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We Stand with People of Kashmir: Imran Khan

There are some serious comprehension issues with Indians on the matters you would disagree with them. let me tone it down for you and your lot although I'm hopeless and consider it a waste of time after so many disappointing experiences.
Maharajah declares state of emergency and ask for help from India.
Mountbatten accepts the plea and favors Indian involvement for restoring peace in the region as other party is portrayed to be oppressor in this case but also acknowledges the disputed nature of the area and under the framework of partition plan offers a solution. The solution which was also supported by UN later when India approached it.

Pakistan demands the solution to be implemented in Jammu and Kashmir in it's entirety not in the areas of Indian interest. Rest of your argument is valid that non-Kashmirs who came to Kashmir after Independence should not be included in the vote and I would extend that logic to other Kashmiris who migrated after Independence to be included in the vote.

There's no vote happening till china accedes the part that Pakistan handed to them and aksai chin.

The practising ones..which means the majority

The sunni deobandis of the valley are quite different then the sufi or the Shia of the valley..

The sunni deobandis are isis poster bois at the present moment.
 
The sunni deobandis of the valley are quite different then the sufi or the Shia of the valley..

The sunni deobandis are isis poster bois at the present moment.

Deobandis and sufis are the same...deoandis are sufis

Doesn't matter. .The chinese need to accede the land.

Well that bit of Mother India is never gonna come back :chilli:
 
The maharajah of Kashmir massacred thousands of Muslims because he was trying to change the demographics of the state. This led to a Muslim rebellion in Poonch. Then came the tribals and off went the raja.
This is the narrative of the other side that's why it is a conflict. I'm pointing to a law which was agreed upon by both parties after lengthy discussions which one party has violated. This is a fact and nobody can deny it.

There's no vote happening till china accedes the part that Pakistan handed to them and aksai chin.
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Favors Pakistan, Let's bring in China in the talks for Kashmir too.
 
Deobandis and sufis are the same...deoandis are sufis



Well that bit of Mother India is never gonna come back :chilli:

Both are sunnies. ..just the ideologies differ..wahaabis salafis jamaatis are sunnies too..Not exactly the pleasant type to have around..

Lol..give it time, everything is possible.

This is the narrative of the other side that's why it is a conflict. I'm pointing to a law which was agreed upon by both parties after lengthy discussions which one party has violated. This is a fact and nobody can deny it.


Favors Pakistan, Let's bring in China in the talks for Kashmir too.

Chinese aren't really party to it..except for land grab issues.

Pakistan is all geared up to observe Kashmir Solidarity Day to denounce Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan region claimed in whole by both countries.

This is an annual ritual since 1990. The stated objective of this exercise is to highlight the so-called aspirations of the people of Kashmir who are supposedly struggling to achieve self-determination. The actual objective is downright propaganda, totally divorced from the reality on ground. Overall, it is a pointless exercise in futility.

Where is the solidarity?
The idea of Pakistan expressing solidarity with the people of Jammu and Kashmir is preposterous at the very outset. Where one wonders is the oneness of cause or interest or a feeling of solidarity?

Pakistan claims an emotional bond with the people of Kashmir. This is a fallacious claim. What exactly has it done for the people of Kashmir over the last six decades since it has been rendering ?diplomatic and moral support? to them? It has only caused bloodshed and untold misery by exposing the region to barbaric terrorism.


Pakistan is highly polarised within itself
Pakistan also claims a cultural and ideological bond with the people of Kashmir. This too is a fallacious claim. Jammu and Kashmir comprises of people with different ethnicity in its three regions of Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh. How can it claim cultural affinity with Kashmir and its cause?

What solidarity can Pakistan foster with their issues and aspirations when it is highly polarised within itself and in the throes of an intractable conflict?

Of liberty and freedom
Jammu and Kashmir is an integral and constitutional part of the Indian Union. Its people enjoy all fruits of liberty and freedom enshrined in the Indian Constitution and also a special status that grants them some additional benefits. The region regularly witnesses free and fair elections. Changes in governance are implemented seamlessly.
The state boasts of high parameters of development in important segments like infrastructure, benefits under the rural employment guarantee scheme, free quality education, health care, development of basic sectors like agriculture and horticulture etc.

