Wahhabism & its Connections with Terrorism..!!!

[Hyperion]

Dear spawn of Wahab, the picture was not the point, the message was. I see that it did what it was designed to. Thanks for loosing it.

Btw, I don't care if he looked like Madonna, Miley Cyrus or Justin Bieber. How and why would that make a difference?

Why are you lying liar? Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (ra) died in 1792. There are no photos of him. Photography was not even invented at that time yet.

Completely agree BlackEagle but some individuals like to stir problems up and divide us Sunnis to create fitna. Ignore them. They have already failed big time.

 

[al-Hasani]

First of all I am not a follower of the Sheikh but I do not disagree with his teachings who are in accordance with Islam. I am a Muslim a Sunni Muslim who follows the Shafi'i fiqh to be precise my little Shia sect member.

Also I only disputed you and now you are backtracking because I caught you lying and misinforming the already misinformed public as seen by this thread.

Case closed.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Educate yourself. The first camera photography first appeared in the 1820's....

What was first invented by Thomas Wedgwood in 1790 was not such pictures but a REFLECTED image.

"The first success of reproducing images without a camera occurred when Thomas Wedgwood, from the famous family of potters, obtained copies of paintings on leather using silver salts. Since he had no way of permanently fixing these reproductions (stabilizing the image by washing out the non-exposed silver salts), they would turn completely black in the light and thus had to be kept in a dark room for viewing."

Photography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Certainly there were not ANY single such clear photographies taken in 1790 let alone in Najd or of the sheikh. So all in all that is not him on the picture because there have not been any pictures of him. This is very simple. So the picture circulated here is false and not of him. I do not know the nature of the picture posted here.

Are you serious? I didn't say CAMERA i said photography... it STARTED in 1790 , the term photography is different from Camera... again I'm not claiming who is in that picture, I'm just saying that photography started in 1790
History of photography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hyperion]

Dude, I am not Shia.

First of all I am not a follower of the Sheikh but I do not disagree with his teachings who are in accordance with Islam. I am a Muslim a Sunni Muslim who follows the Shafi'i fiqh to be precise my little Shia sect member.

Also I only disputed you and now you are backtracking because I caught you lying and misinforming the already misinformed public as seen by this thread.

Case closed.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

I do not know if that is him... all I'm saying that photography started in 1790... was just correcting your statement regarding photography was not invented in that time...

The work started in 1790 however photography became available to public in early mid 1800s. The picture posted of arabic man is most likely to be from early 1900s.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Dear spawn of Wahab, the picture was not the point, the message was. I see that it did what it was designed to. Thanks for loosing it.

Btw, I don't care if he looked like Madonna, Miley Cyrus or Justin Bieber. How and why would that make a difference?

Secularism is the biggest export of terrorism which gave birth to soviet communism, Jewish state, New World Order which has taken MILLIONS of life!
Im not a wahhabi but just to piss u off i will say I AM A WAHHABI!!!

Dude, I am not Shia.

Then you must be a ahmadi who has taken asylum in turkey.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Stop hating on Shias. I am not a Shia and believe Wahabism is a cancer. Stop insulting our Shia brothers! You cause divisions in society with this type of thinking. Wahabism is not native to Pakistan. It is native to the house of Saud and Saudia.... let it remain there! Don't impose it on us.

I respect Saudi but I can't respect Wahabism. @Son of Mountains and every Shia is my brother.

I do not HATE Shias,
I do hate the Shias who think only they are followig Islam.

Why do you look at historical events in singularity ?

The movement led by Mohammad bin Abdul Wahab is not a stand alone incident; it was a reaction.
It was a reaction all the types of bidaat that had become part of life in Saudi Arabia.
Bidaat has no place in Islam, and it was rightly removed.

Pakistanis:

Look around you, and analyze carefully. There are 1 thousand and 1 types of Bidaat around us.

Kaachi go Ghazi saab
Multan shared by a group of saints
Lahore to Data saab
Pindi to bari saab
Peshawar to kaka saab

These might have been pious men in their own lives, however every thing attributed to them as of today is anything but Islam.

 

[haviZsultan]

@haviZsultan

I didn’t like to talk about sectarianism. This is you who always malign to naming wahhabi wahhabi. I started this thread just because you & your like minded people again n again alleging to true Muslims. This is a knowledgeable thread. I didn’t blame any sect. in title post. I started this thread on 5th February and later I even didn’t open it again nor provoked to anyone. Today your shia fellow had posted nonsense in it.

Actually you are continuously dividing to Muslims each other. Your all threads are prove it.

Wahabism is a school of thought. It will obviously be challenged. It is childish to assume it will never be challenged at all. You have no objectivity so you do not see the importance of ijtehad and debate about various schools of thought, especially one established by the edge of the sword. This is not our religion. Why are you maligning Islam? Do you believe it is terrorism?

