Watch How General Zia ul Haq Fooled America To Make Nuclear Bomb Exclusive Vide

[T-Rex]

Maybe it is just a coincident that pilot of that unfortunate C-130 was also belong to same sect and we also failed to learn lesson from that also

The pilot had nothing to do with it, most probably the generals who wanted to be the next army chief conveyed their feelings to the US and the US envoy sacrificed his life for realising their dream.

 

[BATMAN]

Unfortunately that very sect dominate our media and press and they are highly motivated and guided by a zionist neighbouring regime , they are very good in twisting facts and spreading propaganda and the same sect is behind sabotaging Pak-Saudi relations

such are sick bunch... they are destined to loose becuase they are trying to war game Allah.

Actually Zia stopped Iranian revolution export into Pakistan and remains of that revolution curse Zia for this sin Every other Sin you hear about Zia is just a twisted fact out of hate nothing else

Any one in position of Zia would have done the same.

The pilot had nothing to do with it, most probably the generals who wanted to be the next army chief conveyed their feelings to the US and the US envoy sacrificed his life for realising their dream.

Could be but all generals were killed .... I doubt Mirz Baig was such an ambitious chap.

 

[haviZsultan]

Bhutto failed to have Pakistan integrated under his leadership and in process of politics lost his mind.
He appointed himself Field Martial and became a worst dictator, he lost east Pakistan and was no more legitimate ruler.
He went on to destroy army institution by hiring firing of his choice, as Nawaz Sharif does.
General Zia happened to be the CoAS, rest is history.. .he was sentenced to death by judiciary.



Here comes the sect. of society, i talked about...
I heard you had a great time in Qum?

I agree with your stance on Bhutto though I don't see Zia being the noble man he is made out to be.

Didn't Zia produce the fanatics that are haunting our society today? What was the point in breaking tv's, fighting a pointless war in Afghanistan where the people hate us and give precedence to mullahs and Wahabi school of thought? What happens when there is a difference in beliefs between various sects within sunnism? Zia made Pakista the mess it is today. LEJ was born during his time as was the MQM. Nawaz Sharif was chief minister Punjab during his time and rose from there.

@waz @Manticore is it allowed to insult shia brothers like this? Sectarianism should be kept out.

 

[Azadkashmir]

both bhutto and zia did bad and good things, but zia was a shrewd guy, i bet his soul was scared of him.

 

[BATMAN]

Maybe it is just a coincident that pilot of that unfortunate C-130 was also belong to same sect and we also failed to learn lesson from that

Was he? Can you give me some links to read about that?

When I read some books about proliferation of Pakistan's nuclear technology by Benazir regime, bells start to ring... why would a corrupt person like Benazir, would give out most important state secret for free? How could her husband would not charge his commission!

I agree with your stance on Bhutto though I don't see Zia being the noble man he is made out to be.

Didn't Zia produce the fanatics that are haunting our society today? What was the point in breaking tv's, fighting a pointless war in Afghanistan where the people hate us and give precedence to mullahs and Wahabi school of thought? What happens when there is a difference in beliefs between various sects within sunnism? Zia made Pakista the mess it is today. LEJ was born during his time as was the MQM. Nawaz Sharif was chief minister Punjab during his time and rose from there.

@waz @Manticore is it allowed to insult shia brothers like this? Sectarianism should be kept out.

No Zia did not produced any of the fanatics which are haunting our society... its international phenomenan not limited to Pakistan.
Neither Zia was running Afghan war... as i understand army is an institution and Pakistan army's participation was limited to recieving anti tank missels from US and distributing them to real Afghans.
Rest i don't know about the schools of thought you mention.... neither i'm interested to here your defination about other's beliefs.
LEJ was born doesn't mean he was responsible for it, neither i'm in a position to confirm your allegations.
You have to prove it, don't expect... whatever you enforce upon the public with under laying threats... should be believed.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

There's a reason why certain sect.

No idea about which sect your on about. Do tell please? And Zia was sly if not more so than a fox. No doubt about that but if you think he fooled American's, I am sorry your only fooling yourself into thinking that. The Americans had fair idea of what was going but the had bigger fish to fry - like Soviet Union in Afghanistan - so the in a game of realpolitik chose to ignore it. Soon after the pull out and demise of Soviets from Afghanistan down came Zia's plane and up went sanctions. It was simple self interest at play.

