Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon

[tomboy666]

We know it, but Taiwan was independence area from ancient time until around 1700 AC and now Taiwan like declare his independence from China they can do what they like, not follow mainland China in this issue.





You forget one significant thing that Tang Dynasty, originally came form Huns, not Huaxia (Shang and Zhou). In fact, Westerner Barbarian ruled Huaxia, 化 xia 之 民 in Tang Dynasty. It's truth of China history.



Good boy, you admitted that you are Dong Yi (eastern barbarian).

well, in our taiwan, there are many who want to be indepant from china, but also have many who like me who consider we are part of china, so taiwan can not do whatever it like, because we elected our pro unification government under president Ma, so stop spread your baseless lies, i know you are a vietnamese nationalist , you want to bash china, but your random lies make entire world laugh

 

[tomboy666]

We know it, but Taiwan was independence area from ancient time until around 1700 AC and now Taiwan like declare his independence from China they can do what they like, not follow mainland China in this issue.



You forget one significant thing that Tang Dynasty, originally came form Huns, not Huaxia (Shang and Zhou). In fact, Westerner Barbarian ruled Huaxia, 化 xia 之 民 in Tang Dynasty. It's truth of China history.



Good boy, you admitted that you are Dong Yi (eastern barbarian).

and you sound so funny, how could tang originated from hun? are you talking about the tang SEDOND EMPEROR （太宗）？ well, first of all, he is not founder of tang dynasty, his father is, and secondly, his mom's one ancestor married a hun and had a hun name from his husband , how come could that be concluded as" tang originated from huns", huns died off 1000 years before tang founded, even there are huns at the time, they were merely mixed descendants of hun with han chinese, let alone even 太宗 has no blood relation with huns or other whatsoever, are you taught that by your vientamese communist govertment??


and lets say this way, even according to the lie made by your vietmanese or other china haters, " the tang originated from huns" but during tang dynasty for about 300 years ,you vienamese were still all the slaves of tang empire, your countries was merely one prefecture of tang empire called jiaozhi on the map, your vietnamese are all pathetic slaves back that time, so what are you excited about whether or not tang is chinese or hun??? to your vietnamese, you are just slaves all the time , no matter who is your master at a time, is not it such clear fact??

 

[Rechoice]

well, you have to be afraid of china, since china has colonized vietnam for more than 1000 years, its possible for another 1000 years, depending on china's will

thats only in your self made up lies, its your chinese master who founded you vietnemaese's first city , and you vietnamese are actually orginated from khmer race, your ancestor were from Cambodia, and then got enslaved by the chinese for 1200 years, so thats why your vietnamese language is the khmer language, but use chinese as your written lanugage for long time, later used the language made by your french master ,which is very pathetic, a nation or a people, have no self language, preobably only you vietnamese

and you sound so funny, how could tang originated from hun? are you talking about the tang SEDOND EMPEROR （太宗）？ well, first of all, he is not founder of tang dynasty, his father is, and secondly, his mom's one ancestor married a hun and had a hun name from his husband , how come could that be concluded as" tang originated from huns", huns died off 1000 years before tang founded, even there are huns at the time, they were merely mixed descendants of hun with han chinese, let alone even 太宗 has no blood relation with huns or other whatsoever, are you taught that by your vientamese communist govertment??


and lets say this way, even according to the lie made by your vietmanese or other china haters, " the tang originated from huns" but during tang dynasty for about 300 years ,you vienamese were still all the slaves of tang empire, your countries was merely one prefecture of tang empire called jiaozhi on the map, your vietnamese are all pathetic slaves back that time, so what are you excited about whether or not tang is chinese or hun??? to your vietnamese, you are just slaves all the time , no matter who is your master at a time, is not it such clear fact??

You troll too much here bro.
I like to reminder you that in past Chinese were ruled by Mongolian, Manchus, Japan and Britaim. Chinese were slaves of them. People in Hongkong suffered it untill 1997. And China to day is divided country, you are half independence citizens in the world. It's shameful for you when you troll here. You are totally uneducated and idiot.

 

[djsjs]

Tang rulers were Xianbei(Mongolian), not Huns.

