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[padamchen]

HIV/AIDS Awareness

Nobel Laureate Nelson Mandela said, "AIDS should not be hidden. On the contrary AIDS needs publicity." The great man practised what he preached. When his own son died of AIDS, he publicly announced it."

I will do my part. I will write in every international forums that Indians brought HIV/AIDS to Kashmir. HIV infected Indian soldiers had been transmitting this essentially Indo-African disease to healthy Kashmiri girls by raping them for eleven years since 1990. HIV test for recruitment to Indian Army began only in 2001. Till then...

@xeuss, @jamahir, @padamchen

- PRTP GWD

Take your meds Gawde.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

HIV infected Indian soldiers had been transmitting this essentially Indo-African disease to healthy Kashmiri girls by raping them for eleven years since 1990.

I know about the Kunan-Poshpora incident but "Indo-African" ?

AIDS certainly began in African chimpanzees and got transmitted to humans by them eating those chimpanzees ( what is called "bush meat" ).

And I know that the American city of San Francisco was a big reservoir of AIDS in the 1980s. I think this was the first international spread of the disease.

 

[Mentee]

@MastanKhan @jamahir @Verve

 

[jamahir]

@MastanKhan @jamahir @Verve

Thanks. It is a long speech so I will listen in parts, over days.

 

[Signalian]

 

[Sine Nomine]

@Vapnope
(Correction: No help was available from Iran in case of KBY.
The Iranian border needs attention. Pakistan and Iran should come up with a joint petrol settlement to ensure that their respective lands are not used against each other.)
That was sarcasm.

 

[Zibago]

Congrats dear. Allah bechari pe rehem kary....
@WebMaster @The Eagle
Dear respected moderators. Somebody from the moderators is continuously changing my location flag, which I don't want to show for security reasons. It is therefore requested that he may please instructed to please not to do that ever again.

Thanks bro

Reham ki duya merey liye ki jiye ga

 

[fitpOsitive]

Thanks bro

Reham ki duya merey liye ki jiye ga

Jigar Hai yar.
But shadi is not race, neither it is wrestling. Its a life long picnic. Take it like that.
Ghaltian maaf kerna, kamzorion ko qabool kerna. Or kbhi apni spouse ko kam ter mehsoos mat kerwana. Achi guzraygi.

 

[padamchen]

So Shehla, Arfa and Rana are not emancipated ?

Also, that 7th century ideology you keep railing against, it was under its laws that the below Indian Christian woman married an Indian Muslim because those laws bettered her socio-economic future in case of divorce :

It goes on :


Please read the rest of the OP and the thread discussion.

What perversion of these laws happen among Indian Muslims, they are just that - perversions. The actual laws are quite progressive, whether about weddings or about property inheritance or other things.

But I want Muslims to meld Islamic laws into the natural successor : Modern Communism.

In Sharia

Are you allowed to marry a girl and consummate the marriage once she starts menstruating?

Are you allowed 4 wives?

Is there any prescribed limit to how many kids you can have with each of those wives?

Is it not very common for the 4 wives of a Muslim male to range in age from peri menopausal to very young?

Is it not possible for a Muslim man to technically keep rolling this quota of 4 wives by utilizing pretty ridiculously easy and male-dominated laws of divorce on the older wives in preference for newer younger wives?

We can move this to a relevant thread if you wish, since its technically off topic on this one.

And not Whatever, so that its buried within a day.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

Are you allowed to marry a girl and consummate the marriage once she starts menstruating?

The Mughal prince Jalaluddin Muhammad ( latterly "Akbar" ) became the emperor at the "underage" age of 14. You should check for the ages of Romeo and Juliet. Different times. Would you be willing to be speak against these ?

BTW, marriage of "underage" girls in India happens more among Hindus than among Muslims.

I have told you before. The Punjab and Haryana High Court passed a judgement allowing 15-year-old Muslim girls to get married.

And if you are willing to talk about modern Western-derived aspects of morality why not you promote another Western-origin thought - Modern Communism ?

Are you allowed 4 wives?

Yes but as long as you can assure them equal comfort and harmony.

Is there any prescribed limit to how many kids you can have with each of those wives?

No, but that is practically limited by the inheritance laws. It won't do to have fifteen children and in senior years make a will that shares minuscule money and estate to each of the children.

