What will it take for pakistanis...?

[JayAtl]

I see same old arguments but none to resolve moving forward. I do see Kashmir being brought up as an issue.

--- here goes my question-----

1. Do you care about Kashmir as a Land issue or People issue?
2. where are willing to compromise on it?

and for the people who took issue with my same blood running in our veins and forefather statement. I simply meant if you do a genealogy study we have a common origination. Is it naive to say we share cultural similarities and a heritage.

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

indians should stop killing/raping Kashmiris, and give them the freedom they want from your illegal occupation.

 

[Omar1984]

Are u trying to say Indians are obsessed with pakistan??
just look at yourself.
see your signature.i find too many pakistanis in this forum using the word India in their signature.

have u seen an Indian like that ???.

I have seen much worse from indians. Atleast I gave a neutral source based on facts while in your indian forums you think of stupid scenarios on how to destroy Pakistan or take Pakistan over.

i guess no. So its clear now who is obsessed with whom and regarding indians here, there are just too many internet users here (i think thrice) than pakistan who are ready to defend my country on internet.

See how many indians are in this forum and compare it with Pakistanis. Whose obsessed? Who opened this thread? an indian.

Please tell your artists and cricketers, not to come here. And stop watching bollywood and indian serials and stop reading TOI also.

And you tell your indian bollywood to stop stealing our songs.

Dude no one is interested (except for right wing hindus),even if u give pakistan on platter.I think we are better off without them. I cant imagine the chaos of unification..

Tell your fellow indians who open threads like this one. We Pakistanis rather unite with Nigeria than unite with india.

but you are already close to India(yahi to panauti hai). tell me how many pakistanis living in europe or US have chinese or palestenians or arab or irani friends.its just the blood ties and culture that makes them more close to Indians...

I live in US and I rather be friends with African Americans here than be friends with indians.

But more than 50% pakistanis share the ethnicity with Indians.

Atleast indians punjabis and pakistani punjabis have the same blood.
can u deny ??
Same can be said about about Sindhis.
India is way more diverse, punjabis and tamils are different. So is a gujrati,bihari,marathi,bengali,kashmiri.

Punjabis make 45% of Pakistan's Population while Punjabis make only 3% of India's Population and we Pakistanis call them Khalistanis

And Pakistani Punjabis are much more diverse than Indian Punjabis. Most Indian Punjabis are Jatts while we have clans like Gilani, Maliks, Syyed, Qureshi, etc who share nothing in common with Indian Punjabis.

And the only Sindhis india has are the sindhi hindus that migrated from Pakistan to india after partition and they dont even make 1% of india's population.

What about the 96% of india's population who are nothing like Pakistanis.

Religion or no Religion, Pakistan stays.

 

[divya]

Emotional and sentimental verbal diarrhea.If you think GOI lies then ok lets start with doing following things.....
1. Withdraw forces and conduct Plebiscite in Jammu and Kashmir under the watch of UN.
2.Withdraw from siachen
3.Withdraw from kutch.
4.Withdraw from Junagadh.
5.Withdraw from Hyderabad(Deccan) (that includes whole area of Nizam kingdom pre-1947 period)
6.Restore Goa,Pondy Sikkim to their original people.
7.Free away North east and restore greater bengal to its pre-july 1905 position.
8.Vacate northeast.
9.Stop the Genocides of Minorities and Dalitis,maoist,tribals and punish all those involved in previous riots-kamal nath,sajjan kumar, jagdish tytler,narender modi,uma bharati,L.K advani,kalyan singh.
10.Half th strnght of A,In,IAF.
11.CRE(cap,rollback,eliminate indian nukes.And allow all indian nuke related facilities and its defence sector (HAL,NAL,ADA,DRDO,ISRO) ,BHABA atomic research centers and their subsidiaries to be periodically inspected by international watch group.
12.Stop causing air pollution by burning cow dung cakes and sign climatte change accord.bring down carbon footprints india.
13.Stop polluting transboundary rivers like ganges,braham putra,sutle,ravi,beas by pouring industrial/human wastes in them especially dead bodies and tons of human cremated ashes in Ganges.
14. dont build dams on transbounday rivers let them flow naturally.

Anyone else wants to add to the list of demands to be made to india is most welcome.I can think of only these.

Most imposrtant and not the least:STOP Calling Sania traitor.