Pakistan Occupied Jammu Kashmir (POJK), on the other hand, is a fiefdom that the Government of Pakistan that has been mercilessly exploited, dismembered and dismantled to serve the interests of the Pakistani state. Most of the illegally occupied territory has already been converted into a virtual colony of the ruling Punjabi elite while a huge portion has been callously transferred to China.

Pakistan has, for ease of management, divided POJK into two entities, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) and Gilgit-Baltistan. This facilitates suppression by the principle of divide and rule. Both entities have been given a sham system of self governance with actual power vested in the draconian Ministry of Kashmir Affairs in the federal government.

Forgotten people
The travails of the people living in these occupied territories remain hidden from the world because of the media restrictions imposed in the region. There is hardly any newspaper being published over there, what to talk of the electronic media. The world gets to see only a few video clips that are smuggled out and shown by freedom fighters of the area living in exile across the globe.
The brutality of the establishment is clearly visible in these footages which are available on social media. In these videos, people are seen protesting in vast numbers against the atrocities being heaped upon them. The very clear message is that the people wish to rid themselves of Pakistan's colonial yoke.

Reeling from a series of natural calamities
Apart from being in doldrums politically, Azad Kashmir is reeling from a series of natural calamities. It had not got over the devastating earthquake of 2005, when it was, once again, afflicted by distressing floods in 2014. No attempt is being made to ameliorate the suffering of the people. Vast aid from international donors has been routed to militant organisations like the Jamaat-ud-Dawa to be used for terror activities against India. Relief operations have thus been sidelined.

China has been given a clear run by Pakistan to exploit Gilgit-Baltistan. The latest in this unholy alliance is the ambitious China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which is expected to give a massive USD 42 billion boost to the Pakistani economy while running through Gilgit-Baltistan. When the corridor does come up, it is definitely not the people of Gilgit-Baltistan who will be the beneficiaries. They have simply been called upon to forfeit their land.

Propaganda is mostly along predictable lines
The propaganda organised for Kashmir Solidarity Day is mostly along predictable lines. The puppet government of Azad Kashmir will be forming human chains at all bridges linking Pakistan to the occupied territories. The act is supposed to reiterate the solidarity of the Pakistani nation with the Kashmiris. Pakistan's political leaders will go to Kashmiri refugee camps and hand out some dole to the deprived people living there under most pathetic conditions, and of course, there will be a joint session of the so-called Kashmir Legislative Assembly in POJK to reiterate complete faith in Pakistan.

Within Pakistan, the ritual is to observe one minute silence throughout the country. Orchestrated processions, with banners and leaflets, will be taken out in a few major cities. Fundamentalist Jihadi leaders like Mohammad Asghar and Hafiz Muhammad Saeed (Who has, on 4 November, given a curtain raiser inflammatory speech at Muzaffarabad, Azad Kashmir). These criminals should actually be behind bars, yet, they openly spout venom against India and exhort their followers to pick up the gun in support of their so-called downtrodden brethren in Kashmir.

Kashmir will, on this day, witness the proverbial Bandh leading to the avoidable loss of a working day. Some marginalised politicians will get an opportunity to occupy media space and lick up to their masters across the border so that the flow of funds is maintained.

It is quite amazing that Pakistan harbours the illusion of covering up its misdeeds by observing a Kashmir Solidarity Day. The nation should realise that the people of Jammu and Kashmir and POJK are not fools to be taken in by such idiotic propaganda. Pakistan should understand that it cannot shake the Kashmiri bond with the Indian union by indulging in politically motivated and propagandist actions.

422712-kashmir-solidarity-day-in-pakistan-afp.jpg

Kashmir Solidarity Day: A pointless exercise in futility
Young Pakistani children hold toy weapons as supporters of the banned organisation Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) shout anti-Indian slogans during a protest to mark Kashmir Solidarity Day, in Peshawar on February 5, 2016. Next generation of Jihadi in the making.
 
