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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-sdf/u-s-led-coalition-helps-to-build-new-syrian-force-angering-turkey-idUSKBN1F30OA

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ew-syrian-force-angering-turkey-idUSKBN1F30OA

BEIRUT/ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The U.S.-led coalition is working with its Syrian militia allies to set up a new border force of 30,000 personnel, the coalition said on Sunday, a move that has added to Turkish anger over U.S. support for Kurdish-dominated forces in Syria.


FILE PHOTO - A man gestures at U.S military vehicles driving in the town of Darbasiya next to the Turkish border, Syria April 28, 2017. REUTERS/Rodi Said
A senior Turkish official told Reuters the U.S. training of the new “Border Security Force” was the reason that the U.S. charge d‘affaires was summoned in Ankara last week, and President Tayyip Erdogan’s spokesman said the development was worrying and unacceptable.

The force, whose inaugural class is currently being trained, will be deployed at the borders of the area controlled by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) - an alliance of militias in northern and eastern Syria dominated by the Kurdish YPG.

In an email to Reuters, the coalition’s Public Affairs Office confirmed details of the new force reported by The Defense Post. About half the force will be SDF veterans, and recruiting for the other half is under way, the Public Affairs Office said.

The force will deploy along the border with Turkey to the north, the Iraqi border to the southeast and along the Euphrates River Valley, which broadly acts as the dividing line separating the U.S.-backed SDF and Syrian government forces backed by Iran and Russia.

U.S. support for the SDF has put enormous strain on ties with NATO ally Turkey, which views the YPG as an extension of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) - a group that has waged a three-decade insurgency in Turkey and is considered a terrorist group by the European Union, Turkey and the United States.


Erdogan’s spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said that Washington “is taking worrying steps to legitimise this organisation and make it lasting in the region”.

“It is absolutely not possible for this to be accepted,” he said, adding that Turkey “will continue its fight against any terrorist organisation regardless of its name and shape within and outside its borders”.

Syria’s main Kurdish groups have emerged as one of the few winners of the Syrian war and are working to entrench their autonomy over large parts of northern Syria.

Washington opposes those autonomy plans, even as it has backed the SDF, the main partner for the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State in Syria.

The coalition said the BSF would operate under SDF command and about 230 individuals were currently undergoing training in its inaugural class.

”Efforts are taken to ensure individuals serve in areas close to their homes. Therefore, the ethnic composition of the force will be relative to the areas in which they serve.

“More Kurds will serve in the areas in northern Syria. More Arabs will serve in areas along the Euphrates River Valley and along the border with Iraq to the south,” the coalition’s Public Affairs Office said.

“A NEW MISSION”

“The base of the new force is essentially a realignment of approximately 15,000 members of the SDF to a new mission in the Border Security Force as their actions against ISIS draw to a close,” it said.


“They will be providing border security through professionally securing checkpoints and conducting counter-IED operations,” it said, adding that coalition and SDF forces were still engaging Islamic State pockets in Deir al-Zor province.

IED stands for improvised explosive device.

The United States has about 2,000 troops in Syria fighting Islamic State and has said it is prepared to stay in the country until it is certain Islamic State is defeated, that stabilization efforts can be sustained and there is meaningful progress in U.N.-led peace talks on ending the conflict.

The Syrian government in Damascus has declared the United States an illegal occupation force and its SDF allies as “traitors”. A top Syrian Kurdish politician told Reuters last week that the United States appeared in no hurry to leave Syria.
 
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Ine could see this comung fir quite some time. It also may cause freat deal of conflict and bloodshed.
 
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30k army?... Probably half of them will die by a friendly fire... If you even give nukes to these retards they blow up themselves... Poor average american citizen pay for nothing... shame

They have a concentric identical traits with arabs and turks.

Thats an insult to us.. If they had they would have some honor ... I don't know about arab part
 
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Anyway I tell you what's the most logical step for Turkey. Yankees betrayed us and now we will betray them by closing eye to Assad regime for a while longer. Under an agreement we will drive Kurds to hell with Syrian Army after they are defeated we can be enemies again. Sounds dirty and I like it.
 