Huns = Turkic race
Xianbei, Khitan = Mongolic race
Jurchen/Manchus = Tungusic race

surprised, for you did not say that the Tang dynasty originated in Korea

thats only in your self made up lies, its your chinese master who founded you vietnemaese's first city , and you vietnamese are actually orginated from khmer race, your ancestor were from Cambodia, and then got enslaved by the chinese for 1200 years, so thats why your vietnamese language is the khmer language, but use chinese as your written lanugage for long time, later used the language made by your french master ,which is very pathetic, a nation or a people, have no self language, preobably only you vietnamese

truth.but they are not willing accept it.Chinese nobles and rulers take the 汉字 to vietnam society.

no way, a typical brainwashed korean , tang rulers are han chinese, while korean king Wang Geon is a han chinese, whose father is chinese from tang daynasty , its recorded in korean ancient history book 高麗世系, but you korean cant read it since all your histroy book were written in chinese, which is also very pathetic, a nation and a people cant read their own history because their history is written in a foreign language, you korean are same backward as vietnamese, having no your own language ,haha and btw, the huns are the chinese origin, they are decedants of xia people, they are not turkic, the huihu 回护 are the turick people , never the huns

The earliest Korea empire is founded by Chinese.3000 years ago.箕子 ,a Shang dynasy noble moved to korea and his dynasty ruled Korea nearly one thousand years.

 

[terranMarine]

Never tired reusing the same old sentences being slaves of Mongolian or Manchus. That's all you guys can write when there's no more argument left. And what's with the constant "hehe", is that how an intelligent jungle macaca debate? You can laugh at China was ruled by Mongolians, Manchu or Japanese but your bed partners Pinoys were ruled by Spaniards, English, Americans and Japanese and your country was ruled by a couple of countries as well. Never understood the mentality of why you laugh at China but totally ignoring the same fate of Philippines and your country. Laugh if you like, it doesn't change history. Just shows you like to repeat the same stuff all the time when bored.

 

[neehar]

the recent proposal of increasing trade btw india and asean to $100 bill is a result of chinese aggression on its neighbours..

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

the recent proposal of increasing trade btw india and asean to $100 bill is a result of chinese aggression on its neighbours..

You mean about this deal?

ASEAN and India concluded negotiations on free trade agreement

The Association of Southeast Asian Nations has begun its two-day summit in New Delhi. The occasion is to mark the 20th anniversary of the ASEAN -India Dialogue Relations under the theme of ASEAN India Partnership for Peace and Shared Prosperity.


Addressing the heads of States and Governments of the ASEAN, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said, ASEAN is key to peace and progress.

SB SINGH-ASEAN has shown the way for the entire region, building a regional mechanism of cooperation and consensus that has become a great force for peace and prosperity. It has also emerged as the principal architect and driver of economic and security structures and institutions that are emerging in the region

Even without being a full member of ASEAN, India’s importance has been increasing steadily. Now, the two sides decided to elevate their partnership to a strategic level.

With China dominating the region, Vietnam and Philippines have long been contesting Chinese claims over the large areas of South China Sea. The area is believed to be rich in oil and gas. The Chinese have already protested against the presence of Indian exploration companies in the region.The 10-member ASEAN grouping is also going to involve India in their maritime security.

SB- Unless India is that attractive to the Asean countries as China currently is I think their own dependence on China is going to be greater and this is going to be one of the realities as far as the region is concerned.

Trade was also an important part of this summit's agenda. India and Asean have finalised a free-trade agreement in services and investments.

Briefing newsmen, Indian Extenal Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid stated that ASEAN leaders welcomed the successful conclusion of the negotiation of India-ASEAN free Trade Agreement in services and investment.

SB Khurshid:-The signing of these agreements will facilitate further economic integration between ASEAN and Asia which is a very important objective .

India and ASEAN have set a bilateral trade target of US$100 billion by 2015. Two-way trade currently stands at $80 billion.
The two sides also agreed on a vision document laying out a roadmap for future cooperation across all sectors.