Ok forwarded your peaceful settlement request. they said

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Emotional and sentimental verbal diarrhea.If you think GOI lies then ok lets start with doing following things.....
1. Withdraw forces and conduct Plebiscite in Jammu and Kashmir under the watch of UN.
2.Withdraw from siachen
3.Withdraw from kutch.
4.Withdraw from Junagadh.
5.Withdraw from Hyderabad(Deccan) (that includes whole area of Nizam kingdom pre-1947 period)
6.Restore Goa,Pondy Sikkim to their original people.
7.Free away North east and restore greater bengal to its pre-july 1905 position.
8.Vacate northeast.
9.Stop the Genocides of Minorities and Dalitis,maoist,tribals and punish all those involved in previous riots-kamal nath,sajjan kumar, jagdish tytler,narender modi,uma bharati,L.K advani,kalyan singh.
10.Half th strnght of A,In,IAF.
11.CRE(cap,rollback,eliminate indian nukes.And allow all indian nuke related facilities and its defence sector (HAL,NAL,ADA,DRDO,ISRO) ,BHABA atomic research centers and their subsidiaries to be periodically inspected by international watch group.
12.Stop causing air pollution by burning cow dung cakes and sign climatte change accord.bring down carbon footprints india.
13.Stop polluting transboundary rivers like ganges,braham putra,sutle,ravi,beas by pouring industrial/human wastes in them especially dead bodies and tons of human cremated ashes in Ganges.
14. dont build dams on transbounday rivers let them flow naturally.

Anyone else wants to add to the list of demands to be made to india is most welcome.I can think of only these.

Most imposrtant and not the least:STOP Calling Sania traitor.

These 14 points? Well, let me put forward my counter offer of 14 points. Pakistan should:

1. Withdraw all forces from Occupied Kashmir.
2. Give freedom to Gilgit-Baltistan
3. Vacate Balochistan
4. Capture and return Dawood Ibrahim, Maulana Masood Azhar etc.
5. Have a non-punjabi ruler
6. Rein in 'non-state actors'
7. Rein in its rouge military, including ISI and other intelligence agencies
8. Bring the armed forces under the civilian government
9. Punish the armed forces for its attrocities in Bangladesh
10. Give 500 million billion gazillion dollars to bangladesh for war crimes committed in 1971
11. Give similar amounts to Afghanistan and India in lieu of training and fueling fanatic islamic insurgency in these nations
12. Give death sentence to ALL those who leaked nuclear technology
13. Death sentences to Musharraf etc. for instigating war with India in 1999.
14. Take back Geelani, Arundhati Roy, and Ajtr.

You know what, maybe just the last point will be enough.

 

[justanobserver]

Let me repost:

Ok certain arguments will be put forth

Quote:

We have the same blood running through our veins. Like it or not, we have a bond that cannot be denied and is stronger than any politics. A bond that that is older than any other civilization.

There will certain Pakistani who will say that they're a unique and different people and Turko Mongo land what not. Please please don't bring this into the argument, if you feel like this then don't comment

Quote:

I have question and challenge for you to ponder : What will it take to normalize relationships?

The answer will be Kashmir. Wait, please listen, no I'm not going to quote Europe, but Asian countries. China and Japan, they've been civilizational enemies, and well all know what happened in WWII. STILL they at-least have excellent economic relaions. So people think first

(who knows this might even turn into an intelligent discussion)
(and no the poster is NOT talking about re-unification, so keep the akhand bharat BS out)

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

Are u trying to say Indians are obsessed with pakistan??
just look at yourself.
see your signature.i find too many pakistanis in this forum using the word India in their signature.

have u seen an Indian like that ???

i guess no. So its clear now who is obsessed with whom and regarding indians here, there are just too many internet users here (i think thrice) than pakistan who are ready to defend my country on internet.

Please tell your artists and cricketers, not to come here. And stop watching bollywood and indian serials and stop reading TOI also.



Dude no one is interested (except for right wing hindus),even if u give pakistan on platter.I think we are better off without them. I cant imagine the chaos of unification.






but you are already close to India(yahi to panauti hai). tell me how many pakistanis living in europe or US have chinese or palestenians or arab or irani friends.its just the blood ties and culture that makes them more close to Indians.


But more than 50% pakistanis share the ethnicity with Indians.

Atleast indians punjabis and pakistani punjabis have the same blood.
can u deny ??
Same can be said about about Sindhis.
India is way more diverse, punjabis and tamils are different. So is a gujrati,bihari,marathi,bengali,kashmiri.

