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What if China and US went on a Full scale war ?

This boils down to following:

1. What are the objectives
2. How far US, in particular, is willing to accomplish the above

At present, a conventional clash of limited-scale is expected between the two sides and American war-machine will steamroll Chinese war-machine in that. The outcome would be (more or less) similar even in a full-scale conventional clash between the two sides spanning over a large geographic area and/or several states. Anybody who assumes otherwise, is deluding himself or is ignorant of disparity in the military capability of both.

However, what comes next? Would US consider a regime-change (or) destruction of Chinese cities and Industrial capability (or) both?

I don't think a long-term invasion of Chinese mainland is a good idea since the odds of nuclear war would increase manifold after that and it may not even be a sustainable goal given the costs of logistics and the sheer size of Chinese population and its willingness to offer resistance. However, US might look for ways to inflict huge losses on Chinese population by destroying Three Gorges Dam (as pointed out by another member) and major population centers.

If US is hellbent on devastating China, it will have to consider all options on the table including a nuclear strike of massive proportions in order to neutralize Chinese nuclear assets in advance. Even if US succeeds in ending China as a civilization and a state, a large number of nuclear strikes would pollute the global environment for years to come. And I am not sure if that is an ideal outcome. Their is also the probability of US loosing a few cities of its own in a nuclear exchange.

In conclusion, a full-scale war between US and China is absolutely unlikely until nuclear weapons become obsolete and new means of mass destruction are pioneered. Secondly, two of the largest economies duking it out, implies global economic recession. So.... take off your seat belts please.
 
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This boils down to following:

1. What are the objectives
2. How far US, in particular, is willing to accomplish the above

At present, a conventional clash of limited-scale is expected between the two sides and American war-machine will steamroll Chinese war-machine in that. The outcome would be (more or less) similar even in a full-scale conventional clash between the two sides spanning over a large geographic area and/or several states. Anybody who assumes otherwise, is deluding himself or is ignorant of disparity in the military capability of both.

However, what comes next? Would US consider a regime-change (or) destruction of Chinese cities and Industrial capability (or) both?

I don't think a long-term invasion of Chinese mainland is a good idea since the odds of nuclear war would increase manifold after that and it may not even be a sustainable goal given the costs of logistics and the sheer size of Chinese population and its willingness to offer resistance. However, US might look for ways to inflict huge losses on Chinese population by destroying Three Gorges Dam (as pointed out by a another member) and major population centers.

If US is hellbent on devastating China, it will have to consider all options on the table including a nuclear strike of massive proportions in order to neutralize Chinese nuclear assets in advance. Even if US succeeds in ending China as a civilization and a state, a large number of nuclear strikes would pollute the global environment for years to come. And I am not sure if that is an ideal outcome. Their is also the probability of US loosing a few cities of its own in a nuclear exchange.

In conclusion, a full-scale war between US and China is absolutely unlikely until nuclear weapons become obsolete and new means of mass destruction are pioneered. Secondly, two of the largest economies duking it out, implies global economic recession. So.... take off your seat belts please.

Heh, you do realise your first two point is the enternal riddle for strategist thinker.

A Strategic Goal of a war is always depends on the reason for war. How to fight is proportional to why you fight. And to begin with, for any strategic thinker, you are given an hypothetical situation, but in that situation, if a reason to fight is not given, you cannot set up your second point, which is how far you want to go? Without knowing these, there are no way for anyone to plot their strategy.

A War can never simply be a war, the objective is depending on how far you are willing to go in a war.
 
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Destruction of PLAN & PLAAF.

You do know on another thread, some Chinese member tell me it was the USN and USAF who will be decimated.

THe poster specifically said the Chinese will launch 75 DF-26 and kills every AEGIS desroyer and the USAF is nothing without GPS system where it will be taken out by Chinese ASAT at the begining. Even tho GPS Satellite is in MEO (1000+ Km above earth) and ASAT only goes up to 100 KM range...... lol
 
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Lets citation talk:

You do know on another thread, some Chinese member tell me it was the USN and USAF who will be decimated.

THe poster specifically said the Chinese will launch 75 DF-26 and kills every AEGIS desroyer and the USAF is nothing without GPS system where it will be taken out by Chinese ASAT at the begining.

ASAT could disrupt satellite constellation - not a science fiction.

Citation 1:
RAND said: "Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025


Even tho GPS Satellite is in MEO (1000+ Km above earth) and ASAT only goes up to 100 KM range...... lol

ASAT could reach beyond 100km range. Even there is one that can reach 18,000 miles range :cheers:

Citation 2:

Dong Neng series

On 13 May 2013, the PRC conducted a test launched from Xichang Satellite Launch Center referred to as 'Kunpeng-7.[28] The object was launched on a 32 deg inclination south east path to a high sub-orbit altitude of more than 18,600 miles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAT_program_of_China

Citation 3:
The 2013 test, which reached 18,600 miles into space, was first reported by the Washington Free Beacon.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-anti-satellite-missile/
 
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Lets citation talk:



ASAT could disrupt satellite constellation - not a science fiction.

Citation 1:
RAND said: "Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025




ASAT could reach beyond 100km range. Even there is one that can reach 18,000 miles range :cheers:

Citation 2:

Dong Neng series

On 13 May 2013, the PRC conducted a test launched from Xichang Satellite Launch Center referred to as 'Kunpeng-7.[28] The object was launched on a 32 deg inclination south east path to a high sub-orbit altitude of more than 18,600 miles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAT_program_of_China

Citation 3:
The 2013 test, which reached 18,600 miles into space, was first reported by the Washington Free Beacon.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-anti-satellite-missile/

That is because RAND Did not said that, you (and the author) took RAND article out of the context. You are either misunderstanding or have not even check what RAND said.

This is the original RAND report quoted by "We Are Mighty website". Not the word twisted version it quote from "We Are Mighty"

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html

But, by 2025, that gap could be much smaller. Even then, however, China could not be confident of gaining military advantage, which suggests the possibility of a prolonged and destructive, yet inconclusive, war. In that event, nonmilitary factors — economic costs, internal political effects, and international reactions — could become more important.
Although a war would harm both economies, damage to China's would be far worse.

I will apologise and eat my word if you can find what you said in the RAND file.

Rand is talking about how China will improve their odds, still is going to lose in a war with the US in 2025, however, since the Chinese technological advance, the losses will be decrease, yet will inflict more American Losses.

The Article by RAND is taken out of context by the author, and subsequently by you. RAND never even touchs GPS system in its article (it mentioned some in regard to war fighting capacity)

To response to "We Are Mighty" point [NOT FROM RAND]

There are an article by an American Admiral that said "If DF-21 if indeed can carry out like that was advertised. The missile would be indestrucrtable." That does not mean DF-21 is indestructible, rather, they express the opinion saying DF-21 is not indestructible.

RAND said, the destruction of American GPS satellite would be "Problematic". However, it did not illustrate how can the destruction of Satellite Constellation is possible nor would that be an apporiate solution to the answer. I can say Laser Weaponry can create problem to Chinese Missile Technology, does that mean that is the case?

This article in the diplomat detail how limited ASAT can carry out the disruption of GPS/Satellite capability. It detail how and why ASAT become insequential. You can denied that but you have not show any degree on how Satellite works.

Shooting down a dead satellite that you can no longer control is different than shooting down a manned Satellite where you can change planar detail and inclination. Do tell me, how a missile can hit a satellite 20,000km above the earth when the satellite can change their axis? Not to mention Satellite comes with Decoy and Countermeasure.

In short, you are living in a dreamland to say ASAT is useful.
 
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That is because RAND Did not said that, you (and the author) took RAND article out of the context. You are either misunderstanding or have not even check what RAND said.

This is the original RAND report quoted by "We Are Mighty website". Not the word twisted version it quote from "We Are Mighty"

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html

LOLs.

In fact there is no RAND statement there saying that ASAT is not possible to destruct satellite as you said/claim. It is your own perception (fantasy) because you believe what you want to believe.


If you said that site twisting RAND says, you should show RAND statement that say the opposite.

I will apologise and eat my word if you can find what you said in the RAND file.

Rand is talking about how China will improve their odds, still is going to lose in a war with the US in 2025, however, since the Chinese technological advance, the losses will be decrease, yet will inflict more American Losses.

The Article by RAND is taken out of context by the author, and subsequently by you. RAND never even touchs GPS system in its article (it mentioned some in regard to war fighting capacity)

To response to "We Are Mighty" point [NOT FROM RAND]

There are an article by an American Admiral that said "If DF-21 if indeed can carry out like that was advertised. The missile would be indestrucrtable." That does not mean DF-21 is indestructible, rather, they express the opinion saying DF-21 is not indestructible.

RAND said, the destruction of American GPS satellite would be "Problematic". However, it did not illustrate how can the destruction of Satellite Constellation is possible nor would that be an apporiate solution to the answer. I can say Laser Weaponry can create problem to Chinese Missile Technology, does that mean that is the case?

This article in the diplomat detail how limited ASAT can carry out the disruption of GPS/Satellite capability. It detail how and why ASAT become insequential. You can denied that but you have not show any degree on how Satellite works.

Shooting down a dead satellite that you can no longer control is different than shooting down a manned Satellite where you can change planar detail and inclination. Do tell me, how a missile can hit a satellite 20,000km above the earth when the satellite can change their axis? Not to mention Satellite comes with Decoy and Countermeasure.

In short, you are living in a dreamland to say ASAT is useful.

You should apologize and eat your word, if you can't prove that RAND said the opposite to what quoted in that site.

Read again in red color please:

This is what RAND said:
"Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."
http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025
I am still waiting your evidence. So far i a discussing with you - I am barraged with claims withoud proper evidence from you.

You cant slender that site nor accusing Logan Mighty for twisting RAND statement - just because you dont want to hear what you dont want to hear, you need to bring EVIDENCE. Slender is immoral.
 
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LOLs.

In fact there is no RAND statement there saying that ASAT is not possible to destruct satellite as you said/claim. It is your own perception (fantasy) because you believe what you want to believe.

If you said that site twisting RAND says, you should show RAND statement that say the opposite.

You should apologize and eat your word, if you can't prove that RAND said the opposite to what quoted in that site.

Well, using your own word, aren't you are the one supposed to show proof that RAND did said that? Afterall this is your claim, you claim this is what RAND said.

PLEASE DO SHOW ME WHERE IN THE RAND ARTICLE SAID THE ABOVE MENTIONED STATMENT. OTHERWISE PLEASE APOLOGISE FOR MISLEADING MEMBER IN PDF


Read again in red color please:

This is what RAND said:
"Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."
http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025
I am still waiting your evidence. So far i a discussing with you - I am barraged with claims withoud proper evidence from you.

You cant slender that site nor accusing Logan Mighty for twisting RAND statement - just because you dont want to hear what you dont want to hear, you need to bring EVIDENCE. Slender is immoral.

Piosting fake claim does not make you go anywhere.

RAND NEVER SAID THAT, I have gave you the report that article purport, look for it and if you can find it did said that and I missed, I will eat my word and apologise. Otherwise, you need to apologise if you cannot back up your claim.

LOLs.

In fact there is no RAND statement there saying that ASAT is not possible to destruct satellite as you said/claim. It is your own perception (fantasy) because you believe what you want to believe.


If you said that site twisting RAND says, you should show RAND statement that say the opposite.



You should apologize and eat your word, if you can't prove that RAND said the opposite to what quoted in that site.

Read again in red color please:

This is what RAND said:
"Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."
http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025
I am still waiting your evidence. So far i a discussing with you - I am barraged with claims withoud proper evidence from you.

You cant slender that site nor accusing Logan Mighty for twisting RAND statement - just because you dont want to hear what you dont want to hear, you need to bring EVIDENCE. Slender is immoral.

Here are the full report from RAND, please point out where it said the highlighted Word you said??

