We Stand with People of Kashmir: Imran Khan

[Cherokee]

Stand or Sit or Dance with people of Kashmir . There's nothing else you can do about it .

 

[Tipu7]

Yeah we do jonah arthur,shamain,waz,eak,krash,umair nawaz,django and me(Mirpur)

Good......................
And how many from Jammu Kashmir................??? (IOK)...............???

 

[Atlanticore]

India consider it to be Part of her - Pakistan Army and Proxies can try their best to take Indian Kashmir. They've failed in Past, Present & Insha'allah fail in future to. This feeling is Mutual.

But we succeed in 1948, and what you see today on Global Map is Azad Kashmir in Pakistan. Allah have always been with Kashmiri Muslims, that is why they never gave up there struggle for their Freedom and Fundamental rights even with continous oppression by India's Hindu Regime and Kathputli sarkar. Freedom is their right and their fight is for their Freedom. With their Moto, Freedom of Indian Occupied Kashmir is inevitable. (INSHA ALLAH)
Jo chup rahay gi zuban-e-khanjar
Lahoo pukaray ga aasteen ka

 

[Parul]

But we succeed in 1948, and what you see today on Global Map is Azad Kashmir in Pakistan. Allah have always been with Kashmiri Muslims, that is why they never gave up there struggle for their Freedom and Fundamental rights even with continous oppression by India's Hindu Regime and Kathputli sarkar. Freedom is their right and their fight is for their Freedom. With their Moto, Freedom of Indian Occupied Kashmir is inevitable. (INSHA ALLAH)
Jo chup rahay gi zuban-e-khanjar
Lahoo pukaray ga aasteen ka

I Reiterate: They enjoy more Rights and Freedom them any other state of Dominion of India. Rest carry on with your Rants.

 

[Zibago]

Good......................
And how many from Jammu Kashmir................??? (IOK)...............???

There was one from iok last year shamain knows about him though most from iok here are hindus like sarthak and kashmiri pandit

I Reiterate: They enjoy more Rights and Freedom them any other state of Dominion of India. Rest carry on with your Rants.

Yep more rights like Pushanpura,Mass graves and forced to flee their homes and live as refugees sure who wouldnt be happy with that

 

[Parul]

Yep more rights like Pushanpura,Mass graves and forced to flee their homes and live as refugees sure who wouldnt be happy with that

Anyone questioning the Writ of the state would/should get bullet in his head. The Terrorist and none state actors are rotting in those unmarked graves.

It's other way around: Kashmiri Pundits are living as refugees, Courtesy Islamist Extremist.

 

[Zibago]

Anyone questioning the Writ of the state would/should get bullet in his head. The Terrorist and none state actors are rotting in those unmarked graves.

It's other way around: Kashmiri Pundits are living as refugees, Courtesy Islamist Extremist.

90,000 + tertorists or folks who dont want Indian raj over them?

Ah the pundit party again like i said a million times india justifies its attrocities in name of Pundits

40,000 refugees are living in Ajk as refugees and that is the no of post 90 refugees only

 

[Parul]

90,000 + tertorists or folks who dont want Indian raj over them?

Ah the pundit party again like i said a million times india justifies its attrocities in name of Pundits

40,000 refugees are living in Ajk as refugees and that is the no of post 90 refugees only

If anyone has grievance with state, they can raise their voice with Peaceful Protest - "Non Violence". If anyone uses guns - be it Hindu, Muslim, Sikhs etc. deserves bullet in head.

You had mentioned about Refugees - Kashmiri Pundits are the one living life of Refugees. Hence, I gave you the correct reference.

Indian Kashmir was peaceful before 89 & then the Taliban fighters decided to wage Proxy war in Kashmir which was supported by... Hence, the plight of Kahmiris.

 

[Atlanticore]

I Reiterate: They enjoy more Rights and Freedom them any other state of Dominion of India. Rest carry on with your Rants.

