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Quite right. Not a caste at all, just means of distinguished Arab descent. Actually, I am told that Arains too are Arabs.

I do not know about Arain but I have heard about the Baloch being Arab decedents that someone mentioned.

My family tree located in Allo Mahar Sharif, Sailkot Pakistan.

The last Arab in my family was Syed Jawan Shah. Afterwards everyone who came after identifies themselves as Punjabi's although we do value our Syed roots for obvious reasons.

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No, no, I meant that among Vaidyas only. Niyogi is known in other places as well, so is Vaidya. More accurately we are Ambasthas; I didn't want to confuse people. These are not very well known facts.

Guptas, except in Bengal, are banias. All over the north, Andhra and Karnataka as well. Another name that is duplicated. In the north, I would have people come up to me and say very seriously, Mai bhi agarwal hoon! Aaaaaargh!

Thanks for the clarification joe, regarding gupta's yes i know them as traders in my home town vijayawada there is a trading place where most businesses are located. There are some gupta's in gold business and some other general trade. I always thought the same whenever talking of gupta dynasty how the hell did traders become kings?? In my previous company in Mumbai one sachin agarwal was always proud of being an agarwal, never understood who they were?

Regarding vaidya's i came to know about this caste only after u posted and i wiki'd.

One's head must be swirling thinking of so many castes and practically vomiting thinking of gotra's and other break down. My god whoever designed them must be admired atleast for preparing such elaborate break down which is mind numbing. Ofcourse we would break his head now for all this jhamela.
 
Joe Shearer are you some kind of intellectual or something, I always get that feeling from reading your posts. :coffee:
 
You are jumping the bridges...

You did not say anything about schedule castes ?
Are they listed due to caste hierarchy or educational/financial backwardness ? Yes or No

I remember reading that Mr. Ambedkar formulated this class on those who were socially backward in both senses. Also u must know that backwardness in educational doesn't mean u are backward socially right as ur money would make up for u especially in a country like India??
 
Feel free. I have no reservations.

I didn't know what Gotra meant, till I just googled it now.

Apparently my tribe also has many gotras.


That's very interesting, can you give me a URL?

OK, those are not gotras, those are sub-clans or sub-sects. Gotra is restricted to descent from a common ancestor, usually one of the rishis. That is the theory. In practical terms, they were totemic societies within a clan. A gotra name is Dhanvantari, Maudgalya, Kashyap, and so on. For lack of a better name, lots of castes and tribes have adopted the term gotra to describe their sub.-divisions.
 
Joe Shearer are you some kind of intellectual or something, I always get that feeling from reading your posts. :coffee:

Joe is a walking talking posting encyclopedia, when u have any doubt ask sir Joe :P

He gets angry at being called sir, he wants to think he is young :angel:
 
Joe Shearer are you some kind of intellectual or something, I always get that feeling from reading your posts. :coffee:

What's with you lot today?

First, some kid calls me a professor, I gag and choke and she relents and calls me a retired professor! Ouch!

And now you.

What did I do to you? Tell me and I'll Apologise, on my knees.
 
That's very interesting, can you give me a URL?

OK, those are not gotras, those are sub-clans or sub-sects. Gotra is restricted to descent from a common ancestor, usually one of the rishis. That is the theory. In practical terms, they were totemic societies within a clan. A gotra name is Dhanvantari, Maudgalya, Kashyap, and so on. For lack of a better name, lots of castes and tribes have adopted the term gotra to describe their sub.-divisions.

Just remembered, I'm from Aliman gotra. Does that make me a kulin?
 
I remember reading that Mr. Ambedkar formulated this class on those who were socially backward in both senses. Also u must know that backwardness in educational doesn't mean u are backward socially right as ur money would make up for u especially in a country like India??

True ..

But let this castist (Joe ) answer this ..

Who claim there is no more Kshatriya ... Only baniya-battu remain ..
 
Joe is a walking talking posting encyclopedia, when u have any doubt ask sir Joe :P

He gets angry at being called sir, he wants to think he is young :angel:

Et tu, brute?

That was a real stab in the back. "Then die, Caesar."
 
That's very interesting, can you give me a URL?

OK, those are not gotras, those are sub-clans or sub-sects. Gotra is restricted to descent from a common ancestor, usually one of the rishis. That is the theory. In practical terms, they were totemic societies within a clan. A gotra name is Dhanvantari, Maudgalya, Kashyap, and so on. For lack of a better name, lots of castes and tribes have adopted the term gotra to describe their sub.-divisions.


It was from an article about Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi.

An Arain freedom fighter
 
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