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[Viet]

The truth? Did you youself are assumed to the fact is true fact ? very funny . For example ,i married with a beauty from Vietnam and gave birth to a boy ,then the boy is of Han ethnic groups or 華人(HUA). He has a little of Vietnamese bloods in his blood ,but this would not hinder my boy is of Han Chinese identity. In the same way， my son had a boy later and his son married with a Vietnamese girl as well when his son grown ups ，and so on. Han Chinese bloods would obviously fall if things went on like this, the son of my son was less Han bloods than my son . but that of my son is still Han Chinese.

Philippines president Akilo is of the Han ethnic groups whose father is Han Chinese and his mother is Philippines. Don't you think he is Han Chinese ? How amusing your thinking logic is。The surname LIU is indeed Han Chinese one, but if your father is not Han Chinese then you are not Han Chinese or HUA. And aslo,Korean has the surnames same like Han Chinese as well and it is not amazing.

yes, if the father is chinese, the son is chinese: Patrilineality concept. Not blood, but the Y-DNA, that descendes from father to son. the interesting question is what´s about the daughter, if she becomes non-chinese?

The ruler of NanYue---ZhaoTuo is a officer of Qin and he came from the HeiBei province now.

that does not matter what role he plays in his previous life. the role he plays during his reign matters.
Catherine the Great was the Empress of Imperial Russia. in her previous life, she was a german duchess (Herzogin von Holstein-Gottorf). Following your logic, Imperial Russia belonged to Germany.

 

[welcomeJason]

yes, if the father is chinese, the son is chinese: Patrilineality concept. Not blood, but the Y-DNA, that descendes from father to son. the interesting question is what´s about the daughter, if she becomes non-chinese?


that does not matter what role he plays in his previous life. the role he plays during his reign matters.
Catherine the Great was the Empress of Imperial Russia. in her previous life, she was a german duchess (Herzogin von Holstein-Gottorf). Following your logic, Imperial Russia belonged to Germany.

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Same as the emperor of Japan came from Korea or Eastern China.
The only difference is the majority he ruled has been Hans.

 

[magic-007]

His comments on Chinese forum now? Who did the translation? Do you have link? He got famous! LOL



You have Chinese blood, you are a traitor.

No ,he just has a surname same like Han Chinese. i think of he is not a Han Chinese or HUA because Vietnamese and Korean have a lot of Han Chinese surnames.

 

[Viet]

Same as the emperor of Japan came from Korea or Eastern China.
The only difference is the majority he ruled has been Hans.

that doesn´t matter, either. only this fact counts: nanyue was a politically independent entity, aka nation. similar to this: Taiwan population consists of mostly chinese, and everybody knows: Taiwan is not China (though you may think otherwise). I like this pic from chinesetiger.

 

[magic-007]

yes, if the father is chinese, the son is chinese: Patrilineality concept. Not blood, but the Y-DNA, that descendes from father to son. the interesting question is what´s about the daughter, if she becomes non-chinese?


that does not matter what role he plays in his previous life. the role he plays during his reign matters.
Catherine the Great was the Empress of Imperial Russia. in her previous life, she was a german duchess (Herzogin von Holstein-Gottorf). Following your logic, Imperial Russia belonged to Germany.

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hehe ,the daughter of course belong to Chinese ethnic groups as long as her father is Chinese . As to weather or not her husband is Chinese ,which doese not hinder herself is a Chinese identity. Certaintly , her son is not a Chinese because the son depends on his paternal nationality as you said .

that doesn´t matter, either. only this fact counts: nanyue was a politically independent entity, aka nation. similar to this: Taiwan population consists of mostly chinese, and everybody knows: Taiwan is not China (though you may think otherwise). I like this pic from chinesetiger.
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to be frankly, these vietnamese females are not so beautilfu indeed, and i still like thai girls! hehehe

 

[Viet]

hehe ,the daughter of course belong to Chinese ethnic groups as long as her father is Chinese . As to weather or not her husband is Chinese ,which doese not hinder herself is a Chinese identity. Certaintly , her son is not a Chinese because the son depend on his paternal nationality as you said .

okie, so actually you chinese have an opposite concept in contrast to the jews. the classical concept sees if the mother is jew, so is the son, irrespective of the father. vietnam adopts this "Trọng nam khinh nữ" (prefer son over daughter) from china as well, although we are not as so stringent as chinese.