And I credit the nuclear bomb to Bhutto - no doubt about that. I don't like Bhutto for the kowtowing he did to Islamists and in particular the hideous act of declaring Ahmedi non Muslims. And no I am not a Ahmedi but unabashedly secularist.

But as somebody said all leaders have bad and good. You got to recognize what good they did whilst equally condemning what bad they did. This black/white good/bad narrative is rare in real life.

 

[BATMAN]

both bhutto and zia did bad and good things, but zia was a shrewd guy, i bet his soul was scared of him.

Bhutto lost Pakistan and declared him self ruler of Pakistan in illegitimate fashion, all rights were supressed, people were killed extra judicialy.
i wonder what Zia did wrong... would love to hear that too.

 

[singlefighter]

Gen.Zia ul haq was man behind so success stories of the country.when he take over country was facing an almost civil war.when army ,fsf was ordered by prime minister to kill every one who protest against the govt but Zia came and save the country from civil war.his next acheivment was to ensure the nuclear program continuity. And achieved the threshold Dr. Khan had told the so many ti,es that the actual progress starts in Zia's era but with complete silence. He upgrade the over all defence of the country with new procurement. Zia also warns israel over missile threat towards the saudis.he unite the ummmah

 

[BATMAN]

No idea about which sect your on about. Do tell please? And Zia was sly if not more so than a fox. No doubt about that but if you think he fooled American's, I am sorry your only fooling yourself into thinking that. The Americans had fair idea of what was going but the had bigger fish to fry - like Soviet Union in Afghanistan - so the in a game of realpolitik chose to ignore it. Soon after the pull out and demise of Soviets from Afghanistan down came Zia's plane and up went sanctions. It was simple self interest at play.

And I credit the nuclear bomb to Bhutto - no doubt about that. I don't like Bhutto for the kowtowing he did to Islamists and in particular the hideous act of declaring Ahmedi non Muslims. And no I am not a Ahmedi but unabashedly secularist.

But as somebody said all leaders have bad and good. You got to recognize what good they did whilst equally condemning what bad they did. This black/white good/bad narrative is rare in real life.

You can believe any thing... you can credit bomb to bhutto's son in law or even your self.
Can i control you... have fun and please award your self a shield of honor for building bomb.

Gen.Zia ul haq was man behind so success stories of the country.when he take over country was facing an almost civil war.when army ,fsf was ordered by prime minister to kill every one who protest against the govt but Zia came and save the country from civil war.his next acheivment was to ensure the nuclear program continuity. And achieved the threshold Dr. Khan had told the so many ti,es that the actual progress starts in Zia's era but with complete silence. He upgrade the over all defence of the country with new procurement. Zia also warns israel over missile threat towards the saudis.he unite the ummmah

It was Asif Ali Zardari, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Hamid Saeed kasmi... who are actually behind building the bomb.
how dare you give credit to Zia ul Haq.
We have demonized him for 10 long years and you want to undo every thing...
you should be silenced.. one way or another.
IN CASE IF YOU HAVE MISSED ITS RULE NUMBER 666

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@BATMAN Zia took over in July 1977. Watch this documentary from June 1980. Assuming the first thing Zia did when he took over was to go for the Atom Bomb, that makes it exactly 36 months. So you friggin think the "bumb" was built in 36 months by Zia. Have some sense and please stop peddling garbage. I doubt your going to change your mind - your type have their heads firmly stuck inside the sand but please consider the two facts below.

Fact A - Zia launched coup in July 1977 and took over Pakistan.
Fact B - BBC programme Project 706 was aired in June 1980.

And I saw this programme back in 1980 with my dad. The reality and the truth is Bhutto gets the credit 100%. @BATMAN You can say crap as is your want. But produce some proof of your contention. Think again about the two facts I have given. Extrapolate > 36 fu*ckin months?

