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Vietnam has very limited defence industrial capabilities in the air domain, largely restricted to the reverse-engineering of aircraft spares. Beyond this, Vietnam has been linked to technology transfer/offset deals with Russia over indigenous involvement in the production of 9M39 Igla (SA-18 'Grouse') surface-to-air missiles and SS-N-26 Yakhont anti-ship missiles.
Congrats on the C295. But why aren't there any winglet installed? they are cheap and simple but increases fuel efficiency and range.
BTW, I've found this little paragraph in a new Jane's article:
Is this true? or is the article mistaken the Uran program for the Yakhont?
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There were rumors that Vietnam asked for a joint project for the Yakhont, but I had not seen concrete evidence so far; the thing is, VN is using very few of those so far to justify local production I think, but I don't know what plans they might have.
Congrats on the C295. But why aren't there any winglet installed? they are cheap and simple but increases fuel efficiency and range.
BTW, I've found this little paragraph in a new Jane's article:
Is this true? or is the article mistaken the Uran program for the Yakhont?
The rumours has reached Jane's, or maybe they've got the Uran and Yakhont mixed up.
I suspect that since there was no movement with the Brahmos, VN was pushing for an arrangement for the Yakhont similar to what Russia is doing with India where in addition to self producing the missile in Vietnam, the missile will also be improved and customized in a fashion somewhat similar to Brahmos. As I remember, the Russians were either moving very slowly on that project or stalling. That's all the info I've seen.
Anybody else have some more info? @Soryu @BoQ77 @Viet
I think Jane's will not make a mistake like that, but could be.
don´t know, maybe the parts come later. or the winglets come from our factories.Congrats on the C295. But why aren't there any winglet installed? they are cheap and simple but increases fuel efficiency and range.
it is known that the army negotiates for technology transfer of yakhont since years, with unknown outcome. well, that is nice, if the russians finally agree.BTW, I've found this little paragraph in a new Jane's article:
Is this true? or is the article mistaken the Uran program for the Yakhont?
Kommersant newspaper says either november or december this year. seem we have to wait a bit longer.Does anybody know what happened to the first batch of 4 SU-30MK2 that were supposed to be delivered before the end of the year? Delayed?
If it is true, then it will be for extending the range. The domestic Onyx version of the Yakhont is already well over 300KM. But since the Uran program has already moved ahead, it will be strange to run another missile program.
Yea, Jane's is usually more accurate than say SIPRI. Jane's sometime use insiders info too. SIPRI policy is to only use open access info that are readily available to the public, and you know how reliable those open access info are sometime.
So I'm quite puzzle about this info from Jane's.
a hypothetical question: when will we be capable to operate aircraft carrier?
Bao giờ Việt Nam có tàu sân bay? | Thủ Tướng Nguyễn Tấn Dũng
I suspect that since there was no movement with the Brahmos, VN was pushing for an arrangement for the Yakhont similar to what Russia is doing with India where in addition to self producing the missile in Vietnam, the missile will also be improved and customized in a fashion somewhat similar to Brahmos. As I remember, the Russians were either moving very slowly on that project or stalling. That's all the info I've seen.
Anybody else have some more info? @Soryu @BoQ77 @Viet
I think Jane's will not make a mistake like that, but could be.
YES, you answered my question. we should think of the long term. for a blue water navy, we will need 1-2 small to medium size aircraft carrier and a fleet of destroyers (6) for the south china sea and western pacific. wow, I like the toys from Spain. Looks fantastic. EXACTLY what we need. Seems your people can build great ships.You only mean to operate, not to afford, and you are assuming that there is a budget to operate and maintain the carrier right?
What type of carrier? Small? This is an Spanish carrier and amphibious assault, it operates 24 helos and Harriers (F-35 later), Spain has 1 and they sold 2 to Australia and 1 to Turkey. This is not too expensive, less than 1 billion, plus aircraft, very reasonable, about $100 million a year to operate and maintain (in Spain), 27,000 tons, 230 meters long.
The KA-28 ASW helicopter is 12-14 million. The carrier can be used as a ASW platform plus amphibious assault (it has a well deck inside for landing boats) as well as helicopter assault (good to storm islands in SCS). For amphibious assault it carries 913 soldiers and 46 tanks (Leopard 2), not bad at all.
VN is already buying from Spain, so no problem to buy it, its 100% made in Spain, so there is no issues.
This carrier at 1 billion (maybe less) and 24 KA-28's would be about $1.3 billion. Its affordable for Vietnam if they want it, but it would need AEGIS type destroyers to protect it.
By the way, did you know that Spain makes the cheapest AEGIS destroyer anywhere? 1.1 billion, half the price of a Burke.
Carriers bigger than this it gets seriously expensive, the Gerald Ford is 12 billion plus billions for the aircraft and super expensive to operate and maintain.
Did I answer your questions?
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Here you see it with 4 Spanish made AEGIS destroyers. Australia also bought 3 of those AEGIS destroyers, they call them the Hobart class, in Spain is the F-100 class.
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YES, you answered my question. we should think of the long term. for a blue water navy, we will need 1-2 small to medium size aircraft carrier and a fleet of destroyers (6) for the south china sea and western pacific. wow, I like the toys from Spain. Looks fantastic. EXACTLY what we need. Seems your people can build great ships.
¡Viva España!