Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon

[EastSea]

What have Viets got in hands to warn China? Make a rice rain over China or send an army of unresistable young girls?interesting...

We have been did it, to open our trading relation with all countries in the world, don't permit to depend on only one partner. In any case we can flexibly find out counter solution.
It's stranger when China in this year is belong biggest rice importer from Vietnam and puted Vietnam to top rice exporter in the world. China can change to import from Thailand with higher price. China govt can do it and Chinese people (poor people) should pay more money for eat.

“Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon” LOL,Why not?
Trade punishment is a effective & merciful weapon, China punish Vietnam by using trade weapon and Vietnam also ban China goods together, let's see which side will fall down firstly.

Let's support Vietnamese never buy any 'made in China', buy more 'made in Japan','made in U.S', 'made in India' or 'made in Vietnam' regardless cost or price Ur money, u select pls, bro.

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Protection for domestic producers is worldwide known, There is very few number of cars made in EU or US was sold Japan, Korea.'made in China' is famous low quality product.

I suggest Vietnamese must fire ur Foreign Affairs Ministry ASAP, how can ur government let foreigner clearly know what the truth and ur fear ?!!

“Vietnam warns China to not use trade as weapon” VERY NICE, JUST DO IT QUICKLY AS U SAID.

warning is necessary, firstly for public in Vietnam to know what should happen in near future and to do necessary solution to limit loses. He did his job.

 

[EastSea]

agreed..but trade between nations is not just demand and supply..it also a crucial factor in geopolitics and bilateral relations...

You are right. We have been discussing with USA and others partner to sign TPP, Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership Agreement is a free trade agreement among Brunei, Chile, New Zealand, and Singapore. It aims to further liberalize the economies of the Asia-Pacific region.

 

[djsjs]

We have been did it, to open our trading relation with all countries in the world, don't permit to depend on only one partner. In any case we can flexibly find out counter solution.
It's stranger when China in this year is belong biggest rice importer from Vietnam and puted Vietnam to top rice exporter in the world. China can change to import from Thailand with higher price. China govt can do it and Chinese people (poor people) should pay more money for eat.

really?the rice we imported from vietnam is only 0.5% of our total output.and people prefer thailand rice even the price is higher.in fact,foreign rice is much cheaper than domestic.Merchants artificially raise the retail price in order to reap huge profits and meanwhile protect our rice industry.
In fact, our rice is enough for self-sufficiency.we feed pigs with low-quality rice.
of cause rice export is very important for you.you cann't affort losing your biggest consumer.

 

[cnleio]

Protection for domestic producers is worldwide known, There is very few number of cars made in EU or US was sold Japan, Korea.'made in China' is famous low quality product.

Come on,bro. I also know trade protection good for domestic producer development, but we can't deny the truth of price affect product quality. I also bought many 'made in China','made in Japan' or 'made in U.S' goods, high quality goods also mean pay for more money. Yep, some 'made in China' r low quality but the price only 1/5 or 1/10 of other foreign goods, higher price means other good enough 'made in China' like Lenovo, Haier, TCL, Huawei, Asus,Acer etc(80% world electronic products made in China).
All we r customers whereever in China or in Vietnam, clearly know the relationship between price and quality. Some ppl can afford Apple IPHONE5, but most ppl can afford fake China EPHONE

So 'made in China' didn't all mean low quality products, if wanna spend $1 to buy the quality of $10 or more $$, pls tell me where to buy, i get all and sell them in China. It must be the quickest way to get rich

warning is necessary, firstly for public in Vietnam to know what should happen in near future and to do necessary solution to limit loses. He did his job.

They did great job, now all China know the trade weapon.

 

[cnleio]

Relax, dudes. Ur meaningless quarrel will ruin this thread.
Back to the topic, pls...

 

[djsjs]

Relax, dudes. Ur meaningless quarrel will ruin this thread.
Back to the topic, pls...

you've seen it.vietnamnese even don't know human food can feed livestocks.and they naively think their rice is important for us.
i'm sure he does't know that 80% grains are grown for livestocks in US.

 

[EastSea]

troll?which of my words is troll?do you think all other countries are as poor as yours?feeding pigs with rice or other cereals is a common international practice.even the grains we used to brew white spirit are more than you vietnamnese eat.what a frog in well you are.please open your eyes and look at the world.

You can read the report in following, in fact you have been insulted Chinese people who used Vietnam' rice as food.

