGEM avionic and weapon package.
Also notice the Targeting POD, Mirage-5f can be fitted with targeting POD as well.

look whats l;oaded in center of hard point it radar guided missile metra-530

and what abut cruse missile and nuclear delivery of mirage rose pakistan modify them to carry raad ALCM .

what abut anti ship capability ? ASM AM-39 Exocet

FLIR unit under the canopy of mirage a gift for you

Radar????? are e you kidding with me ? grifo-7 radar from Italy with TOT for mirage rose lolz

as per official site they upgrade 12 air crafts per years you have to read PAC d3ear
Pakistan Aeronautical Complex

 

[Abingdonboy]

When are those Mirage-5s set to be replaced? They are almost 40 years old right, and the ROSE UPG is good but it's not really enough to keep these a/c relevant in modern warfare is it?

 

[MiG-21]

wow BTW from wheer you got info we have 30-35 mirage rose ? rose-1 rose-2 and rose-3 takes some 12 years of all air crafts and they upgrade just 35 bird and paid millions of dollars?
all of these perametters are confirmed here dude just check the capabilities of mirage rose thread ou will be surprised .


here you go mid air refueling of mirage

No no no no no no NO!!! Buddy, you need to know the difference between Mirage-3 and Mirage-5. Mirage-3 is an interceptor with secondary ground attack capability. Mirage-5 is only a Ground attack jet, it doesn't even have a radar. Mirage ROSE 1 was performed on Mirage-3 and ROSE-2 and ROSE-3 was performed on Mirage-5. I dunno how many Mirage-3 got upgraded but only 30-35 of Mirage-5 got upgraded. Project ROSE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

# Only Mirage-3 has an IRST targeting pod. What about Mirage-5? This Topic is about Mirage-5.

# Yes I know Mirage-5 has a Laser targeting pod. I've accurately given that it can drop LGB.

# Yes I know it can launch Aim-9 and Magic 550. I've accurately given that as well.

Again, I'd like sources for Upgraded ROSE Mirage-5 for the following:
# Mid Air Refueling Capability
# SEAD Capability
# Night Time Capability
# TV Guided Bombs Capability
# GPS/GLONASS Guided Bombs Capability
# Radar
# IRST
# Jammers
Yes I know

 

[GR!FF!N]

its jaguar...specially its terrain hugging low flight makes it almost undetectable and its capability to land in a small field is awsome.