David C. Gompert, Astrid Stuth Cevallos, Cristina L. Garafola
War with China
Thinking Through the Unthinkable
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Preface
War between the United States and China could be so ruinous for both
countries, for East Asia, and for the world that it might seem unthinkable.
Yet it is not: China and the United States are at loggerheads over
several regional disputes that could lead to military confrontation or
even violence between them. Both countries have large concentrations
of military forces operating in close proximity. If an incident
occurred or a crisis overheated, both have an incentive to strike enemy
forces before being struck by them. And if hostilities erupted, both
have ample forces, technology, industrial might, and personnel to fight
across vast expanses of land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace. Thus, Sino-
U.S. war, perhaps a large and costly one, is not just thinkable; it needs
more thought.
In the United States—as, evidently, in China—systematic analysis
of war has been the province of war planners. This is not good
enough, for war planners are concerned mainly with how to gain military
advantage, not how to avoid economic and political damage. Yet
the consequences of war could go far beyond military success and failure:
The world economy could be rocked, and international order, such
as it is, could be shattered. Because the scope and effects of a Sino-U.S.
war could be much wider than the scope of military planning for such
a war, it is crucial to think and plan much more expansively than we
have in the past.
At the same time, improvements in Chinese military capabilities
mean that a war would not necessarily go the way U.S. war planners
plan it. Whereas a clear U.S. victory once seemed probable, it is
increasingly likely that a conflict could involve inconclusive fighting
iv War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
with steep losses on both sides. The United States cannot expect to control
a conflict it cannot dominate militarily. While planning to win a
war with China remains necessary, it is no longer sufficient: The United
States must also consider how to limit war and its costs.
This study seeks to begin filling the hole in thinking about Sino-
U.S. war by examining alternative paths one might take, effects on
both countries of each path, preparations the United States should
make, and ways to balance U.S. war aims against costs should war
occur. It considers not only military factors but also economic, domestic
political, and international ones, across the time frame from 2015
to 2025. Implications for the U.S. Army are highlighted. The authors
emphasize that this analysis is indicative, not definitive, and that the
findings are preliminary. It is hoped that this study will encourage
others, for it is not meant to be the last word.
This research was sponsored by the Office of the Undersecretary
of the Army and conducted within the RAND Arroyo Center’s Strategy,
Doctrine, and Resources Program. RAND Arroyo Center, part of
the RAND Corporation, is a federally funded research and development
center sponsored by the United States Army.
The Project Unique Identification Code (PUIC) for the project
that produced this document is HQD146848.
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Contents
Preface.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . iii
Figures and Tables.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . vii
Summary.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ix
Acknowledgments.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . xix
CHAPTER ONE
Introduction.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
Purpose.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
Rationale.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
Factors Considered.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
How This Report Is Organized.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
CHAPTER TWO
Analytic Framework.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11
U.S. and Chinese Thinking About War.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13
Variables of War.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18
Upper and Lower Limits.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26
CHAPTER THREE
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and
International.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33
Military Losses.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33
Economic Costs.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
Political Effects.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
International Effects.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
The Four Cases and Their Effects.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
vi War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
CHAPTER FOUR
Findings, Recommendations, and Concluding Observations.. . . . . . . . . . . 67
Findings.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
Recommendations. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Concluding Observations.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72
APPENDIXES
A. Military Losses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
B. Economic Effects in the Severe Case, 2015.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85
Abbreviations.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
Bibliography.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91
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Figures and Tables
Figures
2.1. Notional Cumulative Decline in Military Capabilities in
a Severe Conflict over Time, 2015 and 2025.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22
3.1. Estimated Aggregate Loss in Military Capability, Severe
Case, 2015.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37
3.2. Estimated Aggregate Loss in Military Capability, Severe
Case, 2025.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
3.3. Illustrative War-Zone Effect on Trade .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
3.4. Estimated Aggregate Effect on GDP from Losses in
Bilateral Trade, Consumption, and Income from
Investment.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
3.5. Estimated Aggregate Effect on GDP from Losses in
Overall Trade, Consumption, and Income from
Investment.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
B.1. Estimated Effect on GDP of Bilateral Trade Losses
Because of War.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86
B.2. Estimated Effect on GDP of Overall Trade Losses Because
of War.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87
Tables
2.1. Matrix of the Four Cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
3.1. Estimated Military Losses, Severe Case, 2015. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36
3.2. Estimated Military Losses, Severe Case, 2025.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
3.3. Estimated Economic Costs After One Year of Severe War.. . . . 48
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3.4. Potential Effects on U.S. Domestic Politics in the Four
Cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
3.5. Potential Effects on Chinese Domestic Politics in the
Four Cases.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
3.6. Possible International Responses in the Four Cases.. . . . . . . . . . . . 60
3.7. Possible Effects on the United States and China in the
Four Cases and Overall.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
A.1. Military Losses in the Severe Case, 2015. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76
A.2. Military Losses in the Severe Case, 2025.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
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Summary
As its military advantage declines, the United States will be less confident
that a war with China will conform to its plans. China’s improved
military capabilities, particularly for anti-access and area denial
(A2AD), mean that the United States cannot count on gaining operational
control, destroying China’s defenses, and achieving decisive victory
if a war occurred. With that in mind, this report examines alternative
paths that a war between the United States and China might take,
losses and other effects on both sides, preparations that the United
States should make, and ways to balance U.S. war aims against costs
should war occur.
We postulate that a war would be regional and conventional. It
would be waged mainly by ships on and beneath the sea, by aircraft
and missiles of many sorts, and in space (against satellites) and cyberspace
(against computer systems). We assume that fighting would start
and remain in East Asia, where potential Sino-U.S. flash points and
nearly all Chinese forces are located. Each side’s increasingly far-flung
disposition of forces and growing ability to track and attack opposing
forces could turn much of the Western Pacific into a “war zone,”
with grave economic consequences. It is unlikely that nuclear weapons
would be used: Even in an intensely violent conventional conflict,
neither side would regard its losses as so serious, its prospects so dire,
or the stakes so vital that it would run the risk of devastating nuclear
retaliation by using nuclear weapons first. We also assume that China
would not attack the U.S. homeland, except via cyberspace, given its
minimal capability to do so with conventional weapons. In contrast,
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U.S. nonnuclear attacks against military targets in China could be
extensive. The time frame studied is 2015 to 2025.
The need to think through war with China is made all the more
important by developments in military capabilities. Sensors, weapon
guidance, digital networking, and other information technologies used
to target opposing forces have advanced to the point where both U.S.
and Chinese military forces seriously threaten each other. This creates
the means as well as the incentive to strike enemy forces before they
strike one’s own. In turn, this creates a bias toward sharp, reciprocal
strikes from the outset of a war, yet with neither side able to gain control
and both having ample capacity to keep fighting, even as military
losses and economic costs mount.
A Sino-U.S. conflict is unlikely to involve large land combat.
Moreover, the unprecedented ability of U.S. and Chinese forces to
target and destroy each other—conventional counterforce—could
greatly deplete military capabilities in a matter of months. After that,
the sides could replenish and improve their forces in an industrialtechnological-
demographic mobilization contest, the outcome of
which depends on too many factors to speculate, except to say that
costs would continue to climb.
While the primary audience for this study is the U.S. policy community,
we hope that Chinese policymakers will also think through
possible courses and consequences of war with the United States, including
potential damage to China’s economic development and threats to
China’s equilibrium and cohesion. We find little in the public domain
to indicate that the Chinese political leadership has given this matter
the attention it deserves.
Four Analytic Cases
The path of war might be defined mainly by two variables: intensity
(from mild to severe) and duration (from a few days to a year or more).
Thus, we analyze four cases: brief and severe, long and severe, brief
and mild, and long and mild. The main determinant of intensity is
whether, at the outset, U.S. and Chinese political leaders grant or deny
Summary xi
their respective militaries permission to execute their plans to attack
opposing forces unhesitatingly. The main determinant of duration,
given that both powers have the material wherewithal to fight a long
war, is whether and when at least one side loses the will to fight or calculates
that continuing to do so would be counterproductive.
We categorize the effects of each case as military, economic,
domestic political, and international. Military losses include aircraft,
surface ships, submarines, missile launchers and inventories,
and C4ISR (command, control, communications, computing, intelligence,
surveillance, and reconnaissance) systems, which are increasingly
vulnerable to cyber and anti-satellite (ASAT) warfare. Economic
costs include the contraction of trade, consumption, and revenue from
investments abroad. (The disruption of energy supplies is captured in
the effects of trade contraction.) Should cyberwarfare escalate from
military to civilian domains and infect critical information infrastructure,
economic activity could be further disrupted. Domestic political
effects could range from impeding war policy to endangering internal
stability. International responses could be supportive, opposed, or
destabilizing.
The current rate of advances in military technology, especially in
Chinese A2AD and in cyberwar and ASAT capabilities of both sides,
implies a potential for major change in the decade to come, which dictates
examining 2025 cases distinct from 2015 cases. Economic conditions
will also change between now and 2025—with the Chinese
economy potentially overtaking the U.S. economy, Chinese investments
abroad growing, and both economies relying more than ever
on computer networking—though not enough to alter qualitatively
the economic impact of a war. Attempting to specify domestic political
and international effects of war a decade from now would be even
more speculative. Thus, 2025 is analyzed distinctly from 2015 only in
the military dimension.
The four cases and indicative findings about losses, costs, and
other effects are as follows:
• Brief, severe: If either U.S. or Chinese political leaders authorize
their military commanders to carry out plans for sharp strikes on
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enemy forces, a severely violent war would erupt. As of 2015, U.S.
losses of surface naval and air forces, including disabled aircraft
carriers and regional air bases, could be significant, but Chinese
losses, including to homeland-based A2AD systems, would be
much greater. Within days, it would be apparent to both sides that
the early gap in losses favoring the United States would widen if
fighting continued. By 2025, though, U.S. losses would increase
because of enhanced Chinese A2AD. This, in turn, could limit
Chinese losses, though these would still be greater than U.S. ones.
It could be unclear then whether continued fighting would result
in victory for either side. Economically, even a brief, severe war
would produce a shock to Chinese global trade, most of which
would have to transit the Western Pacific war zone, whereas U.S.
economic damage would largely be confined to bilateral trade
with China. International and domestic political responses would
have little impact.
• Long, severe: As of 2015, the longer a severe war dragged on, the
worse the results and prospects would be for China. By 2025,
however, inconclusive results in early fighting could motivate both
sides to fight on despite heavy losses incurred and still expected.
Although prospects for U.S. military victory then would be worse
than they are today, this would not necessarily imply Chinese
victory. As the fighting persisted, much of the Western Pacific,
from the Yellow Sea to the South China Sea, could become hazardous
for commercial sea and air transport. Sharply reduced
trade, including energy supplies, could harm China’s economy
disproportionately and badly. The longer and harsher a conflict,
the greater would be the likelihood of involving other states, especially
U.S. allies in the region—most importantly, Japan.
• Brief, mild: Given the uncertain prospects of swift military victory,
the risks of losing control, and the specter of major economic
damage, both Chinese and U.S. leaders—for it would
take both—might decline to authorize all-out strikes on the
other side’s forces. What could follow is tightly restricted, lowSummary
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grade, sporadic, inconclusive fighting, with minimal military
losses. Assuming that leaders of both states were inclined and had
enough political latitude to compromise, such a conflict could be
ended before it produced major economic damage or domestic
and international political tremors.
• Long, mild: With fighting contained and losses tolerable, the sides
could try to escape the political costs of compromise by continuing
a low-grade conflict. Because neither would gain the upper
hand militarily, this could go on for some time. In the meantime,
even with fighting limited, economic losses would grow, especially
for China. With the passage of time, domestic and international
political reactions would intensify, though less consequentially
than in the long, severe case.
These cases indicate that the advanced conventional counterforce
capabilities of both the United States and China could produce major
military losses from the outset and throughout unrestrained (though
nonnuclear) hostilities. Once either military is authorized to commence
strikes, the ability of both to control the conflict would be greatly compromised.
Each side could regard preemptive attack on the other’s
forces as a way to gain a major early and sustainable edge in losses and
thus in capabilities to prevail; this underscores the instability inherent
in mutual, conventional counterforce capabilities and warfighting
concepts.
By 2025, enhanced Chinese A2AD will have shrunk the gap
between Chinese and U.S. military losses: Chinese losses would still
be very heavy; U.S. losses, though less than China’s, could be much
heavier than in a 2015 war. Even as U.S. military victory became less
likely, Chinese victory would remain elusive. Because both sides would
be able to continue to inflict severe losses, neither one would likely be
willing to accept defeat. History offers no encouragement that destructive
but stalemated fighting induces belligerents to agree to stop. A
severe, lengthy, militarily inconclusive war would weaken and leave
both powers vulnerable to other threats.
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The Importance of Nonmilitary Factors
The prospect of a military standoff means that war could eventually be
decided by nonmilitary factors. These should favor the United States
now and in the future. Although war would harm both economies,
damage to China’s could be catastrophic and lasting: on the order of a
25–35 percent reduction in Chinese gross domestic product (GDP) in
a yearlong war, compared with a reduction in U.S. GDP on the order
of 5–10 percent. Even a mild conflict, unless ended promptly, could
weaken China’s economy. A long and severe war could ravage China’s
economy, stall its hard-earned development, and cause widespread
hardship and dislocation.
Such economic damage could in turn aggravate political turmoil
and embolden separatists in China. Although the regime and its security
forces presumably could withstand such challenges, doing so might
necessitate increased oppressiveness, tax the capacity, and undermine
the legitimacy of the Chinese regime in the midst of a very difficult
war. In contrast, U.S. domestic partisan skirmishing could handicap
the war effort but not endanger societal stability, much less the survival
of the state, no matter how long and harsh the conflict, so long as it
remains conventional. Escalating cyberwarfare, while injurious to both
sides, could worsen China’s economic problems and impede the government’s
ability to control a restive population.
International responses could, on balance, also favor the United
States in a long and severe war: The support of U.S. East Asian allies
could hurt China’s military chances; responses of Russia, India, and
NATO would have less impact; and NATO could neutralize Russian
opportunistic threats in Europe. Japan’s entry would be likely if
the nation were party to the underlying dispute and almost certain if
its territory (where U.S. bases are) were attacked. With Tokyo’s more
permissive interpretation of constitutional limits on use of force and
programmed improvements in Japanese military capabilities, Japan’s
entry could make a difference by 2025 in the course and results of war.
Heightened turmoil in the Middle East could be harmful to both Chinese
and U.S. interests.
Summary xv
These findings reinforce the widely held view that a Sino-U.S. war
would be so harmful that both states should place a very high priority
on avoiding one. While expectations of huge costs make premeditated
war improbable, they also demand strong crisis management and civilian
control of the military by both governments. Given the extreme
penalty for allowing one’s forces to be struck before they strike, creating
mutual forbearance at the outset of hostilities could be as difficult
as it is critical. It requires an ability to cooperate, in effect, even after
fighting has begun. Thus, the need for instant and unfiltered leader-toleader
communication is as great when hostilities begin as it is during
crises that could lead to them.
Because the United States might be unable to control, win, or
avoid major losses and costs from a severe conflict, it must guard
against automaticity in executing, if not initiating, a sharp and prompt
counterforce exchange. This demands fail-safe assurance of definitive
presidential approval to carry out military plans, which in turn requires
that military commanders provide the president with a range of feasible
options.
Notwithstanding its improved A2AD capabilities, China has
even more to lose from a severe conflict, yet it has less experience with
civilian-military coordination during high-tech, high-speed warfare.
China’s leaders would be ill-advised to think that trends in military
modernization point to a brief and successful war. More likely is a
severe, drawn-out, militarily inconclusive one, with economic, political,
and international effects that might favor the United States. China
has as much cause as the United States to prevent automatic execution
of military plans for a prompt and sharp counterforce exchange,
including an unambiguous requirement for political decisionmaking.
Recommended Actions for the U.S. Military
Chinese restraint in attacking U.S. forces when hostilities begin
depends on Chinese expectations of U.S. action. The U.S. military
should not rely on plans to destroy China’s A2AD capabilities in the
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first moments of a conflict. Such reliance could undermine crisis stability,
predispose the Chinese toward preemptive strikes, and heighten
the danger of automaticity and inevitability of fierce fighting from the
outset. Furthermore, the U.S. military should not prejudge or limit the
president’s options by having only a plan for immediate conventional
counterforce attack, nor leave itself unprepared to carry out alternative
plans. It would be far better for stability and at least as good for deterrence
for the U.S. military to emphasize, in general, planning for a prolonged
high-intensity war and to make this emphasis known to China.
Signaling a specific predisposition to strike Chinese A2AD capabilities
before they could be used against U.S. forces increases the risk that
those capabilities would be used before they were themselves struck.
In parallel with measures to prevent crises from becoming violent
and violence from becoming severe, the United States should try to
reduce the impact of Chinese A2AD by investing in more-survivable
weapons platforms and in its own A2AD capabilities: missiles, submarines,
drones and drone-launching platforms, cyber, and ASAT. Such
capabilities would deny the Chinese confidence of victory and would
improve stability in crises, as well as in the critical initial stage of a conflict.
But they would not restore U.S. military dominance and control
or spare the United States major losses or economic costs in a severe
conflict.
While keeping in mind the potentially huge costs of preparing
comprehensively for a low-probability war with China, the United
States should make certain prudent preparations:
• improve the ability to sustain and survive severely intense military
operations
• enhance high-priority military capabilities of, and military
interoperability with, allies and partners near China
• conduct contingency planning with Japan and other East Asian
allies and partners
• consult with NATO regarding contingencies involving conflict
with China, including possible Russian and Iranian reactions
• adopt measures to mitigate the interruption of critical products
from China
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• formulate options to deny China access to war-critical imports
(e.g., fuels).
The U.S. Army, in its Title X and joint responsibilities, can contribute
by
• investing in counter-A2AD capabilities—for example, mobile
land-based missiles and integrated air defense to worsen expected
Chinese military, naval, and air losses
• strengthening, advising, and enabling East Asian partners to
mount strong defense
• assessing high-demand weapons and stocks in the event of a long,
severe war.
Because such U.S. measures could be interpreted as hostile by the Chinese,
the United States, including the U.S. Army, should also expand
and deepen Sino-U.S. military-to-military understanding and measures
to reduce risks of misperception and miscalculation.
Conclusion
Although advances in targeting enable conventional counterforce warfare
and reduce U.S. warfighting dominance, they do not point to Chinese
dominance or victory. War between the two countries could begin
with devastating strikes; be hard to control; last months, if not years;
have no winner; and inflict huge losses on both sides’ military forces.
The longer such a war would rage, the greater the importance of economic,
domestic political, and international effects. While such nonmilitary
effects would fall hardest on China, they could also greatly
harm the U.S. economy and the United States’ ability to meet challenges
worldwide. The United States should make sensible preparations
to wage a long and fierce war with China. But it should also develop
plans to limit the scope, intensity, and duration of a war; tighten up its
system of civilian control; and expand communications with China in
times of peace, crisis, and war.
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Acknowledgments
The authors are most fortunate to have had the steady hand and
thoughtful advice of RAND colleague Terrence Kelly in helping conceive,
design, and conduct this study. They thank him and the rest of
the Arroyo Center team for their strong support. The authors also want
to recognize colleagues Howard Shatz and Duncan Long for providing
invaluable ideas on method and substance. Toward the end of our
work, Jerry Sollinger came in from the bullpen to make this report as
readable as we hope it is. Good reports typically mean that they have
gone through painstaking quality review. We thank Larry Cavaiola,
Keith Crane, and Tim Heath for pressing us hard but constructively
to improve our work. Finally, our editor, Rebecca Fowler, deserves the
authors’ gratitude for getting our prose up to the standards RAND
readers expect. Despite all this help, any mistakes are exclusively the
authors’ responsibility.
1
CHAPTER ONE
Introduction
The ambitious should consider above all that [with] an equality of
force between belligerent parties, all that princes can expect from the
greatest advantages at present is to acquire . . . some territory which
will not pay the interest on the expenses of war, and whose population
does not even approach the number of citizens who perished in
the campaign.1
—Frederick the Great
Purpose
For all the studies and opinion pieces about how a war with China
might start and should be fought, one finds little serious analysis,
at least in the public domain, of what such a war might be like and
what its consequences could be. This is a gaping omission, for China
is at loggerheads with the United States over several regional disputes
that could lead to military confrontation or even violence, and both
superpowers have ample forces, industrial might, and people to fight
long and hard across a vast expanse of land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace.
This study seeks to start filling this gap by examining the alternative
paths that a war between the United States and China might
take, effects of each path on both sides, preparations the United States
should make, and ways to balance U.S. war aims against costs should
1 Frederick the Great quoted by Geoffrey Parker, “The Military Revolution,” in Lawrence
Freedman, ed., War, Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1994, p. 247.
2 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
war occur.2 The study considers not only military factors but also economic,
domestic political, and international ones, across a time frame
from 2015 to 2025. Implications for the U.S. Army are highlighted.
While our primary audience consists of American policymakers
and planners, we hope that their Chinese counterparts will also think
through possible paths and consequences of war, for it could destroy
much of what modern China has accomplished. There is no indication
that the Chinese have given the potential impact of a war the rigorous
attention it warrants.
Rationale
The need to think through war with China is made all the more pressing
by developments in military technology and associated doctrine:
Sensors, global positioning, weapon guidance, digital networking, and
other capabilities used to target opposing forces have advanced to the
point where both U.S. and Chinese military forces pose serious threats
to each other. This creates the ability and a reason to strike enemy
forces before they strike one’s own, which is bound to influence both
nations’ war planning.3 Military technology and planning are thus creating
a bias toward sharp exchange of strikes from the start, with both
2 Perhaps the two most definitive U.S. official annual documents are the U.S. Department
of Defense annual report to Congress, Military and Security Developments Involving the
People’s Republic of China, and the annual report of the joint Congressional-Executive Commission
on China. Neither contains analysis of the range of possibilities and consequences of
war with China. See Office of the Secretary of Defense, Annual Report to Congress: Military
and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2014, Washington, D.C.,
April 24, 2014; and Congressional-Executive Commission on China, 2014 Annual Report,
Washington, D.C., October 9, 2014.
3 Chinese warfighting doctrine is laid out in the People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA’s) Science
of Military Strategy and Science of Campaigns. (See Peng Guangqian and Yao Youzhi, eds.,
Science of Military Strategy [Zhanlue Xue], Beijing: Military Science Press, 2005; and Zhang
Yuliang, ed., Science of Campaigns [Zhanyi Xue], Beijing: National Defense University Press,
2006.) The implication of U.S. reliance on attacking China’s A2AD is found in various
public explanations of the U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force Air-Sea Battle concept, which has
been subsumed under the Joint Concept for Access and Maneuver (see, for example, U.S.
Naval Institute, “Document: Air Sea Battle Name Change Memo,” January 20, 2015).
Introduction 3
sides intent on gaining the upper hand or at least denying it to the
other. To quote Chinese strategists: “t has become possible to achieve
operational objectives before an enemy can make a response. . . . If the
PLA [People’s Liberation Army] fights with a high-tech and powerful
enemy, we must achieve operational suddenness.”4 The combination of
such confidence and urgency might be misplaced and dangerous—and
not just for China.
A hazard inherent in all war planning is that it sets and limits
expectations of what will actually occur. Only a militarily dominant
belligerent can afford to be so cavalier, and when it comes to China, the
United States is no longer dominant, nor can it afford to be cavalier. As
its military advantages vis-à-vis China decline, the United States can
be less confident that war would conform to its plans. Improved Chinese
forces, particularly for anti-access and area denial (A2AD), means
that the United States cannot be sanguine about gaining operational
control, destroying China’s defenses, and achieving decisive victory if
a war occurred.
Because Sino-U.S. war could be extremely costly even for the
victor, it is not likely to result from premeditated attack by either side.
Yet Sino-U.S. crises could occur and involve incidents or miscalculations
that lead to hostilities. China could try to intimidate its neighbors
below the threshold of U.S. intervention, yet misjudge where
that threshold is. China could underestimate U.S. willingness to back
Japan militarily in a crisis over disputed territory in the East China
Sea. Moreover, the contradiction between China’s claim of sovereignty
over its 200-nautical-mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and U.S.
insistence that such zones are international waters beyond 12 nautical
miles could bring forces into close and hazardous proximity if either
side opts to enforce its stance.
A case in point of how conflicting Chinese and U.S. views could
lead to war is found in the South China Sea. In support of China’s
4 Zhang, 2006, p. 96. See also Jianxiang Bi, “Joint Operations: Developing a New Paradigm,”
in James Mulvenon and David M. Finkelstein, eds., China’s Revolution in Doctrinal
Affairs: Emerging Trends in the Operational Art of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, Washington,
D.C.: CNA Corporation, December 2005, especially pp. 47–49.
4 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
objective of making virtually the entire South China Sea sovereign territorial
waters, China has been building artificial islands, airstrips, and
other militarily useful infrastructure—and claiming 200-mile EEZs
around them. The United States will not accept this because it runs
afoul of several U.S. interests: the principle of peaceful settlement
of disputes, the principle of freedom of the seas, the fact that some
40 percent of world trade passes through the South China Sea, and the
expectations of the Philippines and other U.S. friends that the United
States will not condone Chinese unilateral action. Consequently, the
Americans have steamed naval surface combatants through the very
waters China is claiming and on which it is building. There seems little
doubt that the Chinese will operate forces in these contested waters, in
which case Chinese and U.S. forces will be present and actively shadowing
or constricting the other side’s forces. If, or as, a crisis occurs, the
risk of a spark causing inadvertent conflict would be heightened, perhaps
greatly. Moreover, political leaders on both sides may become less
flexible, not more, with so much at stake, and military commanders
could urge in favor of escalation either to deter or to prepare for conflict.
While current odds strongly favor the United States militarily in
the South China Sea, making Beijing more likely than Washington to
back down, the improvement and extension of Chinese A2AD in that
direction could make a crisis harder to defuse. As horrific as a Sino-
U.S. war could be, it cannot be considered implausible.
As we will see, the cause of war and the importance each side
attaches to it could affect how fiercely and long it will fight, though
hostilities can create dynamics and fury that eclipse rational calculation.
If both sides have substantial war-making capacity and neither
one can gain operational dominance and control, there is a danger of
prolonged ferocious fighting at great cost, even though both might
plan and expect it to end quickly. Such conditions recall those of
Europe in 1914, when a crisis triggered near-automatic execution of
military plans to attack before being attacked, when the economies of
the two sides were interlocked, and when both foresaw a short war. As
fighting raged, casualties soared, and territory was lost and won, the
Introduction 5
belligerents found themselves fighting over far more than an incident
involving Serbian nationalists seeking to end Austria-Hungary’s control
of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Now, as then, the result could be huge
military losses (then in foot soldiers, now in weapon platforms) and
lasting economic damage on both sides.
In sum, the risk that some Sino-U.S. confrontation will lead to
hostilities, the declining ability of the United States to gain militaryoperational
control, the conventional counterforce capabilities (the
capabilities of U.S. and Chinese forces to target and destroy each other)
of both militaries, the vulnerability of both economies, and the potential
for prolonged fighting with devastating results demand fresh but
sober thinking about Sino-U.S. war. Because war with China, seen
in this light, is not implausible and could be very dangerous and very
demanding, the United States must be prepared for it. Already, military
requirements for a Sino-U.S. war figure prominently in U.S. force
planning and operating concepts (as they do in China’s). But larger
national requirements, depending on the war’s intensity and duration,
have not received equivalent attention. Both the United States and
China need to be aware of what the costs of war might be. If advances
in conventional counterforce capabilities are making war harder to control,
leaders need political instruments to keep combat from destroying
more than it can gain.
Factors Considered
As U.S. military dominance wanes, U.S. strategists must consider (as
this study does) a range of contingencies and corresponding requirements.
Recent research on strategic decisionmaking finds that unjustified
faith in the ability to plan, control, and limit the duration of
fighting is a common mistake in starting wars that end badly. After
analyzing numerous historical cases, a RAND study concluded that
“confidence that an adversary will comply with one’s script and . . .
that the results of a decision can be controlled is tantamount to assum6
War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
ing away risk. When this leads to failure to prepare for bad results, the
consequences can be that much worse.”5
Essential though it is for U.S. armed forces to have plans to fight
and win, excessive confidence in such plans could have detrimental
effects on U.S. peacetime policy, crisis management, and wartime
operations. At worst, inattention to the range of possible paths and
consequences of war with China could lead the United States into one
for which it is unprepared. Likewise, the Chinese would be profoundly
wrong to think that improving their military capabilities would make
a war with the United States controllable, winnable, and affordable.6
As we will see, it could be that neither country is able to control, win,
or afford a future war.
Paradoxically, as both sides hone their military strategies with the
aim of controlling a war, they reduce the possibility of control. Military
officers of both countries have spoken and written about how to
achieve operational advantage, or at least avoid disadvantage, by striking
the other side’s forces at the outset of a conflict.7 Given the “firstmover”
advantage and the corresponding danger that perception of a
climbing probability of hostilities would increase the pressure on each
side’s trigger finger, the goal of avoiding a war must compete with that
of winning one. Likewise, as we will see, the goal of winning a war
must be weighed against the goal of containing its costs. Given the
potential military, economic, and political costs of a long conflict,
each side wants to succeed quickly. Accordingly, the Chinese stress the
need to strike intervening U.S. forces early and then to limit the duration
and scope of fighting that ensues, especially by preventing attacks
5 David C. Gompert, Hans Binnendijk, and Bonny Lin, Blinders, Blunders, and Wars: What
America and China Can Learn, Santa Monica, Calif.: RAND Corporation, RR-768-RC,
2014.
6 The Chinese appear to be aware of how costly war with the United States could be (see
David Finkelstein, “Chinese Perceptions of the Costs of a Conflict,” in Andrew Scobell, ed.,
The Costs of Conflict: The Impact on China of a Future War, Carlisle, Pa.: Strategic Studies
Institute, 2001, pp. 9–28).
7 See David C. Gompert and Terrence K. Kelly, “Escalation Cause: How the Pentagon’s
New Strategy Could Trigger War with China,” Foreign Policy, August 3, 2013, among others
articles on Air-Sea Battle.
Introduction 7
on China itself. In turn, U.S. warfighting concepts rest on the logic
that gaining operational control, limiting losses, and achieving victory
might depend on disabling Chinese A2AD capabilities before they can
be used to full effect to disable U.S. forces.
The strong preference of both states to avoid a long war is only
natural, given expected military losses and other costs. Yet the very
military strategies that call for each to strike the other’s forces hard and
early, perhaps preemptively, could work against a war-ending compromise
and lead to the prolongation and expansion of war. Consider the
major wars of the 20th century, in which the side that attacked first—
Germany twice and Japan once—summoned the other side’s will to
fight, persevere, and ultimately prevail.8 Indeed, it is wise to heed the
simple verity that striking first does not ensure victory. Moreover, the
path of a Sino-U.S. war might be determined not just by military operations
but also by economic, political, and international effects and
pressures. We will see that the longer war lasts, the more important
nonmilitary factors might become.
The assumption that a Sino-U.S. war would be over quickly is not
supported by evidence that either side would rapidly exhaust its warmaking
capacity. China and the United States have considerable military,
economic, industrial, and demographic depth. If China is vulnerable
to critical shortages in a war with the United States, it could be
in losses of frontline military systems—its backup forces being largely
obsolescent—or in oil supplies, of which it imports about 60 percent
and has a declared strategic reserve of just ten days or so.9
As important as physical wherewithal is the political stamina of