More rights hun . Excuse me but I am not Talking about Hindu's Living in Kashmir, I am talking about the rights of Muslim Majority.
1):. They are not allowed to offer Cow Sacrifices on Eid-Ul-Azha which is part of Islamic faith.
2):. Kashmiri Muslims are threatened for their lives for eating Beef.
3):. Muharram processions have been banned in Kashmir since the conflict started after the End of 1948 WAR.
4):. Curfews are part of daily routinee in Kashmir and they have been feeling difficulty in practicing their religion.
Yeah. May be Hindu's of Kashmir may have rights. But Kashmir isn't Hindu property.

 

[Zibago]

If anyone has grievance with state, they can raise their voice with Peaceful Protest - "Non Violence". If anyone uses guns - be it Hindu, Muslim, Sikhs etc. deserves bullet in head.

You had mentioned about Refugees - Kashmiri Pundits are the one living life of Refugees. Hence, I gave you the correct reference.

Indian Kashmir was peaceful before 89 & then the Taliban fighters decided to wage Proxy war in Kashmir which was supported by... Hence, the plight of Kahmiris.

Use peaceful ways and get arrested or killed for consuming beef we know how it works
Kashmir never was peaceful only the intensity varied
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[Parul]

Use peaceful ways and get arrested or killed for consuming beef we know how it works
Kashmir never was peaceful only the intensity varied
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I eat beef and have not been killed for eating it.

Kashmir was Peaceful prior to Terrorist waged Proxy war in 1989, as they got unemployed after Russia withdrew from Afghanistan. I request you to provide references of unrest in Kashmir prior to 1989.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

After 1947 no one thought that the Nation formed on basis of Religion will be Partitioned - East Pakistan. People of Jammu and Kashmir enjoy all the freedom and liberties which any other state in Dominion of India Enjoys - in fact more. And your point is?

Bangladesh has nothing in common with us in terms of race, culture, traditions and even to some extent - religion. Meanwhile, Kashmiris look like us, talk like us, have the same religion and culture. They are an integral part of PAKISTAN and barely have anything to do with India.

Your 'freedom' and liberties' wont wash away the blood of over 50,000 Kashmiris killed, constant harassment and brutality by security forces, constant curfews and religious restrictions such as Muharram and Bakra Eid. Kashmiris will always keep that in their minds and no quantity of state propaganda, intimidation and 'freedom/liberties' will ever stop that. We've seen - always in history; when you oppress a massive population for a long period of time, they will break into a revolt; no matter how many times you put down that revolt.

Pakistan wont liberate Kashmir, Kashmiris will do that them selves - just like how Baltis liberated GB.


If India continues this occupation, those men with sticks and stones will soon have Ak's and grenades.

India consider it to be Part of her - Pakistan Army and Proxies can try their best to take Indian Kashmir. They've failed in Past, Present & Insha'allah fail in future to. This feeling is Mutual.

India considers Kashmir to be apart of India but the inhabitants of Kashmir dont - that is why its considered an occupation. Pakistan will not take IoK - Kashmiris will do that themselves.

If anyone has grievance with state, they can raise their voice with Peaceful Protest - "Non Violence". If anyone uses guns - be it Hindu, Muslim, Sikhs etc. deserves bullet in head.

You had mentioned about Refugees - Kashmiri Pundits are the one living life of Refugees. Hence, I gave you the correct reference.

Indian Kashmir was peaceful before 89 & then the Taliban fighters decided to wage Proxy war in Kashmir which was supported by... Hence, the plight of Kahmiris.

If demands are not met after 'peaceful protests' then violence will occur - no matter what.

Also, dont even talk about Kashmiri Pundits when in 1947; millions of Kashmiris were forced from their homes and now make up half the population of Punjab. Nawaz Sharif's parents/grand parents were all Kashmiri refugees including my grand parents. Stories of horrific atrocities commited by Indians and Dogra regime still echoe within these Kashmiri communities.

