Vikramditya & the IAC Vikrant Threat To Pakistan Waters

[GURU DUTT]

Again in your post emotions can be seen, but what I worry about is that India and Pakistan can go on war for water, and that might be our last war. India for now is not number one direct threat to Pakistan but it is now biggest indirect threat as Indian money is getting ever where to get its interest achieved. Indian is pouring money so systematically in Pakistan that its not possible in these condition to stop it, they are using our media and even Indian money is involved in club cricked level here, this show the Indian intentions to weaken Pakistan from inside and from outside they are creating problems like blocking our water, Indian media with now some Pakistani Media has nearly brain washed our youth, they don't know our heroes but remember Indian actresses and actors.

well bro your greedy army genrals started it way back in 1948 and kept on fingring the wound instead of letting it heal its onli now india has started retaliating your establishment no stone unterned to entice the fire of indo - pak hatred ...guess what enof is enof now its payback time from india buckle up for the bumpy ride ahead .... dont worry we wond put fork in the wheel to unsettle your apple cart .... good luck ........ on the serous note ....all these years pak fauj wanted an imagined enemy and now we will give them just that and dont worry we will do full justice to it ..... good luck bro (we are enemies now remeber)

 

[Basel]

well bro your greedy army genrals started it way back in 1948 and kept on fingring the wound instead of letting it heal its onli now india has started retaliating your establishment no stone unterned to entice the fire of indo - pak hatred ...guess what enof is enof now its payback time from india buckle up for the bumpy ride ahead .... dont worry we wond put fork in the wheel to unsettle your apple cart .... good luck ........ on the serous note ....all these years pak fauj wanted an imagined enemy and now we will give them just that and dont worry we will do full justice to it ..... good luck bro (we are enemies now remeber)

First make your fact right, in 1948 Pakistan Army was not commanded by a Pakistani General and the British general refused to respond to situation, if he had Pakistan would have captured Srinagar at that time. On second part of your post, yes for now India is getting what they want by putting Pakistan in trouble but what Pakistan need is a leader who can bring country on one path like great M.A. Jinnah, and we lack it for now and near future as all are greedy politicians here not true leaders. I some times thank Allah that these politicians are unable to get treasures out which are berried in Pakistani land and US and others are eying them, because if they had got them, they have looted it and finished Pakistan. Still we have hope due to those treasures that true leader will be able to bring us on track, but dont see it in near future. So for now Indians can celebrate as much as they want but times never remains the same.

 

[GURU DUTT]

First make your fact right, in 1948 Pakistan Army was not commanded by a Pakistani General and the British general refused to respond to situation, if he had Pakistan would have captured Srinagar at that time. On second part of your post, yes for now India is getting what they want by putting Pakistan in trouble but what Pakistan need is a leader who can bring country on one path like great M.A. Jinnah, and we lack it for now and near future as all are greedy politicians here not true leaders. I some times thank Allah that these politicians are unable to get treasures out which are berried in Pakistani land and US and others are eying them, because if they had got them, they have looted it and finished Pakistan. Still we have hope due to those treasures that true leader will be able to bring us on track, but dont see it in near future. So for now Indians can celebrate as much as they want but times never remains the same.

well bro unlike feudal & central asian and arab decended mard e momin and mard e haq pakistanies we indians / hindus know verry well how is it to live under slavery for almost 1000 years(800 islamick & 200 british) and thats percieslli why we invested in education and health from day one + abolished feudalism and royalty as son as we got independence and went with Nam instead of jumping into some camp but pakistan did opposite and all these evils you see in pakistan today are 'ande-bachhe' of that fedual-millitarry/beurocratick alliance ,....as hassan nisar said once "pakistan is like a child whos both parents died at its birth and its greedy relatives got hold of it which destroyed the childs past present and future "... but may god bless pakistan and give them courage to brake the shakells of this vicious circle ... good luck

 

[Basel]

well bro unlike feudal & central asian and arab decended mard e momin and mard e haq pakistanies we indians / hindus know verry well how is it to live under slavery for almost 1000 years(800 islamick & 200 british) and thats percieslli why we invested in education and health from day one + abolished feudalism and royalty as son as we got independence and went with Nam instead of jumping into some camp but pakistan did opposite and all these evils you see in pakistan today are 'ande-bachhe' of that fedual-millitarry/beurocratick alliance ,....as hassan nisar said once "pakistan is like a child whos both parents died at its birth and its greedy relatives got hold of it which destroyed the childs past present and future "... but may god bless pakistan and give them courage to brake the shakells of this vicious circle ... good luck

I believe we should have learn from world even we have to from India how to make our home in good condition. Our first five year development plan was taken by South Koreans and where they now by implementing it and evolving it as per their needs and where we are.

on topic:

In coming years IN will be biggest force in Indian Ocean after USN until China decide to come in to play.