the two states. At first, the Chinese government could largely ignore
domestic opposition, whereas the U.S. government could not. Yet the
legitimacy of the Chinese state rests on its ability to provide for the
material needs and improve the living standards of the population,
which would be at risk by a costly war. Just as political will could deter-
8 Germany’s initial offensives on both fronts in both world wars and Japan’s attack on Pearl
Harbor appeared successful, but ultimately both countries were defeated.
9 “China Makes First Announcement on Strategic Oil Reserves,” Reuters, November 20,
2014.
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mine a war’s duration, the war’s dynamics—military success or failure,
casualties, costs, and expectations of what further fighting might
bring—could determine will. All else being equal, the more even the
military capabilities, the less likely that one side’s will would crack
before the other’s.
Finally, willingness to suffer losses and support prolonged fighting
could be affected by the perceived stakes of the conflict. Thus, the
path to war could affect the path of war, including its severity and duration.
Consider several situations that could turn violent:
• Sino-Japanese skirmishing over disputed territory in the East
China Sea, where the United States has said its defense treaty
with Japan applies
• Chinese harassment to press its territorial claims in (and to)
the South China Sea—against the Philippines or Vietnam, for
example—in the face of U.S. insistence on peaceful dispute resolution
and freedom of the seas
• uncoordinated military interventions by Chinese, South Korean,
or U.S. forces in the event of a collapse of North Korea
• Chinese threat or use of force to intimidate or seize Taiwan
• an incident at sea, such as the downing of an aircraft, owing to
forces operating in close proximity, perhaps in EEZ waters claimed
as sovereign by China but as commons by the United States.
To illustrate, the United States might be willing to fight resolutely
to prevent China from gaining control of the South China Sea,
whereas China might seek a peaceful solution in the face of such American
resolve. In contrast, the Chinese might be more determined to
prevent Taiwan’s independence from China than the United States is
to prevent Taiwan’s forcible unification with China. The analysis that
follows does not deal with the merits of Sino-American quarrels or the
probability that they will lead to war, but it does recognize that asymmetric
interests can result in asymmetric resolve in the face of losses.
These factors suggest a need to examine with rigor how a Sino-
U.S. war might be fought, how long it might last, and how its mounting
costs and shifting outlook could affect the ability and will of each
side to keep fighting. One hundred years ago, European leaders and
Introduction 9
strategists, having formed alliances and adopted mobilization plans
that would lead readily, if not automatically, from confrontation to war,
erred further by assuming that war would be brief, either because their
side would win quickly or because both sides would want to end the
war before their armies and interlocking economies were devastated.
Yet for four years neither side would compromise to end the stalemated
carnage. A Sino-U.S. war would hold similar dangers: an incentive to
strike first and a belief that fighting would end quickly and limit costs.
Such thinking could turn a crisis into a conflict and leave the United
States unprepared if war occurred and turned out to be lengthy.
How This Report Is Organized
This study is preliminary and conceptual; its cases are imagined, and
its estimates only illustrative. With these qualifications in mind, the
chapters to come pursue the following line of inquiry:
• What are the parameters of a Sino-U.S. war?
• How do Chinese and U.S. planners think about how such a war
should or would proceed?
• What variables would describe a Sino-U.S. war?
• What different paths do these variables suggest?
• What military consequences and demands are implied by each
path?
• What could be the impact on the U.S. and Chinese economies,
on Sino-U.S. economic relations, on East Asian economies, and
on the world economy?
• What internal political pressures and constraints could arise
during a war?
• What international reactions might be expected?
• What are the implications for U.S. policy, requirements, and
preparations, including expectations of the U.S. Army?
The report also has two appendixes, which provide additional information
about possible military losses and economic effects.
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CHAPTER TWO
Analytic Framework
We postulate that a war between the United States and China would be
regional, conventional, and high-tech, and it would be waged mainly
on and beneath the sea, in the air (with aircraft, drones, and missiles),
in space, and in cyberspace. Although ground combat could occur in
certain scenarios (e.g., a conflict over Korean unification), we exclude
the possibility of a huge land war in Asia. We assume that fighting
would start and remain in East Asia, where potential flash points and
nearly all Chinese forces are located. Each side’s increasingly far-flung
regional disposition of forces and growing ability to track and attack
opposing forces could turn much of the Western Pacific into a “war
zone,” with grave economic consequences. It is unlikely that nuclear
weapons would be used: Even in an intensely violent conventional conflict,
neither side would regard its losses as so serious, its prospects so
dire, or the stakes so vital that it would run the risk of nuclear retaliation
by using nuclear weapons first. We also assume that China would
not attack the U.S. homeland, except via cyberspace, given China’s
minimal capability to do so with conventional weapons. In contrast,
U.S. nonnuclear attacks against military targets in China could be
extensive.
Two variables would largely define the path a war might take:
intensity (from mild to severe) and duration (from a few days to a year
or more); thus, we present four cases. The main determinant of intensity
is whether, at the outset, U.S. and Chinese political leaders grant
or deny their respective militaries permission to execute their plans to
attack opposing forces unhesitatingly, which would precipitate severely
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intense combat. The main determinant of length, given that both
powers have the potential to fight a long war, is whether and when
either one loses the will to fight or concludes that continuing to do so
would be counterproductive.
We categorize the effects of each case as military, economic,
domestic political, and international. Military losses—that is, decline
in military capabilities—would mainly consist of destroyed or disabled
weapon platforms and systems and C4ISR (command, control, communications,
computing, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance).
No attempt is made to analyze potential casualties, though very
crude estimates could be derived from platform losses.1 Economic costs
are defined here as reductions in gross domestic product (GDP) from
loss of trade, consumption, and income from investments abroad. The
disruption of energy supplies is captured in effects of trade contraction.
Costs of assets seized, forces destroyed, and infrastructure damaged,
though potentially sizable, are excluded because they would not immediately
affect GDP. Domestic political responses could involve support,
impatience, opposition, instability, or impairment of the war effort.
International responses could favor one side or the other, perhaps to
the point of intervention, and could pressure one or both sides to cease
fighting.
Our time frame is 2015–2025. The current rate of advances in
military technology, especially in Chinese A2AD and in cyberwar and
anti-satellite (ASAT) capabilities of both sides, implies a potential for
major change in the decade to come, which dictates examining cases in
2025 distinct from cases in 2015. Economic conditions will also change
between now and 2025—with China’s economy possibly overtaking
the U.S. economy in size, Chinese investments abroad growing, and
both economies relying more than ever on computer networking—
though not enough to alter qualitatively the economic impact of a war.
Attempting to specify domestic political and international effects of
1 Broadly stated, on the assumptions of no large land combat, extensive strategic bombing,
or use of nuclear weapons, loss of life would be comparatively low and not a good index of
the scale of fighting or costs.
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war a decade from now would be even more speculative. Thus, 2025 is
analyzed distinctly from 2015 only in the military dimension.
U.S. and Chinese Thinking About War
U.S. and Chinese thinking about war suggests that both sides expect a
conflict to be sharp, with China planning (and hoping) for a short one,
and the United States more confident of victory if fighting persists. As
far as the public record shows, neither side has analyzed systematically
the effects of a long war or seized on the idea (discussed later) of deliberately
and mutually restricting the violence.
Chinese military thought has evolved since the early Maoist
notions of “people’s war” and a “war of annihilation” between diametrically
opposed ideological systems. Emerging concepts reflect China’s
growing ability and inclination to threaten or use force for limited
purposes nearby (e.g., blocking Taiwan’s independence or enforcing
maritime claims) without finding itself at war with the United States.
Yet war with the United States cannot be excluded and could involve
strikes on China, staggering losses and costs, and eventual defeat. So
China has had to prepare, if it is unable to deter U.S. intervention, to
avert defeat.2
This situation has stoked Chinese interest in A2AD—in essence,
conventional counterforce—enabled especially by increasing Chinese
prowess in targeting technologies.3 A2AD raises the costs and thus the
threshold of U.S. intervention in a conflict involving China. By reducing
the U.S. threat to China, A2AD might build a shield behind which
China might feel freer to use force. In addition, U.S. military advantages
have steered Chinese thinking about warfighting toward taking
the initiative, making sudden gains, degrading U.S. strike forces, and
then limiting the ensuing conflict’s geographic scope, weapons, targets,
and duration. While the Chinese regard U.S. aircraft carriers and
2 See, for example, Finkelstein, 2001, pp. 9–28.
3 Chinese A2AD might also be motivated geopolitically by the desire to increase the vulnerability
and thus reduce the presence of U.S. military strength in the Western Pacific.
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regional air bases as prime targets, they also see C4ISR as an American
Achilles’ heel, and so have expanded their arsenal and planning to
include cyberwar and ASAT.
However, China’s risk in attempting to achieve a fait accompli
is that the United States would strike back (or strike first), expand
and extend the conflict, bring its warfighting superiority to bear, visit
destruction on China itself, sever Chinese sea links, and impose a harsh
peace. The Chinese ought also to worry, if they do not already, that a
long war could cause internal instability and encourage separatism. In
sum, the Chinese have scripted early strikes on U.S. forces and a quick
cessation of hostilities, with little room for error.
In parallel with such Chinese thinking about how to fight, contain,
and conclude a war with the United States, Chinese military strategists
have taken interest in the idea of “war control.”4 This concept
seeks to resolve the problem of how to avoid crushing defeat without
giving up the option of using force when it is in China’s interest to do
so. Chinese thinking on war control goes like this: Overriding goals of
national stability and development apply no less in war than in peace,
dictating that China be able to control and limit war should it occur.
Military initiative should be used to frame the scale, scope, and course
of war, as well as to induce the enemy to end it on China’s terms. It
is essential not only to prevent expansion, escalation, and prolongation
but also to guide combat toward an advantageous resolution at
the lowest price to China. Therefore, forces and operations need to be
controlled by political leaders who are mindful of China’s transcendent
goals. Throughout hostilities, China needs to assess progress and seize
chances to end the war with a stable outcome that protects Chinese
sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, institutional security,
and economic lifelines.5
4 See Lonnie Henley, “War Control: Chinese Concepts of Escalation Management,” in
Andrew Scobell and Larry M. Wortzel, eds., Shaping China’s Security Environment: The Role
of the People’s Liberation Army, Carlisle, Pa.: Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College,
2006.
5 Liu Shenyang, “On War of Control—Mainly from the Military Thinking Perspective,”
China Military Science, April 2014. Liu is the deputy commander of the Jinan Military District
and a lieutenant general of the PLA.
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This is a tall order indeed, especially in a conflict with a stronger
power. The Chinese are aware of this challenge, and they frequently
discuss their prior success in defeating superior military powers
despite inferior capabilities.6 While Chinese emphasis on war control
is not new, the Chinese might have growing confidence in its feasibility,
owing to enhancement of Chinese A2AD and evidence that the
United States is not invincible and is not guaranteed to retain control
of a conflict: “No matter how strong a country may be, how mighty its
military strength is, it is impossible [for it] to take total control of the
entire situation. The United States launched wars in Afghanistan and
Iraq [and] is still trapped.”7
Increasing belief in China’s ability to manage crises and war proactively,
rather than reacting or having to launch an all-or-nothing
opening salvo, could embolden Chinese behavior in peace and crises.
It could also affect the path that a Sino-U.S. war could take. While
consistent with the concept of early attacks on U.S. strike forces, war
control contemplates “conflict in its entirety,” including postwar China,
Asia, and the world. It suggests the Chinese are mindful of the need
to balance war aims against costs should war occur. More specifically,
postulating that controlling the scale, scope, and duration of hostilities
could be critical implies Chinese awareness of possibilities other than
fierce conventional counterforce exchanges. One such possibility is that
Chinese civilian leaders would try to keep hostilities limited, hoping
that U.S. war-weariness delivers a settlement favoring China. In any
case, President Xi Jinping’s efforts to strengthen political control over
the PLA speak to a critical prerequisite of war control.
U.S. thinking about war is also in flux. For some time, the United
States was confident that its vastly superior strike power could destroy
Chinese forces straightaway. Of course, even with Chinese naval and
air forces shattered, the United States knows it would struggle mightily
and pay dearly if it engaged in land war on Chinese soil (an idea then–
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates famously suggested would war-
6 See Zhang, 2006.
7 Liu, 2014.
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rant psychiatric treatment for U.S. leaders8). As China’s A2AD capabilities
improve, the United States has begun to consider striking them
before losing its strike forces.9 While there is operational logic to this,
the fact that Chinese A2AD systems are mainly homeland-based raises
risks of escalation, as well as risks of crisis instability insofar as it could
prompt the Chinese to strike preemptively.
In addition to reflecting Chinese and U.S. doctrine, the intensity
and duration of a war could depend on the command and control (C2)
precepts and practices of the two sides. U.S. C2 increasingly stresses
flexibility, subordinate initiative, responsiveness to circumstances,
horizontal (“joint”) collaboration, and delegation of authority, albeit
under political guidance.10 Notwithstanding the general trend toward
increasingly decentralized military C2, U.S. political leaders could be
expected to take intense interest in the finest details of Sino-U.S. hostilities,
whether or not they would take control of operations.
In contrast to emerging U.S. C2 philosophy, Chinese C2 traditionally
emphasizes hierarchy, deference to leaders, reliance on central
direction, top-heavy organization, reluctance to delegate authority, and
adherence to script.11 Despite Chinese awareness of the need to loosen
up C2 for the sake of agility in the face of uncertainties of war, war
control reiterates the need for top-down direction.12
8 Thom Shanker, “Warning Against Wars Like Iraq and Afghanistan,” The New York Times,
February 25, 2011.
9 Norton A. Schwartz and Jonathan W. Greenert, “Air-Sea Battle: Promoting Stability in
an Era of Uncertainty,” The American Interest, February 20, 2012.
10 See, for example, the seminal work of David Alberts and Richard E. Hayes, Power to the
Edge: Command and Control in the Information Age, Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of
Defense Command and Control Research Program, 2003. There has also been a reactionary
approach to U.S. C2, whereby improved information and communications has given
top command the means to exert more, not less, control over operations—the so-called
3,000-mile-long screwdriver micromanagement tendency.
11 Dennis J. Blasko, “The PLA Army/Ground Forces,” in Kevin Pollpeter and Kenneth
Allen, eds., The PLA as Organization v2.0, Vienna, Va.: Defense Group Inc., 2015, p. 260.
12 To date, although there has been a significant change to the PLA force structure, there is
little evidence to suggest that the command and logistics structures have adapted to address
the more likely combat and nontraditional security contingencies that might occur beyond
China’s borders and near seas. PLA doctrine foresees many forms of joint campaigns exeAnalytic
Framework 17
In tension with the case for tight central control on both sides,
military plans and capabilities slant toward a prompt, sharp counterforce
exchange, as noted. Both sides are averse to a long war: the
Chinese because their prospects decline if and as the United States
brings more and more strike-power to bear; the Americans because
of their grudging but growing respect for Chinese A2AD capabilities;
and both because of the potential military losses and economic costs of
prolonged fighting. Yet history shows that war planners tend to claim,
and leaders tend to accept, that war will end much sooner than it actually
does.13 As we will see, the more level the battlefield, the longer a
Sino-U.S. war could last.
Despite military pressures for a high-intensity conflict, policymakers’
doubts about the outcome and fears about the costs could predispose
them to try to restrict hostilities. While political control of military
operations is more in the Chinese hierarchical C2 style than the
American distributed style, leaders of both states could resist appeals to
“use or lose” potent but vulnerable forces. While restricted hostilities
could be ended readily by leaders determined to minimize losses and
avoid escalation, it is also possible that such hostilities could drag on if
losses were tolerable and concessions hard.
The less vital the conflict’s cause and outcome are to the belligerents,
the more inclined and able leaders might be to avoid fierce counterforce
exchanges. But war can roil politics, twist psyches, alter stakes,
cuted beyond the Chinese mainland that will put naval, air force, or missile units in the lead
role. Currently, the existing peacetime chain of command would have to shift to an ad hoc
wartime war zone command structure to accommodate the operational changes necessary
to accomplish these long-distance joint missions. More-efficient command structures have
been discussed in the Chinese military media (mostly talk about flattening the command
system), but major changes to the command structure (beyond the reduction of the number
of military regions in the 1980s) that was created decades ago in a much different threat
environment have yet to be implemented.
13 Underestimating the duration of conflict was a significant factor in most major strategic
blunders of modern times, including Napoleon’s invasion of Russia, Germany’s decision
during World War I to attack neutral shipping, Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union,
Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor, China’s invasion of Vietnam, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan,
Argentina’s invasion of the Falklands, and the U.S. invasion of Iraq. See Gompert,
Binnendijk, and Lin, 2014.
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and produce new calculations. Just as the path of war between China
and the United States is hard to plan, it is also hard to forecast. For this
reason, this study eschews prediction and detailed scenarios in favor of
analyzing variables, alternative generic cases suggested by those variables,
and consequences of those cases.
Variables of War
Again, a Sino-U.S. conflict can be defined largely by its intensity and
duration. While the intensity of fighting could fall anywhere along a
continuum, from mild to severe, it suffices for our purposes to analyze
the two poles.
Mild connotes tightly restricted operations, in forces committed,
weapons used, targets struck, geography, and tempo. Mild conflict
might take the form of sporadic fighting, occasional losses, and
posturing of forces for advantage, probing, or signaling. Because both
Chinese and American forces are capable of fierce warfare, if it is mild,
it might be because Chinese and American leaders alike choose it to
be. In this case, they are intent on minimizing destruction and avoiding
escalation, sparing much of the enemy’s targetable forces, even
if it means forfeiting a military advantage. Since it would be highly
improbable and unstable for one side but not the other to resist counterforce
pressure, willingness to do so is presumably communicated,
by words or actions, between civilian or military leaders.14 In effect,
a mild conflict implies that the sides together try to control a war that
neither one, left to itself, can control.
Severe intensity connotes fierce, open-ended operations (short of
nuclear war) by each side to gain a decisive advantage by destroying the
other side’s forces. As already explained, the prospect of such fighting
is implied by the fact that both sides have the ability and motivation
14 We do not consider a case in which one side is committed to a mild conflict while the
other seeks an intense one. Since both China and the United States are capable of intense
fighting, the side that is biased toward restraint must seek to either end the conflict or intensify
its attacks.
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to conduct conventional counterforce warfare.15 Severe conflict means
that the goal of winning trumps that of limiting the costs of a war. It
also implies that each side hopes to weaken the other’s will to wage
war, which might be less of a consideration if fighting is moderated. All
sorts of conventional weapons might be used against whatever military
capabilities their sensors can locate and target: moving forces, staging
forces, operating bases, logistics flows and infrastructure, air and naval
bases, computer networks, satellites, sensors, and military C4ISR. In
the future, cyberwarfare against military, dual-purpose, and civilian
systems could figure importantly in a severely intense war.
Whether with kinetic or nonkinetic (namely, cyber) weapons, the
highest targeting priority for China would be U.S. strike platforms,
bases, and force concentrations in the region. For the United States,
it would be Chinese A2AD capabilities, mainly located in China. A
critical distinction between mild and intense conflict is that the United
States would strike targets on Chinese soil in the latter but not the
former. Given the improbability that China would sue for peace when
attacked on its territory, strikes on the mainland could prolong a severe
war.
For analytic purposes, duration could be brief or long, the former
meaning days or weeks and the latter a year or so. Longer wars are also
possible but not considered here. Several factors could prolong a Sino-
U.S. war: the absence of a clear winner, the determination of both sides
to persist in light of the stakes, the results of fighting to that point, the
expected results of continued fighting, and the inability to settle on
terms of a truce. High military losses and economic costs, as expected
in a severe conflict, could either strengthen or weaken resolve, depending
on psychological and political factors that are hard to predict. Both
sides might opt to pace and restrict operations as a way of conserving
their ability to fight, but, again, the urge to use targetable forces against
targetable forces could be strong.
While intensity depends on the use and loss of engaged U.S.
strike and Chinese A2AD capabilities, the significance of total military
15 As in strategic nuclear theory, counterforce implies an all-out attempt to destroy the other
side’s forces, which otherwise are sure to be used.
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potential, including reinforcements and mobilization capacity, could
increase the longer the war’s duration. Likewise, economic resilience,
political support, and international assistance could affect the ability
of one or both sides to continue fighting. Both the United States and
China have considerable, if asymmetric, capacity to prolong a conflict
that neither one is militarily compelled or politically ready to end.
A critical question is whether one side or the other can achieve
such a clear advantage in the early stages of an intense conflict that the
other has little choice but to concede. The U.S. ability to achieve such
an advantage is declining as China improves its A2AD capabilities. At
the same time, China’s increasing ability to prevent a decisive, early
U.S. advantage does not necessarily translate into its ability to conclude
a war quickly on its terms.
Because a mild conflict would place smaller demands on total
war-making capacity than a severe one would, it could have a greater
potential than the latter to drag on—even becoming a “frozen conflict.”
Conversely, and obviously, a long, severe conflict would involve
greater costs on both sides than other cases in military, economic, and
political terms. That a long, severe conflict would be the most costly
does not mean it is the least likely. The disposition at any moment to
keep fighting depends not only on results, losses, and costs to that
point but also on expectations of what is to come. As long as neither
side expects to lose, hostilities might continue.
The United States presently has more military capacity than
China to wage a long, severe war. For one thing, the United States
has substantial forces located in or designated for other regions that
it could bring to bear on a conflict in the Western Pacific, though
security conditions in those regions might make it reluctant to do so.16
(Over the years, the Pentagon has crept away from its traditional standard
of having sufficient total forces to win two major wars simultane-
16 Although the United States has global responsibilities and interests that could be jeopardized
by diverting capabilities to the Asia-Pacific, we assume that the United States would
nevertheless commit such capabilities to the theater in the event of a long, severe war with
China. Even if another contingency involving U.S. interests developed simultaneously in
another region, U.S. forces already in the region could still degrade Chinese A2AD capabilities
faster than Chinese A2AD capabilities could degrade U.S. forces.
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ously.) Furthermore, U.S. forces today could degrade Chinese A2AD
capabilities faster than Chinese A2AD capabilities could degrade U.S.
forces. While both might suffer significant losses in early severe hostilities,
U.S. prospects currently look better than China’s.
Future conditions could differ, owing to the potential for greater
losses of U.S. forces from Chinese A2AD and, in turn, reduced Chinese
losses from those U.S. forces. Moreover, as U.S. military-operational
advantages wane, China’s position as the “home team” could become
less of a liability and more of an asset, owing to internal lines of communication
and movement. A corollary of these shifting military odds
is that the expected duration of war, however intense, could increase
as Chinese capabilities improve, for the simple reason that China will
retain more warfighting capability and face less pressure to yield. More
generally stated, the less lopsided a war is likely to be, the less likely it is
to end quickly in victory by the stronger side. Since Chinese and U.S.
capabilities, operating concepts, incentives, and expectations all point
to severe hostilities, this could mean that a war could last longer and
be costlier than has been assumed or, paradoxically, than either side
would want.
The hypothesis of a long, severe, and costly war is depicted in
Figure 2.1 as notional graphs of expected cumulative declines, or attrition,
in military capability over time in 2015 and 2025, a period during
which Chinese A2AD capability is expected to improve relative to U.S.
strike capability. The dotted lines in Figure 2.1 represent a hypothetical
moment (T1), within days of the start (T0), when the sides take stock
and decide whether to continue fighting. For our purposes, the figure
separates a short conflict from a long one. T2 is posited as one year;
although fighting could continue beyond that, the pattern of losses
would remain more or less the same. The first graph (2015) shows that
China and the United States both suffer significant but unequal losses
in the brief early stage and can expect increasingly divergent losses as
war goes on, favoring the United States. The second (2025) shows the
effects of improved Chinese A2AD in years to come: China suffers
reduced, though still sizable, short-term losses; the United States suffers
increased short-term losses; and the gap in expected long-term losses
closes.
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The intensity and duration of war are largely decided at T0 and
T1, respectively. The moment hostilities begin, Chinese and U.S. leaders
choose whether or not to authorize execution of military plans,
which are mainly to attack the forces of the other before those forces
can attack. The alternative is to decide, mutually, that fighting must
be tightly controlled and sharply restricted—in other words, mild.
Thus, the T0 decision might determine the war’s intensity, which in
these graphs is assumed to be severe from T0 to T2. At T1, after several
days of severe force-on-force violence, the leaders take stock of losses,
remaining capabilities, and expected further losses and decide whether
to keep fighting—in effect, they choose between a short and a long
war. Again, a decision by only one side to end fighting amounts to
capitulation. Note that China’s enhanced A2AD in 2025 will reduce
the gap between its losses and U.S. losses at T1. Because it could be less
clear which side is losing at T1, a severe war might be more likely to be
prolonged in 2025 than in 2015, despite mounting costs.
Figure 2.1
Notional Cumulative Decline in Military Capabilities in a Severe Conflict
over Time, 2015 and 2025
NOTES: T0 = the start of the conflict; T1 = a hypothetical moment, within days of
T0, when the sides decide whether to continue fighting; T2 = one year.
RAND RR1140-2.1
T0 T1 T2
2015
Time
United
States
China
United
States
China
T0 T1 T2
2025
Time
Military capability
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These considerations highlight the fallacy of assuming that particularly
violent hostilities would not last long (as European leaders did in
1914!). Again, the Chinese have favored and planned for a brief, intense
war because they think it is the only way not to lose. However, this
perspective ignores that the United States is looking at a mirror image:
After brief and intense fighting, U.S. prospective losses will be less than
those of China. Yet if the United States has until now thought that an
intense war would be short because Chinese losses would exceed U.S.
losses by a growing margin as fighting persists, it should think again.
Going forward, both China and the United States need to contemplate
the possibility of a severe, lengthy, uncontrollable, and devastating,
yet indecisive, conflict. If war somehow broke out and both
sides faced such prospects, they would not necessarily be motivated to
stop fighting by agreement. History offers little encouragement that
opponents locked in a bloody but inconclusive war will agree to foreshorten
it, rational as that might be.17 Therefore, the potential automaticity
and instability inherent in conventional counterforce places an
onus on political leaders to review, question, approve, and reexamine
warfighting plans.
Depending on choices made by political leaders among options
offered by military commanders, either a short war or a lengthy one
could be intense or mild; we examine all four cases. At the same time,
it seems more likely that a long but mild conflict would result more
from initially mild fighting than from initially intense fighting and,
conversely, that intense fighting will remain intense as long as the war
lasts. After all, both world wars started with ferocity, which persisted
and even intensified more or less for their durations. Of course, it
cannot be ruled out that a war could begin fiercely but then settle into
a low-grade one, as both sides conclude they cannot win, refuse to concede,
and try to moderate their losses.
One of the most vexing trade-offs leaders face in determining how
intensely and how long to fight is between the cost of fighting and the
17 By 1917, the combination of staggering losses and diminished confidence of victory led
voices in Germany, Great Britain, and France to suggest the need to negotiate, but both sides
opted to fight on (until the U.S. entry into the war decided the outcome).
24 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
cost of losing. The former will tend to motivate restricting the conflict
even if it means forfeiting advantage; the latter will tend to motivate
doing what it takes to win, including intensifying, expanding, and prolonging
the conflict. To illustrate, the United States might feel reasonably
confident that it could win in an intense war with China yet face
such severe costs that it might rather keep the war limited and accept
an outcome short of victory, though presumably consistent with U.S.
interests. Conversely, China might regard the price of losing a war with
the United States over, say, Taiwan as so high that it would endure the
costs of an intense, and perhaps lengthy, conflict. Broadly speaking, as
prospects of either side clearly winning decline, as might be the case in
coming years, both sides ought to place greater weight on the costs of
fighting—a key reason why both must rigorously think through what
consequences a war could have.
The costs of a conflict are mainly a function of intensity and
duration.18 Least costly, obviously, is a brief, mild war; most costly, a
long, severe one. The kinds of costs vary over time: Initially, military
losses will dominate; in time, economic costs will grow, and military
losses might decline as counterforce capabilities do. Domestic political
constraints and pressures might be in play from the outset, but these,
too, could gain strength and even sway leaders’ choices as military
losses and economic costs mount. Likewise, international reactions
and uncertainties—alarm, condemnation, opposition, political support,
physical support, and realignments—might grow over time and
with severity.
Using duration and intensity as the main variables in describing
the path of war suggests a matrix of four cases: brief, mild; long, mild;
brief, severe; and long, severe. (Other possibilities are not examined but
could be interpolated.) The assumptions for each case are shown in
Table 2.1.
18 The costs of war also vary as a function of the vulnerability of the combatants. In the
case of a Sino-U.S. war, forces in the theater are increasingly vulnerable, and dependence
on global (including each other’s) resources, products, and markets makes both economies
vulnerable. However, China would be far more exposed to homeland attack and economic
isolation.
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Table 2.1
Matrix of the Four Cases
Brief Long
Mild
Premise: Leaders restrict hostilities
and quickly agree to end conflict.
Description:
• Hostilities are triggered by
incident or miscalculation,
possibly involving a third
party.
• Political leaders take immediate
and tight control of operations,
communicate directly,
withhold authority for major
attacks on opposing forces,
and agree to end conflict with
no change in the status quo.
• Hostilities end within a week
or so.
Premise: Leaders restrict hostilities
but do not agree to end conflict.
Description:
• This is an extension of the
brief, mild case.
• Political control keeps hostilities
limited.
• Forces of both sides are
augmented and operate in
close proximity. Incidents
and losses are sporadic but
continue.
• Leaders communicate but
cannot agree on terms to end
fighting.
• Low-grade conflict is economically
and politically sustainable,
as neither side wants
to concede or to wage costly
war.
• Conflict persists for a year or
more.
Severe
Premise: War-winning logic and
counterforce strategies govern from
the outset.
Description:
• Stakes are very important for
both sides.
• Crisis becomes unstable
because of counterforce
pressures.
• Military concept of operations
executed immediately by both
sides. China uses kill chain to
attack U.S. aircraft carriers and
air bases. Simultaneously, U.S.
attacks kill chain.
• There are selective U.S. strikes
on China.
• Both sides wage selective
cyberwar.
• Military-operational exigencies
dictate fast pace and
severe intensity.
• Political leaders get control
only by agreeing on terms to
end conflict.
• Conflict lasts a week or so.
Premise: Severe fighting persists per
war-winning logic, absence of clear
winner, deepened antagonism, and
strengthened resolve.
Description:
• Leaders cannot or choose not
to stop.
• Losses make compromise
harder, not easier.
• Extensive U.S. strikes on
China.
• Nonnuclear escalation occurs:
geographically, and with
respect to targets, weapons,
expanded cyberwar, and
ASAT.
• Both sides face continued
high losses.
• Both sides bring more forces
into action; China mobilizes
for long war as losses mount.
• Conflict persists for a year or
more.
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Note once again that the main factor in determining whether a
war is restrained or severe from the outset is whether political leaders
give their militaries the green light for counterforce attacks. One can
speculate on both institutional and rational-choice grounds whether
restraint would be exercised. U.S. civilian control of the military is firm
in principle and practice. Though the current Chinese president has felt
a need to tighten control over the PLA, little information is available to
assess how current Chinese civilian and military leaders would handle
command authority during wartime. Even with adequate institutional
safeguards on both sides, the logic of striking without delay is potent.
Because hesitation could result in operational losses and disadvantages
too great to overcome, the “safe” course might be to strike enemy forces
promptly, if not first.
Note also that lower stakes and inadvertent violence are less likely
to precipitate severe hostilities than higher stakes and a considered
choice of war are. Furthermore, a long conflict will likely conform
to the level of intensity established at its outset. In the severe case,
though costs are great on both sides, neither one is likely to have clearly
better prospects. Also, if the stakes are important, high losses can work
against rather than for accommodation and cessation. Even if fighting
is restricted and sporadic, its continuation might appear less costly, at
least politically, than conceding the matter at hand.
Upper and Lower Limits
Before estimating the possible losses, costs, and other effects of these
four cases, it is worth considering the lower and upper limits of a war’s
severity.
One can easily imagine a conflict between China and the United
States below the threshold of what has been described here as “mild.”
Just as Russia has used nonviolent means, along with some violent ones
(e.g., so-called little green men) to intervene in and carve out chunks
of Ukraine, China has and uses an array of military and nonmilitary
means to advance its interests at the expense of its neighbors and of
the United States. Indeed, China is pursuing such a strategy (sans little
Analytic Framework 27
green men) to press its sweeping territorial claims in the East China
and South China Seas: interfering with other states’ vessels, placing oil
rigs and artificial islands in disputed waters, and menacingly reminding
neighbors that “China is a big country and other countries are
small countries, and that’s just a fact.”19 Clearly, the Chinese seek to
isolate and pressure neighbors without triggering U.S. intervention.
Just as clearly, the United States and its allies, including Japan, can and
will engage in reciprocal actions.20 To the extent both China and the
United States are involved, one can see a sort of conflict that is short of
violent use of force. U.S. strategy to thwart such a Chinese campaign is
important but not germane to this study. Although the costs and consequences
of such “gray area” conflict would be even lower than those
of a mild armed conflict, as defined earlier, there is some possibility
that regional commerce could suffer as a result.
 