 

[magic-007]

okie, so actually you chinese have an opposite concept in contrast to the jews. the classical concept sees if the mother is jew, so is the son, irrespective of the father. vietnam adopts this "Trọng nam khinh nữ" (prefer son over daughter) from china as well, although we are not as so stringent as chinese.

A female Chinese had a boy ,then the boy can be only called a one with Chinese bloods but is not Chinese or HUA !
As to you said "Trọng nam khinh nữ" i'm afraid that the whole Asia are this ，and Japan society had the concept as well. but nowaday China ,the concept is going out as time goes on .

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

that does not matter what role he plays in his previous life. the role he plays during his reign matters.
Catherine the Great was the Empress of Imperial Russia. in her previous life, she was a german duchess (Herzogin von Holstein-Gottorf). Following your logic, Imperial Russia belonged to Germany.

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lol, just keep dreaming that Nanyue was Vietnamese.

Do you wanna change your current territorial border by making a such claim for the historical legacy?

that doesn´t matter, either. only this fact counts: nanyue was a politically independent entity, aka nation. similar to this: Taiwan population consists of mostly chinese, and everybody knows: Taiwan is not China (though you may think otherwise). I like this pic from chinesetiger.
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Taiwan has nowhere to go, and after we take it back, we will deport them all.

 

[Fattyacids]

Cantonese have over 60% of Y-DNA from North China, while 80% of their mtDNA is native.

Shanghainese for example, we have less Y-DNA from North China, while our mtDNA is more North Chinese than Cantonese.

lol, the first Nanyue King was a Huaxia man by himself, of course he had much more ties with the Han Dynasty than with Vietnam.

Pardon me, Bro, you shouldn't picked up stuff from gossip forum, there're loads of half-baked crap. Over 70% Cantonese Y chromosome is from Central Plain, North China, Shanghai abt 90%, clustered as Group 1 by Fudan university researchers. The paper is published in Nature, doesn't get any more prestigious.

复旦大学 现代人类学研究中心由文波、李辉 领导的科研组通过对国内17个不同省区的871个抽检者的血样进行基因分析，比较南方和北方人的Y染色体 和线粒体DNA的相同率. 第一组（江苏为代表, 包括上海 ）Y染色体的相同率很高（平均0.905，約九成相等），线粒体DNA的相同率也很高（平均0.785，接近0.80，約八成相等) 与北方汉人差异无几。

It is Guangxi that showed more diversity (.60) Not surprising since it's the province that border vietnam. The irony is, these Viet losers always want Guangdong, but not Guangxi. Because Guangxi is relatively backward, LOL.

Thank for correct me, so 40% Y DNA from paternal bloodline is native, it means 40 million Cantonese is descendants of native Nan Yue people.

Zhao Tuo is Han Chinese, he created Nan Yue Guo, it is nothing wrong here, like Geoge Washington is English man, he created United States, US is becoming independence state from UK.

40% Y doesn't equal to 40% DNA, you need more schooling. Biologically, there's no 100% pure race, any ethnic group with more than 50% dominant is considered pure. East Asians are most homogenous mix.

Vietnamese halogroup cluster more with Khmer people, O2a, same language family too, why don't you claim Cambodian as your own? LOL, it's called Stockholm Syndrome, my friend, after 1000 year of Chinese rule. This is why your family name is Chinese 刘 in spite of your hate towards us, in case you're still clueless about your illness.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Pardon me, Bro, you shouldn't picked up stuff from gossip forum, there're loads of half-baked crap. Over 70% Cantonese Y chromosome is from Central Plain, North China, Shanghai abt 90%, clustered as Group 1 by Fudan university researchers. The paper is published in Nature, doesn't get any more prestigious.