 

[GURU DUTT]

I believe we should have learn from world even we have to from India how to make our home in good condition. Our first five year development plan was taken by South Koreans and where they now by implementing it and evolving it as per their needs and where we are.

on topic:

In coming years IN will be biggest force in Indian Ocean after USN until China decide to come in to play.

thats the point i was trying to make bro ... well IN is gearing up for the chinese might and doing it since 1962 and thats pricielli why chinese could not gather courage as they know this time it will be tto messy and way too much gorry than they can ever take

and dont worry for china to come into indian ocean they need first to cross the mallackka straits and guess what we have owr unsinkable carrier there ... aka ... andaman and nicobar islands which is in process of getting ready to give chines armada a welcome they will never forget

 

[Basel]

thats the point i was trying to make bro ... well IN is gearing up for the chinese might and doing it since 1962 and thats pricielli why chinese could not gather courage as they know this time it will be tto messy and way too much gorry than they can ever take
and dont worry for china to come into indian ocean they need first to cross the mallackka straits and guess what we have owr unsinkable carrier there ... aka ... andaman and nicobar islands which is in process of getting ready to give chines armada a welcome they will never forget

Future will be very messy in seas specially in Indian Ocean as many countries will try to get control of it, if u think China will not dare to come to Indian Ocean then its not correct thought, they are preparing for it and IN will be no match for them alone, if they continue the way the are modernizing and expending they will be become 2nd largest and most powerful Navy in the world which will have expeditionary capability similar to USN. There is a reason US is worried about them and encircling them, if they were cowards US would have been not so concerned about them. China have some score to settle with US and they know that. US knows they have challenged them during Korean war when they were nothing compared to US. US have threaten them with nukes many times on many occasions which Chinese have not forgotten.

 

[Basel]

@captain steel: How about Indian installations hit by fast stealth boats of PN in future, which even don't appear on Indian radar, have you ever heard that?

PN already have these and will get its big bro soon:

YONCA-ONUK JV

 

[PoKeMon]

BD Navy is no match for Indian Navy but it will not be as bad as you think.

By the time both your new carriers are ready BD will likely have:

1/ 2-3 Modern submarines.
2/ 5 frigates with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
3/ 6-8 corvettes with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
4/ Possibly 2-3 frigates with 24-32 VLS medium range SAMs - Chinese will have them available for countries like BD at an affordable price(200-250 million each) but not sure yet whether BD will purchase though.


No match for IN but way more powerful than the Indian coast guard!

Any reason you believe good enough to rage an all out war between india and bangladesh?
I dont see any in next 3-4 decades. At max we wont be good friends.

Dont know who made that troll a professional. Knows $hit. Never write like one.

 

[Basel]

@captain steel: its good for us that you underestimate Pakistan, Thank you.

 

[Alpha1]

with more than 8 brahmos, which is enough to completely wipe of karachi from pakistan

Utterly fanboyish exaggerated statement.
Naval blockade which is quite difficult to establish in the first place , will most likely cross economic threshold which will result in nuclear retalliation

 

[Basel]

For sea denial role these will be main weapons in coming future of PN when used along with other assets IN will not be able to block supplies/sea routes.

PLA's Type 032 submarine to test JL2 ICBMs: expert｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com
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Force a complete news magazine on National Security

 

[MilSpec]

@UKBengali- ek baar bay of bengal mein vizag toh aa teri na submarine milegi aur na hi tera frigate........

That cracked me up so so hard....

 

[Abingdonboy]

@Penguin on the AAR front. The IAF will be getting 12 (6+6) A330 MRTTs by ~2017/18 so by 2020-22 should have a fleet of around 18 AARs- still not enough granted. But for sure the IAF will be adding more such assets in the coming years- it has $150 billion USD to be spent over the next 10-15 year burning a hole in its pocket after all.

Additionally the IN is looking to add their own AAR fleet both shore and carried based. They will most likely be getting their own small fleet of A330 MRTTs by 2020.

 

[HariPrasad]

@UKBengali-our INDIAN coast gaurd has more than 192 main surface combatants thats more than our navy and u say thats enough for our coast guard ek baar bay of bengal mein vizag toh aa teri na submarine milegi aur na hi tera frigate........


u know we have such boats dovra class but u know taking care of pakistan navy is in the hands of MOD and indian navy, i cant do anything. if anyone of ur boat touches our shore u know our ships are capable of blasting ur boats out of the water while standing in their ports no big deal.....

this title now sucks close this dicussion friends pakistani's as usual ruined the thread.....

Actually all Pakistani Surface ships are of little use against India. MKI can release a Brahmos 300 KM away and ship will sink in 5 minutes. hypersonic brahmos are coming in next 4 years so as LRCM. I once again say that Except France made subs, No naval vessel posses any threat to IN. In case war breaks out, you will find this PN ships finding safe place to protect themselves.

For sea denial role these will be main weapons in coming future of PN when used along with other assets IN will not be able to block supplies/sea routes.

PLA's Type 032 submarine to test JL2 ICBMs: expert｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com
.
Force a complete news magazine on National Security

JL 2 is a bit away from being operationalized. We will have K4 and K5 by than. They are much potent weapon compare to any JL missile in 6000 KMS of Range.

 

[HariPrasad]

India can't win a war against Pakistan and ppl are not afraid of India too, its our politicians and corrupt system who is destroying us and allowing other to play proxy war here, Pakistan needs one true leader who can take it away from this situation because we are full of resources which many countries dream, we can be next KSA in terms of gas and oil, with gold, silver and copper reserves and so many other things which are buried in land of Pakistan.

Therefore if anyone think it will take decades to get Pakistan's economy on track even if we have situation under control in country and everything in right track, then he is living fool heaven, even in this worst situation US firms are itching to work here in oil and gas exploration.

Oil and Gas exploration by foreign company is worst thing to bone. They will simply take away you resource. If you want a real export, export services. Here you do not offer any Physical resource and earn money by simply offering services which is not an exhaustible resource. So concentrate on building proper man power who can do service Job.