Pakistan is all geared up to observe Kashmir Solidarity Day to denounce Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan region claimed in whole by both countries.

This is an annual ritual since 1990. The stated objective of this exercise is to highlight the so-called aspirations of the people of Kashmir who are supposedly struggling to achieve self-determination. The actual objective is downright propaganda, totally divorced from the reality on ground. Overall, it is a pointless exercise in futility.

Where is the solidarity?
The idea of Pakistan expressing solidarity with the people of Jammu and Kashmir is preposterous at the very outset. Where one wonders is the oneness of cause or interest or a feeling of solidarity?

Pakistan claims an emotional bond with the people of Kashmir. This is a fallacious claim. What exactly has it done for the people of Kashmir over the last six decades since it has been rendering ?diplomatic and moral support? to them? It has only caused bloodshed and untold misery by exposing the region to barbaric terrorism.


Pakistan is highly polarised within itself
Pakistan also claims a cultural and ideological bond with the people of Kashmir. This too is a fallacious claim. Jammu and Kashmir comprises of people with different ethnicity in its three regions of Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh. How can it claim cultural affinity with Kashmir and its cause?

What solidarity can Pakistan foster with their issues and aspirations when it is highly polarised within itself and in the throes of an intractable conflict?

Of liberty and freedom
Jammu and Kashmir is an integral and constitutional part of the Indian Union. Its people enjoy all fruits of liberty and freedom enshrined in the Indian Constitution and also a special status that grants them some additional benefits. The region regularly witnesses free and fair elections. Changes in governance are implemented seamlessly.
The state boasts of high parameters of development in important segments like infrastructure, benefits under the rural employment guarantee scheme, free quality education, health care, development of basic sectors like agriculture and horticulture etc.

Pakistan Occupied Jammu Kashmir (POJK), on the other hand, is a fiefdom that the Government of Pakistan that has been mercilessly exploited, dismembered and dismantled to serve the interests of the Pakistani state. Most of the illegally occupied territory has already been converted into a virtual colony of the ruling Punjabi elite while a huge portion has been callously transferred to China.

Pakistan has, for ease of management, divided POJK into two entities, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (***) and Gilgit-Baltistan. This facilitates suppression by the principle of divide and rule. Both entities have been given a sham system of self governance with actual power vested in the draconian Ministry of Kashmir Affairs in the federal government.

Forgotten people
The travails of the people living in these occupied territories remain hidden from the world because of the media restrictions imposed in the region. There is hardly any newspaper being published over there, what to talk of the electronic media. The world gets to see only a few video clips that are smuggled out and shown by freedom fighters of the area living in exile across the globe.
The brutality of the establishment is clearly visible in these footages which are available on social media. In these videos, people are seen protesting in vast numbers against the atrocities being heaped upon them. The very clear message is that the people wish to rid themselves of Pakistan's colonial yoke.

Reeling from a series of natural calamities
Apart from being in doldrums politically, *** is reeling from a series of natural calamities. It had not got over the devastating earthquake of 2005, when it was, once again, afflicted by distressing floods in 2014. No attempt is being made to ameliorate the suffering of the people. Vast aid from international donors has been routed to militant organisations like the Jamaat-ud-Dawa to be used for terror activities against India. Relief operations have thus been sidelined.

China has been given a clear run by Pakistan to exploit Gilgit-Baltistan. The latest in this unholy alliance is the ambitious China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which is expected to give a massive USD 42 billion boost to the Pakistani economy while running through Gilgit-Baltistan. When the corridor does come up, it is definitely not the people of Gilgit-Baltistan who will be the beneficiaries. They have simply been called upon to forfeit their land.

