Vietnam celebrate the overall assembly the 6th domestic Molniya missile boat

[sword1947]

very realistic: there is a section in the novel telling the battle in the spratlys between vietnamese and chinese warships.

a vietnamese task group consisting of gepards, molniyas and transporter ships carrying supersonic antiship missile yahkonts launch a surprise attack on chinese landing task group, consisting of destroyers, frigates, troop transporters. very ugly outcome after the exchange of fire. both sides suffer heftig casualties. with chinese lost more in the battle.


I don´t see your country flag. Not sure what islands I steal from you. are you from the bermudas?

When we take them back, you will see it. all Nansha islands. I know you come from tropic forest, that is enough.

 

[William Hung]

052D air defence is quite weak actually:

-Can only intercept fighter jet upto 150km.
-Can only intercept AshM upto 70km, if the missile is sea skimming, then the interception range is shorter!

- Su-30MK2 can track a big ship like 052D from over 150km away when flying high.
- The Su-30MK2 can guide missiles to the target from over 150KM away.
- When missiles like the KH-35 approaches near 60km of the target, it switches it's active radar on to home into the target.

-This means the Su-30MK2 and Molniya has a safe standoff range to fire their missiles.
- With its air search and targeting radar off (it can use Su-30 radar), the small Molniya is nearly invisible from 052D's radar when >130KM away.
-If fired in a salvo of +16 (or 32) sea-skimming missiles, the 052D will have a very hard time.

The only defence against Su-30MK2 and Molniya are fighters, not the 052D.

But the Spratlys are far away from Chinese airbases. And the SCS is huge, it will be very expensive and hard work for PLAAF to give full air coverage 24/7 over the Spratlys area.

But China can use their ballistic missiles to take out the Viet airbases and naval ports.

So how VN gonna use their Su-30MK2 and Molniya then?

 

[Echo_419]

@Hu Songshan you might wanna look over this thread I think a few of your countrymen have been going off topic and even trolling.

LOL you seem so surprised

 

[C130]

LOL you seem so surprised

nah just @Hu Songshan has banned me twice for going off-topic or trolling in Chinese threads.

I doubt he'll do anything.

 

[Viet]

When we take them back, you will see it. all Nansha islands. I know you come from tropic forest, that is enough.

I know you will lick my boot, that is enough.

052D air defence is quite weak actually:

-Can only intercept fighter jet upto 150km.
-Can only intercept AshM upto 70km, if the missile is sea skimming, then the interception range is shorter!

- Su-30MK2 can track a big ship like 052D from over 150km away when flying high.
- The Su-30MK2 can guide missiles to the target from over 150KM away.
- When missiles like the KH-35 approaches near 60km of the target, it switches it's active radar on to home into the target.

-This means the Su-30MK2 and Molniya has a safe standoff range to fire their missiles.
- With its air search and targeting radar off (it can use Su-30 radar), the small Molniya is nearly invisible from 052D's radar when >130KM away.
-If fired in a salvo of +16 (or 32) sea-skimming missiles, the 052D will have a very hard time.

The only defence against Su-30MK2 and Molniya are fighters, not the 052D.

But the Spratlys are far away from Chinese airbases. And the SCS is huge, it will be very expensive and hard work for PLAAF to give full air coverage 24/7 over the Spratlys area.

But China can use their ballistic missiles to take out the Viet airbases and naval ports.

So how VN gonna use their Su-30MK2 and Molniya then?

nah....we will sit idle and enjoy chinese missiles coming, what else?

 

[William Hung]

nah....we will sit idle and enjoy chinese missiles coming, what else?

It's a serious question. The S-300 and Buk-M2 only has a limited capability against TBM (terminal phase interception at short range). So how would VN deal with Chinese BM?

 

[Carlosa]

*unfolds beach chair, sits down and observes*

I'm seating on the beach this time, it takes too much patience and time to talk with these kids that don't understand how things work and will only accept what they want to hear.

Oh the beach and the water is so nice here ..............

 

[Viet]

It's a serious question. The S-300 and Buk-M2 only has a limited capability against TBM (terminal phase interception at short range). So how would VN deal with Chinese BM?

well, that is all what we have: ABM system with s-300 and soon s-400. but you know I am a fan of aegis destroyers for arial defence.

 

[Carlosa]

So what happens in the book? You have me curious now...

