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Nice for what ? He was a soldier of thiscountry,son of the soil ... A Patriot who sacrificed his life for us and his country...he deserves much more than just this.
That is what you think. That is why I said Nice. Not all think that way. some even says that Hindus are Lazy for standing for their rights. It is always the Hindus are to blamed.
 
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Nice.


I heard that they have few MP's in Pakistan Parliament. I have heard that they were very vocal about minority rights. Of course, these are from news papers.


I am sorry to say that you said Hindus are lazy in standing of their rights. I got my answer.

1. I can tell you with conviction that any MP from Hindu community had always worked for own interests.
2. It is time they should start building up pressure on their elected reps.

3. Yes i repeat they are lazy to stand up , it is time they should get active like Pakistani Christians
 
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That is what you think. That is why I said Nice. Not all think that way. some even says that Hindus are Lazy for standing for their rights. It is always the Hindus are to blamed.
She's absolutely right ... Unlike Christains Hindu legislators are worried about their own affairs rather than representing the people..
 
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1. I can tell you with conviction that any MP from Hindu community had always worked for own interests.
2. It is time they should start building up pressure on their elected reps.

3. Yes i repeat they are lazy to stand up , it is time they should get active like Pakistani Christians
any way I got the answers. May be burmese muslims are also lazy in standing for their rights. Same can be said for all MPs. And tell me how they will build pressure ? only 3 million are left.

She's absolutely right ... Unlike Christains Hindu legislators are worried about their own affairs rather than representing the people..
And that is the fault of Hindus. I did not expect to get this answer from you. Any way.
 
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any way I got the answers. May be burmese muslims are also lazy in standing for their rights. Same can be said for all MPs. And tell me how they will build pressure ? only 3 million are left.


And that is the fault of Hindus. I did not expect to get this answer from you. Any way.

No that is the failure of govt and corrupt individuals... Aswell as the people who talk shit.

That is certainly not the fault of the average Pakistani Hindu.
 
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any way I got the answers. May be burmese muslims are also lazy in standing for their rights. Same can be said for all MPs. And tell me how they will build pressure ? only 3 million are left.

1. Burmese Muslims are caught in International politics/international geo-political terror whereas Pakistani Hindus are not . So if they can not even gather to protest then it is their own laziness specially when our Pakistani media is all waiting for such happenings to highlight and support the cause.

2. 3 million does not mean they would never breed. they are not khassis so better stand up than making up excuses

3. How is pressure build up on MPs in your country?
 
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I support India becoming the first resort of support for Hindus everywhere in the world. While we are secular, we are also the cultural epicenter of Hinduism and Budhism. If we don't care for them, who will?
 
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1. Burmese Muslims are caught in International politics/international geo-political terror whereas Pakistani Hindus are not . So if they can not even gather to protest then it is their own laziness specially when our Pakistani media is all waiting for such happenings to highlight and support the cause.

2. 3 million does not mean they would never breed. they are not khassis so better stand up than making up excuses

3. How is pressure build up on MPs in your country?
Look . I dont want to argue with you. How burmese muslims are caught in international terror or politics where as Pakistani hindus are not ? This i only a statement. Nothing else. Burmese muslims also can build up pressure in the same way as pakistani Hindus. you can say that Pakistani hindus are caught between India-Pakistan politics.

In my country pressure is built up by the MP's when they represent a large group of people. A small group of peoples representation is in general ignored.

No that is the failure of govt and corrupt individuals... Aswell as the people who talk shit.

That is certainly not the fault of the average Pakistani Hindu.
Never mind. I already got the answer.
 
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Why are Indians here trying to become the thekedar of Pakistani Hindus .. Pakistan is their country its is up to their society and Govt. How to treat them secondly we have nothing in common with Pakistani Hindus.
 
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Look . I dont want to argue with you. How burmese muslims are caught in international terror or politics where as Pakistani hindus are not ? This i only a statement. Nothing else. Burmese muslims also can build up pressure in the same way as pakistani Hindus. you can say that Pakistani hindus are caught between India-Pakistan politics.

In my country pressure is built up by the MP's when they represent a large group of people. A small group of peoples representation is in general ignored.


Never mind. I already got the answer.
By the way 3 million people can send 10 to 15 individuals to parliament who have no say in Parliaments.

Why are Indians here trying to become the thekedar of Pakistani Hindus .. Pakistan is their country its is up to their society and Govt. How to treat them secondly we have nothing in common with Pakistani Hindus.
No body is becoming the thkedar. I even said in another post that bilkul sahi hua unke saath.
 