Is it not possible for a Muslim man to technically keep rolling this quota of 4 wives by utilizing pretty ridiculously easy and male-dominated laws of divorce on the older wives in preference for newer younger wives?

1. The laws are not male-dominated because not only does a marriage happen with the consent of the woman but a woman can divorce too and remarry. Or remarry a respectable period after widowhood.

2. Historically, by the men, it never happened what you described, except by kings, because the same social respectability factor prevented it.

 

[padamchen]

I have told you before. The Punjab and Haryana High Court passed a judgement allowing 15-year-old Muslim girls to get married.

BTW, marriage of "underage" girls in India happens more among Hindus than among Muslims.

And the Mughal prince Jalaluddin Muhammad ( laterly "Akbar" ) became the emperor at the "underage" age of 14. You should check for the ages of Romeo and Juliet. Or Rama and Sita. Different times. Would you be willing to be speak against these ?

And if you are willing to talk about modern Western-derived aspects of morality why not you promote another Western-origin thought - Modern Communism ?



Yes but as long as you can assure them equal comfort and harmony.



No, but that is practically limited by the inheritance laws. It won't do to have fifteen children and in senior years make a will that shares minuscule money and estate to each of the children.



1. The laws are not male-dominated because not only does a marriage happen with the consent of the woman but a woman can divorce too and remarry. Or remarry a respectable period after widowhood.

2. Historically, by the men, it never happened what you described, except by kings, because the same social respectability prevented it.

So as you see, there is a reason for China and India, already over populated, to be concerned about the Muslim community and its propensity to multiply regardless of economics and national goals.

Hope I have sufficiently proven my point.

And when both governments, in their own way, put a curb to this, the natural direct beneficiaries are the women who have to endure multiple pregnancies and childbirths through their adult age, greatly impacting on their quality of life and health.

Emancipation.

And relief and joy.

Which is what we see clearly on their faces.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

So as you see, there is a reason for China and India, already over populated, to be concerned about the Muslim community and its propensity to multiply regardless of economics and national goals.

So you actually believe in that Hindutvadi allegation against Muslims : "Hum paanch humaare pachchis" ?

And when both governments, in their own way, put a curb to this, the natural direct beneficiaries are the women who have to endure multiple pregnancies and childbirths through their adult age, greatly impacting on their quality of life and health.

Emancipation.

And relief and joy.

Which is what we see clearly on their faces.

What about 80 percent of India's population which remains Hindu ?

 

[padamchen]

So you actually believe in that Hindutvadi allegation against Muslims : "Hum do humaare pachchis" ?

What about 80 percent of India's population which remains Hindu ?

Yes I do. Most of non Muslim India and China does, as you will see on this very forum.

What about them? They are far more educated and sensible and their fertility numbers are now just above replacement level.

Concentrate on yourselves please. Or we will have to do it for you.

Cheers, Doc

 

[jamahir]

Yes I do. Most of non Muslim India and China does, as you will see on this very forum.

That allegation "Hum paanch humaare pachees" was perhaps first used in 2002. In Gujarat. This article speaks about it. It is an "enlightening" article.

What about them? They are far more educated and sensible and their fertility numbers are now just above replacement level.

So all of those 80 percent are progressive, harmonious and communist ?

Concentrate on yourselves please. Or we will have to do it for you.

What does that mean ?

 

[padamchen]

That allegation "Hum paanch humaare pachees" was perhaps first used in 2002. In Gujarat. This article speaks about it. It is an "enlightening" article.

So all of those 80 percent are progressive, harmonious and communist ?

What does that mean ?

Its an euphemism. The bottom line is too many kids, holding the community back. And lack of education and economic opportunities causing a lot of them to go bad.

The 80% are definitely more progressive than the 15%. In terms of harmony, also, they have no other nation to go to. This is it for them. So they behave accordingly.

As an example, you will never find a Hindu @xeuss or @AfrazulMandal ... hope that punches home my point.

What that means is that we will give and have given your community a long rope to assimilate and improve yourselves within the fabric of our society. But there comes a point and there has come a point where we need to take stock of the situation and wonder whether your community has it in them to bring about the change from within.

If not, we need to legislate and make binding by law the desired changes we are looking at.

Triple talaq.

Soon a common civil law.

None of this Sharia business for India thank you.

Cheers, Doc