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What is your idea of an Islamic state?

pros and cons have been discussed many times...

No..no scholarly discourse, no pros and cons, but the individual's idea, what actually comes to his mind when he says 'I want an Islamic state'. Plz read the op carefully.
 
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Islam is a code of conduct, which most of us term as religion. It defines right from wrong and provides a guideline to be better human being. Quran gives message to all mankind as evident through words like Ya Ayuhan Nas. It describes the qualities and qualification of Muslim and Momin and then addresses those individuals who fulfill the requirement. It discusses different believers of different religions. It clearly segregates between rights of Allah and rights of society, generally known as Human Rights. It also states that Rights of Allah is between the Creator and Creation, which he can pardon at will. The thing which will not be pardoned is violation of Human Rights or rights of the society. Therefore, Islamic state is the one which has a blend of people discussed in Quran i.e. Momin, Muslim, Mushrik, Kafir and in general mankind; yet live peacefully. They abide by the code of conduct to live in a society or community. Those who discharge their duties towards the creator as prescribed and described in their respective religion or belief. It is a state where Muslims are not by name only, rather they possess the qualities outlined for different categories of Muslims.

It gives a comprehensive financial system, which is neither capitalism nor socialism or communism. History has proved that all type of economic systems have failed. Yet no one has thoroughly research on Islamic economic system, which is not merely an interest free system. It is again a complete code where rights of employee and employer have been defined. It is a system which is a blend of all the economic systems, thus supporting the concept of balance (Adl).

An Islamic state is certainly not what Taliban or any of the present Islamic Republics/Kingdoms propose and impose. It is certainly something so magnanimous that superficial interpreters cannot comprehend and decipher. Only way an Islamic State can exist in true letter in spirit is by understanding the underlying philosophies and not superficial translations and commentaries.

An Islamic State is the one where there is no cheating, bribery, stealing, lying, hypocrisy, fraud, violation of human rights, profiteering, adulteration, and absence of the seven deadly sins. Abstinence not by force but by will of individuals. Where there is peace and manners of co-existence. In short an Islamic State is not declared but evolved through character of individuals living in that state. @batmannow @Hosseini @hinduguy @Skallagrim

islam is wysiwyg
 
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IMO A state full of tharkis full of pubs, bars, discos, late night events, rave parties, drug addicts etc :D
 
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something like Malaysia i'd say for the current situation of the world but normally, what panther said
 
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ON A SUNDAY in early June Muhammad Qatta, a roadside coffee-seller in the Syrian city of Aleppo, refused to serve a would-be freeloader. Even the prophet himself would have to pay, he said. Some bearded rebel fighters overheard him. Crying blasphemy, they shot him dead. Muhammad was 15 years old.

Justice in an Islamic State.


Cool bed time story bro...
 
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Islamic state is the one, where head of state had been Military commander, had taken part in battles and wars.

You can't have a politician or cricketer, as head of state in Islamic state.
 
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An Islamic state with no corruption, stealing and all that is absolutely impossible, especially for a country like Pakistan hence looking to Turkey and changing a bit like adding some values of secularism and values of Islamic point of view is the way forward.

We have thousands of people using religion for their own gain/benefit so the idea of a pure Islamic state with Shariah sounds like a very bad idea to me. People interpret religion in their own way which will cause problems.

What we need is a country where each and every religion can coexist without crazy idiots running around like headless chickens and spreading fear and hatred.
 
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ON A SUNDAY in early June Muhammad Qatta, a roadside coffee-seller in the Syrian city of Aleppo, refused to serve a would-be freeloader. Even the prophet himself would have to pay, he said. Some bearded rebel fighters overheard him. Crying blasphemy, they shot him dead. Muhammad was 15 years old.

Justice in an Islamic State.

ON A FRIDAY in early... refused to serve a hobo. Even Steve Jobs would have to pay, he said. Some bearded hipsters heard him. Crying blasphemy, they instagrammed him a funneh maymay.

Justice in a swagless state.
 
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Islam is a code of conduct, which most of us term as religion. It defines right from wrong and provides a guideline to be better human being. Quran gives message to all mankind as evident through words like Ya Ayuhan Nas. It describes the qualities and qualification of Muslim and Momin and then addresses those individuals who fulfill the requirement. It discusses different believers of different religions. It clearly segregates between rights of Allah and rights of society, generally known as Human Rights. It also states that Rights of Allah is between the Creator and Creation, which he can pardon at will. The thing which will not be pardoned is violation of Human Rights or rights of the society. Therefore, Islamic state is the one which has a blend of people discussed in Quran i.e. Momin, Muslim, Mushrik, Kafir and in general mankind; yet live peacefully. They abide by the code of conduct to live in a society or community. Those who discharge their duties towards the creator as prescribed and described in their respective religion or belief. It is a state where Muslims are not by name only, rather they possess the qualities outlined for different categories of Muslims.

It gives a comprehensive financial system, which is neither capitalism nor socialism or communism. History has proved that all type of economic systems have failed. Yet no one has thoroughly research on Islamic economic system, which is not merely an interest free system. It is again a complete code where rights of employee and employer have been defined. It is a system which is a blend of all the economic systems, thus supporting the concept of balance (Adl).

An Islamic state is certainly not what Taliban or any of the present Islamic Republics/Kingdoms propose and impose. It is certainly something so magnanimous that superficial interpreters cannot comprehend and decipher. Only way an Islamic State can exist in true letter in spirit is by understanding the underlying philosophies and not superficial translations and commentaries.

An Islamic State is the one where there is no cheating, bribery, stealing, lying, hypocrisy, fraud, violation of human rights, profiteering, adulteration, and absence of the seven deadly sins. Abstinence not by force but by will of individuals. Where there is peace and manners of co-existence. In short an Islamic State is not declared but evolved through character of individuals living in that state. @batmannow @Hosseini @hinduguy @Skallagrim

1. I believe a nation state should not be based on any religion, neither its economy or laws. Religion should remain a personal matter of believers and their God.

2. Panther 57, what you wrote sounds really good, but I am sure you know that it is utterly utopian. If that is the case, then no Islamic state would ever exist. I wonder if even Prophet himself could achieve that. :)

3. In present scenario, the idea of an "Islamic State" only brings out negative perceptions.
 
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I don't think any fixed ideology can manage to cope with a fast changing world. A fixed ideology is based on circumstances of the era it was created and when it is applied in a different period of time, it will fail miserably. Just like it's impossible to form a communist state now.
 
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