复旦大学 现代人类学研究中心由文波、李辉 领导的科研组通过对国内17个不同省区的871个抽检者的血样进行基因分析，比较南方和北方人的Y染色体 和线粒体DNA的相同率. 第一组（江苏为代表, 包括上海 ）Y染色体的相同率很高（平均0.905，約九成相等），线粒体DNA的相同率也很高（平均0.785，接近0.80，約八成相等) 与北方汉人差异无几。

Since Shanghai was made up by different groups of people, so it depends the sample of the Shanghainese you picked.

Those 苏北裔上海人 are undoubtedly clustered with the northerners, while those 浙江裔上海人 have a lot of southern native DNA.

苏北裔上海人 are mostly O3, while 浙江裔上海人 carry a lot of O1 and O2, but also a considerable amount of O3 as well.

 

[Viet]

lol, just keep dreaming that Nanyue was Vietnamese.

I just state a fact.

Do you wanna change your current territorial border by making a such claim for the historical legacy?

no, just having a humourless discussion about history.

Taiwan has nowhere to go, and after we take it back, we will deport them all.

do you want to risk the good image of china with a invasion of taiwan?
and deporting vietnamese? you are heartless.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I just state a fact.

Too bad, the history doesn't belong to you.

do you want to risk the good image of china with a invasion of taiwan?
and deporting vietnamese? you are heartless.

When it is about the time, then it is about the time.

When we are fully ready, we will be sure to make Taiwan looks 100 times more spectacular than Crimea.

 

[Viet]

Pardon me, Bro, you shouldn't picked up stuff from gossip forum, there're loads of half-baked crap. Over 70% Cantonese Y chromosome is from Central Plain, North China, Shanghai abt 90%, clustered as Group 1 by Fudan university researchers. The paper is published in Nature, doesn't get any more prestigious.

复旦大学 现代人类学研究中心由文波、李辉 领导的科研组通过对国内17个不同省区的871个抽检者的血样进行基因分析，比较南方和北方人的Y染色体 和线粒体DNA的相同率. 第一组（江苏为代表, 包括上海 ）Y染色体的相同率很高（平均0.905，約九成相等），线粒体DNA的相同率也很高（平均0.785，接近0.80，約八成相等) 与北方汉人差异无几。

It is Guangxi that showed more diversity (.60) Not surprising since it's the province that border vietnam. The irony is, these Viet losers always want Guangdong, but not Guangxi. Because Guangxi is relatively backward, LOL.


40% Y doesn't equal to 40% DNA, you need more schooling. Biologically, there's no 100% pure race, any ethnic group with more than 50% dominant is considered pure. East Asians are most homogenous mix.

Vietnamese halogroup cluster more with Khmer people, O2a, same language family too, why don't you claim Cambodian as your own? LOL, it's called Stockholm Syndrome, my friend, after 1000 year of Chinese rule. This is why your family name is Chinese 刘 in spite of your hate towards us, in case you're still clueless about your illness.

human and monkey have 99,99% similar chromosome set. maybe it is time to stop talking about such thing.

Too bad, the history doesn't belong to you.

not to you alone, either. my friend.

When it is about the time, then it is about the time.
When we are fully ready, we will be sure to make Taiwan looks 100 times more spectacular than Crimea.

what fireworks? do you want to bet with me? I say taiwan remains as it is at least for the next 100 years.

 

[Aepsilons]

Guys, let's calm it down. Thanks.

 

[Fattyacids]

Since Shanghai was made up by different groups of people, so it depends the sample of the Shanghainese you picked.

Those 苏北裔上海人 are undoubtedly clustered with the northerners, while those 浙江裔上海人 have a lot of southern native DNA.

苏北裔上海人 are mostly O3, while 浙江裔上海人 carry a lot of O1 and O2, but also a considerable amount of O3 as well.

Bro, I don't think you get the biology of genetics. Even the dude from Henan or Shaanxi 3000 years ago do not have 100% O3. There's no 100% to begin with, anywhere in the world. If anything, take the consolation that East Asians are the most racially homogenous.