Vietnam to Get Sub Fleet in 6 Years: State Media

[ChineseTiger1986]

AH, I found out now, so your sub is superior in Radiation leakage

Only idiots would believe that kind of fabricated fake rumor.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The kilo is 70-74 meters long with displacement up to 3,900 tons with a 7 bladed propeller with capability of firing the 200 km range subsonic klub missiles.

The Yuan is 75 meters long with displacement up to 4,200 tons with a 7 bladed propeller equiped with AIP. It can fire the 200 Km range supersonic C-803 missiles

The Qing is 95 meters long with displacement up to 5,500 tons with a pump jet and AIP with capability of firing the 1,500 Km supersonic CJ 10K cruise missile

Both the Yuan and Qing class are significantly more advanced than the kilo with both having AIP, Long range, and ultra long range missiles, among many other things.

We don't need to compare the statistic of our weapons with those of the purchased weapons with Vietnam. They have nothing, they don't have the industry to manufacture or even to keep the maintenance.

Even Russia leases them the nuke sub, it isn't going to change anything.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

We don't need to compare the statistic of our weapons with those of the purchased weapons with Vietnam. They have nothing, they don't have the industry to manufacture or even to keep the maintenance.

Even Russia leases the nuke sub, it isn't going to change anything.

I always use technical facts to argue. It means they have nothing to argue with unless they are truly stupid. Try it sometimes.

 

[NiceGuy]

We don't need to compare the statistic of our weapons with those of the purchased weapons with Vietnam. They have nothing, they don't have the industry to manufacture or even to keep the maintenance.

Even Russia leases them the nuke sub, it isn't going to change anything.

How about speed and noise bro ??and if they don't fit with tropical terrain, they will be useless in SCS(East sea)

Btw: we use our sub to destroy your warship, not fighting with your sub

Hehe, we can manufacture Yakhont, Club-D , Molniya bro, don't underestimate your small brother

 

[tanlixiang28776]

How about speed and noise bro ??and if they don't fit with tropical terrain, they will be useless in SCS(East sea)

Btw: we use our sub to destroy your warship, not fighting with your sub

AIP and then pumpjet technology in the Yuan and the Qing would make them far quieter than the Kilo.

LOL. tropical terrain in the sea. where do you come up with this stuff?

Then your SSKs would be fighting SSNs that shadow PLAN ships in the open sea.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

AIP and then pumpjet technology in the Yuan and the Qing would make them far quieter than the Kilo.

LOL. tropical terrain in the sea. where do you come up with this stuff?

Then your SSKs would be fighting SSNs that shadow PLAN ships in the open sea.

Well, they can fight the guerrilla warfare in the open sea by digging up a tunnel in the deep ocean.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Well, they can fight the guerrilla warfare in the open sea by digging up a tunnel in the deep ocean.

Guerrilla warfare relies on stealth and surprise. Something the Vietnamese Kilos would not have facing Yuans, and Qings.

 

[NiceGuy]

AIP and then pumpjet technology in the Yuan and the Qing would make them far quieter than the Kilo.

LOL. tropical terrain in the sea. where do you come up with this stuff?

Then your SSKs would be fighting SSNs that shadow PLAN ships in the open sea.

Guerrilla warfare relies on stealth and surprise. Something the Vietnamese Kilos would not have facing Yuans, and Qings.

Quieter ??who prove that bro ??

Hehe, we can use Air ambush to shoot down F-4, B-52, who knows we can have Sea ambush tactic or not

btw: our sub can fire like a suicide ships also, may be they will have some advantage on that

 

[razgriz19]

How about speed and noise bro ??and if they don't fit with tropical terrain, they will be useless in SCS(East sea)

Btw: we use our sub to destroy your warship, not fighting with your sub

Hehe, we can manufacture Yakhont, Club-D , Molniya bro, don't underestimate your small brother

AIP also reduce noise, and that Kilo does not have.
and dude incase of war or any conflict, the first thing PLAN would do is to take out VN sub fleet! meaning u will be facing chinese subs first!

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Quieter ??who prove that bro ??