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At the other extreme, the long, severe case is not necessarily
the upper limit of what war could entail and cost. The United States
and China are the world’s strongest nations, with the largest economies,
two of the three biggest populations, vast human and natural
resources, and unsurpassed war-making capacity. While the two countries
have important convergent peacetime interests, there is also considerable
“strategic distrust” between them.21 Should they go to war,
distrust could turn to deep antagonism, and the logic of conflict could
make possible levels of violence, duration, and cost that might appear
unjustifiable in times of peace. In modern history, wars involving great
and more or less evenly matched powers have sucked in numerous
third parties (not just prewar allies), lasted years, metastasized to other
regions, and forced belligerents to shift their economies to a war footing
and their societies to a war psyche. Whole populations suspend
19 Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi’s quoted in John Pomfret, “U.S. Takes a Tougher
Tone with China,” The Washington Post, July 30, 2010.
20 In their bilateral security consultations, the Japanese and Americans have identified
Chinese “gray area” aggression as contingencies that require heightened attention and joint
planning.
21 The apt term strategic distrust was coined in Kenneth Lieberthal and Wang Jisi, Addressing
U.S.-Chinese Strategic Distrust, Washington, D.C.: John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings
Institution, 2012.
28 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
normal life; large fractions of them are prepared or forced to throw
their weight behind their nation’s fight. Not just states but opposing
ideologies, worldviews, and political systems might be pitted against
each other. Whatever their initial causes, such wars’ outcomes might
determine which great powers and their blocs survive as such. Prewar
international systems collapse or are transformed to serve the victors’
interests. Thus, the costs of failing outweigh those of fighting.
Consider how the Napoleonic wars engulfed all of Europe, how
World War I destroyed several empires and enlarged others, and how
allied goals in World War II became the complete destruction of
German fascism and Japanese militarism, rather than merely stopping
their aggression. In such cases, war aims and acts of destruction might
exceed belligerents’ early intentions by a wide margin. Regimes of the
losing side usually vanish. The threshold of tolerable costs might rise as
fighting persists and the penalty for losing increases. There have been
exceptions: Prussia’s victories in the three wars of German unification
and the American victory over Spain come to mind. But these were
one-sided affairs between mismatched powers ending quickly and decisively,
without spreading or drawing in other powers.
Would a war between China and the United States resemble the
great-power wars of modern history—expansive, systemic, desperate?
Would hostilities erase all residue of mutual interest in an international
order that has served both countries well? Would the escalating costs
of conflict seem tolerable compared with those of losing? Would the
enemy be demonized? Would populations become targets?
The only honest answer to such questions is that no one knows.
As we will see, the increasing probability of inconclusive hostilities
between China and the United States might suggest a bias toward a
long, severe, bitter war. Moreover, it cannot be excluded that such a
Sino-U.S. war could develop characteristics of the two great-power
wars that became “world wars”: drawing in others, engulfing and spilling
beyond the region, locking the two political systems and populations
into a fight to finish, ending in unconditional surrender, dictated
peace, occupation, regime extinction, and domination.
At the same time, the expansion and immense destructiveness of
modern great-power wars have resulted mainly from large and ferocious
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land campaigns and strategic bombing, aimed at conquest. Although
one cannot rule it out, such war aims and fighting seem unlikely in
even a major Sino-U.S. war unless it stemmed from miscalculations
during a conflict on the Korean peninsula. Moreover, the United States
would restrain, if not avoid, strategic bombing of China lest it precipitate
nuclear war. Having said this, it could be that the long, severe case
offered here for analytic purposes might not set the upper limit of a
possible war between China and the United States.
The possibility of a long and severe war, in which willingness to
accept hardship and to inflict harm grows as fighting lasts, returns us
to the question of whether such a war might result in the use of nuclear
weapons. We assess the probability of that to be very low and so do
not include the effects of nuclear warfare in our analysis of losses and
costs.22 The general reason for this is that mutual deterrence prevails in
the Sino-U.S. strategic-nuclear relationship.23
Nonetheless, it is worth examining the circumstances in which
the risk of nuclear war, however low, could be at its highest. In a prolonged
and severe conflict, it is conceivable that Chinese military leaders
would propose and Chinese political leaders would consider using
nuclear weapons in the following circumstances:
• Chinese forces are at risk of being totally destroyed.
• The Chinese homeland has been rendered defenseless against U.S.
conventional attacks; such attacks are extensive and go beyond
military targets, perhaps to include political leadership.
• Domestic economic and political conditions are growing so dire
that the state itself could collapse.
• U.S. conventional strikes include or are perceived to include capabilities
that are critical to China’s strategic deterrent—notably
intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs), ballistic missile sub-
22 Obviously, losses and costs to both countries in the event of nuclear war could be at least
an order of magnitude greater than the worst of the conventional-war cases examined here.
23 The stability of the Sino-U.S. nuclear relationship is explained in Chapter Four of David
C. Gompert and Phillip C. Saunders, The Paradox of Power: Sino-American Strategic Restraint
in an Age of Vulnerability, Washington, D.C.: Center for the Study of Chinese Military
Affairs, National Defense University, 2011.
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marines (SSBNs), strategic C2—which the Chinese interpret as
preparation for a U.S. first strike or intended to leave China vulnerable
to U.S. nuclear coercion.
Thus, it cannot be entirely excluded that the Chinese leadership
would decide that only the use of nuclear weapons would prevent total
defeat and the state’s destruction. However, even under such desperate
conditions, the resort to nuclear weapons would not be China’s only
option: It could instead accept defeat. Indeed, because U.S. nuclear
retaliation would make the destruction of the state and collapse of the
country all the more certain, accepting defeat would be a better option
(depending on the severity of U.S. terms) than nuclear escalation. This
logic, along with China’s ingrained no-first-use policy, suggests that
Chinese first use is most improbable.24
At the same time, if Chinese leaders faced such a dire situation
and also had reason to think that the United States was preparing to
launch a first strike to disable China’s deterrent, they might consider
the first use of nuclear weapons (even though, objectively, it might not
be rational). But this also seems like an extremely remote possibility for
the simple reason that the United States would have no reason to resort
to nuclear weapons if it were already on the verge of conventional victory
over China.
Even so, it is important for the United States to be aware of potentially
dangerous ambiguities involved in attacks on targets that the
Chinese could regard as strategic: attacks on missile launchers, even
if intended only to degrade China’s theater-range missile capabilities;
attacks on high-level military C2, even if intended only to degrade
China’s conventional-operational capabilities; cyberwarfare attacks on
strategic systems; attacks on Beijing (whatever the reason); and heightened
U.S. ballistic missile defense operations that could be seen as
intended to degrade Chinese strategic retaliation. Keep in mind, as
well, that the Chinese might perceive U.S. conventional capabilities
24 As a corollary, if China were to use nuclear weapons first, it could be a “warning shot”—a
relatively harmless detonation in a remote area—as opposed to nuclear attack on U.S. forces,
territory, or allies.
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(e.g., global strike, cyberwarfare, ASAT) as potentially aimed at disabling
China’s strategic deterrent.
As low as the probability of Chinese first use is, even in the most
desperate circumstances of a prolonged and severe war, the United
States could make it lower still by exercising great care with regard to
the extensiveness of homeland attacks and by avoiding altogether targets
that the Chinese could interpret as critical to their deterrent.
As for U.S. initiation of nuclear war with China, this seems even
more far-fetched. Unlike circumstances in which the Soviet Union
could not be stopped from defeating NATO and dominating all of
Europe unless the United States resorted to battlefield nuclear weapons,
the stakes of a Sino-U.S. war would not justify the incalculable
harm to the United States from Chinese retaliation. More bluntly put,
the Soviet threat to NATO was deemed existential, whereas as the Chinese
threat to U.S. allies and interests in East Asia is not. In line with
this, current U.S. declaratory policy concerning use of nuclear weapons
makes no allowance for first-use in the event of war with China, even
were it going badly.25
In sum, it seems unlikely that war between China and the United
States would “go global,” or “go nuclear.” In either case, the losses,
costs, and other consequences for both and the world would dwarf
those estimated for a severe and prolonged conventional conflict in the
Western Pacific. Still, the possibility of a true cataclysm is all the more
reason to think through carefully the paths and risks of war.
25 U.S. policy reserves the option of nuclear first use mainly in retaliation for a biological
attack.
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CHAPTER THREE
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political,
and International
With the understanding that the consequences of world war and
of nuclear war fall outside our scope, we can now examine possible
effects, losses, costs, constraints, pressures, and responses that could
occur during Sino-U.S. war, depending on its severity and duration.
Military Losses
Calculating expected military losses in a Sino-U.S. armed conflict is
exceedingly difficult. For purposes of understanding the major issues
surrounding whether and how such a conflict might be fought, it is
sufficient to estimate indicatively the nature and seriousness of losses
of each side, how they might compare, how they might vary according
to the severity and duration of the conflict, and how they might affect
decisionmaking on both sides. Accordingly, the method used here is
to meld the broad judgments of several analysts.1 Of interest are losses
relative to prewar capabilities, losses of each side compared with the
other, and residual warfighting capabilities, all of which would bear on
both the ability and will to continue fighting.
1 The judgments here are informed by the Sino-U.S. conflict scenarios from RAND Arroyo
Center research by Terrence K. Kelly, David C. Gompert, and Duncan Long, which will be
presented in Smarter Power, Stronger Partners: Exploiting U.S. Advantages to Prevent Aggression,
Santa Monica, Calif.: RAND Corporation, RR-1359-A, forthcoming.
34 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
Severe cases for both 2015 and 2025 are considered, anticipating
Chinese A2AD improvements.2 Losses in brief conflicts (up to T1) are
among forces engaged and targetable from the outset. Additional losses
in prolonged conflicts (from T1 to T2) could include reinforcements—
perhaps nearly all extant Chinese air and naval forces and those U.S.
air and naval forces not deemed indispensable for missions elsewhere
(e.g., in Europe or the Middle East).
Prospective losses in forces during a severe Sino-U.S. conflict
would depend on the counterforce capabilities and operations of the
two sides, of course. To expand on an earlier observation, advances
in information technology and other targeting systems—sensors, onboard
and off-board precision weapon guidance, global positioning,
and data networking and processing—are making weapon platforms,
such as surface ships and manned aircraft, increasingly vulnerable at
greater distances. In addition to increasing the reward of attacking first
and the penalty of not doing so, these capabilities point to the potential
for heavier, faster losses among vulnerable forces than at any time in
modern conventional warfare.3
The assessments that follow try to capture this dynamic. They
include broad-brush narratives of the cases and graphs that illustratively
depict losses. The categories covered include combat aircraft,
surface naval vessels, submarines, missiles and missile launchers of
all types (land, sea, and air), and C4ISR. Aircraft losses could result
from loss or degradation of air bases and aircraft carriers, as well as air
combat and air defense. Surface ship losses could result from attacks by
other surface ships, submarines, air, or missile attacks. Submarines are
vulnerable to anti-submarine warfare (ASW), including opposing submarines,
and strikes on bases. Losses in missile launchers could occur
from air or missile strikes or destroyed platforms (e.g., ships), as well
as from missiles expended. Mobile land-based missile launchers, which
Chinese forces possess in greater abundance than U.S. forces, might
2 U.S. force improvements are assumed to be those provided for in the exiting long-range
U.S. defense program.
3 This counterforce phenomenon does not apply to cyberwarfare or ASAT warfare, in
which attacks do not diminish the other side’s capability to attack.
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 35
be less vulnerable. C4ISR losses could result from cyberwar or ASAT
attacks. Cyberwar and ASAT attacks could also compound losses of
forces that depend on C4ISR for their effectiveness. Additional details
are in Appendix A.
An important consideration in estimating U.S. losses and comparing
them with Chinese losses is the share of total (global) U.S.
forces engaged. The greater that share, the better the United States
would do militarily. However, committing more U.S. forces to the theater
would also increase those that are targetable and vulnerable to
Chinese A2AD. Very broadly speaking, more U.S. forces would mean
a larger and more violent war, with higher losses on both sides but
higher expectations of U.S. victory. The share of U.S. forces committed
would be determined by trading off the demands of the war against the
effect on security in other regions of diverting U.S. forces. The latter,
in turn, could be affected by the extent to which U.S. allies, notably
NATO, could “cover” for the diversion of U.S. forces elsewhere. Our
main interest is in naval, air, land-based missile, air-defense, and intelligence,
surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities, since Sino-
U.S. war presumably would not involve large land combat. The U.S.
Department of Defense has said that 60 percent of U.S. air and naval
forces will be based in the Pacific by 2020.4 Accordingly, the assumption
here is that in the course of a prolonged war with China, the
United States would commit 60 percent of its global capabilities; U.S.
military losses are estimated relative to that. If the figure were higher
in the event, losses on both sides could increase.
Table 3.1 provides estimates of military losses for cases of severe
fighting for one year, more or less. It is assumed that cases of tightly
restricted fighting would involve minor and roughly equivalent military
losses.
Estimated losses can be presented graphically, similar to the earlier
graphs of hypothetical losses in 2015 and 2025. Figure 3.1 shows
aggregate cumulative losses, with graphs for each of the force categories
discussed in Appendix A. Losses are shown from top to bottom, start-
4 Robert Work, Deputy Secretary of Defense, statement to the Council of Foreign Relations,
January 20, 2015.
36 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
Table 3.1
Estimated Military Losses, Severe Case, 2015
Capability U.S. Losses Chinese Losses
Air forces Some possibility of early loss of
a carrier to Chinese submarines
or missiles and of use of
regional air bases to missiles.
Significant aircraft losses to
Chinese surface-to-air missiles
until suppressed.
Sharp loss of air power
from U.S. air strikes, air
intercept, and air defense.
Reinforcements are less capable
and more vulnerable. China can
keep some aircraft hidden but
out of use.
Surface naval
forces
Significant early losses of
forward fleet because of
submarine and missile attacks.
Losses can be limited by
keeping fleet out of range, or
out of effective use. Strikes
on Chinese anti-naval forces
reduce U.S. losses in time.
Heavy initial and sustained
fleet losses because of U.S. air
power and submarines. Naval
bases vulnerable. Chinese
shipbuilding capacity only takes
effect in the long term (post-T2)
and is vulnerable.
Submarines Largely invulnerable to poor
and quickly depleted Chinese
ASW capability.
Older submarines vulnerable
to U.S. ASW. A few advanced
ones survive and threaten U.S.
surface forces.
Missile launchers
(land, surface,
submarine, air)
and missile
inventories
Surface ship-launch and shortrange
air-launch platforms
suffer attrition. Submarinelaunch
and long-range
air-launch survive. Major
expenditure of missiles.
Land launchers survive if mobile
or hidden. U.S. air power and
missiles eventually wear down
Chinese missile launchers. Also
susceptible to degraded C4ISR.
Large fraction of modern
missiles expended early, leaving
older, less accurate shorterrange
ones.
C4ISR (computer
systems and
satellites)
Some loss because of Chinese
cyberwar and ASAT, which are
difficult to suppress.
Some loss because of U.S.
cyberwar and ASAT capabilities.
Also, untested C2 processes
could unravel under pressure
of war.
Aggregate Chinese counterforce
capabilities take a major early
toll on the United States but
then have less of an effect as
they are degraded by superior
U.S. counterforce.
U.S. counterforce capabilities
take a major toll early and
throughout as Chinese A2AD is
degraded.
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ing with full capabilities when the war begins. The green band signifies
modest losses; yellow, significant losses; orange, heavy losses; and red,
very heavy losses.5
Illustratively, each band might be thought of as roughly a tenth
or so of effective capabilities committed. These estimates are based on
raw judgments of several analysts, rather than on calculations predicated
on detailed war games or computer simulations. The width of the
curves signifies uncertainty, which increases the longer fighting lasts.
Note that China would suffer significantly greater losses than the
United States by T1, as its weapons are expended and its platforms and
bases are struck. Thereafter, as more U.S. strike power is committed
and Chinese defenses are degraded, the differential in losses contin-
5 Depending on the category, decline in effective capabilities could be measured in ships
or aircraft lost, in missiles used or destroyed, or in the degradation of C4ISR performance
because of loss of space assets or networks.
Figure 3.1
Estimated Aggregate Loss in Military Capability, Severe Case, 2015
NOTES: Losses are shown from top to bottom, starting with full capabilities when the
war begins. The green band signifies modest losses; yellow, significant losses; orange,
heavy losses; and red, very heavy losses.
RAND RR1140-3.1
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
Aggregate loss
38 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
ues or expands. Though large, this gap has been reduced by Chinese
deployment of advanced A2AD capabilities, prompting the U.S. military
to consider striking those capabilities, which are mainly on Chinese
territory.
At present, if the United States were to discount the risk of escalation
and unleash its strike power at the stroke of T0, Chinese losses at
T1 and beyond could be even greater than shown in the figure. Likewise,
China might be able to reduce the gap in losses at T1 and beyond
by attacking U.S. strike forces preemptively. The potential difference in
losses depending on which side strikes first (though not shown graphically)
underscores the instability inherent in counterforce capabilities
and concepts on both sides.
Presumably, China would be as aware as the United States that
the gap in losses at T1 would keep growing in a prolonged war (as
shown). Using our scale, the decline in Chinese capabilities (as defined
earlier) by T2 could be extremely heavy, whereas U.S. losses could be
significant but less heavy. Apart from a preemptive attack on U.S.
forces, China’s best chance, though perhaps not a very good one, is to
seek a quick end to severe fighting. The wide gap in losses from outset
to finish suggests that Chinese planning for a short war is wishful,
perhaps based on a belief that the United States would not have the
stomach to fight after suffering significant losses (which would be a
misreading of the history of U.S. war making).6
By 2025, China will likely have more, better, and longer-range
ballistic missiles and cruise missiles; advanced air defenses; latestgeneration
aircraft; quieter submarines; more and better sensors; and
the digital communications, processing power, and C2 necessary to
operate an integrated kill chain. The United States, it is assumed here,
will have modernized versions of the platform-centric force-projection
capabilities on which it has relied for some decades, despite their growing
vulnerability to Chinese A2AD. Prospective losses in a severe war
would change accordingly, as shown in Table 3.2 and Figure 3.2.
6 Think of World War II (after Pearl Harbor), the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the
recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Improved Chinese A2AD would increase losses of U.S. strike
forces, which in turn might lower Chinese losses. Note especially that
while the United States would still have an advantage at T1, it could be
less pronounced. Because actual losses at T1 and expected losses thereafter
do not indicate a clear winner, there could be a greater inclination
on both sides to continue hostilities. If so, the gap between U.S. and
Chinese losses could be smaller in 2025 than in 2015, and could even
Table 3.2
Estimated Military Losses, Severe Case, 2025
Capability U.S. Losses Chinese Losses
Air forces Early and subsequent loss of
carriers to submarines and
missiles. Degraded use of
regional air bases because
of missile attack. Aircraft
losses to improved Chinese air
defense and air force.
U.S. air power losses improve
survivability of Chinese air
power. China has moreadvanced
aircraft and improved
refueling. Losses are still
substantial.
Surface naval
forces
Major losses early and
throughout from improved
Chinese submarines, missiles,
and air power. Somewhat
mitigated by increased
weapon ranges.
Marginally less vulnerable
because of degraded U.S. sea
and air power. U.S. submarines
cause major losses.
Submarines Somewhat more vulnerable to
improved Chinese ASW.
More-advanced submarines are
less vulnerable to ASW than
older ones.
Missile launchers
(land, surface,
submarine, air)
and missile
inventories
Increased vulnerability of
surface-naval and air-launch
platforms. Large missile
expenditures starting early
and throughout.
Reduced vulnerability of
launchers to U.S. air and
missile attacks. Increased
numbers and sophistication.
Large expenditures early and
throughout.
C4ISR (computer
systems and
satellites)
Sharp initial and sustained
degradation from improved
Chinese cyberwar and ASAT
capabilities.
Sharp initial and sustained
degradation from improved U.S.
cyberwar and ASAT capabilities.
Aggregate Improved and less vulnerable
Chinese A2AD produces
increased U.S. losses early and
throughout.
Increased loss of U.S. strike
forces could reduce losses of
Chinese forces, though still
greater than U.S. losses early
and throughout.
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shrink after T1. The overlap of the loss curves by T2 indicates that the
United States might not be able to gain a decisive military-operational
advantage in 2025 even with the prolongation of fighting.
Apart from the gap between them, note that U.S. and Chinese
military losses in a long, severe 2025 war would both be very heavy—
U.S. losses because of China’s improved A2AD, and China’s losses
despite its improved A2AD. By T2, Chinese losses could remain very
heavy, whereas U.S. losses in the region could be heavy (notably, heavier
than in 2015). This implies a sizable depletion in overall U.S. military
capabilities and an even larger depletion in overall Chinese military
capabilities, with implications for postwar security in this and other
regions. Yet with no clear winner, neither side able to gain control, and
heavy losses causing deep anger on both sides, prospects for agreement
to foreshorten the war could be lower than they are now.
Figure 3.2
Estimated Aggregate Loss in Military Capability, Severe Case, 2025
NOTES: Losses are shown from top to bottom, starting with full capabilities when the
war begins. The green band signifies modest losses; yellow, significant losses;
orange, heavy losses; and red, very heavy losses.
RAND RR1140-3.2
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
Aggregate loss
}overlap
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 41
Economic Costs
Owing to the size, interdependence, and global integration of the U.S.
and Chinese economies, a Sino-U.S. war could be immensely costly
for the belligerents, East Asia, and the world. These vulnerabilities are
a major reason why war, at least a premeditated one, is so unlikely, even
though the two states are and likely will remain at odds over a number
of regional disputes. Should a war nevertheless occur (perhaps from a
mismanaged crisis), the scale of economic costs would depend on its
severity and duration. In contrast to military losses, even a mild level of
hostilities, if prolonged, could inflict serious economic harm. But the
focus here is on the economic effects of severe hostilities.
Estimating economic costs of a Sino-U.S. war is, if anything,
more difficult than estimating military losses, for such costs depend
not only on military developments but also on the response of sundry
economic actors and markets with limited degrees of state control: government
policy responses, possible economic warfare, the fate of industrial
enterprises, the effect on and reactions of consumers and workers,
international financial institutions, debt and equity markets, and third
parties (i.e., trading partners). Accordingly, the analysis that follows is
meant not to be definitive but instead illustrative of the sorts and scale
of costs in the different cases.
To summarize current economic conditions:
• China’s GDP is about $9 trillion and has been growing at 7 percent
annually, although many economists believe that growth will
slow, and some argue that growth rates are exaggerated.7
7 International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, October 2014. For
more information about projections of future growth and the accuracy of reported growth
rates, see Center for Strategic and International Studies, “Long-Term Growth Rates: Can
China Maintain Its Current Growth?” Washington, D.C., October 2009; Bob Davis,
“China Growth Seen Slowing Sharply over Decade,” The Wall Street Journal, October 20,
2014; Yukon Huang, “China’s Misleading Economic Indicators,” Financial Times, August