 

[singlefighter]

Hestart the jihad against Soviets even on that time whole america Europe was fearing of Soviets but he trap the Red Bear in Afghanistan. And u.s and E.U and saudi funds came after the 1982 first three years pakistan run this jihad with their own funds. And eventually he got success in each manner where he starts 150 million muslims of central asia and Afghanistan get freedom that was not a small thing if you all brothers mean the war success stories in modern history he came to give respect the ulama and dignities of every sectarian thoughts. He keep normalized in relation with iran aud saudis even tried hard to stop iran iraq war.he did not bring drugs and klashankov in country but after his martyrdom the rest of elite was not able to control the CIA network of drugs and indian RAW terror network who funded altaf and other for terrorism. He give back the confidence to private sector for investment and industry but sorry to say ishaq khan was not able to handle the great game of central asia to integration of eco countries in a union like EU which was the dream of Zia

 

[Indian Jatt]

Well the struggle to develop nuclear weapons and quality reactors is same for both India and Pakistan, our scientists were killed and even tried to sabotage the process, but thanks to hard work and determination of both the countries... Congratulations the fittest of all have survived...
Now next stage

 

[BATMAN]

Well the struggle to develop nuclear weapons and quality reactors is same for both India and Pakistan, our scientists were killed and even tried to sabotage the process, but thanks to hard work and determination of both the countries... Congratulations the fittest of all have survived...
Now next stage

Not really the subject matter but don't tell me it was Pakistan killing your scientists..!

@BATMAN Zia took over in July 1977. Watch this documentary from June 1980. Assuming the first thing Zia did when he took over was to go for the Atom Bomb, that makes it exactly 36 months. So you friggin think the "bumb" was built in 36 months by Zia. Have some sense and please stop peddling garbage. I doubt your going to change your mind - your type have their heads firmly stuck inside the sand but please consider the two facts below.

Fact A - Zia launched coup in July 1977 and took over Pakistan.
Fact B - BBC programme Project 706 was aired in June 1980.

And I saw this programme back in 1980 with my dad. The reality and the truth is Bhutto gets the credit 100%. @BATMAN You can say crap as is your want. But produce some proof of your contention. Think again about the two facts I have given. Extrapolate > 36 fu*ckin months?

No thanks for the mean intro... i can also tell you are a piece of garbage etc...
I can't believe reason of your mean titles was that i praised Zia ul Haq!!! man your are filled with special matter you may be above the law on this forum but i wish you were face to face with me... i'm sure it will not take much effort to make you change your aopinion about me.
Now go read the book i gave reference below and counter all counts given therein.
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=21098

 

[dadeechi]

Bhutto failed to have Pakistan integrated under his leadership and in process of politics lost his mind.
He appointed himself Field Martial and became a worst dictator, he lost east Pakistan and was no more legitimate ruler.
He went on to destroy army institution by hiring firing of his choice, as Nawaz Sharif does.
General Zia happened to be the CoAS, rest is history.. .he was sentenced to death by judiciary.

The way you control a country is not by one institution but by controlling all the institutions - Military, Political and Judiciary.

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto (ZAB) was too popular with the common people of Pakistan and was called Quaid-i-Awam .

He followed socialist policies and was close to USSR just like Indira Gandhi was in India.

ZAB was instrumental in initiating the Pakistan nuclear weapons program in 1972 when he advised the Chairman of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) Munir Ahmad Khan with a commitment to have the bomb ready by the end of 1976. Later when PAEC was falling behind schedule and having considerable difficulty producing fissile material, ZAB brought in Abdul Qadeer Khan from Europe in 1974.

Through the implementation of "Nationalization and Economic Reforms Order (NERO)", ZAB nationalized all major metal industries, including iron and steel, heavy engineering, heavy electrical, petrochemicals, cement and public utilities.

The Sharif family were financially devastated after the family's steel business was nationalized by ZAB and they went into a alliance with the Military.

Eliminating Bhutto paved the way for Pakistan Military's brain child Nawaz Sharif to takeover the political institution.

There is a reason why Nawaz was left scot-free after the military coup against him in 1999 and why no action would be taken against him by Raheel Sharif in spite of his name popping out in the panama leaks.

 

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Starting from this guy Zia when religion became a matter of state,when quaid -e-azam said

Its amazing how our army denied its own people and snatched the basic right of freedom of democracy from its own people.
Zia was the first guy who Mixed religion and politicos so that ingrained this idea of radical islam because when generations of families had no education and poverty they resorted to only thing they could find
Guns
Then Terrorism became a business of proxy.