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It's a fact that the Poles have been involved in NATO wars in the middle east, and why wouldn't they, considering that they are a part of the organization.

What exactly is it that their government has been saying that can dispute well documented facts such as their participation in NATO conflicts in the middle east ?
By comparison, their involvement it low. According to their own government statement, they have not been targeted (see earlier post of mine, with refenence link). A variety of internationally reputable sources supports that. No matter how much you jump up and down.
 
Hahaha. .... you know nothing about my future. Or do you claim you can predict the/my future?


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....



That's not an ideology. An ideology is a collection of ideas or beliefs shared by a group of people. It may be a connected set of ideas, or a style of thought, or a world-view. Typically, each (political) ideology contains certain ideas on what it considers to be the best form of government (e.g. democracy, theocracy, etc.), and the best economic system (e.g. capitalism, socialism, etc.).

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It is an ideology. I believe in the worth of land. I have no intention to conquer or rule over foreign lands. I see little to no values in foreigners. Mussolini believed in colonialism. A concept i see as wrong.

Conquerors often make the mistake that they want rule the people of the land they conquered.

By comparison, their involvement it low. According to their own government statement, they have not been targeted (see earlier post of mine, with refenence link). A variety of internationally reputable sources supports that. No matter how much you jump up and down.

Having no muslim population helps as well.
 
Having no muslim population helps as well.
AS IF:
  • your remark has any relevance to the discussion between myself and T-72M1
  • having no muslim population somehow precludes the occurrance of terrorism in a society
  • there is any real evidence even of a CORRELATION between the two (let alone CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP), wildly assuming you know the difference.
Go on now, don't hang around indoors, go live your wonderfull life.
 
By comparison, their involvement it low. According to their own government statement, they have not been targeted (see earlier post of mine, with refenence link). A variety of internationally reputable sources supports that. No matter how much you jump up and down.
eh, I'm not jumping, wtf does that even mean ?

Here are the facts, let me run them by you (again).

Everyone is a target for the jihadis, this is truer for countries (such as Poland) that have directly participated in wars in the middle east.

Yet there have been zero jihad attacks in Poland because they won't allow islamic migration the way next door Germany has.

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99 other problems but jihad aint one of them, good job Poland.
 
AS IF:
  • your remark has any relevance to the discussion between myself and T-72M1
  • having no muslim population somehow precludes the occurrance of terrorism in a society
  • there is any real evidence even of a CORRELATION between the two (let alone CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP), wildly assuming you know the difference.
Go on now, don't hang around indoors, go live your wonderfull life.

Im not indoors amigo. Im doing cardio right now. Maybe you are indoors...like always

That said, no muslims means no islamic terrorism.
 
Rest in Peace, I was in Barcelona just two weeks ago and stayed in Tarragona for three nights. The people were very friendly. I do think though that this issue [Muslim jihadism] is being over blown. It is a simply best handled by police and inteligence services. Western Europe is now safer in historical terms from terrorism than it has been in the past.

However having driven through most of Western Europe last month I have had to revisit my thoughts about the migrants. I think that is the real problem that needs resolving and threatens the future stability of the region. I think the elites need to think of invading Libya and integrating all of North Africa into European associate block status as a first initiative to resolve the looming problem.

@Penguin Your thoughts?
 
eh, I'm not jumping, wtf does that even mean ?

Here are the facts, let me run them by you (again).

Everyone is a target for the jihadis, this is truer for countries (such as Poland) that have directly participated in wars in the middle east.

Yet there have been zero jihad attacks in Poland because they won't allow islamic migration the way next door Germany has.

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99 other problems but jihad aint one of them, good job Poland.

The map is terribly misleading.


There have been terror related incidents and attacks in Poland too. And most of the dots in the map represent non-islamic related attacks. Terrorism isn't unknown by Europeans nor a new concept.

Look at the IRA in Britain and NI,ETA in Spain or even the FLNC in Corsica. And terror attacks done by far left or far right groups.

46 years of terrorist attacks in Europe, visualized

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/a-history-of-terrorism-in-europe/

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Poland being touted as a star? Yeh of course. PDF needs to attract more cerebral power honestly. Certain problems or hurdles you face are consequence of your history or location. History/location can bequeath you benefits and problems. Poland has been on the back side of history. Result has been it has been used as footbal by it's neighbours. It has been of no consequence in history. That is a good thing and a bad thing. UK and France on the other hand have been 'movers and shakers' in history. With that came success that took them on a trajectory to dominating the world but with that came the legacy of those times. So to compare Poland with other countries is ridicalous. The Poles are not movers or shakers. They survive by leeching off the West. And the West has it hands in evey corner of the earth to maintain economic and strategic dominance - something that Eastern Europe lives off. In short the West does the dirty work and the east doles off it.

But the real issue is migrantion not jihadism - which is being overblown by some quarters. I think the far right is also guilty of this. While jihadism has been made the issue the real problem - migration is being ignored which will have dire consequences in a generation.
 
eh, I'm not jumping, wtf does that even mean ?

Here are the facts, let me run them by you (again).

Everyone is a target for the jihadis, this is truer for countries (such as Poland) that have directly participated in wars in the middle east.

Yet there have been zero jihad attacks in Poland because they won't allow islamic migration the way next door Germany has.

Anon_0248d8_6285214.jpg


99 other problems but jihad aint one of them, good job Poland.

You're wong, you know this. You contradict the Polish government
You provide no evidence in support of your claims.
So called terrorist attack map already debunked in previous link posted.

Good day.