29, 2014; and Derek Scissors, “China’s Real GDP [Growth] Is Slower Than Official Figures
Show,” Financial Times, January 20, 2015.
42 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
• U.S. GDP is about $17 trillion and is growing at 2 percent
annually.8
• China’s exports to the United States were about $440 billion in
2013—roughly 20 percent of U.S. imports, 20 percent of Chinese
exports, and 5 percent of China’s GDP.9
• China’s imports from the United States were about $122 billion
in 2013—roughly 6 percent of Chinese imports, 8 percent of
U.S. exports, and under 1 percent of U.S. GDP.10
• China holds about $1.7 trillion in U.S. securities, including
about $1.3 trillion in U.S. Treasury bonds—about 25 percent of
all U.S. Treasury debt held by foreign countries.11
• Total Chinese direct investment in the U.S. is roughly $8 billion,
compared with total U.S. direct investment in China of over
$60 billion.12
• International trade is about 45 percent of China’s GDP and
25 percent of U.S. GDP.
• Chinese consumption is one-third of GDP (and climbing); U.S.
consumption is two-thirds of GDP.13
Key asymmetries include China’s greater reliance on international
trade in general (especially with regard to energy supplies), reliance on
exports to the United States in particular, and holdings of U.S. debt;
U.S. reliance on imports from China; U.S. direct investment in China;
and higher U.S. consumption as share of GDP. In considering the eco-
8 International Monetary Fund, 2014.
9 U.S. Census Bureau, “2013: U.S. Trade in Goods with China,” 2013; World Trade Organization,
“China,” trade profile, September 2014.
10 U.S. Census Bureau, 2013.
11 U.S. Department of the Treasury, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System, Foreign Portfolio Holdings of U.S. Securities, April 2014.
12 U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, “Balance of Payments and Direct Investment Position
Data (U.S. Direct Investment Position Abroad on a Historical-Cost Basis and Foreign Direct
Investment Position in the United States on a Historical-Cost Basis),” n.d.
13 World Bank, “Household Final Consumption Expenditure, etc. (% of GDP),” World
Development Indicators, 2014b.
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nomic costs of war, perhaps the most significant asymmetry is that
intensive and extensive combat in the Western Pacific would disrupt
nearly all Chinese trade (95 percent of it being seaborne), whereas the
United States would mainly suffer the loss of bilateral trade with China
and, to a much lesser extent than China, trade with the rest of East
Asia.14 This might be thought of as the war-zone effect on trade.
This particular asymmetry between China and the United States
is depicted in concentric circles in Figure 3.3. The center circles represent
bilateral (Sino-U.S.) trade, the middle circles represent other
regional trade, and the outer circles represent other global trade. The
percentages shown in each circle indicate the share of that country’s
global trade. The depiction is intended as impressionistic, not to exact
14 China’s access to the rest of East Asia would be affected much more than would U.S.
access.
Figure 3.3
Illustrative War-Zone Effect on Trade
China United States
NOTES: The center circles represent bilateral (Sino-U.S.) trade, the middle circles
represent other regional trade, and the outer circles represent other global trade.
The percentages shown in each circle indicate the share of that country’s global
trade. The difference in size represents China’s greater dependence on trade. Red
indicates extreme vulnerability of trade in the event of a major war; yellow,
signicant vulnerability; and green, minor vulnerability.
RAND RR1140-3.3
10%
40%
50%
15%
10%
75%
44 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
scale. The difference in size represents China’s greater dependence on
trade than the United States.
The figure also shows the potential vulnerability of trade in the
event of war. Red indicates the extreme vulnerability of trade in the
event of a major war; yellow, significant vulnerability; and green, minor
vulnerability.
Thus, China’s bilateral trade with the United States and other
regional trade could be extremely vulnerable, whereas for the United
States, only trade with China would be greatly affected. Overall, most
of China’s trade (except for the small overland fraction) is vulnerable
to disruptions in seaborne trade in the Western Pacific, whereas most
U.S. trade is not.15 This, as we will see, has asymmetric effects on GDP
in the event of war.
The vulnerability of Chinese trade begs a further question: Would
the United States forcibly blockade nonmilitary sea and air transport
to and from China? Keep in mind that both sides have large arrays of
capabilities to destroy ships and aircraft—anti-surface and anti-air missiles,
air strike power, submarines, and surface-naval strike power, not
to mention cyberwar—as well as incentives to use them. Also, while
the United States has sophisticated sensors to distinguish military from
nonmilitary targets, during war it will focus on finding and tracking
the former; moreover, Chinese ISR is less sophisticated and discriminating,
especially at a distance. This suggests very hazardous airspace
and sea space, perhaps ranging from the Yellow Sea to the South China
Sea. Assuming that non-Chinese commercial enterprises would rather
lose revenue than ships or planes, the United States would not need to
use force to stop trade to and from China.16 China would lose a substantial
amount of trade that would be required to transit the war zone.
The United States expressly threatening commercial shipping would be
15 China could expand its overland trade during a war, especially with Russia. But that
would hardly make a dent in China’s loss of access to the rest of the world for markets, capital
goods, and materials.
16 The United States could inflict significant damage on Chinese shipping, as it has done
in previous severe conflicts against other countries. For example, U.S. submarines exacted
tremendous losses on Japanese shipping vessels in World War II; these losses were arguably
critical to Japan’s economic collapse during the war.
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 45
provocative, hazardous, and largely unnecessary. So we posit no U.S.
blockade, as such.
The analysis that follows assumes severe fighting, the duration of
which (from T0 to T1 to T2) would determine the magnitude of economic
effects. Rough costs are estimated in terms of effect on GDP
from disruptions of three economic functions: trade, consumption,
and income from overseas investments. The effects of energy-supply
disruption to China are considered as a component of the contraction
in trade, because most natural gas and crude oil consumed by China
are imported. It is assumed that the current conditions, importance,
and relationships of the U.S. and Chinese economies will not change
in character by 2025 (unlike expected changes in military capabilities
over that time).17
Only direct GDP losses are considered; no attempt has been made
to estimate the effect of war on the regional and global economies and,
in turn, the rebound impacts on the U.S. and Chinese economies.
Also not included are costs with little immediate effect on GDP per se
(e.g., damaged infrastructure, lost military systems, prompt and longterm
care for casualties, seized assets), though any of these costs could
be enormous.
Neither have we quantified a factor that could make China’s
losses substantially worse than those indicated below: the deepening
integration of the East Asian economy. The economies of China and its
neighbors (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and, increasingly, Southeast
Asia) are highly interdependent, owing to production value networks.
Much of East Asian trade is composed of intermediate goods and components:
Inputs produced in one country are shipped to another country
to be married with parts made elsewhere and assembled into a final
product before being fed into market distribution systems. While such
integration has contributed to the efficiency and productivity that have
enabled China and its neighbors to prosper, it also heightens East Asian
economies’ vulnerability to disruption, more so than traditional end-
17 Consummation of new East Asian or transpacific trade pacts will, if anything, deepen
economic integration and trade expansion in the coming decade.
46 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
product trade would. China could reduce its dependence on such interlocking
regional production only with great difficulty and cost.
The primary effect on GDP is from loss of trade. We are most
confident in the estimated collapse of Sino-U.S. bilateral trade, which
empirically falls to virtually zero between belligerents in the course of
war. But it is important also to take account of China’s loss of regional
and other global trade, given the war-zone effect. As shown in Figures
3.4 and 3.5, whether losses are confined to bilateral trade or may
include all trade makes a big difference in China’s GDP loss. Figure 3.4
shows the GDP impact from losses in trade, consumption, and income
from investment, albeit with only bilateral Sino-U.S. trade affected.
Figure 3.5 shows the GDP impact from losses in trade, consumption,
and income from investment, with Chinese trade with the United
Figure 3.4
Estimated Aggregate Effect on GDP from Losses in Bilateral Trade,
Consumption, and Income from Investment
NOTES: This graph illustrates the percentage by which GDP may decrease during war
as a result of losses in bilateral trade, consumption, and income from investment. The
upper limit of the y-axis indicates GDP at the start of war; as the war continues, GDP
at each point in time is given as a percentage of GDP at the start of war. The widths
of the curves suggest uncertainty.
RAND RR1140-3.4
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
GDP (%)
100
80
60
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 47
States, the region, and the rest of the world affected. The widths of the
curves suggest uncertainty. As with military losses, T2 is posited to be
one year.
Now, consider what could happen to GDP if China’s non-U.S.
regional and global trade, nearly all of it seaborne, were also affected
by widespread fighting in the Western Pacific. We assume that China’s
regional trade drops by 80 percent and its other global trade drops by
50 percent. (One reason regional and global trade do not drop even
more is that Chinese shippers might be ordered by the state to continue
operating.)
Indicative estimates of U.S. and Chinese economic costs of a prolonged
severe war are summarized in Table 3.3, the analysis and sourcing
for which can be found in Appendix B.
Figure 3.5
Estimated Aggregate Effect on GDP from Losses in Overall Trade,
Consumption, and Income from Investment
NOTES: This graph illustrates the percentage by which GDP may decrease during war
as a result of losses in overall (bilateral, regional, and global) trade, consumption,
and income from investment. The upper limit of the y-axis indicates GDP at the start
of war; as the war continues, GDP at each point in time is given as a percentage of
GDP at the start of war. The widths of the curves suggest uncertainty.
RAND RR1140-3.5
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
GDP (%)
100
80
60
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The estimated decline in China’s GDP can be compared with
Germany’s 29 percent decline in real GDP during World War I, when
Germany itself was spared heavy damage, as well as Germany’s 64 percent
GDP decline and Japan’s 52 percent GDP decline during World
War II, when both were heavily attacked.18 Of course, to suggest that
the Chinese would be unwilling or unable to fight on despite such costs
is to ignore that the Germans and Japanese withstood much greater
costs, along with widespread destruction, and did not surrender until
left with no choice. Moreover, the Chinese state would presumably
work to limit the impact on consumption, as we have estimated. Still,
the effects on China and its citizens of a one-third reduction in GDP
would obviously be grave and lasting. In contrast, the effects of a protracted
and severe conflict on the United States and its citizens, while
severe, would also be the equivalent of a serious recession.
In a restricted and mild conflict, economic costs from lost trade,
consumption, and income from overseas holdings would be similar in
kind, substantially less in magnitude, and asymmetrically harmful to
China.
In a more speculative vein, both China and the United States
would be vulnerable to economic costs in the event that cyberwar,
18 Robert J. Barro, “Rare Disasters and Asset Markets in the Twentieth Century,” Quarterly
Journal of Economics, Vol. 121, No. 3, August 2006.
Table 3.3
Estimated Economic Costs After One Year of Severe War
Category U.S. Costs Chinese Costs
Trade 90 percent decline in
bilateral trade
90 percent decline in bilateral trade
80 percent decline in regional trade
50 percent decline in global trade
Consumption 4 percent decline 4 percent decline
Income from
foreign direct
investment (asset
loss excluded)
$9 billion loss $500 million loss
Effects on GDP Could decline by
5–10 percent
Could decline by 25–35 percent
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which is likely to occur in a severe conflict, leapt from the military
domain to civilian domains. While each nation would have a strong
aversion to “general” cyberwar and so might be mutually deterred
from attacking the other’s nonmilitary computer networks, the ability
to contain cyberwar, once begun, is unknown—if not unknowable.19
Certain network infrastructure supports multiple computer systems,
and certain computer systems that support military operations are also
used for commercial or other civilian purposes. As an example, the
supply of U.S. forces in a major armed conflict might depend on logistics
firms, which rely mainly on open data systems, perhaps Internetbased,
to manage and move material. Would China refrain from trying
to degrade such systems in the event of war? Would the United States
refrain from attacking, say, systems that support the transport of Chinese
troops? Would both countries not be tempted to crash telecommunications
or air-traffic control or energy-distribution systems that
support fighting, or interfere with government-service networks? In
short, the “firebreak” separating military-operational cyberwar from
national-economic cyber could prove weak; once crossed, cyberwar
could spin out of control, affecting all sorts of critical information
infrastructure, the Internet, and commercial systems.
Very roughly speaking, China and the United States are equally
vulnerable to the harm such civilian cyberwar could cause, because
both economies and societies rely heavily on computer networks. Estimates
of the economic damage from a series of large-scale cyberattacks
on the United States range from $70 billion to $900 billion.20
With at least 200 million more Internet users than the United States,
China might have just as much to lose from targeting civilian cyber
infrastructure as does the United States. China’s economy has become
very integrated internally and with the rest of the world, and that integration
is enabled by potentially vulnerable data networking. Disrup-
19 For analysis of the potential and possible paths of cyberwar escalation, see Lawrence
Cavaiola, David Gompert, and Martin Libicki, “Cyber House Rules: On War, Retaliation
and Escalation,” Survival: Global Politics and Strategy, Vol. 57, No. 1, February–March 2015.
20 Scott Borg, “How Cyber Attacks Will Be Used in International Conflict,” paper presented
at the USENIX Security Technology Symposium, Washington, D.C., 2010.
50 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
tion of both internal and external commerce resulting from cyberattacks
could aggravate China’s economic costs of war. Both countries
are capable of patching, working around, and otherwise containing
the effects of cyber attacks; however, the cumulative effects of multiple
shocks in different sectors could cause appreciable reductions in production,
commerce, and consumption. While we offer no estimate of
the possible costs of escalating cyberwar, it is evident that they could
be very large on both sides in the event of a severe and protracted Sino-
U.S. conflict.
In sum, the economic harm caused by a Sino-U.S. war, unless
brief or mild, would be substantially greater to China than to the
United States, an asymmetry likely to persist if not grow by 2025.
Unlike the military balance, there is little China can do, given its need
for global markets and resources, to mitigate the economic risks of a
war with the United States.21 The economic integration that has made
China’s development possible exposes China to the risk that war could
bring that development to a screeching halt. While this should darken
any encouragement that China’s military might feel or convey about a
brightening military picture, it does not mean that the Chinese would
be unwilling or unable to bear such a price. Losing great powers have
endured much worse.
21 Because China is currently a large net importer of food, the question arises whether its
population is vulnerable to hunger in the event a war severely constricts seaborne trade. In
fact, China keeps large grain reserves in the event of catastrophic events, such as crop failures
or, in this case, war. In addition, in normal years, China remains domestically self-sufficient
in rice and wheat, the most important staples in the Chinese diet. As a result, according to
the World Bank, China’s food self-sufficiency will remain above 90 percent through and
beyond 2030. China could easily reduce consumption of meat and other agricultural products
that depend on imported feeds and still provide sufficient food for all its citizens in the
event of a conflict. See World Bank, China Economic Update: Special Topic—Changing Food
Consumption Patterns in China; Implications for Domestic Supply and International Trade,
Beijing, June 2014a, p. 26.
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Political Effects
Domestic political responses effects of war would differ considerably
between China and the United States because their political conditions
are so different. We assume that those conditions would basically be
the same in 2025 as in 2015. The nature, scale, and timing of political
effects are, if anything, even harder to predict than military losses and
economic costs. Whether those effects described below would occur
during or after a conflict of one year (the period posited for a long war)
is unknowable, but it is nonetheless worth considering.
China is a single-party authoritarian state with, at present, a powerful
chief executive.22 That leader is working to strengthen civilian
control over the military.23 Divisions among top civilian officials or
between them and military chiefs or economic elites are slight or well
masked. Public opinion, though an important source of pressure and
potential cradle of dissent, is not critical to the regime’s survival: The
middle class is mainly patriotic in sentiment, the rural poor are voiceless,
migrant factory workers are formless, and dissidents are a small
minority and more concerned with political or religious freedom than
foreign policy. Debate and protest are at the sufferance of the state.
Access to information can be controlled, up to a point, given widespread
Internet access. The state and its internal security apparatus
have ample means to suppress opposition and the will to use those
means. However, Beijing’s commitment to domestic order reflects its
fear of the sort of instability that China has experienced in the past
and that could again engulf the country, threaten the regime, and leave
China weak and vulnerable.
U.S. domestic politics are nearly the inverse of China’s. At present,
U.S. politics are polarized and the government is divided. Virtually
any issue, even war and peace, can bring on criticism, partisan squab-
22 See Elizabeth C. Economy, “China’s Imperial President: Xi Jinping Tightens His Grip,”
Foreign Affairs, November–December 2014.
23 There have been grounds for doubt that recent Chinese civilian leaders have as much
control over the PLA as earlier leaders. However, Xi Jinping has taken steps to regain such
control, without indications of PLA resistance.
52 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
bling, and partial paralysis.24 The ability of the president to be an effective
commander-in-chief could be impaired by politicization; opposition
could come from peace factions, war factions, or both. Unless the
country’s security is directly threatened, the wholehearted support of
the general public and the elite cannot be assumed, especially after
costly wars with disappointing results in Iraq and Afghanistan. U.S.
administrations persist in unpopular wars at their own peril. Neither
patience nor continuity can be assumed, especially with elections every
two years. At the same time, there is no doubt about the state’s survival
in the event of a war with huge losses and costs, as there might be in
China’s case.
Political responses, constraints, and consequences in the two
countries could be strongly influenced by perceptions of the stakes of
war. Matters concerning Chinese territorial claims, historical injustices,
and sovereign rights would have strong purchase among Chinese
elites and the public. Yet many Americans could regard such matters as
peripheral to U.S. vital interests and not worth a costly war, unless unified
leadership could convince them otherwise. As fighting lasts, these
original interests could be altered by how the war is going in terms of
casualties, economic impact, attacks on civilians, and popular anger or
revulsion, making internal politics volatile and unpredictable.
The U.S. government could experience acute “tactical” political
problems (e.g., partisan and popular polarization) throughout a conflict,
whereas the Chinese government would have few such problems
and the muscle to manage them. But China could face “strategic”
political problems that the regime would have to confront in the event
of a long and severe conflict. China’s “rally round the flag” impulse
could be stronger at first but then give way to instabilities that the
United States does not face.
The president of the United States could be criticized from the
outset for involving the country in a war over less-than-vital interests.
Such criticism could be intensified by significant losses, especially
24 As this is being written, the polarization along partisan lines that has dogged U.S.
attempts to negotiate a nuclear-enrichment deal with Iran suggests erosion of the principle
that politics end at the water’s edge.
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 53
casualties, in severe fighting. On the other hand, the president could
be criticized for timidity if he or she held back the U.S. military to
limit hostilities and losses. Although civilian control of the military
would not be in doubt, strains could appear over presidential micromanagement,
driven by concern with costs. While it is possible that
mounting casualties could rally public support, especially if injected
with anti-Chinese sentiment, it is also possible that opposition to war
would grow. Depending on the stakes and reactions to losses, a long
and severe war could divide the United States and aggravate problems
of uncompromising partisanship and dysfunctional government.
While U.S. military advantages have until now offered the chance
to win a war swiftly and so avoid such political pressures and pitfalls,
this might be less likely in the future. The commander-in-chief could
be in a vise between war-winning military logic and cost-containing
political-economic logic. Whether its internal politics would permit the
United States to fight a long, costly, and possibly inconclusive war with
China would depend in part on the war’s origin and the U.S. stake in its
outcome. History suggests—and China should not overlook—that the
United States is capable of considerable political stamina during war.
Political support, state control, and stability in both countries
could also be subject to the effects of cyberwar, were it to escalate into
civilian domains. Here, too, China could be more vulnerable insofar as
the Chinese government relies more on influencing popular sentiment
through media, the Internet, and other communications channels than
does, or can, the U.S. government. If Beijing’s ability to manipulate
information, maintain support, and avert disorder is degraded, spontaneous
and opposing opinions could roil segments of the population.
Expectations of how U.S. domestic politics would affect and be
affected by war, depending on intensity and duration, are summarized
in Table 3.4.
Strains on China’s political system and cohesion would probably
be manageable in the event of mild hostilities. Social networking
could empower opposition to some extent, though the regime’s ability
to restrict and manipulate information and to contain dissent should
prevail. A choice by the regime to limit hostilities to avoid major losses,
attacks on China, and escalation could produce military grumbling
54 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
but not outright defiance. Assuming that Chinese leaders and elites feel
strongly about the conflict’s stakes (e.g., matters of national sovereignty
and honor), any opposition among the populace would not compel the
regime to cease fighting.
However, severe hostilities, if prolonged, could generate domestic
political turbulence and centrifugal forces. The danger of unrest
derives from the dependence of the regime’s legitimacy on economic
well-being and patriotic pride; to the extent both are fractured by war
losses and costs, segments of the society (e.g., elites, middle class, workers,
and peasants) could sour on the leadership. Not just capital but
also capitalists might flee the country. While domestic turmoil might
not imperil the regime, it could force it to crack down on large swaths
of an angry public, further undermining its legitimacy. The danger
of separatism lies in the opportunity separatists in Tibet or Xinjiang
might see if the state were preoccupied with a damaging and demanding
war with the United States. Because significant PLA ground forces
and other internal-security forces would presumably remain available
even in the event of a major conflict with the United States, the regime
would be able to crush separatists, but at a cost of resources and of
domestic and international legitimacy at a time when both could be in
short supply.
Table 3.4
Potential Effects on U.S. Domestic Politics in the Four Cases
Brief Long
Mild
Pressure from opponents of
war could cause tight control
over fighting (assuming China
is also in that mode). But a brief
and restricted conflict with an
ambiguous outcome could lead
to strong criticism from pro-war
quarters.
Pro-war opponents could claim that
politicians are tying the military’s
hands.
Severe
Pro-peace opposition could be too
weak to prevent strong U.S. military
action. However, pro-war support
could constrain the U.S. ability to
agree to terms for early cessation.
Mounting losses and economic
damage could divide the country,
impair prosecution of war, and
make continuity of effort hostage to
political change (e.g., elections).
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Expectations of how Chinese domestic politics would affect and
be affected by war, depending on intensity and duration, are summarized
in Table 3.5.
Juxtaposing possible U.S. and Chinese political effects, it seems
that Chinese leaders would face little internal opposition in a brief conflict,
regardless of its intensity, whereas U.S. leaders could face vehement
opposition, partisanship, and polarization from the outset.25 Moreover,
Chinese leaders are able and willing to suppress domestic opposition.
While patriotic support can be expected in both cases, it could be more
fervent in China, especially if most Chinese feel more strongly than
most Americans do about the national interests at stake in the conflict.
However, in the event of a prolonged and costly conflict, China could
