Remember the USS Liberty? The US and Israel wish you didn't

[Pak_Sher]

@Pak_Sher

Delete your comment mate.

The Jewish lady did poison Prophet Mohammad's and his Sahabaas food and one of the Sahabee who was really hungry took the first 2 bites before anyone and died minutes later. Prophet Mohammed did realize on the first bite that the taste was different and took the food out of his mouth. After that incident the Prophet Mohammed over the next year use to get fever for days often and never fully recovered. The poisoning worsened his health gradually and a year plus later he died. We also know Jesus was killed by the Romans with the backing of the Jewish people. If you can prove both these facts are wrong then I will delete my post.

 

[Falcon29]

The Jewish lady did poison Prophet Mohammad's and his Sahabaas food and one of the Sahabee who was really hungry took the first 2 bites before anyone and died minutes later. Prophet Mohammed did realize on the first bite that the taste was different and took the food out of his mouth. After that incident the Prophet Mohammed over the next year use to get fever for days often and never fully recovered. The poisoning worsened his health gradually and a year plus later he died. We also know Jesus was killed by the Romans with the backing of the Jewish people. If you can prove both these facts are wrong then I will delete my post.

I know that, it's just not relevant to the topic. He didn't die from her by the way. This is a myth spread by anti-Islam sentiments. The Prophet(SAW) knew he was going to die soon and told us before that incident.

 

[SALMAN F]

I hope the Zionists and Americans go to war against each other

 

[Falcon29]

I hope the Zionists and Americans go to war against each other

I hope we become active and act upon Gods decree.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

I hope the Zionists and Americans go to war against each other

This is the inevitable end to all such threads here on PDF, it would seem. I commend your consistency.

 

[cyphercide]

Remember the USS Liberty? The US and Israel wish you didn't

What?

Considering that the USS Liberty incident only concerned the US and Israel, who else is supposed to be outraged by it?

 

[Developereo]

Considering that the USS Liberty incident only concerned the US and Israel, who else is supposed to be outraged by it?

Everyone around the world who shares the US outrage over 9/11 and other terrorist attacks.

This was a deliberate and unprovoked attack on a US ship by Israel.

If any American politician dares to make an issue out of it, their political future in the US will be dead.

 

[cyphercide]

Everyone around the world who shares the US outrage over 9/11 and other terrorist attacks.

This was a deliberate and unprovoked attack on a US ship by Israel.

If any American politician dares to make an issue out of it, their political future in the US will be dead.

Not really. This is an incident exclusively involving two nations and going by their conclusions, it has been treated as resolved. No reason for a third party to fret about it.

Deliberate and unprovoked? In an aggressive environment, all bogies are treated as hostiles.

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Shit happens all the time, even the term "False Flag" literally traces back to the tradition of misleading or confusing the adversary.

Why only talk about the Israeli lobby? Let's not act as if the Saudi lobby isn't any less influential in Washington. Heck, wasn't the Pakistani lobby busted for the same not too long ago? Don't hate on the playa!!!

 

[Developereo]

Not really. This is an incident involving two nations and going by their conclusions, it is treated as resolved. No reason for a third party to fret about it.

9/11 was also about two nations, the US and Afghanistan, but everybody else jumped in.

Deliberate and unprovoked? In an aggressive environment, all bogeys are treated as hostiles.

USS Liberty was flying the American flag.
It was not an aggressive environment at the time of Israel's unprovoked aggression on the US ship. It was Israel who initiated hostilities and turned it into an "aggressive" environment, not anyone else.

One of the reasons for the deliberate, unprovoked attack was to eliminate third party observers and push the false Israeli narrative to the world.

Shit happens all the time, even the term "False flag" literally traces back to the tradition of misleading or confusing the adversary.

Deliberate attacks on friendly ships do not happen "all the time". There was nothing "false flag" about it; it was a deliberate and direct attack on a US ship by the Israeli military.

 

[cyphercide]

9/11 was also about two nations, the US and Afghanistan, but everybody else jumped in..

If you want to put it across that way, sure. But there never was any resolution between them, to put it lightly. To compare that with the USS Liberty incident is plain ridiculous.

USS Liberty was flying the American flag.
It was not an aggressive environment at the time of Israel's unprovoked aggression on the US ship. It was Israel who initiated hostilities and turned it into an "aggressive" environment, not anyone else.
One of the reasons for the deliberate, unprovoked attack was to eliminate third party observers and push the false Israeli narrative to the world.

The going theory is that Israelis mistook it for an Egyptian vessel. As confirmed before, shit happens.

Deliberate attacks on friendly ships do not happen "all the time". There was nothing "false flag" about it; it was a deliberate and direct attack on a US ship by the Israeli military.

What do you reckon happened then? And how come there ain't no comments about the Saudi lobby as discussed before ?

 

[Developereo]

The going theory is that Israelis mistook it for an Egyptian vessel. As confirmed before, shit happens.

Sure. The Egyptian flag looks almost identical to the American flag...