China may buy 2 mln T of Vietnamese rice, support prices
29/03/2012
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Vietnam’s rice exports to neighbouring China could climb six-fold this year, a Vietnamese industry official was quoted as saying on Thursday, supporting domestic prices during the peak harvest season.
Two million tonnes of rice imports will bring China close to the world’s top buyers, Indonesia and Nigeria, even though some traders were sceptical about a large jump in purchases by the world’s biggest producer and consumer of the staple.
China’s rice imports are set to rise to around 1.5 million to 2 million tonnes, via official and unofficial trade channels, Deputy Chairman Pham Van Bay of the Vietnam Food Association was quoted as saying by the Ho Chi Minh City Law newspaper.
Bay’s forecast, beating an earlier industry projection of about 1 million tonnes, represents at least a fifth of the 7.2 million tonnes Vietnam aims to export this year, a level that could help it overtake Thailand to become the world’s top rice exporter.
Bay declined comment when contacted by Reuters as he was not authorised to speak to foreign media.
Last year, China imported 309,000 tonnes of rice from Vietnam, almost 150 percent more than 124,500 tonnes in 2010, Vietnam Customs data shows.
If China imports 2 million tonnes of rice, it would be the highest since at least 2006.
China has been buying rice from Vietnam and Pakistan in recent months to keep a lid on domestic prices, which have climbed on the back of government support for farmers.
Chinese traders said it was profitable to import rice from Vietnam.
“There are rising imports from Vietnam as domestic prices are expensive and we can not make any money from selling domestic rice,” said one rice trader in Guangxi, near the border with Vietnam.
“There is no shortage of supply, but the government is supporting farmers which is keeping domestic prices high.”
CHINESE BUYING SUPPORTS PRICES
Although ample global supplies are likely to keep the rice market in check, Vietnam’s 5 percent broken rice sold to Chinese firms rose to $420 a tonne last week from $405 in early February, a rice exporter based in the Mekong Delta province of An Giang said.
This week the same variety is being offered at $435-$445 a tonne, on an FOB basis.
Analysts said Chinese customs data has not shown any big rice imports, which could indicate cargoes were being smuggled into the country, while some traders doubt China’s imports will reach 2 million tonnes.
“It is not a situation where China has a rice shortage. God forbid, if that situation arises the market will be on fire as they consume more than 130 million tonnes of rice a year,” said the head of rice business at a global trading company in Singapore.
“China is still selling rice to Japan, which means they have a surplus. We don’t expect such a large increase in imports.”
Indonesia emerged as the world’s biggest rice importer, buying 2.8 million tonnes in 2010/11, followed by Nigeria which imported 2.3 million tonnes, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
It has estimated China’s milled rice production in 2011/12 at 140.5 million tonnes, up from 137 million tonnes a year ago.
Hong Kong and Taiwan have also been looking at Vietnamese rice, which could create “a breakthrough for Vietnamese exporters”, Bay was quoted as saying during a market survey in China.
However, a state rice exporter in Ho Chi Minh City said: “There is strong demand from China for (Vietnamese) rice, but if China doesn’t change its method of delivery, there may be no breakthrough.”
She said China preferred to use shipping containers for rice loading to ease inland distribution, which had led to a shortage of containers.
“Now we can only load for old contracts. If China does not change, we are not sure if there will be a surge in shipments,” she said.
Source: Sharenet
http://www.angimex.com.vn/en/2012/03/china-may-buy-2-mln-t-of-vietnamese-rice-support-prices/

 

[cnleio]

you've seen it.vietnamnese even don't know human food can feed livestocks.and they naively think their rice is important for us.
i'm sure he does't know that 80% grains are grown for livestocks in US.

Well, it's not said Vietnamese rice more important than China rice. The main reason is cheaper price, and Chinese sellers to earn money by selling Vietnamese rice here. So back to above words, as the same quality as domestic products the cheaper Vietnamese rice could crush domestic China rice.

But the truth is not only Vietnam, we also imported rice from other Asian-countries. Export rice to China means nothing, the Chinese customers have many choice, most Asian-countries export rice to foreign.

Chinese traders said it was profitable to import rice from Vietnam.
“There are rising imports from Vietnam as domestic prices are expensive and we can not make any money from selling domestic rice,” said one rice trader in Guangxi, near the border with Vietnam.

Here in China SuperMarket(like Wal-Mart, Carrefour, RT-Mart. other China market), 1st expensive rice is the Thai rice(￥50 per bag), then many kinds of China rice(due to where rice grew in China provinces), rare to see Vietnam rice in Market. I guess these badass Chinese sellers put Vietnamese rice into domestic rice to sell higher price.

 

[EastSea]

Well, it's not said Vietnamese rice more important than China rice. The main reason is cheaper price, and Chinese sellers to earn money by selling Vietnamese rice here. So back to above words, as the same quality as domestic products the cheaper Vietnamese rice could crush domestic China rice.

But the truth is not only Vietnam, we also imported rice from other Asian-countries. Export rice to China means nothing, the Chinese customers have many choice, most Asian-countries export rice to foreign.



Here in China SuperMarket(like Wal-Mart, Carrefour, RT-Mart. other China market), 1st expensive rice is the Thai rice(￥50 per bag), then many kinds of China rice(due to where rice grew in China provinces), rare to see Vietnam rice in Market. I guess these badass Chinese sellers put Vietnamese rice into domestic rice to sell higher price.

You guess, but i think it's correct.