25 Whether domestic political opposition impairs a U.S. administration’s ability to wage
war is mainly a function of the degree of congressional-executive disharmony, which might
reflect public disharmony or opposition. It was not until well after a majority of Americans
soured on the Vietnam War that Congress began implementing serious roadblocks against
the U.S. war effort. The U.S. effort in Iraq, toward which the public became disenthralled,
continued without effective congressional opposition. Having said this, a U.S. administration
might be self-restrained if a war encounters major public opposition and exacts a major
political cost.
Table 3.5
Potential Effects on Chinese Domestic Politics in the Four Cases
Brief Long
Mild
Little elite or public opposition
would arise. Separatists might
see greater opportunity, but the
regime’s security apparatus could
neutralize.
Elite, public, and perhaps military
impatience could grow but not threaten
the regime. Separatists might exploit
conditions but not to the point of
actually separating. The regime could
increase oppression and lose some
legitimacy, but not be in danger.
Severe
Elite and public support can be
expected. However, Chinese
heavy losses, poor prospects, and
domestic turmoil might increase
pressure to end the conflict, even
on unfavorable terms, before
instability flares. By 2025, the
country might be unified in
supporting war.
Mounting military losses and economic
damage could weaken state legitimacy
and increase dissent and unrest.
Separatist activities could intensify and
lead to greater repression. Internal
strains could tax the state’s resources and
legitimacy at a time of costly war.
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face more-serious domestic upheaval than the United States would,
which could motivate Beijing to seek peace.
International Effects
International effects of Sino-U.S. war can be thought of as concentric
circles: general world opinion is outermost and least consequential; in
the next circle, responses of major nonregional actors, including allies
of either side; in the center and most important, East Asian states.
Irrespective of their positions on the causes, merits, and favored side
in a conflict, countries, institutions, and enterprises worldwide, fearful
of economic harm, would appeal for an immediate end to Sino-U.S.
combat. But such views are unlikely to sway either belligerent.
Of more significance than world opinion would be reactions of
other powers, notably Russia, India, and European (NATO) states.
India and Russia, China’s most powerful land neighbors, are likely to
be sympathetic to the United States and China, respectively. Although
India would want to refrain from direct military intervention, it might
increase readiness of its force along the frontier, especially if it felt its
vital interests could be affected. This could cause China to do likewise
with PLA ground forces (which would in any case not be heavily used
against U.S. forces).
Russia is more of a wild card. While it lacks capabilities to conduct
effective military operations in the Western Pacific, it could exploit
U.S. preoccupation in the Pacific to increase threats to former Soviet
states in Eastern Europe (e.g., Ukraine) and the Caucasus (e.g., Georgia),
and even try to intimidate its Baltic neighbors despite their NATO
membership. Another possibility—less likely but with very different
significance—is that Russia could seize the opportunity of a Sino-U.S.
war to strengthen its position in central Asia and Siberia at China’s
expense. Geopolitics aside, Russia would be eager to help China make
up for lost oil and gas supplies, though not for free. In addition, Russian
arms could make up somewhat for Chinese military losses and
expenditures (e.g., aircraft and air defense), though it would take time
for them to be operationalized, and most would fare badly against U.S.
Weighing the Costs: Military, Economic, Political, and International 57
forces. Overall, though, Russia’s economic weakness, military limitations,
and dangers on or within its own frontiers reduce the importance
of its support for China and the likelihood or significance of its
intervention.
Assuming that its European allies see the United States as justified,
they would likely back it politically, while urging that the conflict,
end lest it escalate or ruin the world economy. Short of direct combat
involvement, NATO itself might pledge support for U.S. efforts to
oppose Chinese aggression. One of the most important European contributions
would be to preempt or respond to any increased Russian
pressure on Eastern Europe. In the course of a lengthy conflict, Europe
might be willing to join in an embargo of export to China of any
goods, technologies, and services that could aid its war effort.
As for other Chinese “allies,” North Korea is even more unpredictable
than Russia. Although North Korea no longer has the conventional
military capability to invade and defeat South Korea, it could use
missiles against South Korea or Japan; although Seoul would almost
certainly not enter a war against China in any case, Tokyo’s options
would be complicated by North Korean belligerence.
A conflict between China and the United States could disturb
the greater Middle East by providing an opening for heightened violence
from Islamist-extremist and anti-Israel groups (ISIS, al Qaeda,
Hamas, and Hezbollah). Middle East difficulties could place additional
demands on U.S. naval and air forces at a moment when more of them
are needed in the Western Pacific. Conversely, a shift of significant
U.S. forces from U.S. Central Command to U.S. Pacific Command
could add to the potential for instability in the Middle East. Increased
violence, extremism, and instability in the Middle East could also be
damaging to China, which gets much of its oil from there (though
most oil would not ship through the war zone anyway).
East Asian states would have the most to lose from a Sino-U.S.
war: Much of the region could be a war zone; its trade-intensive economy
could go into depression; China might emerge either dominant
or unstable; the region’s extraordinary gains in security and prosperity
could be threatened. Most East Asian states would want to see war end
swiftly in military victory for the United States, but with China intact.
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Most of China’s neighbors have edged toward closer security relations
with the United States. This drift could be accentuated in a conflict
perceived to result from Chinese bellicosity.
The most critical state is Japan, with its growing military strength,
its antagonistic relationship with China, and the strong possibility that
China would attack U.S. air bases on Japanese territory. Recent reinterpretation
of Japan’s constitution, at the initiative of the Abe government,
effectively legalizes military support for the United States
in a war with China.26 Of course, the probability of significant Japanese
involvement in the war would be greater if Japan was involved
in the issue or confrontation that triggered conflict (e.g., in the East
China Sea). Japanese military participation would be virtually assured
if China were to attack Japan, including U.S. bases in Japan, or Japanese
forces. While China has the option of not attacking U.S. bases
on Japanese territory, such a decision would involve major operational
drawbacks.
As for capabilities, Japanese submarines, surface combatants,
combat aircraft, strike weapons, and ISR could make a material difference
in a severe war by 2025. The longer a Sino-U.S. conflict lasted,
the greater the potential effect of Japanese military contributions on
the U.S. side. In a long, severe war, China would find it difficult to
contend with combined U.S. and Japanese forces, as the latter made
up for the former’s attrition. Moreover, Japanese involvement would
reduce the need for the United States to strip its forces from elsewhere
for reinforcement.
Overall, Japanese combat involvement could increase Chinese
losses and offset or even reduce U.S. losses in a long, severe conflict.
Because Japan’s forces are being steadily improved, its entry could widen
the gap between U.S. and Chinese losses in 2025 that was depicted
above. This possibility reinforces the observation already made that
even with improved Chinese A2AD and reduced U.S. military superi-
26 This assumes adequate domestic political support for Japanese intervention. Notwithstanding
the reinterpretation of the constitution, polls suggest that a majority of Japanese
continue to oppose involvement in wars other than in self-defense. See, e.g., Kamiya Matake,
“Japanese Public Opinions About the Exercise of the Right of Collective Self-Defense,” Discuss
Japan, September 25, 2014.
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ority, China cannot be confident of winning a long, severe war. At the
same time, Japanese intervention would enrage the Chinese and could
enflame, extend, or expand the conflict. It might cause China to fight
longer and endure greater costs than it would otherwise. China might
widen attacks on Japan, though at the price of diverting forces already
under heavy attack and stress.
Depending on the cause and locus of the conflict, other East Asian
states would mostly side with the United States in varying degrees:
from support ranging from permission to use bases to the possible
commitment of forces (e.g., Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines),
to cautious support for the United States among countries with strong
ties to China (notably, South Korea) or significant Chinese populations
(e.g., Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand), to support for China
(only North Korea). The participation of Australian forces, because of
their quality, could have military significance despite their small size.
Apart from military contributions, the longer and more severe the conflict,
the more and perhaps more permanently China could become
isolated from the very region it aspires to lead. This, in turn, could
strengthen pro-peace voices in Beijing (e.g., in the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs).27
Prognostications about the reaction of third parties are fraught
with uncertainty even now, let alone ten years from now. Much would
depend on the cause of war: For example, a Chinese move to gain
control of the East or South China Seas flagrant enough to force U.S.
armed intervention would be more likely to produce a significant anti-
China international response than would a conflict over Taiwan, especially
if it appeared that the Chinese were provoked. It is conceivable
that many U.S. friends, near and far, would lay low or that Russia or
North Korea would act in ways that added to U.S. military risks and
burdens. Yet another possibility, touched on in the earlier discussion of
“upper limits” of war, is that many states would be dragged in or enter
27 In terms of sheer mass, the combined GDP (approximately $10 trillion) of Asian states
that would favor the United States is roughly equivalent to China’s, and the combined
defense spending of those states (approximately $150 billion) is nearly as great as China’s
(Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, SIPRI Yearbook 2014: Armaments, Disarmament
and International Security, Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 2014).
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opportunistically, leading to a quasi–world war. However, we think
the more likely international reaction would be for regional states with
direct and critical interests, such as Japan, to get involved, mainly to
the disadvantage of China.
In sum, world public opinion would favor the immediate cessation
of fighting. Russia might growl, posture, and exploit a Sino-U.S. conflict
by taking initiatives elsewhere, whether or not in sync with China.
Some East Asian states, in varying degrees, would line up behind the
United States. Japan’s involvement could make a long, severe conflict
more costly for China but could also increase the dangers of escalation.
These international effects would be amplified, to the advantage
of the United States, the longer a severe war persisted. Possible international
responses are summarized in Table 3.6.
The Four Cases and Their Effects
Each category of effects is important in its own right and in its implications
for other effects:
• Military losses can affect the ability, especially of China, to keep
trade going, prevent destruction of infrastructure, and maintain
access to energy supplies.
Table 3.6
Possible International Responses in the Four Cases
Brief Long
Mild
Regional and global pressure on
both sides to end conflict.
NATO support would enable the United
States to concentrate more forces in the
Western Pacific.
Severe
International shock and
pressure on both sides to end
conflict. Warnings and military
preparations by Japan and other
East Asian states. Russia provides
indirect support for China, as
NATO does for United States.
Japanese and other East Asian entry in
support of the United States. India could
exploit the frontier to the disadvantage
of China. NATO could limit exploitation
by Russia.
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• New domains of warfare—cyberspace and space—can have
both a military and economic effect, given that dual-use systems
(e.g., communications, logistics networks, GPS) could be disabled.
• Cyberwar, if not confined to military networks, could hinder
political responses to war, affect third parties, and compound
economic disruptions.
• Economic costs, whether from hostilities or from disruption of
commerce, would affect the ability of combatants to make up for
military losses in a severe and protracted conflict.
• Economic hardship, such as reduced consumption of and access
to essentials, could affect political support, stability, and cohesion,
and thus the ability and resolve of each side to continue fighting
at a high intensity.
• Adverse world public opinion directed at one or both parties
would make little difference in their ability and will to fight, at
least in the short term. However, the reactions of important third
parties could eventually help one side or the other in major ways:
direct combat, war supplies, trade, energy access, and, in the case
of the United States, support in other theaters that enables concentration
of forces.
Table 3.7 integrates the four categories of effects on both states
in the four conflict cases. (The “Military” column includes 2015 and
2025 cases to reflect the effects of improvements in Chinese A2AD.)
The “General” column and row summarize the four cases and the four
sorts of effects, respectively, providing a very rough sense of the impact
on and relative advantage of the sides.
Overall, the decline in U.S. warfighting advantages does not
mean China can win a war that the United States is willing to fight. By
2025, a war could be a military standoff, with major weapon-platform
losses on both sides, in addition to losses in cyberspace and space. Yet
neither side would fare so much worse than the other that it would
feel compelled to concede, raising the probability that a war would
be both severe and long. Such a war could be decided by economic
costs, domestic political effects, and international responses. Japan’s
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Table 3.7
Possible Effects on the United States and China in the Four Cases and Overall
Military Economic Political International General
Brief, mild
Minor losses on both sides. China: Broad but
brief disruption of
trade, consumption,
and energy.
United States: Brief
disruption of trade
with China.
China: Little elite or public
opposition. The PLA favors
intensified attacks but
does not openly challenge
the regime. Separatists
see greater opportunity,
but the regime and its
internal security apparatus
neutralize it.
United States: Pressure
from both sides: doves
demanding cessation,
and hawks demanding
stepped-up strikes.
Regional and
global pressure
on both sides
to end conflict.
Brief but serious
economic
disruption,
asymmetrically
harming China.
Brief, severe
2015
China: U.S. counterforce capabilities
take a major toll early and
throughout.
United States: Chinese A2AD takes
a major early toll but then less as
degraded by U.S. strikes.
2025
China: Increased U.S. losses reduce strike
threat to Chinese forces.
United States: Improved and less
vulnerable Chinese A2AD produces
increased U.S. losses.
China: Shock to
global trade,
with aftershocks
to consumption,
energy supply.
Difficult recovery.
United States:
Brief economic
disruption, confined
to trade with
and investment
in China. Quick
recovery.
China: Elite and public
supportive. The PLA is
satisfied. Early support
is stronger in 2025 with
better military results.
United States: Doves too
weak to prevent strong
U.S. military action. Hawks
constrain U.S. ability to
agree to terms for early
cessation.
Regional and
global shock.
Pressure on
both sides to
end conflict.
Warnings
and military
preparations
by Japan and
other
East Asian
states. Russia
voices support
for China and
NATO for the
United States.
Major military
losses and
economic costs
for both, but
asymmetrically
harming China.
Gap in expected
losses less
unfavorable to
China in 2025
than in 2015.
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Military Economic Political International General
Long, mild
Modest losses of aircraft or ships on
both sides.
China: Serious
compounding
damage
to trade,
consumption, and
energy supply.
Slow and difficult
recovery.
United States:
Significant economic
harm from disrupted
trade with and
investment in China.
Slow recovery.
China: Elite, public, and
PLA impatience grow
but do not threaten the
regime. Separatists try
to exploit conditions.
The regime becomes
more oppressive and less
legitimate, but not in
danger.
United States: Hawks claim
that politicians are tying
the military’s hands.
NATO support
elsewhere
enables
the United
States to
concentrate
more forces
in Western
Pacific.
Economic
costs more
harmful to
China. Domestic
dissatisfaction
grows in
both states.
International
responses favor
the United
States.
Long, severe
2015
China: U.S. strike capabilities, though
somewhat degraded by A2AD, take a
major toll on Chinese forces. Extensive
damage to war-related infrastructure.
Computer and satellite degradation.
United States: Chinese A2AD takes a
major toll on U.S. forces early but less
as degraded by U.S. strikes.
2025
China: Improved A2AD reduces losses
somewhat, though still greater than
U.S. losses. Increased cyber and satellite
losses.
United States: Improved and less
vulnerable Chinese A2AD produces
increased U.S. losses early and throughout.
Increased cyber and satellite losses.
U.S. GDP falls by
5–10 percent in
one year. China’s
GDP falls by 25–
35 percent in one
year. Escalating
cyberwar aggravates
turmoil in both
economies.
China: Mounting military
losses and economic damage
weaken state legitimacy
and increase dissent
and unrest. Separatist
activities intensify and
lead to greater repression.
While internal strains do
not imperil the state, they
tax it severely at a time of
costly war.
United States: Mounting
losses and economic costs
divide the country, impair
prosecution of war, and
make continuity of effort
hostage to political
change.
Japanese
and other
East Asian
countries
enter in
support of the
United States.
China is
concerned
that India
could
exploit the
situation on
the frontier.
NATO limits
Russia
exploitation.
Major losses.
Reduction in
the military
capabilities
of both sides.
Asymmetrically
severe
economic costs
(including cyber
and space), for
China. Possible
Chinese
domestic
instability.
International
response favors
the United
States.
Table 3.7—Continued
64 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable
Military Economic Political International General
General
As U.S. military advantages decline
by 2025, U.S. losses increase, Chinese
losses decrease, and the prospect of
outright U.S. military victory declines.
Growing cyber and satellite losses on
both sides.
China is far more
vulnerable than the
United States to
broad, deep, and
lasting economic
harm.
China is better equipped
than the United States to
contain the political effects
of a short war, but China
faces challenges in a long
one.
U.S. East
Asian allies
provide
significant
support in
a persisting
conflict.
Japan’s
entry has a
significant
military effect
by 2025.
NATO allies
and India are
be indirectly
helpful to the
United States,
as Russia is to
China.
Table 3.7—Continued
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entry could offset the decline of U.S. military superiority, especially in
a prolonged conflict. All these factors, taken together, would strongly
favor the United States.
Recall the earlier observation that war between China and the
United States could be worse than the long, severe case, as described
here. In the 20th century, two great-power wars became world wars,
and a third could have followed the same course, or even worse. The
possibility of a Sino-U.S. war drawing in other powers and many states
cannot be excluded: In addition to Japan, perhaps India, Vietnam, and
NATO would be on the U.S. side; Russia and North Korea would be
on China’s side. Fighting could spread beyond the region. War aims
could expand, and as they did, so would the costs of losing. Even if
nuclear weapons were not used, China might find other ways to attack
the United States proper. Use of space and cyberspace could be severely
curtailed. As long as fighting remained inclusive, destruction and hardship
could fuel determination and further mobilization. In sum, both
the duration and severity of war could exceed the upper case used here
for purposes of analysis. If so, losses and costs would be even greater for
both sides and the world, and the outcome would be no more favorable
for China, despite the expansion of its power.
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CHAPTER FOUR
Findings, Recommendations, and Concluding
Observations
Findings
Unless both U.S. and Chinese political leaders decline to authorize
their militaries to carry out their counterforce strategies, the ability of
either state to control the ensuing conflict would be greatly impaired.
Both would suffer large military losses from the outset and throughout
a severe conflict: In 2015, U.S. losses could be a relatively small fraction
of forces committed, but still significant; Chinese losses could be
much heavier than U.S. losses and a substantial fraction of forces committed.
This gap in losses will shrink as Chinese A2AD improves: By
2025, U.S. losses could range from significant to heavy; Chinese losses,
while still very heavy, could be somewhat less than in 2015, owing to
increased degradation of U.S. strike capabilities. A severe and lengthy
conflict would leave both with substantially reduced total military
capacity and thus vulnerable to other threats.
China’s A2AD will make it increasingly difficult for the United
States to gain military-operational dominance and victory, even in a
long war. However, provided the United States is nonetheless willing to
fight, China cannot expect to win militarily. Thus, the two could face
the prospect of an extremely costly military standoff.
This outcome implies that a conflict could be decided by domestic
political, international, and, especially, economic factors, all of which
would favor the United States in a long, severe war:
• Although a war would harm both economies, damage to China’s
would be far worse (perhaps 25–35 percent of GDP after
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one year). Because much of the Western Pacific would become a
war zone, China’s trade with the region and the rest of the world
would decline substantially. China’s loss of seaborne energy supplies
would be especially damaging. Although consumption is a
smaller share of the Chinese economy than the U.S. economy, it
is expected to grow, leaving the Chinese economy vulnerable to
further contraction in the event of war.
• Politically, a long conflict, especially if militarily severe and economically
punishing, could expose China to internal division—
taxing and testing the state.
• The entry of Japan and, to a lesser extent, other U.S. partners in
the region could have a considerable influence on military operations.
The responses of Russia, India, and NATO are less important.
However, NATO efforts to preserve security in other regions
(at least Europe, if not also the Middle East) would permit greater,
or less risky, commitment of U.S. forces to war with China. Such
a combination of international responses could increase Chinese
losses in a long, severe conflict, despite improved A2AD.
In a nutshell, despite military trends that favor it, China could not
win, and might lose, a severe war with the United States in 2025, especially
if prolonged. Moreover, the economic costs and political dangers
of such a war could imperil China’s stability, end its development, and
undermine the legitimacy of the state.
Yet in the event of war, the military capabilities, motivations, and
plans of both sides make a severe, prolonged, and exceedingly costly
conflict a distinct possibility. Of the many reasons the United States
should not want such a war, the most important are the immense military
losses and economic costs to itself and the implications, for the
country, the region, and the world, of devastating harm to China.
Such prospects underscore the importance of both the United States
and China contemplating how to control and restrict fighting should a
crisis turn violent, which shines the spotlight on principles and procedures
for political control and communication.
Findings, Recommendations, and Concluding Observations 69
Recommendations
The findings confirm what is widely thought: A Sino-U.S. war would be
so harmful that both sides should place a very high priority on avoiding
one. While such prospects make premeditated war highly improbable,
they also dictate effective individual and bilateral crisis management,
as well as other measures to avoid misperceptions and mistakes.
Because the United States might be unable to control, win, or
avoid major losses and costs of a severe conflict, it must guard against
automaticity in implementing immediate attacks on Chinese A2AD
and should have plans and means to prevent hostilities from becoming
severe. Establishing “fail safe” arrangements will guarantee definitive,
informed political approval for military operations.
Likewise, China has much to lose from a severe conflict, and even
more from a prolonged, severe one. Notwithstanding favorable military
trends, China has as much reason as the United States to avoid
automatic execution of military plans for a sharp and immediate counterforce
exchange, including a parallel requirement for unambiguous
political control. Again, if either state executes its military plans to
strike the forces of the other, a severe war would likely ensue.
Thus, it is necessary but not sufficient for the United States to
be able to refrain from full execution of military plans once fighting
begins, for it could not hesitate to strike hard if China does or is about
to do so. Given the extreme penalty for allowing one’s forces to be
struck before they strike, creating mutual forbearance at the outset of
hostilities could be as difficult as it is critical. It requires an ability to
cooperate at a moment of intense pressure to attack, which in turn
makes clear, direct, and prompt political communication as important
after as it is before hostilities begin. Together with ensuring that U.S.
and Chinese political leaders alike have military options other than immediate
strikes to destroy opposing forces, having the means to confer and
contain a conflict before it gets out of hand is the most important recommendation
coming out of this analysis.
Along with measures to prevent crises from becoming violent and
violence from becoming severe, the United States should try to reduce
the effect of Chinese A2AD in the coming years. Work at RAND and
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elsewhere increasingly stresses the need to invest in more-survivable
force platforms (e.g., submarines) and in counter-A2AD (e.g., theater