Propaganda is mostly along predictable lines
The propaganda organised for Kashmir Solidarity Day is mostly along predictable lines. The puppet government of *** will be forming human chains at all bridges linking Pakistan to the occupied territories. The act is supposed to reiterate the solidarity of the Pakistani nation with the Kashmiris. Pakistan's political leaders will go to Kashmiri refugee camps and hand out some dole to the deprived people living there under most pathetic conditions, and of course, there will be a joint session of the so-called Kashmir Legislative Assembly in POJK to reiterate complete faith in Pakistan.

Within Pakistan, the ritual is to observe one minute silence throughout the country. Orchestrated processions, with banners and leaflets, will be taken out in a few major cities. Fundamentalist Jihadi leaders like Mohammad Asghar and Hafiz Muhammad Saeed (Who has, on 4 November, given a curtain raiser inflammatory speech at Muzaffarabad, ***). These criminals should actually be behind bars, yet, they openly spout venom against India and exhort their followers to pick up the gun in support of their so-called downtrodden brethren in Kashmir.

Kashmir will, on this day, witness the proverbial Bandh leading to the avoidable loss of a working day. Some marginalised politicians will get an opportunity to occupy media space and lick up to their masters across the border so that the flow of funds is maintained.

It is quite amazing that Pakistan harbours the illusion of covering up its misdeeds by observing a Kashmir Solidarity Day. The nation should realise that the people of Jammu and Kashmir and POJK are not fools to be taken in by such idiotic propaganda. Pakistan should understand that it cannot shake the Kashmiri bond with the Indian union by indulging in politically motivated and propagandist actions.

422712-kashmir-solidarity-day-in-pakistan-afp.jpg

Kashmir Solidarity Day: A pointless exercise in futility
Young Pakistani children hold toy weapons as supporters of the banned organisation Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) shout anti-Indian slogans during a protest to mark Kashmir Solidarity Day, in Peshawar on February 5, 2016. Next generation of Jihadi in the making.
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No.
Nobody stand with my Kashmir.
Only Kashmiri stands with Kashmir.
Whenever we being targeted by Worlds 3rd largest Indian Coward Army. Our eyes looks for an "Sultan Sulah-o-Ayyubbi.
Nawaz Sharif playing double game with us!

I got so many videos that how Indian Army Offiers killis innocent women, children, men. Because they says that we want freedom from India!

Insha Allah, 1 day my Kashmir will be FREE from India!
 
Both are sunnies
Did you mean Sunnis? :coffee:
sunnies means sunglasses. :)

“We stand in solidarity with Kashmiri people and for their rights and freedom,” he said.
Ah! lets begin by following UN's resolution first.
Pakistan should demilitarize their part of Kashmir.
I hope better sense prevails among pakistani politicians and that they will concentrate on their internal issues first.
 
Did you mean Sunnis? :coffee:
sunnies means sunglasses. :)


Ah! lets begin by following UN's resolution first.
Pakistan should demilitarize their part of Kashmir.
I hope better sense prevails among pakistani politicians and that they will concentrate on their internal issues first.

UN's resolutions have been superseded by the Simla Agreement and its binding stipulations to resolve all outstanding matters bilaterally.
 
422712-kashmir-solidarity-day-in-pakistan-afp.jpg

Kashmir Solidarity Day: A pointless exercise in futility
Young Pakistani children hold toy weapons as supporters of the banned organisation Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) shout anti-Indian slogans during a protest to mark Kashmir Solidarity Day, in Peshawar on February 5, 2016. Next generation of Jihadi in the making.
This is good Sir. Think about it carefully.

It is far far better to have a Pakistani children learning about guns and jihad along with conspiracies like they have for decades rather than maths and science.


Guns and jihad would make them terrorists and useful fools in general. That is good. At best in this scenario we lose a few people to their terrorism.

But if they become engineers and scientists, Pakistan would be a different kind of enemy then.

Today, Pakistan is a pushover precisely because Pakistanis believe they are Islam ka qila. The entire national discourse is based on this and world conspiracy against Islam. If their national discourse changes to math/science/progress, that would be the real danger for us.

We are fortunate to have an enemy like Pakistan. It should continue.
 
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