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I support India becoming the first resort of support for Hindus everywhere in the world. While we are secular, we are also the cultural epicenter of Hinduism and Budhism. If we don't care for them, who will?


This editorial of the Hindu newspaper of May 11, 2015.

Let us see what is going against your own Low cast Hindus in cultural epicenter of Hinduism called India

This is a light editorial i am not yet posting incidents of injustice to low cast Hindus in India

Discrimination most foul
Editorial on discrimination against Dalits - The Hindu

Close to seven decades after Independence, in many villages of India the nature of certain social equations has not changed from what they have been for centuries. Such villages continue to remain what Dr. B.R. Ambedkar called “sinks of localism, dens of ignorance and narrow-mindedness”.

How else could one see certain recent incidents reported from Tumakuru in Karnataka about village barber shops denying haircuts for Dalits, temple festivities remaining out-of-bounds for Dalit families, and other forms of prevalent discrimination? By all accounts these are not isolated incidents. Discrimination against Dalits is widespread and ingrained in the psyche across India, in rural settings in particular.

In some places it takes the form of violent oppression, in others it is disguised yet omnipresent. To be fair, when the incidents in Tumakuru came to notice, the administration took corrective steps immediately. This suggests responsiveness on the part of the state to issues of social justice at least in some cases. But recurring acts and persisting practices against the Dalit community beg the question whether state response and constitutionalism alone are enough to overcome longstanding social injustice and prejudices in India’s villages.

In other words, has political justice — achieved in some respects over time by means of affirmative action — managed to overcome social injustice at all? The alacrity shown by state authorities in the Tumakaru cases reflects to some extent the political power gained by Dalits in India and the efficacy of the rule of law. After all, the Constitution guarantees the right to equality of all citizens and affirmative action for Dalits. Years of following the policy of affirmative action has yielded a high degree of participation and representation of Dalits in politics and in governance. But without progressive social consciousness permeating society at large, constitutionalism, state actions and political equations simply do not suffice. It would help if the political actors who have accommodated Dalits among their party and governance structures, due to the their sheer weight of numbers as a representative section, also believed in and worked as conduits for social transformation.

Perhaps if Dalits were not merely accommodated but were accorded leadership roles in parties, that could aid this process of social activism. A recent study pointed out that barring exceptions such as the Bahujan Samaj Party, the leadership of major political parties suffered from a clear diversity deficit, with Dalits being severely under-represented in the leadership across parties. Being made part of the political leadership — one way of being among the elite in the country — will not by itself guarantee the eradication of social prejudice, but it will be a step in the right direction.
 
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This editorial of the Hindu newspaper of May 11, 2015.

Let us see what is going against your own Low cast Hindus in cultural epicenter of Hinduism called India

This is a light editorial i am not yet posting incidents of injustice to low cast Hindus in India

Discrimination most foul
Editorial on discrimination against Dalits - The Hindu

Close to seven decades after Independence, in many villages of India the nature of certain social equations has not changed from what they have been for centuries. Such villages continue to remain what Dr. B.R. Ambedkar called “sinks of localism, dens of ignorance and narrow-mindedness”.

How else could one see certain recent incidents reported from Tumakuru in Karnataka about village barber shops denying haircuts for Dalits, temple festivities remaining out-of-bounds for Dalit families, and other forms of prevalent discrimination? By all accounts these are not isolated incidents. Discrimination against Dalits is widespread and ingrained in the psyche across India, in rural settings in particular.

In some places it takes the form of violent oppression, in others it is disguised yet omnipresent. To be fair, when the incidents in Tumakuru came to notice, the administration took corrective steps immediately. This suggests responsiveness on the part of the state to issues of social justice at least in some cases. But recurring acts and persisting practices against the Dalit community beg the question whether state response and constitutionalism alone are enough to overcome longstanding social injustice and prejudices in India’s villages.

In other words, has political justice — achieved in some respects over time by means of affirmative action — managed to overcome social injustice at all? The alacrity shown by state authorities in the Tumakaru cases reflects to some extent the political power gained by Dalits in India and the efficacy of the rule of law. After all, the Constitution guarantees the right to equality of all citizens and affirmative action for Dalits. Years of following the policy of affirmative action has yielded a high degree of participation and representation of Dalits in politics and in governance. But without progressive social consciousness permeating society at large, constitutionalism, state actions and political equations simply do not suffice. It would help if the political actors who have accommodated Dalits among their party and governance structures, due to the their sheer weight of numbers as a representative section, also believed in and worked as conduits for social transformation.