missiles). Such efforts would buttress deterrence, help prevent increased
China’s confidence of prevailing in a severe conflict, and improve stability
in crises, as well as in the critical initial stage of a conflict. But the
efforts would not dramatically reduce U.S. military losses or economic
costs of a severe conflict.
Even as China’s military capabilities improve, it would suffer huge
losses in a long, severe conflict. Moreover, the economic, domestic, and
international effects of a long, severe conflict work against China. The
United States needs to be sure that the Chinese are specifically aware of
the potential for catastrophic results even if a war is not lost militarily.
While not losing sight of the grave harm to the United States of
a lengthy and severe conflict, prudent U.S. preparations for one would
help disabuse the Chinese of expecting victory at acceptable cost. However,
a heavy dose of common sense is needed in contemplating such
preparations. As stressed from the outset of this study, war with China
is improbable, in part because both sides know that the costs would outweigh
the gains, even for the winner—if indeed there is one. Moreover,
the costs of being completely prepared are prohibitive—undoubtedly
greater than the costs of war when discounted by the low probability
of one.
With this in mind, U.S. preparations fall into several categories:
• Improving the ability to sustain severely intense military operations:
The Department of Defense should analyze critical “consumables”
(weapons and provisions) that could run out and tip
the balance in the event a protracted war.
• Shifting toward more-survivable platforms: The Pentagon should
not increase stocks of vulnerable platforms (surface ships and
manned aircraft) that are expected to take significant losses,
because of China’s A2AD. Rather, the Pentagon should undertake
a purposeful long-term program to substitute more-survivable systems,
at least for this region.
• Improving U.S. and allied warfighting capabilities: In addition
to improve survivability, U.S. and allied forces should exploit
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more strategically the technologies that China is exploiting in
its A2AD, including targeting, theater-range missiles, advanced
extend-range air defense, and submarines.
• Conducting contingency planning with key allies: Japan is the
most important but also the most controversial ally; however,
existing low-profile U.S.-Japanese military planning is an established
framework (well known to the Chinese) that could begin to
touch on issues regarding low-probability and high-consequence
conflict with China. Similar planning with other East Asia allies
is encouraged. NATO planning should be stretched in the direction
of how European allies would respond to a Russian threat if
the United States were in a major war with China. Again, this is
a delicate matter and best done with no fanfare.
• Undertaking measures to mitigate the interruption of critical
products from China: Here again, sound judgment must prevail.
For the United States to slash Chinese imports in the off chance
of a war would be to harm its own economy in anticipation of
an unlikely event, which, though economically painful, would
not be catastrophic. It would suffice for the United States government
to identify alternative domestic and foreign sources of only
the most critical products and parts made in China. This could
include stockpiling especially vital materials.
• Developing options to deny China access to war-critical commodities
and technologies in the event of war: Although a general
U.S. blockade would not be needed to harm the Chinese economy,
the United States could take measures that would make it
difficult for China to sustain long and severe combat. Cutting off
Chinese access to seaborne supplies of oil and liquefied natural
gas would have the most dramatic effect. Although Russia would
probably be eager and able to supply China with military hardware
during a war, Chinese access to more-sophisticated Western
systems could be stopped.
Such U.S. measures could reinforce Chinese perceptions that the
United States is determined to encircle and isolate China, as well as
create perceptions that the United States would seek to devastate China
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and destroy its state in the event of war. The distinction worth making
is that the United States does not seek to isolate China unless war
requires it to do so. The risk of harm to Sino-U.S. relations can be mitigated,
though to only some extent, by patient and persistent efforts by
the United States to engage Chinese political and military counterparts
in discussion of cooperation and crisis management.
The U.S. Army, as a Title X service and in its joint responsibilities,
has important roles to play in many aspects of such preparations.
It should do the following:
• Invest in land-based A2AD capabilities (e.g., mobile theater-range
missiles and advanced air defenses) to contribute to high Chinese
military losses.
• Encourage and enable East Asian partners to mount strong
defense, including missiles and air defense.
• Improve interoperability with partners, especially Japan.
• Contribute to the expansion and deepening of Sino-U.S. militaryto-
military understanding and cooperation to reduce dangers of
misperception and miscalculation.
Because a Sino-U.S. war, in the construct used here, would not
include a major ground combat, the U.S. Army’s expected losses would
be proportionately less than those of the Navy and Air Force. Therefore,
this analysis does not change current planning factors concerning
overall end-strength or mobilization requirements—albeit with important
investments in technology and platforms and shifts in force structure
to enhance long-range fires and air defense, as noted. However, a
major conflict on the Korean peninsula would alter this presumption.
Concluding Observations
As China’s military improvements neutralize the military advantages
of the United States, and because technology favors conventional counterforce,
war between the two countries could be intense, last a year
or more, have no winner, and inflict huge losses and costs on both
Findings, Recommendations, and Concluding Observations 73
sides. The longer such a war continued, the more significant economic,
domestic political, and international effects would become. While such
nonmilitary effects would hit China hardest, they could also greatly
harm the U.S. economy and the U.S. ability to meet security challenges
worldwide. The United States should make prudent preparations
to be able to wage a long and intense war with China. Of no less
importance is the ability of the United States to limit the scope, intensity,
and duration of a war with China through its planning, its system
of civilian control, and its ability to communicate with China in peace,
crisis, and war.
Likewise for China, political control and good wartime top-level
communications are imperative. True, Chinese military improvements
have lessened the danger of losing decisively to the United States. Yet
China cannot count on a short war, and a long one could leave China
weak, unstable, insecure, and impoverished.
To paraphrase Frederick the Great, evenly matched well-armed
powers considering war will want to weigh whether possible gains
would even “pay the interest” on probable costs. As the United States
and China become more equal in their ability to destroy each other’s
forces, neither can be confident of winning at an acceptable price.
Should a confrontation or incident nonetheless lead to hostilities, it
would be better if both sides had thought through how to limit the
harm, not just how to win.
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APPENDIX A
Military Losses
Mild Case
Brief, Mild
• The conflict trigger event results in immediate losses for both
sides.
• China suffers slightly more losses as a result of its lower levels
of modern combat experience and less capable systems and platforms.
Long, Mild
• Protracted hostilities result in additional but relatively infrequent
losses over the length of the conflict.
• China suffers slightly more losses because of less modern combat
experience and less capable systems and platforms.
Severe Case, 2015
Table A.1 displays the expected military losses in the severe case for
2015.
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Aircraft
U.S. Losses
• No specific judgment is made here about whether China would
damage or sink a U.S. aircraft carrier with an accompanying air
wing.
• The United States would likely lose substantial forces initially in
the region because of Chinese missile forces more so than Chinese
aircraft. China has relatively few modern aircraft, and the newest
generation would not yet be deployed.
• U.S. regional air bases would also come under attack, but China
has limited aerial refueling to sustain operations against regional
bases.
• The United States would have the edge in air-to-air combat.
• U.S. aircraft carriers would be vulnerable to Chinese submarines.
China’s Losses
• Once China’s most modern aircraft are incapacitated, China
would be heavily dependent on outdated and aging airframes
that have limited data relay capabilities. This means that Chinese
Table A.1
Military Losses in the Severe Case, 2015
System Type U.S. T1 U.S. T2 China T1 China T2
Aircraft
Surface ships
Submarines
Missiles
C4ISR
NOTES: Green signifies modest losses; yellow, significant losses; orange, heavy
losses; and red, very heavy losses. A mix of two colors in one cell indicates a range
(e.g., green/yellow means we expect there would be modest to significant losses).
T1 = a hypothetical moment, within days of the start of the conflict, when the sides
decide whether to continue fighting; T2 = one year.
Military Losses 77
aircraft would become increasingly vulnerable to U.S. aircraft
during a conflict.
• However, China has a lot of places to hide aircraft, such as inland
bases and tunnel facilities, and might choose to do so rather than
have them shot down.
• China also has no modern experience sustaining air operations
over long periods of time and has limited aerial refueling capabilities,
which would affect sortie rates.
Surface Ships
U.S. Losses
• No specific judgment is made here about whether China would
damage or sink a U.S. aircraft carrier with an accompanying air
wing.
• The United States is likely to lose substantial forces initially in
the region because of missile forces and, possibly, swarming techniques
by PLA Navy (PLAN) and nonmilitary ships.
• Regional naval bases would also be under attack.
• U.S. ships could hide out far from the conflict in the deep Pacific.
China’s Losses
• Chinese ships would be vulnerable to attack by U.S. submarines,
particularly given Chinese weakness in ASW, as well as U.S. surface
ships, planes, and so on.
• Chinese naval bases would be vulnerable as well, given that all are
relatively near the potential theater of conflict, and Chinese ships
would have nowhere to hide where they could also resupply.
• Although China has huge numbers of shipbuilding facilities and
would likely be able to ramp up production as losses accumulated,
no new ships would come online in time to affect the conflict.
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Submarines
U.S. Losses
• U.S. submarines are relatively quiet and difficult for China to
find.
• China has noted weaknesses in conducting ASW.
• U.S. submarine-launched missiles have a longer range than Chinese
submarine-launched missiles, so the United States could participate
farther from the fight.
China’s Losses
• Even the newest Chinese submarines are still relatively noisy and
easy to find. They would survive “well” (only in a comparative
sense), but after they were incapacitated, the older, noisier ones
would be easier to hunt down and destroy.
• The depletion of the Chinese submarine capability would make
the U.S. submarine force even more survivable.
Missiles
U.S. Losses and Use of Missile Inventories
• The United States has large quantities of a variety of missiles, as
well as a relatively diverse set of platforms from which to launch
them.
• Some U.S. missile launchers (e.g., surface ships) are increasingly
vulnerable. Air-to-surface missiles are only as survivable as the
platforms that carry them.
• U.S. land-based missiles between 500 km and 5,500 km are prohibited
by the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty,
whereas the Chinese missiles are not, giving China a significant
advantage.
• Chinese long-range multiple launch rocket systems (MLRSs)
have ranges that approximate those of U.S. land-based missiles.
U.S. MLRSs do not have ranges that would make them useful.
Military Losses 79
China’s Losses and Use of Missile Inventories
• China would use many missiles in initial waves and would eventually
have to rely on older missiles with shorter ranges and morelimited
capability.
• However, launchers would be relatively survivable given Second
Artillery’s extensive tunneling system.
• China might also hide some launchers to prevent the United
States from targeting them and later deploy them in short bursts.
C4ISR
Both countries have some cyberwar and ASAT capabilities. However,
China’s capabilities are less tested and rugged and would likely wear
down faster.
U.S. Losses
• China would be able to disable some U.S. satellites and broader
C4ISR capabilities.
• However, the U.S. C4ISR capability is more robust and redundant
than China’s, so the United States would suffer lower degradation
of capability after it survived the first wave.
China’s Losses
• China depends less on C4ISR than the United States, but China
would also have a much less robust capability once initial C4ISR
capabilities were knocked out.
• The United States would focus attacks on Chinese sensors.
• The United States would also be able to knock out a lot of Chinese
satellites in initial waves, and China would be hard-pressed
to defend its remaining satellites.
• On the organizational side, China already suffers from command
issues because of its stultified military organizational structure
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and hierarchical command authority, both of which would likely
exacerbate problems in wartime.1
Severe Case, 2025
Table A.2 displays the expected military losses in the severe case for
2025.
Aircraft
U.S. Losses
• Fifth-generation Chinese aircraft would be coming online and
would represent a bigger threat to the United States, along with
larger Chinese missile inventories.
1 For more information on organizational weaknesses within the PLA, see Michael S.
Chase, Jeffrey G. Engstrom, Tai Ming Cheung, Kristen Gunness, Scott Warren Harold,
Susan Puska, and Samuel K. Berkowitz, China’s Incomplete Military Transformation: Assessing
the Weaknesses of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), Santa Monica, Calif.: RAND Corporation,
RR-893-USCC, 2015.
Table A.2
Military Losses in the Severe Case, 2025
System Type U.S. T1 U.S. T2 China T1 China T2
Aircraft
Surface ships
Submarines
Missiles
C4ISR
NOTES: Green signifies modest losses; yellow, significant losses; orange, heavy
losses; and red, very heavy losses. A mix of two colors in one cell indicates a range
(e.g., green/yellow means we expect there would be modest to significant losses).
T1 = a hypothetical moment, within days of the start of the conflict, when the sides
decide whether to continue fighting; T2 = one year. In the categories where the
assessments appear similar for both countries (aircraft for both T1 and T2 and C4ISR
for T1), we assess that Chinese attrition would be relatively greater than that of
committed U.S. forces.
Military Losses 81
• China would be more likely to damage or sink a U.S. aircraft carrier
(or multiple carriers) and any accompanying air wings.
• The United States would likely lose a lot of forces initially in
region, though still as a result of missile forces more so than Chinese
aircraft.
• U.S. regional air bases would come under attack given that China
would have a robust aerial refueling capability.
• The United States is still likely to have a qualitative edge in air-toair
combat but would have to fight a larger number of relatively
new Chinese planes.
• U.S. fourth-generation aircraft would be in significant danger
from Chinese fifth-generation aircraft.
China’s Losses
• U.S. next-generation aircraft would be online.
• Newer Chinese planes would be equipped with data links and
networked, improving information sharing and likely reducing
losses.
• Depending on production rates of new aircraft, China would
likely have a deeper bench of new aircraft than in 2015 and would
therefore depend less on outdated and aging airframes.
• China would likely still lack modern experience sustaining air
operations over long periods of time.
• However, China would also still have many places to hide aircraft,
such as inland bases and tunnel facilities, and might choose
to do so rather than have them shot down; or China might rotate
them in and out of well-defended interior areas. By 2025, China
would have two to three aircraft carriers and accompanying air
wings that could be disabled or destroyed.
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Surface Ships
U.S. Losses
• China is more likely to damage or sink a U.S. aircraft carrier (or
multiple carriers).
• The United States is likely to lose substantial forces initially in
region as a result of attacks by Chinese aircraft, missile forces,
and, possibly, swarming techniques by PLAN and nonmilitary
ships.
• U.S. regional naval bases would also be attacked.
China’s Losses
• The United States is still likely to sink Chinese aircraft carriers.
• China has likely dealt with at least some ASW weaknesses, so
Chinese surface ships would be less vulnerable to U.S. submarines.
• Chinese naval bases would still be vulnerable, given that all are
relatively near the potential conflict theater, but ships might be
able to resupply at foreign ports.
• However, the United States might be able to knock out Chinese
ships in third-party locations, given its superior global military
posture.
• China would be even better equipped to ramp up shipbuilding
production, but few new ships would come online in time to
affect a conflict.
Submarines
U.S. Losses
• U.S. submarines are quiet and difficult for China to target, despite
improved ASW.
Military Losses 83
China’s Losses
• The newest Chinese submarine classes would be much quieter,
but there would be only a few of each class, and older submarines
would still be detectable.
• Missile ranges on the new submarine-class missile will be longer,
so these submarines will be able to participate in a conflict farther
from the fight. The newest Chinese submarines would survive
well, but the older ones would still be easy to hunt down and
incapacitate.
Missiles
U.S. Losses and Use of Missile Inventories
• The United States would still have large quantities of a variety of
different missiles, as well as a relatively more diverse set of platforms
from which to launch missiles, with the exception of landbased
missiles.
• However, the United States would face more-severe initial and
protracted losses as a result of attacks on regional U.S. bases.
• The United States would not be able to bring enough tactical
strike power or ISR to find and take down Chinese launchers,
and U.S. survivability would be a problem.
• U.S. land-based missiles from 500 km to 5,500 km are prohibited
by the INF treaty, whereas the Chinese missiles are not, giving
China a significant advantage.
• Chinese long-range MLRSs have ranges that approximate those
of U.S. land-based missiles. U.S. MLRSs do not have ranges that
would make them useful.
China’s Losses and Use of Missile Inventories
• China would have significantly more missiles and launchers in
2025.
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• China’s missile inventories would last longer, but China would
still eventually have to rely on older missiles with shorter ranges
and more-limited capability. Chinese launchers would be even
more survivable and difficult to disable when hiding in the tunnels
but would still largely be viable targets during above-ground
launches.
C4ISR
Compared with 2015, C4ISR losses in 2025 could be worse for both
sides, because both could take down C4ISR with systems that are relatively
invulnerable.
U.S. Losses
• The United States would lose a lot more general C4ISR capability
initially than in the 2015 scenario. China would also likely be
better in 2025 than in 2015 at incapacitating U.S. satellites, and
with improved sensing and long-range fires, China could do significant
damage to ground components of the C4ISR networks.
• After the initial onslaught, China would have more-robust surviving
capability to continue attacking U.S. C4ISR than in 2015,
so the degradation of U.S. capabilities would continue.
China’s Losses
• China would still depend less than the United States on C4ISR,
but China’s capability would also be more robust and networked
than in 2015, so C4ISR losses would affect Chinese combat capability
more. China is also likely to have many more satellites in
2025.
• Some reforms would likely have been made to the PLA’s organizational
structure and hierarchical command authority, but weaknesses
in these areas would likely continue, especially if the PLA
has not gained any recent combat experience.
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APPENDIX B
Economic Effects in the Severe Case, 2015
Trade
• Glick and Taylor found that, on average, there is an 80 percent
immediate drop in trade between adversaries when war commences.
1
• There was a 96 percent drop in trade in World War I and a 97 percent
decline in trade in World War II; trade between adversaries
in these wars was “almost totally destroyed.”2
• Therefore, we assume a 90 percent drop in bilateral trade (between
the United States and China) after one year of severe conflict.
• Every 1 percent increase in trade, divided by GDP, equals a
1.97 percent increase in GDP per capita.3
U.S. Losses
• Total bilateral trade in 2013 equaled $562 billion.
• U.S. GDP in 2014 equaled $17.4 trillion.
• For the United States, a 90 percent loss in bilateral trade equals
a 3 percent decrease in trade, divided by GDP, which leads to a
1 Reuven Glick and Alan M. Taylor, “Collateral Damage: Trade Disruption and the Economic
Impact of War,” Review of Economics and Statistics, Vol. 92, No. 1, February 2010,
p. 108.
2 Glick and Taylor, 2010, p. 109.
3 Jeffrey A. Frankel and David Romer, “Does Trade Cause Growth?” American Economic
Review, Vol. 89, No. 3, June 1999, p. 385.
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6 percent decrease in GDP per capita (per year). (See Figures B.1
and B.2.)
• The United States would suffer a 6 percent decrease in GDP after
one year as a result of a 90 percent bilateral trade loss.
China’s Losses
• Total bilateral trade in 2013 equaled $562 billion.
• China’s GDP in 2014 equaled $9.2 trillion.
• For China, a 90 percent loss in bilateral trade equals a 5 percent
decrease in trade, divided by GDP, which leads to a 10 percent
decrease in GDP per capita (per year). (See Figures B.1 and B.2.)
• China would suffer a 10 percent decrease in GDP after one year
as a result of a 90 percent bilateral trade loss.
Figure B.1
Estimated Effect on GDP of Bilateral Trade Losses Because of War
NOTES: This graph illustrates the percentage by which GDP may decrease during war
as a result of bilateral trade losses. The upper limit of the y-axis indicates GDP at the
start of war; as the war continues, GDP at each point in time is given as a percentage
of GDP at the start of war.
RAND RR1140-B.1
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
GDP (%)
100
80
60
Economic Effects in the Severe Case, 2015 87
• China would suffer a 30 percent decrease in GDP after one
year as a result of a 90 percent bilateral trade loss, an 80 percent
East Asian regional trade loss, and a 50 percent global trade loss
(because of the postulated “war zone” effect on seaborne trade in
the Western Pacific).
Consumption
• Because the trade effects described above take account of some
of the consumption effects, this analysis of consumption effects
presents an upper bound.
Figure B.2
Estimated Effect on GDP of Overall Trade Losses Because of War
NOTES: This graph illustrates the percentage by which GDP may decrease during war
as a result of overall (bilateral, regional, and global) trade losses. The upper limit of
the y-axis indicates GDP at the start of war; as the war continues, GDP at each point
in time is given as a percentage of GDP at the start of war.
RAND RR1140-B.2
T0 T1 T2
Time
United
States
China
GDP (%)
100
80
60
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U.S. Losses
• Hess found that there is a 4 percent decline in consumption
because of war away from home.4
• U.S. consumption in 2013 equaled 68 percent of GDP.
• The United States could suffer a 3 percent decrease in GDP after
one year as a result of a decline in consumption.
China’s Losses
• Hess found that there is a 4.4 percent loss in consumption because
of war at home.5
• China’s consumption in 2013 equaled 34 percent of GDP.
• China could suffer a 2 percent decrease in GDP after one year as
a result of a decline in consumption.
• With a higher consumption share (60 percent of GDP), there
would be a 3 percent decrease in GDP after one year because of
consumption loss.
4 Gregory D. Hess, “The Economic Welfare Cost of Conflict: An Empirical Assessment,”
Working Paper No. 852, Munich, Germany: Center for Economic Studies and Ifo Institute
for Economic Research, February 2003, p. 12.
5 Hess, 2003, p. 12.
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Abbreviations
A2AD anti-access and area denial
ASAT anti-satellite
ASW anti-submarine warfare
C2 command and control
C4ISR command, control, communications,
computing, intelligence, surveillance, and
reconnaissance
EEZ Exclusive Economic Zone
GDP gross domestic product
INF Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces
ISIS Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
ISR intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance
MLRS multiple launch rocket system
NATO North Atlantic Treaty Organization
PLA People’s Liberation Army
PLAN People’s Liberation Army Navy
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Premeditated war between the United States and China is very unlikely, but the
danger that a mishandled crisis could trigger hostilities cannot be ignored. Thus,
while neither state wants war, both states’ militaries have plans to fight one. As
Chinese anti-access and area-denial (A2AD) capabilities improve, the United
States can no longer be so certain that war would follow its plan and lead to
decisive victory. This analysis illuminates various paths a war with China could
take and their possible consequences.
Technological advances in the ability to target opposing forces are creating
conditions of conventional counterforce, whereby each side has the means
to strike and degrade the other’s forces and, therefore, an incentive to do so
promptly, if not first. This implies fierce early exchanges, with steep military
losses on both sides, until one gains control. At present, Chinese losses would
greatly exceed U.S. losses, and the gap would only grow as fighting persisted.
But, by 2025, that gap could be much smaller. Even then, however, China could
not be confident of gaining military advantage, which suggests the possibility
of a prolonged and destructive, yet inconclusive, war. In that event, nonmilitary
factors—economic costs, internal political effects, and international reactions—
could become more important.
Political leaders on both sides could limit the severity of war by ordering their
respective militaries to refrain from swift and massive conventional counterforce
attacks. The resulting restricted, sporadic fighting could substantially reduce
military losses and economic harm. This possibility underscores the importance
of firm civilian control over wartime decisionmaking and of communication
between capitals. At the same time, the United States can prepare for a long
and severe war by reducing its vulnerability to Chinese A2AD forces and
developing plans to ensure that economic and international consequences
would work to its advantage.