Analysts say that as India steps up it's efforts to engage actively in South East Asia it still has a long way to go before it can make a significant presence and will have to tread carefully without upsetting relations with China.

As long as they keep the trade flowing I don' really care who keep trading with whom

 

[Sliver]

economy is not permanent. Its like money. Its not going to be one countries sole authority. Any country with a good governance can be an economic giant. If you threaten a person to not feed him, he will learn to hunt. If he is not strong enough he will die, but if he is, he will live forever independent.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

ASEAN-China free trade agreement will add 4 new members and maybe a 5th

Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:42

By Baron Laudermilk


The ASEAN-China free trade agreement, which is considered to be one of the world’s most successful ones, is going to expand. The ASEAN China free trade agreement will include 4 newer members by 2015. The four new members are Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Myanmar, which should be completed by 2015.

This is the biggest free trade agreement in the world in terms of population, accounting for 1.7 billion consumers with a regional gross domestic product of about $2 trillion. The effectiveness of the ASEAN China trade agreement is clear, the 6 members of ASEAN countries have benefited from the agreement since it came into effect in 2010. Or in other words, the agreement reduces the tariff barrier in each of the countries to almost nothing, which encourages the trade of services and goods. And with the average annual increase of more than 20%, that’s amounting to more than $360b per year and it has proved to be invaluable for the region.

Not only have these four countries decided to join the ASEAN-China group, but Hong Kong is also trying to get involved. ASEAN is supposed to decide on Hong Kong’s request to join the ASEAN-China Free Trade Agreement in November.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen, who currently chairs ASEAN, advised the group’s finance ministers to submit studies to ASEAN leaders in November for their decision. This would include challenges of Hong Kong’s possible accession, legal implications and impacts. Hong Kong would be the fifth region added to the ASEAN-China Free Trade Agreement.

Hong Kong expressed an interest to join the ASEAN-China Free Trade Agreement last year mainly because of China’s slowing economy and its desire to begin building more relationships with Southeast Asia. But some SEAN members including Singapore are calling for Hong Kong and China to make the deal more attractive, such as by lowering tariffs on services and investments on the mainland for ASEAN firms.

It estimated that if Hong Kong joins the FTA, the third largest in the world by gross domestic product (GDP), the major jump in trade volume would boost the GDP of all ASEAN states except Singapore's. Vietnam and Cambodia would benefit most, followed by Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand. Singapore will be negatively affected, said Dr Michael Yeoh, the CEO, Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute, in Malaysia, in a report. He said Hong Kong firms desire to invest in the developing ASEAN economies, for instance, in areas like logistics, and encourage them to set up headquarters in Hong Kong. This poses a serious competition to Singapore, a logistics hub and a venue for regional headquarters.

 

[neehar]

You mean about this deal?


As long as they keep the trade flowing I don' really care who keep trading with whom

agreed..but trade between nations is not just demand and supply..it also a crucial factor in geopolitics and bilateral relations...

 

[Sanchez]

What have Viets got in hands to warn China? Make a rice rain over China or send an army of unresistable young girls?interesting...

 

[Luffy 500]

Trade can always be used as a weapon and bargaining card by the bigger & richer partner on the smaller one. Its a historical fact. This is one the major reasons why, robust trade relations shouldn't be pursued between hostile states which is specially true for smaller nation. Vietnam shouldn't have pursued robust trade with china, if it was fearful of its intentions. Asking it not to use trade as a weapon is utterly naive.

 

[Kolaps]

Businessman is very sensitive to the safety issue.

 

[cnleio]

“Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon” LOL,Why not?
Trade punishment is a effective & merciful weapon, China punish Vietnam by using trade weapon and Vietnam also ban China goods together, let's see which side will fall down firstly.

Let's support Vietnamese never buy any 'made in China', buy more 'made in Japan','made in U.S', 'made in India' or 'made in Vietnam' regardless cost or price Ur money, u select pls, bro.

 

[cnleio]

I suggest Vietnamese must fire ur Foreign Affairs Ministry ASAP, how can ur government let foreigner clearly know what the truth and ur fear ?!!

“Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon” VERY NICE, JUST DO IT QUICKLY AS U SAID.