 

[Parul]

@Talwar e Pakistan

Bangladesh has nothing in common with us in terms of race, culture, traditions and even to some extent - religion. Meanwhile, Kashmiris look like us, talk like us, have the same religion and culture. They are an integral part of PAKISTAN and barely have anything to do with India.

East Pakistan - it was created in name of Religion. They also have same Religion like Kashmiri and Pakistani i.e. Islam.

Pakistan wont liberate Kashmir, Kashmiris will do that them selves - just like how Baltis liberated GB.

Pakistan Army has tried at least Four Times and it failed. The non state actors etc have been trying it, but failed and getting dumped in Unmarked Graves.

An Independent state of Jammu and Kashmir was invaded by Pakistan with the help of Tribal Lashker. This is a well documented fact. Just lurk few old threads to learn on the subject.

If you wish I can help you with the links to the threads.

If India continues this occupation, those men with sticks and stones will soon have Ak's and grenades.

They are already fighting with AK's and Grenades ever since unemployed Taliban's waged the Proxy war in Kashmir. This is largely responsible for the current plight of People of Jammu and Kashmir.

India considers Kashmir to be apart of India but the inhabitants of Kashmir dont - that is why its considered an occupation. Pakistan will not take IoK - Kashmiris will do that themselves.

Per the UN Resolutions, it's India's Neighbour who is the occupational force.

If demands are not met after 'peaceful protests' then violence will occur - no matter what.

Anyone restoring to Violence will get bullet in his forehead.

Also, dont even talk about Kashmiri Pundits when in 1947; millions of Kashmiris were forced from their homes and now make up half the population of Punjab. Nawaz Sharif's parents/grand parents were all Kashmiri refugees including my grand parents. Stories of horrific atrocities commited by Indians and Dogra regime still echoe within these Kashmiri communities.

My Grandparents to Migrated to Jalandhar from Rawalpindi and Lahore. I've also read the Horrific atrocities which they faced during Partition of British India. This is not the subject of thread.

In the meantime, please read the letters from Maharaja Hari Singh to Lord Mountbatten. Might help you to learn about the issue and HORRIFIC ATTROCITIES faced by Kashmiris in the hands of Lashker etc..

The letters
Letter from Maharaja Hari Singh to Lord Mountbatten on Pak invasion of J&K in 1947

My dear Lord Mountbatten,

I have to inform Your Excellency that a grave emergency has arisen in my State and request the immediate assistance of your Government. As Your Excellency is aware,the State of Jammu and Kashmir has not acceded to either the Dominion of India or Pakistan. Geographically my State is contiguous with both of them. Besides, my State has a common boundary with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and with China. In their external relations the Dominion of India and Pakistan cannot ignore this fact. I wanted to take time to decide to which Dominion I should accede or whether it is not in the best interests of both the Dominions and of my State to stand independent, of course with friendly and cordial relations with both. I accordingly approached the Dominions of India and Pakistan to enter into standstill agreement with my State. The Pakistan Government accepted this arrangement. The Dominion of India desired further discussion with representatives of my Government. I could not arrange this in view of the developments indicated below. ln fact the Pakistan Goernment under the standstill agreement is operating the post and telegraph system inside the State. Though we have got a standstill agreement with the Pakistan Government, the Govemment permitted a steady and increasing strangulation of supplies like food, salt and petrol to my State.