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@Sharif al-Hijaz are Kurds Arabs or are they Iranis?
They are Kurds..Turkish, Arab and Iranian Kurds.. they have a distinct ethnicity and language (Kurdish, and speak also Arabic or Turkish or Persian as second or first language depending on their location.. this is as far as I know).. And most of them are Muslims..
 
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Anyway I tell you what's the most logical step for Turkey. Yankees betrayed us and now we will betray them by closing eye to Assad regime for a while longer. Under an agreement we will drive Kurds to hell with Syrian Army after they are defeated we can be enemies again. Sounds dirty and I like it.
Dirty is always good.
 
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There's also some yazidis within them as well.
They are Kurds..Turkish, Arab and Iranian Kurds.. they have a distinct ethnicity and language (Kurdish, and speak also Arabic or Turkish or Persian as second or first language depending on their location.. this is as far as I know).. And most of them are Muslims..
 
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@Sharif al-Hijaz are Kurds Arabs or are they Iranis?

Nothing to do with Arabs other than Kurdish minorities living in tiny Northern Iraq and parts of tiny Northern Syria (Northeastern). Intermarriages do occur between Arabs in Syria and Iraq but they are fairly rare and it is mostly always Arab-Kurdish marriages (Arab males and Kurdish females). However it is frowned upon. More common in Iraq, especially between the Arabized Fayli Kurds (many based in Baghdad) and local Iraqi Arabs. Some Kurdish tribes apparently have Arab origins but whether this is accurate or not, I have no clue about nor do I frankly care about it.

Kurds are Iranic-speaking peoples but they cluster more with people of the region than say Iranic speaking Pashtuns 1500-2000 km away. Just like Indo-European Bengali speakers have nothing to do with Indo-European speaking Icelandic people.

BTW Kurdish opportunists (terrorists in fact) were dealt with by local Arabs in Iraq already and soon they will be dealt with completely in Syria again. As for peaceful Kurds, I am neutral like with most other peoples. Good and bad apples and everything.

Kurds have more in common with Farsis.

They are Kurds..Turkish, Arab and Iranian Kurds.. they have a distinct ethnicity and language (Kurdish, and speak also Arabic or Turkish or Persian as second or first language depending on their location.. this is as far as I know).. And most of them are Muslims..

Most Arabs (Iraqis and Syrians) would not like to be called Kurds.:lol: Rest of the Arabs have hardly any clue about Kurds although we have some 20.000 people (not sure if this is the correct number but there are definitely some but not many) or so (nationals) of Kurdish origin in KSA who often go by the name of Al-Kurdi. Just like Salah ad-Din's (ra) ancestors live in Hijaz and go by the name Al-Ayoubi.
 
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-sdf/u-s-led-coalition-helps-to-build-new-syrian-force-angering-turkey-idUSKBN1F30OA

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ew-syrian-force-angering-turkey-idUSKBN1F30OA

BEIRUT/ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The U.S.-led coalition is working with its Syrian militia allies to set up a new border force of 30,000 personnel, the coalition said on Sunday, a move that has added to Turkish anger over U.S. support for Kurdish-dominated forces in Syria.


FILE PHOTO - A man gestures at U.S military vehicles driving in the town of Darbasiya next to the Turkish border, Syria April 28, 2017. REUTERS/Rodi Said
A senior Turkish official told Reuters the U.S. training of the new “Border Security Force” was the reason that the U.S. charge d‘affaires was summoned in Ankara last week, and President Tayyip Erdogan’s spokesman said the development was worrying and unacceptable.

The force, whose inaugural class is currently being trained, will be deployed at the borders of the area controlled by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) - an alliance of militias in northern and eastern Syria dominated by the Kurdish YPG.

In an email to Reuters, the coalition’s Public Affairs Office confirmed details of the new force reported by The Defense Post. About half the force will be SDF veterans, and recruiting for the other half is under way, the Public Affairs Office said.

The force will deploy along the border with Turkey to the north, the Iraqi border to the southeast and along the Euphrates River Valley, which broadly acts as the dividing line separating the U.S.-backed SDF and Syrian government forces backed by Iran and Russia.

U.S. support for the SDF has put enormous strain on ties with NATO ally Turkey, which views the YPG as an extension of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) - a group that has waged a three-decade insurgency in Turkey and is considered a terrorist group by the European Union, Turkey and the United States.


