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We are only willing to discuss Pakistan held Kashmir: Indian minister
PublishedSeptember 15, 2015 | Byadmin

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Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh has said that Kashmir was and would remain an integral part of India and the Indian government was ready to talk with Islamabad only on Pakistan administered Kashmir.

While addressing the inaugural session of a lectures series on national security challenge and strategy under Y N Singh Memorial Foundation toay, he said that India was always eager for forging friendly ties with its neighbouring countries. “Our policy is not to disturb any one, but if someone fires bullet on us first, then we will not count retaliatory bullets,” he said.

Answering a question on the Kashmir issue, he said “I have made it clear to Pakistan Rangers during a recent meeting that Kashmir was and would remain an integral part of India. If you want to talk, then talk only about the Pakistan administered Kashmir and not this part of Kashmir. Safeguarding 23,000 kilometers of the borders of the country is a challenge, but their protection is under way,” he said.
 
Rasi jal gaye bal nahi gaya...
lol they will evantually force themselves to participate peace talk :).
 
We All Members Need to go through the History about the How Conflict has been arisen and what are the Claims from both the Parties.

Indian view


Maharaja Hari Singh signed the Instrument of Accession in October 1947 under which he acceded the State of Jammu and Kashmir to the Union of India.
India has officially stated that it believes that Kashmir to be an integral part of India, though the then Prime Minister of India, Manmohan Singh, stated after the 2010 Kashmir Unrest that his government was willing to grant autonomy to the region within the purview of Indian constitution if there was consensus[by whom?] on this issue.[78] The Indian viewpoint is succinctly summarised by Ministry of External affairs, Government of India[79][80]

  • India holds that the Instrument of Accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to the Union of India, signed by Maharaja Hari Singh (erstwhile ruler of the State) on 25October 1947[81][82] and executed on 27October 1947[82] between the ruler of Kashmir and the Governor General of India was a legal act and completely valid in terms of the Government of India Act (1935), Indian Independence Act (1947) as well as under international law and as such was total and irrevocable.[80]
  • The Constituent assembly of Jammu and Kashmir had unanimously ratified the Maharaja's Instrument of Accession to India and adopted a constitution for the state that called for a perpetual merger of Jammu and Kashmir with the Union of India. India claims that the constituent assembly was a representative one, and that its views were those of the Kashmiri people at the time.[83][84]
  • United Nations Security Council Resolution 1172 tacitly accepts India's stand regarding all outstanding issues between India and Pakistan and urges the need to resolve the dispute through mutual dialogue without the need for a plebiscite.[85]
  • United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 cannot be implemented since Pakistan failed to withdraw its forces from Kashmir, which was the first step in implementing the resolution.[36] India is also of the view that Resolution 47 is obsolete, since the geography and demographics of the region have permanently altered since it adoption.[86] The resolution was passed by United Nations Security Council under Chapter VI of the United Nations Charter and as such is non-binding with no mandatory enforceability, as opposed to resolutions passed under Chapter VII.[38][39]
  • India does not accept the two-nation theory that forms the basis of Pakistan's claims and considers that Kashmir, despite being a Muslim-majority state, is in many ways an "integral part" of secular India.[75]
  • The state of Jammu and Kashmir was provided with significant autonomy under Article 370 of the Constitution of India.[87]
  • All differences between India and Pakistan, including Kashmir, need to be settled through bilateral negotiations as agreed to by the two countries under the Simla Agreement signed on 2July 1972.[88]
Additional Indian viewpoints regarding the broader debate over the Kashmir conflict include –

  • In a diverse country like India, disaffection and discontent are not uncommon. Indian democracy has the necessary resilience to accommodate genuine grievances within the framework of India's sovereignty, unity, and integrity. The Government of India has expressed its willingness to accommodate the legitimate political demands of the people of the state of Kashmir.[79]
  • Insurgency and terrorism in Kashmir is deliberately fuelled by Pakistan to create instability in the region.[89] The Government of India has repeatedly accused Pakistan of waging a proxy war in Kashmir by providing weapons and financial assistance to terrorist groups in the region.[90][91][92][93]
  • Pakistan is trying to raise anti-India sentiment among the people of Kashmir by spreading false propaganda against India.[94] According to the state government of Jammu and Kashmir, Pakistani radio and television channels deliberately spread "hate and venom" against India to alter Kashmiri opinion.[95]
  • India has asked the United Nations not to leave unchallenged or unaddressed the claims of moral, political, and diplomatic support for terrorism, which were clearly in contravention of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373. This is a Chapter VII resolution that makes it mandatory for member states to not provide active or passive support to terrorist organisations.[96][97] Specifically, it has pointed out that the Pakistani government continues to support various terrorist organisations, such as Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba, in direct violation of this resolution.[98]
  • India points out reports by human rights organisations condemning Pakistan for the lack of civic liberties in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.[94][99] According to India, most regions of Pakistani Kashmir, especially Northern Areas, continue to suffer from lack of political recognition, economic development, and basic fundamental rights.[100]
  • Karan Singh, the son of the last ruler of the princely state of Kashmir and Jammu, has said that the Instrument of Accession signed by his father was the same as signed by other states. He opined that Kashmir was therefore a part of India, and that its special status granted by Article 370 of the Indian Constitution stemmed from the fact that it had its own constitution.[101]