Afridis, soldiers in plain clothes, and desperadoes with modern weapons have been allowed to infiltrate into the State, at first in the Poonch area, then from Sialkot and finally in a mass in the area adjoining-Hazara district on the Ramkote side. The result has been that the limited number of troops at the disposal of the State had to be dispersed and thus had to face the enemy at several points simultaneously, so that it has become difficult to stop the wanton destruction of life and property and the looting of the Mahura power house, which supplies electric current to the whole of Srinagar and which has been burnt. The number of women who have been kidnapped and raped makes my heart bleed. The wild forces thus let loose on the State are marching on with the aim of capturing Srinagar, the summer capital of my government, as a first step to overrunning the whole State. The mass infiltration of tribesman drawn from distant areas of the North-West Frontier Province, coming regularly in motortrucks, using the Manwehra-Mazaffarabad road and fully armed with up-to-date weapons, cannot possibly be done without the knowledge of the Provincial Govemment of the North-West Frontier Province and the Government of Pakistan. Inspite of repeated appeals made by my Government no attempt has been made to check these raiders or to stop them from coming into my State. In fact, both radio and the Press of Pakistan have reported these occurences. The Pakistan radio even put out the story that a provisional government has been set up in Kashmir. The people of my State, both Muslims and non-Muslims, generally have taken no part at all.

With the conditbns obtaining at present in my State and the great emergency of the situation as it exists, I have no option but to ask for help from the Indian Dominion. Naturally they cannot send the help asked for by me without my State acceding to the Dominion of India. I have accordingly decided to do so, and I attach the instrument of accession for acceptance by your Government. The other alternative is to leave my state and people to free booters. On this basis no civilised government can exist or be maintained.

This alternative I will never allow to happen so long as I am the ruler of the State and I have life to defend my country. I may also inform your Excellency's Government that it is my intention at once to set up an interim government and to ask Sheikh Abdullah to carry the responsibilities in this emergency with my Prime Minister.

If my State is to be saved, immediate assistance must be available at Srinagar. Mr. V.P. Menon is fully aware of the gravity of the situation and will explain it to you, if further explanation is needed.

In haste and with kindest regards,

Yours sincerely,

Hari Singh
October 26, 1947


Response from Lord Mountbatten

My dear Maharaja Sahib,

Your Highness' letter dated 26 October 1947 has been delivered to me by Mr. V.P. Menon. In the circumstances mentioned by Your Highness, my Government have decided to accept the accession of Kashmir State to the Dominion of India. In consistence with their policy that in the case of any State where the issue of accession has been the subject of dispute, the question of accession should be decided in accordance with the wishes of the people of the State, it is my Government's wish that, as soon as law and order have been restored in Kashmir and its soil cleared of the invader, the question of the State's accession should be settled by a reference to the people.

Meanwhile, in response to Your Highness' appeal for military aid, action has been taken today to send troops of the Indian Army to Kashmir, to help your own forces to defend your territory and to protect the lives, property, and honour of your people. My Government and I note with satisfaction that Your Highness has decided to invite Sheikh Abdullah to form an interim Government to work with your Prime Minister.

Mountbatten of Burma
October 27, 1947

Source: The Kashmir Resolutions - Explanations

 

[Paksanity]

Even those who are from Jammu Kashmir...............?

There were a few but they were taking a great risk. They could be traced by occupying forces.

 

[ssethii]

@Talwar e Pakistan






Response from Lord Mountbatten

My dear Maharaja Sahib,

Your Highness' letter dated 26 October 1947 has been delivered to me by Mr. V.P. Menon. In the circumstances mentioned by Your Highness, my Government have decided to accept the accession of Kashmir State to the Dominion of India. In consistence with their policy that in the case of any State where the issue of accession has been the subject of dispute, the question of accession should be decided in accordance with the wishes of the people of the State, it is my Government's wish that, as soon as law and order have been restored in Kashmir and its soil cleared of the invader, the question of the State's accession should be settled by a reference to the people.

Meanwhile, in response to Your Highness' appeal for military aid, action has been taken today to send troops of the Indian Army to Kashmir, to help your own forces to defend your territory and to protect the lives, property, and honour of your people. My Government and I note with satisfaction that Your Highness has decided to invite Sheikh Abdullah to form an interim Government to work with your Prime Minister.

Mountbatten of Burma
October 27, 1947

Source: The Kashmir Resolutions - Explanations

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