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Agreed! Why is it that there is a buttload of yahoo's here that seem to get off everytime they "criticize" the US? and they are not getting banned.. I even said to one to stop listening to propaganda it's screwing hi mind he continued trolling.. to this very day! Oh WELL!!!

again same statement, there is a difference between criticizing people/country and criticizing Creator. You are welcome to criticize Pakistan and we will defend it logically if you are wrong will try to learn if you are right.

For you country and God might be equally important but for us Allah is way above and any disrespect to Allah and our prophets is not accepted. In return we also treat Jesus A.S. with respect.


True that...


Then do not pride yourselves on being open minded.

I was recently banned probably based on your whining about my comment. But if PDF do not want to expand its intellectual base, then people like me should not be allowed. Simple as that.
Sorry sir, you are unnecessarily equating two different things. Intellectually I have a lot of respect for your experience but it never means that you can disrespect my religion. From which angle disrespecting once, religion and belief system is intellectual?
 
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again same statement, there is a difference between criticizing people/country and criticizing Creator. You are welcome to criticize Pakistan and we will defend it logically if you are wrong will try to learn if you are right.

For you country and God might be equally important but for us Allah is way above and any disrespect to Allah and our prophets is not accepted. In return we also treat Jesus A.S. with respect.

First of all we in the US don't get all jacked up when someone criticizes God, Jesus of whoever it may be. We in the US don't cut people's head for telling something about 'em. This is an internet forum every Tom, Dick and Harry has their own ideas and interpretation of their own religion. A dude from the other side of the world can't enforce his beliefs to another dude on the other side. Some dude may not agree with you but this is the world we live in.
 
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First of all we in the US don't get all jacked up when someone criticizes God, Jesus of whoever it may be. We in the US don't cut people's head for telling something about 'em. This is an internet forum every Tom, Dick and Harry has their own ideas and interpretation of their own religion. A dude from the other side of the world can't enforce his beliefs to another dude on the other side. Some dude may not agree with you but this is the world we live in.

Agreed.

Your belief:
"we in the US don't get all jacked up when someone criticizes God, Jesus of whoever it may be"

My response:
"every Tom, Dick and Harry has their own ideas and interpretation of their own religion. A dude from the other side of the world can't enforce his beliefs to another dude on the other side."

So this is my side of the world my forum. I don't like your believes, and therefore I am not willing to move to your country despite having opportunities in the past. Nor does I am joining your forum where you can insult religious figures including Jesus A.S.

You are currently at our forum and you should be decent enough to respect our rules (if not the feelings). How difficult it is to get this simple logic?
 
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You are currently at our forum and you should be decent enough to respect our rules (if not the feelings). How difficult it is to get this simple logic?
In other words, it is a one-way street. We have to respect yours while you can say whatever you want about ours. But then again, I have seen this attitude on this forum since '09, usually from those who are insecure in their beliefs that they seek to silent others.
 
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In other words, it is a one-way street. We have to respect yours while you can say whatever you want about ours. But then again, I have seen this attitude on this forum since '09, usually from those who are insecure in their beliefs that they seek to silent others.

Yes for religion this is one way street.

This is not insecurity but our belief. Its is similar to your belief of freedom of speech and liberalisim.

Cant you accept it as a fact so that we can move ahead?

By the way when did we disrespect your believe system?

You cant merge religion with country. You are open to critisize Pakiatan or any muslim country but not religion
 
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@mods @Arsalan i will be really disappointed if similar warning wasnt issue to @gambit. Infact i think he shoul be banned for a time unless we dont care anymore about Islam and this is a completely secular forum.

@gambit i respected you for your professional knowledge but u dont deserve it.

So much for the 21st century country that cant even control handful of taliban. If you are so powerful and consider yourself above Allah then why dont you push your wrath on Pakistan ? Your think tanks officially blamed for killing your boys ?

Why you started negotiations with Taliban?

Yes we believe in Allah and we will keep on believing Allah and will obey his command. There is not a dime the biggest terrorist nation on the face of earth i.e. America can do about it without its own destruction.

Yes you are the biggest terrorist that killed millions of innocents in Japan, Vitenam, Afghanistan and Middle East and InshAllah your end is not very far away. Do remember these words AllahoAkbar as they will prevail at tye end and no force in the universe can stop it.
That member was issued a warning and it resulted in ban. Please check.

As for the warning issued to @Pakhtoon yum , i have explained it to him in private conversation but if you people want to learn more about it the best option will be for him to open a thread in GHQ, tag me there so i can explain it to him and everyone else. Surely we are not allowed to do whatever we want to without having a proper reason. I have my reasons and will gladly explain them so it helps others learn about this.
 
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There is a slim chance you'd be allowed to go here anyway so you can stay wherever hole you are in then. :usflag::usflag:

Wherever I am, it makes me very happy. I am ending this discussion here as my objective was to restrain people from being disrespectful to my country. Now I am not in a mood in of trolling.

You know nothing about me and you are free to think whatever I am.
 
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Yes for religion this is one way street.

This is not insecurity but our belief. Its is similar to your belief of freedom of speech and liberalisim.
Too bad. If you are in the US, your religion WILL be criticized. Americans do not accept the one-way street argument.
 
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Make sure you whine about my post to the admin staff so I get banned again...:enjoy:

Lolz, kindly don't take it personal. there is no issue in critiizing Pakistan. infact I am and my other brothers are open to listen to religious crticizim (if PDF allows religious discussions) but we can't bear disrespect for our Prophet (SAW) and our creator (Allah which is the same as christian and Jewish creator).

Therefore kindly avoid disrespect to these personalities.
 
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The biggest objection on time traveling and changing past events that I have seen is that;

If time traveling and changing past events was possible people would have destroyed Islam.

Those who raise this objection don't think beyond. They don't imagine that once time traveling and changing past events started it wouldn't stop anywhere. People would change things over and over and over and over and over and over. And people coming after that will further change the things changed by previous generations. This continuous changing of things over and over and over and over and over and over will bring state of perfection and complete bliss.

We are alive is a proof that we are living in final version, and a perfect one. Whatever events happen around us, we may not understand their wisdom but in the far far time ahead and in the end they will have positive outcome.
 
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