Perhaps if Dalits were not merely accommodated but were accorded leadership roles in parties, that could aid this process of social activism. A recent study pointed out that barring exceptions such as the Bahujan Samaj Party, the leadership of major political parties suffered from a clear diversity deficit, with Dalits being severely under-represented in the leadership across parties. Being made part of the political leadership — one way of being among the elite in the country — will not by itself guarantee the eradication of social prejudice, but it will be a step in the right direction.
The topic is not about India. I did not post article on what is going on with Pakistani shias or ahmedis or other muslims. you are posting off topic. Post reported
 
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Why are Indians here trying to become the thekedar of Pakistani Hindus .. Pakistan is their country its is up to their society and Govt. How to treat them secondly we have nothing in common with Pakistani Hindus.
sure, there is no need to preach to pakistanis when our treatment to our own minority is hardly anything to write about. However we have humanitarian duty to give asylum to those who seek it. We have special duty to minorities of british India who ended up in wrong place due to plain bad luck, because we agreed to the partition and they are facing the consequences still.
 
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This editorial of the Hindu newspaper of May 11, 2015.

Let us see what is going against your own Low cast Hindus in cultural epicenter of Hinduism called India

This is a light editorial i am not yet posting incidents of injustice to low cast Hindus in India

Discrimination most foul
Editorial on discrimination against Dalits - The Hindu

Close to seven decades after Independence, in many villages of India the nature of certain social equations has not changed from what they have been for centuries. Such villages continue to remain what Dr. B.R. Ambedkar called “sinks of localism, dens of ignorance and narrow-mindedness”.

How else could one see certain recent incidents reported from Tumakuru in Karnataka about village barber shops denying haircuts for Dalits, temple festivities remaining out-of-bounds for Dalit families, and other forms of prevalent discrimination? By all accounts these are not isolated incidents. Discrimination against Dalits is widespread and ingrained in the psyche across India, in rural settings in particular.

In some places it takes the form of violent oppression, in others it is disguised yet omnipresent. To be fair, when the incidents in Tumakuru came to notice, the administration took corrective steps immediately. This suggests responsiveness on the part of the state to issues of social justice at least in some cases. But recurring acts and persisting practices against the Dalit community beg the question whether state response and constitutionalism alone are enough to overcome longstanding social injustice and prejudices in India’s villages.

In other words, has political justice — achieved in some respects over time by means of affirmative action — managed to overcome social injustice at all? The alacrity shown by state authorities in the Tumakaru cases reflects to some extent the political power gained by Dalits in India and the efficacy of the rule of law. After all, the Constitution guarantees the right to equality of all citizens and affirmative action for Dalits. Years of following the policy of affirmative action has yielded a high degree of participation and representation of Dalits in politics and in governance. But without progressive social consciousness permeating society at large, constitutionalism, state actions and political equations simply do not suffice. It would help if the political actors who have accommodated Dalits among their party and governance structures, due to the their sheer weight of numbers as a representative section, also believed in and worked as conduits for social transformation.

Perhaps if Dalits were not merely accommodated but were accorded leadership roles in parties, that could aid this process of social activism. A recent study pointed out that barring exceptions such as the Bahujan Samaj Party, the leadership of major political parties suffered from a clear diversity deficit, with Dalits being severely under-represented in the leadership across parties. Being made part of the political leadership — one way of being among the elite in the country — will not by itself guarantee the eradication of social prejudice, but it will be a step in the right direction.

I can assure you that I can post similar articles about what's going on with Shias and Ahmedia in your country. But the core logic remains the same. This is a question of what historic role India has. India is the heartland of Hinduism so if hindus elsewhere have a problem, we are culturally bound to help them.
 
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sure, there is no need to preach to pakistanis when our treatment to our own minority is hardly anything to write about. However we have humanitarian duty to give asylum to those who seek it. We have special duty to minorities of british India who ended up in wrong place due to plain bad luck, because we agreed to the partition and they are facing the consequences still.
Sure .. not only Pakistani Hindus many Rohingya,Afghanistan and Palestinian refugees living in Delhi ... Jinnah was a Secular so was Nehru ...its a pity minorities feel they were betrayed However less in India.

My point is that us Indians regardless of relegion should be worry about own people.
 
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