 

[haviZsultan]

Saying this is not acceptable, Saudis represent Islam, we are a religion not a sect, minority categorizing us as a different sect is just a desperate try to show others as fragmented as them.

I thought I'd go crazy reading this post. Epic. You are not conditioned to self-criticism. Its got to do with being in a dictatorship where media is controlled. Wahabism is not a religion but a sect followed by a select population. Also hanafi are larger than you, even Sufis. This criticism is a very valuable part of Islamic thought process you are trying to destroy.

I do not HATE Shias,
I do hate the Shias who think only they are followig Islam.

Why do you look at historical events in singularity ?

The movement led by Mohammad bin Abdul Wahab is not a stand alone incident; it was a reaction.
It was a reaction all the types of bidaat that had become part of life in Saudi Arabia.
Bidaat has no place in Islam, and it was rightly removed.

Pakistanis:

Look around you, and analyze carefully. There are 1 thousand and 1 types of Bidaat around us.

Kaachi go Ghazi saab
Multan shared by a group of saints
Lahore to Data saab
Pindi to bari saab
Peshawar to kaka saab

These might have been pious men in their own lives, however every thing attributed to them as of today is anything but Islam.

You have to stop this hatred of Shias. If someone goes to the mazaar of these people it is his choice-it is not our baap dada ka concern to criticize them. Wahab defiled Prophets tomb too in case you don't remember because he feared people would worship it.

 

[imran_ind]

No sect practices islam well then wahabis who follow the authentic teachings of quran and sunnah thats a fact.unfortunetly the terrorist also belong to the same sect but that does not means wahabism is terrorism .

 

[Alienoz_TR]

We are living in 21th century internet age. After seeing this backward mentality of Wahabism, open minded policies of Shia Islam gained more points in my book.

If this trend continues, i fear Arabs may export this sectarian war to Turkey as well.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Secularism is the biggest export of terrorism which gave birth to soviet communism, Jewish state, New World Order which has taken MILLIONS of life!
Im not a wahhabi but just to piss u off i will say I AM A WAHHABI!!!



Then you must be a ahmadi who has taken asylum in turkey.

it is very unfortunate post
shows a mentality that you remain senseless to the tragedies of other sects , races and religions and you only cry a river for the similar tragedy to your own school or thought or religion.

so when you see someone condemning an attack on minorities then he is either a liberal fascist or belonging to that persecuted minority group. what a shame that people openly declare their hypocrisy that their sympathy is conditioned to who is the victim and who is the culprit.

 

[Patriots]

As an outsider does Shia and wahabism is subset of Islam? If this is the case. There is nothing to argue and confront as the source of ur religion is Islam God who is the source.so why there is so much of intolerance between both of sects?

Please delete my post if this sounds like irrevalent.

Your post is much relevant. The question has raised here that wahhabism is not a such sect of that someone calls himself as wahhabi. Some heretical opponents call to them wahhabi just to denounce & to malign a group of people who practice only Quran & Sunnah.

 

[haviZsultan]

No sect practices islam well then wahabis who follow the authentic teachings of quran and sunnah thats a fact.unfortunetly the terrorist also belong to the same sect but that does not means wahabism is terrorism .

I am glad you are taking some interest in your affairs. Otherwise your meekness combined with fanaticism of RSS has led to the death of many innocents. Afzal guru was hanged today and is believed to be innocent. Years ago a very distant relative went to report a crime-a murder of one of us by Hindutvas and was jailed and threatened not to raise a word-only on that condition he was released. I would advise you to grasp the hand Pakistanis offer you because no one will be left to fight for your rights otherwise-I know-I saw it.

Cheers! I do not care what you call yourself but understand those of us with family there see u as a part of us (Pakistan).

I do not want anything that happened to us Ansaris to happen in Pakistan to Hindus. Wahabis have been involved in heinous crimes. You may have your reasons but I strongly oppose them.

 

[KRAIT]

I am glad you are taking some interest in your affairs. Otherwise your meekness combined with fanaticism of RSS has led to the death of many innocents. Afzal guru was hanged today and is believed to be innocent. Years ago a very distant relative went to report a crime-a murder of one of us by Hindutvas and was jailed and threatened not to raise a word-only on that condition he was released. I would advise you to grasp the hand Pakistanis offer you because no one will be left to fight for your rights otherwise-I know-I saw it.
Cheers! I do not care what you call yourself but understand those of us with family there see u as a part of us (Pakistan)

Again, you brought off topic. And your own personal stories. Stick to the topic. He is talking of Wahabism and you are bringing Kashmir and your vvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery distant relative.