@antonius123 Please do indicate where in this RAND report it said this

"Both belligerents have anti-satellite weapons (ASAT) that are nearly invulnerable to attack, meaning that both countries will be able to destroy a substantial portion of each other’s satellites. The destruction of the American satellite constellation would be especially problematic for the rest of the world since nearly all GPS units connect to American satellites."
The original RAND report didn't even mention US will lose like the title of the article you quote.

:lol: Please do not quote fake article and claim it is from RAND
 
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@jhungary, you become unprofessional.

It is you who accuse wearethemighty site as a fake site and Logan Nye has twisted RAND statement, but now you throw the burden of prove on me.

If you dare to accuse them twisting RAND or faking, then please prove!! show and bring here the RAND statement from RAND source that says the opposite: that ASAT could not be possible to hit GPS satts as you claim, dont ask me to prove the other way round.
 
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@jhungary, you become unprofessional.

It is you who accuse wearethemighty site as a fake site and Logan Nye has twisted RAND statement, but now you throw the burden of prove on me.

If you dare to accuse them twisting RAND or faking, then please prove!! show and bring here the RAND statement from RAND source that says the opposite: that ASAT could not be possible to hit GPS satts as you claim, dont ask me to prove the other way round.

I did prove the RAND report did not say this, I quote the whole report, anyone with a computer with copy and paste and search function can see there are no match in this.

I did not bring up the RAND report, you did, aren't the burden of proof have to fall on you first? I can't find what you say RAND said that, aren't that your repsonsibility to make sure your source say what you meant to say before posting? Or you are thinkiing posting infomration without verifying your source is responsible and professional.

RAND report have not contain even a sentense you claim RAND said, you are the fraudster here, not me. I did not claim RAND said this, you did, and now you are burdening the proof on me? lol.

And Logan Lye lol.......He has been debunk time and again with his War is Boring Blog. THat's the reason he open up a new name. @gambit someone is talking about Logan Nye again lol
 
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I did prove the RAND report did not say this, I quote the whole report, anyone with a computer with copy and paste and search function can see there are no match in this.

I did not bring up the RAND report, you did, aren't the burden of proof have to fall on you first? I can't find what you say RAND said that, aren't that your repsonsibility to make sure your source say what you meant to say before posting? Or you are thinkiing posting infomration without verifying your source is responsible and professional.

RAND report have not contain even a sentense you claim RAND said, you are the fraudster here, not me. I did not claim RAND said this, you did, and now you are burdening the proof on me? lol.

And Logan Lye lol.......He has been debunk time and again with his War is Boring Blog. THat's the reason he open up a new name. @gambit someone is talking about Logan Nye again lol


You cant find such statement from RAND yet doesn't mean that RAND never said that, that could mean that you / we haven't found it yet in their site.

If you dare to accuse the site is twisting RAND statement, you must bring the statement of RAND that say the opposite
 
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You cant find such statement from RAND yet doesn't mean that RAND never said that, that could mean that you / we haven't found it yet in their site.

If you dare to accuse the site is twisting RAND statement, you must bring the statement of RAND that say the opposite

I NEVER CLAIM RAND SAID THIS, YOU DID. That mean I do not have the responsibility to prove what you said is indeed correct, that burden is on you. I did not bring up the point that say this.

On my end, I said, RAND DID NOT SAY THAT IN THE REPORT SUPPLIED BY LOGAN NYE. The quote above is the proof, and nowhere did the report even mention ASAT in the capacity Logan Nye put in. And The report suggested that China will STILL LOSE A WAR WITH US IN 2025. I had prove my point, it's time for you to prove yours.
 
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http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html
I NEVER CLAIM RAND SAID THIS, YOU DID. That mean I do not have the responsibility to prove what you said is indeed correct, that burden is on you. I did not bring up the point that say this.

On my end, I said, RAND DID NOT SAY THAT IN THE REPORT SUPPLIED BY LOGAN NYE. The quote above is the proof, and nowhere did the report even mention ASAT in the capacity Logan Nye put in. And The report suggested that China will STILL LOSE A WAR WITH US IN 2025. I had prove my point, it's time for you to prove yours.

I have proved mine with this: http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/rand-report-war-with-china-us-loses-2025

Your prove / citation doesnt deny my citation.

If you can't find the similar statement from official RAND site, please visit this and find it, it is in pdf:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html
 
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This boils down to following:

1. What are the objectives
2. How far US, in particular, is willing to accomplish the above

At present, a conventional clash of limited-scale is expected between the two sides and American war-machine will steamroll Chinese war-machine in that. The outcome would be (more or less) similar even in a full-scale conventional clash between the two sides spanning over a large geographic area and/or several states. Anybody who assumes otherwise, is deluding himself or is ignorant of disparity in the military capability of both.

However, what comes next? Would US consider a regime-change (or) destruction of Chinese cities and Industrial capability (or) both?

I don't think a long-term invasion of Chinese mainland is a good idea since the odds of nuclear war would increase manifold after that and it may not even be a sustainable goal given the costs of logistics and the sheer size of Chinese population and its willingness to offer resistance. However, US might look for ways to inflict huge losses on Chinese population by destroying Three Gorges Dam (as pointed out by another member) and major population centers.

If US is hellbent on devastating China, it will have to consider all options on the table including a nuclear strike of massive proportions in order to neutralize Chinese nuclear assets in advance. Even if US succeeds in ending China as a civilization and a state, a large number of nuclear strikes would pollute the global environment for years to come. And I am not sure if that is an ideal outcome. Their is also the probability of US loosing a few cities of its own in a nuclear exchange.

In conclusion, a full-scale war between US and China is absolutely unlikely until nuclear weapons become obsolete and new means of mass destruction are pioneered. Secondly, two of the largest economies duking it out, implies global economic recession. So.... take off your seat belts please.

It is enough to destroy Chinas Trade.
 
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