Erdogan’s spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said that Washington “is taking worrying steps to legitimise this organisation and make it lasting in the region”.

“It is absolutely not possible for this to be accepted,” he said, adding that Turkey “will continue its fight against any terrorist organisation regardless of its name and shape within and outside its borders”.

Syria’s main Kurdish groups have emerged as one of the few winners of the Syrian war and are working to entrench their autonomy over large parts of northern Syria.

Washington opposes those autonomy plans, even as it has backed the SDF, the main partner for the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State in Syria.

The coalition said the BSF would operate under SDF command and about 230 individuals were currently undergoing training in its inaugural class.

”Efforts are taken to ensure individuals serve in areas close to their homes. Therefore, the ethnic composition of the force will be relative to the areas in which they serve.

“More Kurds will serve in the areas in northern Syria. More Arabs will serve in areas along the Euphrates River Valley and along the border with Iraq to the south,” the coalition’s Public Affairs Office said.

“A NEW MISSION”

“The base of the new force is essentially a realignment of approximately 15,000 members of the SDF to a new mission in the Border Security Force as their actions against ISIS draw to a close,” it said.


“They will be providing border security through professionally securing checkpoints and conducting counter-IED operations,” it said, adding that coalition and SDF forces were still engaging Islamic State pockets in Deir al-Zor province.

IED stands for improvised explosive device.

The United States has about 2,000 troops in Syria fighting Islamic State and has said it is prepared to stay in the country until it is certain Islamic State is defeated, that stabilization efforts can be sustained and there is meaningful progress in U.N.-led peace talks on ending the conflict.

The Syrian government in Damascus has declared the United States an illegal occupation force and its SDF allies as “traitors”. A top Syrian Kurdish politician told Reuters last week that the United States appeared in no hurry to leave Syria.
So they start targeting Turkey. This is not a good sign
 
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But they did save your behinds in crusades. Hehehehe
Nothing to do with Arabs other than Kurdish minorities living in tiny Northern Iraq and parts of tiny Northern Syria (Northeastern). Intermarriages do occur between Arabs in Syria and Iraq but they are fairly rare and it is mostly always Arab-Kurdish marriages (Arab males and Kurdish females). However it is frowned upon. More common in Iraq, especially between the Arabized Fayli Kurds (many based in Baghdad) and local Iraqi Arabs. Some Kurdish tribes apparently have Arab origins but whether this is accurate or not, I have no clue about nor do I frankly care about it.

Kurds are Iranic-speaking peoples but they cluster more with people of the region than say Iranic speaking Pashtuns 1500-2000 km away. Just like Indo-European Bengali speakers have nothing to do with Indo-European speaking Icelandic people.

BTW Kurdish opportunists (terrorists in fact) were dealt with by local Arabs in Iraq already and soon they will be dealt with completely in Syria again. As for peaceful Kurds, I am neutral like with most other peoples. Good and bad apples and everything.

Kurds have more in common with Farsis.



Most Arabs (Iraqis and Syrians) would not like to be called Kurds.:lol: Rest of the Arabs have hardly any clue about Kurds although we have some 20.000 people (not sure if this is the correct number but there are definitely some but not many) or so (nationals) of Kurdish origin in KSA who often go by the name of Al-Kurdi. Just like Salah ad-Din's (ra) ancestors live in Hijaz and go by the name Al-Ayoubi.
 
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But they did save your behinds in crusades. Hehehehe

No, they did not.

The army was majority Arab and it was fought on Arab lands. Only Salah ad-Din was a Kurd and moreover an Arabized Kurd born on Arab land and of partial Arab ancestry. There was very little Kurdish about him aside from paternal origin. Ironically all his descendants are now Arabs and live in Arab countries (KSA and Jordan). Even their surname is Arabic (Al-Ayoubi) and genetically they must be 99% Arab and 1% Kurd here 800 years after.

As for saving, Arabs would have defeated the Crusaders with or without Salah ad-Din eventually as they did in many previous and later battles.

Just like the Mongols were eventually defeated by Arabs on Arab land. As every other invader, most recently Westerners (France in Algeria) after a heroic uprising against all odds.
 
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