Im not indoors amigo. Im doing cardio right now. Maybe you are indoors...like always

That said, no muslims means no islamic terrorism.
Blah blah blah. If you were doing cardio for real, you wouldn't be busy reading and posting, but rather focussing on your training efforts. You have no way of knowing if/when/how often I am in/outdoors, so don't make an *** of yourself again. I'm done with responding to your substanceless posts.
 
@ValerioAurelius Your real issue is not Islam. Your real issue is migration. Your real issue is NOT North Africa. Think of the Roman Empire. It was part of it. You need to integrate North Africa in re-play of Anvcient Rome and use those countries to seal of the Sahara. If you don't migration problem in a generation will explode. The southern flank of Europe should be the Sahara - not Meditearnean as the Romans demonstrated. Jihadism is being over sold in media and causing mass hysteria thus masking the real issue. Migration.


Below is the real deal on terrorisn.


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https://qz.com/558597/charted-terror-attacks-in-western-europe-from-the-1970s-to-now/

@Vergennes Islamist terrorism does not even come shade compared to IRA. The republicans were a lethal force compared to the nursery muppet jihadis. London, Manchester, Birmingam had their entire city centres blown up by IRA. Entire convoy of British Army patrol were wiped out by IRA and even shot down RAF helicopters. They even managed to kill the Queens uncle and nearly killed Prime Minister Thatcher. so this jihadi threat is childs play compared to what we have saw in UK prior to 2000s.
 
The map is terribly misleading.


There have been terror related incidents and attacks in Poland too. And most of the dots in the map represent non-islamic related attacks. Terrorism isn't unknown by Europeans nor a new concept.

Look at the IRA in Britain and NI,ETA in Spain or even the FLNC in Corsica. And terror attacks done by far left or far right groups.

46 years of terrorist attacks in Europe, visualized

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/a-history-of-terrorism-in-europe/

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Fair enough, but like I said

99 other problems but jihad aint one of them..

You're wong, you know this. You contradict the Polish government
You provide no evidence in support of your claims.
So called terrorist attack map already debunked in previous link posted.

Good day.
The reason why there have been zero jihad attacks in Poland is glaringly obvious to anyone who looks at the facts. I don't know what you're trying to deny here.

You have a good day too.
 
The map is terribly misleading.


There have been terror related incidents and attacks in Poland too. And most of the dots in the map represent non-islamic related attacks. Terrorism isn't unknown by Europeans nor a new concept.

Look at the IRA in Britain and NI,ETA in Spain or even the FLNC in Corsica. And terror attacks done by far left or far right groups.

46 years of terrorist attacks in Europe, visualized

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/a-history-of-terrorism-in-europe/

View attachment 419476

What's the point in talking about the past just to delude ourself that the present is better? As it is now,muslims are killing people from Spain, to the UK, to Belgium, Sweden,Germany, France or Finland. Wherever they are in Europe ,they are over represented in crime stats, jailing statistics, many don't integrate and create enclaves with a total different way of life from modern Europeans.These are the facts,they are cold,harsh and appalling but they are true.
 
You're wong, you know this. You contradict the Polish government
You provide no evidence in support of your claims.
So called terrorist attack map already debunked in previous link posted.

Good day.


Blah blah blah. If you were doing cardio for real, you wouldn't be busy reading and posting, but rather focussing on your training efforts. You have no way of knowing if/when/how often I am in/outdoors, so don't make an *** of yourself again. I'm done with responding to your substanceless posts.

I dont read. I get a message bia tappa talk and respond with a oneliner. I even play xbox whioe doing cardio. But what would a weak beta like you know about that.

@ValerioAurelius Your real issue is not Islam. Your real issue is migration. Your real issue is NOT North Africa. Think of the Roman Empire. It was part of it. You need to integrate North Africa in re-play of Anvcient Rome and use those countries to seal of the Sahara. If you don't migration problem in a generation will explode. The southern flank of Europe should be the Sahara - not Meditearnean as the Romans demonstrated. Jihadism is being over sold in media and causing mass hysteria thus masking the real issue. Migration.


Below is the real deal on terrorisn.


Z0qZo7B.png



https://qz.com/558597/charted-terror-attacks-in-western-europe-from-the-1970s-to-now/

@Vergennes Islamist terrorism does not even come shade compared to IRA. The republicans were a lethal force compared to the nursery muppet jihadis. London, Manchester, Birmingam had their entire city centres blown up by IRA. Entire convoy of British Army patrol were wiped out by IRA and even shot down RAF helicopters. They even managed to kill the Queens uncle and nearly killed Prime Minister Thatcher. so this jihadi threat is childs play compared to what we have saw in UK prior to 2000s.

Northern africa was different back then. Its not compareable with us now. It would not work.
 
What's the point in talking about the past just to delude ourself that the present is better? As it is now,muslims are killing people from Spain, to the UK, to Belgium, Sweden,Germany, France or Finland. Wherever they are in Europe ,they are over represented in crime stats, jailing statistics, many don't integrate and create enclaves with a total different way of life from modern Europeans.These are the facts,they are cold,harsh and appalling but they are true.

I agree. However,I was pointing out about all those dots on the map and the fact that people want to present this map as all jihadi attacks in Europe and show how there have been none in Poland to satisfy their points. Because according to this map,there have been islamist terror attacks in Czech Republic,Romania,Belarus and Ukraine too. And God knows there are not that much non European immigrants and muslims there.
 
I agree. However,I was pointing out about all those dots on the map and the fact that people want to present this map as all jihadi attacks in Europe and show how there have been none in Poland to satisfy their points. Because according to this map,there have been islamist terror attacks in Czech Republic,Romania,Belarus and Ukraine too. And God knows there are not that much non European immigrants and muslims there.
One was arrested this year in Romania for planning am attack and several have been thrown out of the country and banned entry for suspected terror links or simpathies.
 

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