LOL, @ your first reply

Punjabis in india are less than 3% of the indian population, and even they feel ashamed to be associated with indians, so what makes you think we wanna be associated with you guys ?. Sindhis are not even 1% of indian population.

 

[Fact_ur_mine]

I have seen much worse from indians. Atleast I gave a neutral source based on facts while in your indian forums you think of stupid scenarios on how to destroy Pakistan or take Pakistan over.



See how many indians are in this forum and compare it with Pakistanis. Whose obsessed? Who opened this thread? an indian.




And you tell your indian bollywood to stop stealing our songs.

YouTube - India Bollywood's Plagiarism of Pakistani Music - Part 1

YouTube - India Bollywood's Plagiarism of Pakistani Music - Part 17






Tell your fellow indians who open threads like this one. We Pakistanis rather unite with Nigeria than unite with india.





I live in US and I rather be friends with African Americans here than be friends with indians.




Punjabis make 45% of Pakistan's Population while Punjabis make only 3% of India's Population and we Pakistanis call them Khalistanis

And Pakistani Punjabis are much more diverse than Indian Punjabis. Most Indian Punjabis are Jatts while we have clans like Gilani, Maliks, Syyed, Qureshi, etc who share nothing in common with Indian Punjabis.

And the only Sindhis india has are the sindhi hindus that migrated from Pakistan to india after partition and they dont even make 1% of india's population.

What about the 96% of india's population are nothing like Pakistanis.

Religion or no Religion, Pakistan stays.

****YAWN**** Dont you get bored with same old story again and again..

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

@ Topic

JayAtl, nice try. But the problem is that you initiated peace in a forum targeted at Pakistani Military, whose very existance stems from spreading hatred towards India.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Are Indians interested in peace so they can sleep with Pakistani women (cause they look better than Indian ones)?

Is that why you preserve them in tents and prefer goats/camels?

 

[SMC]

Is that why you preserve them in tents and prefer goats/camels?

That's not true. There's a reason why Pakistan's fertility rate is higher.

 

[Fact_ur_mine]

Are Indians interested in peace so they can sleep with Pakistani women (cause they look better than Indian ones)?

Thanks for Offering your Women
After all we would give them much needed RELIEF from you know wht

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Well, you might not, but I am big enough to apologise for my statement.

This thread has been totally derailed. Better to close it.

 

[divya]

I have seen much worse from indians. Atleast I gave a neutral source based on facts while in your indian forums you think of stupid scenarios on how to destroy Pakistan or take Pakistan over.

Hope you forgot other pakistani forums and nuclear dodos around.

See how many indians are in this forum and compare it with Pakistanis. Whose obsessed? Who opened this thread? an indian.

If talking about peace is obsession. Dont know of guys who blow up themselves yes we are obsessed with such concepts.

And you tell your indian bollywood to stop stealing our songs.

YouTube - India Bollywood's Plagiarism of Pakistani Music - Part 1

YouTube - India Bollywood's Plagiarism of Pakistani Music - Part 17

Should i give u example where pakistan has copied from indian media or would you like to help yourself with google.

Tell your fellow indians who open threads like this one. We Pakistanis rather unite with Nigeria than unite with india.

Why Nigeria. Try Bangladesh first.
And who said we want to unite with Pakistan, in current scenerio forget India even Somalia will twice before this concept of unification.

I live in US and I rather be friends with African Americans here than be friends with indians.

Still fail to understand you were taunting indians here or African Americans.

Punjabis make 45% of Pakistan's Population while Punjabis make only 3% of India's Population and we Pakistanis call them Khalistanis

Another dead wet dream. Oh by the way we call East pakistan as bangladesh.... oops it is bangladesh.

And Pakistani Punjabis are much more diverse than Indian Punjabis. Most Indian Punjabis are Jatts while we have clans like Gilani, Maliks, Syyed, Qureshi, etc who share nothing in common with Indian Punjabis.

Come to Indian punjab guranteed you will diversity within 100 km as you move.

And the only Sindhis india has are the sindhi hindus that migrated from Pakistan to india after partition and they dont even make 1% of india's population.

What about the 96% of india's population who are nothing like Pakistanis.

Religion or no Religion, Pakistan stays.

Good luck with that.

 

[Omar1984]

Are Indians interested in peace so they can sleep with Pakistani women (cause they look better than Indian ones)?

why would anyone want to be associated with indians?

they dont even give respect to their bollywood stars.