What do you reckon happened then?

It was a deliberate move by the Israelis to remove independent verification of their claims about who started what.

And how come there ain't no comments about the Saudi lobby as discussed before ?

The Saudi lobby is not even in the same league as the Israeli lobby.

The domination of the Israeli lobby in America is so utterly absolute that even discussing their influence is verboten, It is only a matter of time before accusations of anti-Semitism are used to quash any significant discussion of their control,

 

[cyphercide]

Sure. The Egyptian flag looks almost identical to the American flag...

Faulty intelligence. The Israeli ATC are on record in wait for confirmation. But let's treat it as if miscommunications have never happened in the history of war before, right? Never mind the fact the Israel opted to help out the struck vessel afterwards.

It was a deliberate move by the Israelis to remove independent verification of their claims about who started what.

If it were so, they would've blocked tapes and erased any records detrimental to their side of story. Not to add to the misery, USS Liberty would've been history if the Israelis wanted it so.

The Saudi lobby is not even in the same league as the Israeli lobby.

The domination of the Israeli lobby in America is so utterly absolute that even discussing their influence is verboten, It is only a matter of time before accusations of anti-Semitism are used to quash any significant discussion of their control,

What quantifies as the "same league" as Israel? Americans looking the other way when you sponsor some of the biggest terror networks from your backyard? Or is it Big Oil? Or is it Big Corporate? Or some shitty special interest group?

If they are all playas, why hate on any specific entity(Israel) on winning? You ran. You lost like a bitch. Better to quit whining, no?

 

[MOHSENAM]

shyte israhel

 

[Developereo]

Faulty intelligence. The Israeli ATC are on record in wait for confirmation. But let's treat it as if miscommunications have never happened in the history of war before, right? Never mind the fact the Israel opted to help out the struck vessel afterwards.

There was no faulty intelligence. The USS Liberty informed the Israelis who they were but the attack continued.

This was no mistake; it was a deliberate and unprovoked attack on a US ship by Israel.

If it were so, they would've blocked tapes and erased any records detrimental to their side of story. Not to add to the misery, USS Liberty would've been history if the Israelis wanted it so.

Every action has to be measured. The utter annihilation of an American warship would be much harder to explain away as a mistake. The Israelis did what they had to, and no more.

What quantifies as the "same league" as Israel? Americans looking the other way when you sponsor some of the biggest terror networks from your backyard? Or is it Big Oil? Or is it Big Corporate? Or some shitty special interest group?

Sending tens of thousands of your men and women to die for Israel's cause.

If they are all playas, why hate on any specific entity(Israel) on winning? You ran. You lost like a bitch. Better to quit whining, no?

No one's whining. The conquest of American politics by the Zionist lobby is an admirable feat, worthy of emulation.

What we are doing is pointing out that conquest, and the fact that the conquest is so utterly absolute that even discussing it is forbidden in most circles, including the American media. Rarely is a nation so utterly conquered to benefit a foreign entity.

As Voltaire wrote, "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"

 

[cyphercide]

There was no faulty intelligence. The USS Liberty informed the Israelis who they were but the attack continued.

This was no mistake; it was a deliberate and unprovoked attack on a US ship by Israel.

Every action has to be measured. The utter annihilation of an American warship would be much harder to explain away as a mistake. The Israelis did what they had to, and no more.

The recordings were made by a nearby American surveillance aircraft in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

"For your info, it is apparently an Arab ship," says ground control.

"Roger," says the pilot.

"It is an Egyptian supply ship," says ground control.

"Roger," comes the response.

The NSA released the tapes and transcripts under the Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from Miami Judge Jay Cristol.

An author of a book on the attack, Cristol said the tapes show it was a tragic accident in a time of war -- that the Israelis mistook the ship for an Egyptian one.

"I don't think there's any question that anyone who reads these tapes would be absolutely convinced there was the fog of war out there," Cristol said.

Later on the tape, the Israelis sound confused and concerned. Ground control orders the helicopter pilots to look for survivors and to check their nationality.

"If they speak Arabic -- Egyptians -- you're taking them to Al-Arish. If they speak English -- non-Egyptians -- you're taking them to Lod. Is that clear?" says ground control.

"Roger," says the pilot.

CNN.com - USS Liberty attack tapes released - Jul. 10, 2003

Sending tens of thousands of your men and women to die for Israel's cause.

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The conquest of American politics by the Zionist lobby is an admirable feat, worthy of emulation.

What we are doing is pointing out that conquest, and the fact that the conquest is so utterly absolute that even discussing it is forbidden in most circles, including the American media. Rarely is a nation so utterly conquered.

As Voltaire wrote, "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"

Emulation is the right word. I think that the Boa Constrictors of the Islamic community have(apparently so) failed and the rat snakes have failed...

Pakistan gave $4m to illegal Kashmiri lobby group in Washington - Asia - World - The Independent

Everything is fair game now. It would be largely disappointing if India doesn't buy into the table.