What Does the United States Get from its Relationship with Israel?

[jammersat]

Food prices are very high in Israel. A lot of Jews are struggling to make a living. I know Jews returning to Germany but also the Netherlands.

I'm not an expert but i doubt if any real "jew" is currently struggling to make ends meet , lol , maybe later in the 21st century , but currently no "jew" struggles in the so called holy land , now matter , ashkenazi , mizranefim or Sephardim ,

if they immigrate to europe and USA it's out of curiosity not hardship in israel.

IMO, most East Asians I've met tended to be pretty neutral with regards to Israeli/Palestinian issues. Idk if it's different in the States though. You're right about some Indians blindly supporting Israel however. We see that here on PDF. I remember reading some years back, an article by some Indian fellow claiming how modern Western societies were built upon Judeo-Christian-Hindu Values.

I think it's easy to explain the hindu part , he's heard about indo-european languages and he's come up with that idea

But overall you are right , indians are more than eager to sell out and backstab people of middle eastern / islamic origin to gain approval and apprehence in the west , and israel plays an important role in the average anglo-saxon day to day mindset

 

[senheiser]

I believe it is the other way around. The world is more active in the condemnation of Israeli policies, and this has been seen in Israeli national news media. In particular there has been a rise in European opposition to Israel, and the United States has been vocal on some of Israel's defense operations.

funny how russia is the least anti israel countries in europe while jews and israelies almost all are russophobic to the bone @Solomon2 @500

 

[Aepsilons]

funny how russia is the least anti israel countries in europe while jews and israelies almost all are russophobic to the bone @Solomon2 @500

Anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[senheiser]

Anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and? just like what was common at the time, whats your point? The past is not the present situation. Its the arab world and the west who are now the most antisemitic yet their jewish/israely idiotic academics spent all their time bashing russia. Look also at the two jewish members i tagged how they dont respond because they are probably russophobic too and dont what say like: ''ahh yeah youre right we should respect russia more and know which people are hostile and which are friendly.''
So they dont want to say anything at all because reality hurts, lol.

 

[Aepsilons]

and? just like what was common at the time, whats your point? The past is not the present situation. Its the arab world and the west who are now the most antisemitic yet their jewish/israely idiotic academics spent all their time bashing russia. Look also at the two jewish members i tagged how they dont respond because they are probably russophobic too and dont what say like: ''ahh yeah youre right we should respect russia more and know which people are hostile and which are friendly.''
So they dont want to say anything at all because reality hurts, lol.

That very factor contributed to the Russian Jewish flight to the United States, Israel immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The presence of these so called pogroms were very real; just because a recent poll states that a "percentage" of Russians favor Israel is not concordant ; it does not agree to notion of anti-semitism.

Part of my understanding is from some of my friends (who are Americans, but of Russian Jewish origin) and the experiences he went through as well as what his family went through when they lived during the USSR.

I suggest you read the following, for elucidation :

YIVO | Pogroms

1990s Post-Soviet aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[senheiser]

That very factor contributed to the Russian Jewish flight to the United States, Israel immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The presence of these so called pogroms were very real; just because a recent poll states that a "percentage" of Russians favor Israel is not concordant ; it does not agree to notion of anti-semitism.

Part of my understanding is from some of my friends (who are Americans, but of Russian Jewish origin) and the experiences he went through as well as what his family went through when they lived during the USSR.

I suggest you read the following, for elucidation :

YIVO | Pogroms

1990s Post-Soviet aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

propaganda, they are brainwashed

 

[Aepsilons]

propaganda, they are brainwashed

That's all you can say? "Propaganda, they are brainwashed."

And i thought i could actually have an intellectual discussion with you.

 

[arbit]

I'm not an expert but i doubt if any real "jew" is currently struggling to make ends meet , lol , maybe later in the 21st century , but currently no "jew" struggles in the so called holy land , now matter , ashkenazi , mizranefim or Sephardim ,

if they immigrate to europe and USA it's out of curiosity not hardship in israel.



I think it's easy to explain the hindu part , he's heard about indo-european languages and he's come up with that idea

But overall you are right , indians are more than eager to sell out and backstab people of middle eastern / islamic origin to gain approval and apprehence in the west , and israel plays an important role in the average anglo-saxon day to day mindset

Oh please. If you are engaged in a oneupmanship contest with west, it doesn't mean any country which deals with your enemies is out to gain an approval from them. We deal according to our interests. We have had decent relations with Iran as well for decades bereft of any religious identity. Do not dish out half baked opinions such as above.

And don't think too much about the hindu part. You are so obsessed with your islam and muslims of the world you barely have any capacity left to comprehend heavier matters, leave alone the hindu part of indo european languages.

 

[Aepsilons]

Oh please. If you are engaged in a oneupmanship contest with west, it doesn't mean any country which deals with your enemies is out to gain an approval from them. We deal according to our interests. We have had decent relations with Iran as well for decades bereft of any religious identity. Do not dish out half baked opinions such as above.

And don't think too much about the hindu part. You are so obsessed with your islam and muslims of the world you barely have any capacity left to comprehend heavier matters, leave alone the hindu part of indo european languages.

I will agree with your point in the necessity in trying to maintain an unbiased vantage point when we discuss , most importantly the need to take in all political vantage points. Best!

 

[arbit]

I will agree with your point in the necessity in trying to maintain an unbiased vantage point when we discuss , most importantly the need to take in all political vantage points. Best!

That is going to be quite difficult here. For some, nations are the driving force behind their actions and for some others, religion takes precedence. How you converge the two will eventually decide if an unbiased vantage point is sustained or comes crashing down.

 

[Asian.Century]

For all its worth US got nothing from Israel in 72 years.