Is that book available as ebook? Can someone share it?

Barak-1 upgrade for the Molniya? did you steal this idea from me or is this a real plan?

VN MOD has been reading your posts and got your idea mate, you should ask for some kind of copyright fees or creative thinking fees, ha ha...

Self delusion. China can make everything and we even need raw material more than you. Its not shame to import Chinese goods becos the good value for money. Vietnamese loves Chinese good.
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Wow, this is new to me, I live in VN but I never seen a viet that likes chinese merchandise, they usually ask where is made from and if the answer is china, the customer walks away.

It's a serious question. The S-300 and Buk-M2 only has a limited capability against TBM (terminal phase interception at short range). So how would VN deal with Chinese BM?

All that can be done at the moment is to use S-300 / 400 for terminal phase interception and at the same time disperse the assets to secondary locations.

 

[BoQ77]

Barak-1 upgrade for the Molniya? did you steal this idea from me or is this a real plan?

AS you know, Vietnam buy a lot from Israel.
EXTRA, UAV, Galil ACE rifle, Elta radars ...

 

[Carlosa]

You can create whatever lies you want but data dont lies. Epic fail.

China remains Vietnam’s largest import market: data

Did I say anything about the data? You said VN people loves chinese merchandise, I said not true and that's a fact. Usually merchants hide the fact that is from china, they say Taiwan, etc.

In fact, nobody likes the made in china label, whether USA, Europe, etc, same thing.

AS you know, Vietnam buy a lot from Israel.
EXTRA, UAV, Galil ACE rifle, Elta radars ...

@Black Flag BoQ77 knows what's going on, but good luck getting him to reveal something that he knows that he is not suppose to reveal, maybe at a coffee shop in a remote location...... ha ha

 

[BoQ77]

You can create whatever lies you want but data dont lies. Epic fail.

China remains Vietnam’s largest import market: data

@Carlosa said the truth. The traders could choose Made in China, because they make them rich, but consumers would reject Made in China because of the bad reputation of toxic, hazardous ... especially food, fruit and drink

 

[Beast]

052D air defence is quite weak actually:

-Can only intercept fighter jet upto 150km.

Interception range is 221km, latest HQ-9

- Su-30MK2 can track a big ship like 052D from over 150km away when flying high.
- The Su-30MK2 can guide missiles to the target from over 150KM away.
- When missiles like the KH-35 approaches near 60km of the target, it switches it's active radar on to home into the target.

-This means the Su-30MK2 and Molniya has a safe standoff range to fire their missiles.
- With its air search and targeting radar off (it can use Su-30 radar), the small Molniya is nearly invisible from 052D's radar when >130KM away.
-If fired in a salvo of +16 (or 32) sea-skimming missiles, the 052D will have a very hard time.

Truth but provided PLANAF dont send any fighter to intercept Vietnams fighter plane. We have AWACS to keep large area coverage 24 hrs

Then we have tanker to keep our fighter enough legged.

But the Spratlys are far away from Chinese airbases. And the SCS is huge, it will be very expensive and hard work for PLAAF to give full air coverage 24/7 over the Spratlys area.

Vietnam do not possess stealth missile boat. Those missile boat even at 400-500km away will still be detected. Our MPA and drone will be deploy 24hrs to iden those suspected ships.

Once those ships are detected, no way they can get near our CV-16 without eating YJ-18 ASM or face J-15 wrath launch from carriers. Those SU-30MKK are huge fighter and no stealth features. VPAF Su-30MKK detection will be easy meat for our AWACS.

 

[Carlosa]

@Carlosa said the truth. The traders could choose Made in China, because they make them rich, but consumers would reject Made in China because of the bad reputation of toxic, hazardous ... especially food, fruit and drink

Exactly, people buy made in china things only because of low price or because they don't really know that is made in China. Same thing in the whole world. Nobody likes anything made in China, PERIOD.

 

[Carlosa]

You failed to understand AWACS and drone combo. I do not wish to continue such senseless arguement if you wish to dig your head in to hide from truth like ostrich.

No, I understand it very well, but that only goes so far, what makes you think that they can just fly everywhere and not get shutdown? AWACS is better but it can't get too close for optimal detection range and anyway, in bad weather its detection of a small ship like that wont be more than 150 km, 200 max.