Pakistani view


Map of Kashmir as drawn by the Government of Pakistan
Pakistan maintains that Kashmir is the "jugular vein of Pakistan"[103] and a currently disputed territory whose final status must be determined by the people of Kashmir. Pakistan's claims to the disputed region are based on the rejection of Indian claims to Kashmir, namely the Instrument of Accession. Pakistan insists that the Maharaja was not a popular leader, and was regarded as a tyrant by most Kashmiris. Pakistan maintains that the Maharaja used brute force to suppress the population.[104]

Pakistan claims that Indian forces were in Kashmir before the Instrument of Accession was signed with India, and that therefore Indian troops were in Kashmir in violation of the Standstill Agreement, which was designed to maintain the status quo in Kashmir (although India was not signatory to the Agreement, which was signed between Pakistan and the Hindu ruler of Jammu and Kashmir).[105][106]

From 1990 to 1999, some organisations reported that the Indian Armed Forces, its paramilitary groups, and counter-insurgent militias were responsible for the deaths of 4,501 Kashmiri civilians. During the same period, there were records of 4,242 women between the ages of 7–70 being raped.[107][108] Similar allegations were also made by some human rights organisations.[109]

In short, Pakistan holds that –

  • The popular Kashmiri insurgency demonstrates that the Kashmiri people no longer wish to remain within India. Pakistan suggests that this means that Kashmir either wants to be with Pakistan or independent.[110]
  • According to the two-nation theory, one of the theories that is cited for the partition that created India and Pakistan, Kashmir should have been with Pakistan, because it has a Muslim majority.
  • India has shown disregard for the resolutions of the UN Security Council and the United Nations Commission in India and Pakistan by failing to hold a plebiscite to determine the future allegiance of the state.[111]
  • Pakistan was of the view that the Maharaja of Kashmir had no right to call in the Indian Army, because it held that the Maharaja of Kashmir was not a hereditary ruler and was merely a British appointee, after the British defeated Ranjit Singh who ruled the area before the British conquest.[112]
  • Pakistan has noted the widespread use of extrajudicial killings in Indian-administered Kashmir carried out by Indian security forces while claiming they were caught up in encounters with militants. These encounters are commonplace in Indian-administered Kashmir. The encounters go largely uninvestigated by the authorities, and the perpetrators are spared criminal prosecution.[113][114]
Human rights organisations have strongly condemned Indian troops for widespread rape and murder of innocent civilians while accusing these civilians of being militants.[115][116][117]

  • The Chenab formula was a compromise proposed in the 1960s, in which the Kashmir valley and other Muslim-dominated areas north of the Chenab river would go to Pakistan, and Jammu and other Hindu-dominated regions would go to India.[118]
Former Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf on 16 October 2014 said that Pakistan needs to incite those fighting in Kashmir,[119][120]“We have source (in Kashmir) besides the (Pakistan) army…People in Kashmir are fighting against (India). We just need to incite them,” Musharraf told a TV channel.[119][120]

A survey carried out across both Jammu and Kashmir and Azad Kashmir by London-based thinktank Chatham House, its author claims 'is the first ever of its kind', shows that only 2% of the respondents on the Indian side favour joining Pakistan.[121]

In 2008, the death toll from the last 20 years was estimated by Indian authorities to be over 47,000.[102]
Kashmir conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
We are only willing to discuss Pakistan held Kashmir: Indian minister
You can stay at your home Mr. Minister.
 
Of Course .The topic they demand will be P-O-K .

You can negotiate on that terms if you want otherwise we dont even care about these talks.

Peace is more important to india than Pakistan since they have more seprate moments than anyone can imagin...
indian occupied kashmir I-O-K with 700 thousands army i think we sud dictate.. cuz your 500 billion in your account not gonna be able to save you specially when you have Terrorist Prime Minister Nirander Mody..
anything els ?

Yawns acha . referendum kara lo .:)

in say table per baat nahi hoti Kashmir kay baray mein .. tangain kampati hain baniyay ki .. you are asking Referendrum.. ask them to make bollywood movie on mody .. even in that they will blunder it.
 
Yawns acha . referendum kara lo .:)
Pehle 'Azad' Kashmir se aur GB se bahar niklo. Fir usse hamare neeche lekar ayengey. Fir uske baad sochengey.

Pakistan after the Simla Accord can take a hike.

tangain kampati hain baniyay ki
That shaking baniya sent your beloved army packing in pantslam, gibberfalter, pant-uthri-gil. Ab bas tumhara ghazwa-e-behind is left.
 
Pehle 'Azad' Kashmir se aur GB se bahar niklo. Fir usse hamare neeche lekar ayengey. Fir uske baad sochengey.

Pakistan after the Simla Accord can take a hike.

chalo aisay ker laitay hain .. tum loog himat karo anay ki.. hum welcome kehaingay .. lakin please khashboo lagana na bholna.
 
Indian minister can keep dreaming. Talks are not that important for Pakistan anyways.
 
The last time you welcomed us, you lost East Pakistan.

you talking about Kargil .. last time i checked it was Kargil .. living in wet world ..
there was currpution in coffins you didnt have enough woods to burn...
or jo ghalat chakar diya tha zinda murdar ko.... what you talking you?
 

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