Hehe, we can use Air ambush to shoot down F-4, B-52, who knows we can have Sea ambush tactic or not

btw: our sub can fire like a suicide ships also, may be they will have some advantage on that

1. Technologies like AIP, and Pumpjets are known design elements in making a quieter sub. Something the Kilo lacks and the Yuan and Qing have.

2. Ambush requires foreknowledge of the ememies movement, a luxury Vietnamese Kilos will not have when facing stealthier subs.

3. Good luck ramming a sub you cannot detect with a 25 knot submarine and avoiding >65 knot torpedos

 

[NiceGuy]

1. Technologies like AIP, and Pumpjets are known design elements in making a quieter sub. Something the Kilo lacks and the Yuan and Qing have.

2. Ambush requires foreknowledge of the ememies movement, a luxury Vietnamese Kilos will not have when facing stealthier subs.

3. Good luck ramming a sub you cannot detect with a 25 knot submarine and avoiding >65 knot torpedos

1. Oki, we've just modernized our Navy , so we temprary have some Kilo first, who knows what will we have in the future ??

2.our Kilos will not ambush your Qing, or Yuan, they will ambush your warship

3.Hehe, our Gepard have Sub detector Helicopter, she will help us to find Mr. Qing and Yuan

AIP also reduce noise, and that Kilo does not have.
and dude incase of war or any conflict, the first thing PLAN would do is to take out VN sub fleet! meaning u will be facing chinese subs first!

So, we will hide them in secret base till our Gepard destroy all Mr. Qing and

1. Technologies like AIP, and Pumpjets are known design elements in making a quieter sub. Something the Kilo lacks and the Yuan and Qing have.

2. Ambush requires foreknowledge of the ememies movement, a luxury Vietnamese Kilos will not have when facing stealthier subs.

3. Good luck ramming a sub you cannot detect with a 25 knot submarine and avoiding >65 knot torpedos

1. Oki, we've just modernized our Navy , so we temprary have some Kilo first, who knows what will we have in the future ??

2.our Kilos will not ambush your Qing, or Yuan, they will ambush your warship

3.Hehe, our Gepard have Sub detect Helicopter, she will help us to find Mr. Qing and Yuan

AIP also reduce noise, and that Kilo does not have.
and dude incase of war or any conflict, the first thing PLAN would do is to take out VN sub fleet! meaning u will be facing chinese subs first!

So, we will hide them in secret base till our Gepard destroy all Mr. Mr. Qing and Mr.Yuan

 

[tanlixiang28776]

1. Oki, we've just modernized our Navy , so we temprary have some Kilo first, who knows what will we have in the future ??

2.our Kilos will not ambush your Qing, or Yuan, they will ambush your warship

3.Hehe, our Gepard have Sub detect Helicopter, she will help us to find Mr. Qing and Yuan

So, we will hide them in secret base till our Gepard destroy all Mr. Mr. Qing and Mr.Yuan

1. The kilos you are getting in 6 years are already inferior to the Yuans China introduced 7 years ago. Going by precedence China will have another new class superior to the Qing class in 7 years when Vietnam is taking delivery of its 2nd or 3rd Kilo. By that time Vietnam will have a sub 2 full generations behind what China has.

2. Chinese warships have full compliments of nose, and Towed array sonar along with KA 31, and Z 8 ASW helicopters. All of them are capable of launching rocket propelled torpedos up to 50 kms away.They are also escorted by SSKs, and SSNs. A few Vietnamese kilos without any surface support would be massacred.

3. The Gepards you have do not have a helicopter bay. Its 1,500 ton displacement also means it carries a tiny sonar nose. It also does not have a towed array radar. A song class SSK of the PLA popped up next to a 100,000 ton aircraft carrier with dozens of AEW helicopters with Burke class destroyers and you expect a corvette to do what they couldn't with a sub thats 2 generations ahead? Your wet dreams are astounding.

4. A Gepard class with its tiny sonar and lack of helicpoter AEW would have a hard time fighting a ming class SSK

 

[Zshu]

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[ChineseTiger1986]

A few of China ASW capabilities

Bro, your pics are not working, and you have to re-upload it.

 

[Zshu]

working on it