US threatened to bomb Pakistan 'back to stone age' after 9/11: Musharraf

[Srirangan]

It is common fact that the 3 minute phone call did it back then.

This is just a PR stunt by General Musharraf to sell his book. Doesn't he have a country to run? Writing a book is a full time job.

 

[Awesome]

When i first saw the reports on BBC i thought pakistanis would be considering it as a shame that Mushraff had to do this under total media glare and that too in US.

Did anyone watch the "60 mins"..was Mushraff asked why he joined WOT afterall...was it becoz of the threat??

What ever the reason its been better for pakistan..after all look at what Iraq is now.

It would've been a lot more shameful if the US was given the 'excuse' it obviously needed to attack "someone".

 

[Awesome]

It is common fact that the 3 minute phone call did it back then.

This is just a PR stunt by General Musharraf to sell his book. Doesn't he have a country to run? Writing a book is a full time job.

Could be, but its more likely to be with other reasons as forementioned in this thread. He also got to pimp his book up at the white house press conference podium! Even Bush said "Now Y'all go and buy his book".

 

[Srirangan]

Even Bush said "Now Y'all go and buy his book".

Wait a minute, I thought Bush was the "devil"

On a serious note (no pun intended) GWB's statement had satire and humor. But yea, like I said - PR stunt to promote the book.

Remember the previous Indian cricket coach John Wright's PR stunt when he released his book - "Dravid and Sachin hate each other" ..

 

[Awesome]

They are kinda at each other this time . Of course under the garb of smiles, hugs and jokes.

 

[Neo]

Armitage has history of candor, colorful language

By Arshad Mohammed | September 22, 2006

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bull-necked and blunt-spoken, Richard Armitage has long had a reputation for candor and colorful language even if he never threatened to bomb Pakistan after the September 11 attacks.

The U.S. deputy secretary of state from 2001 until 2005, Armitage on Friday denied Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf's claim he threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the Stone Age" if it refused to cooperate in the war on terrorism.

"I didn't say it," Armitage told CNN. "Never did I threaten to use military force. I was not authorized to."

While some current and former U.S. officials said the comment sounded like something Armitage might have said, they believed his denials and noted he typically expressed himself even more vividly.

"It doesn't sound like Rich to me," said Aaron Miller, a former State Department Middle East specialist. "He would have come up with a much more graphic and original formulation."

Armitage's candor brought him deep embarrassment this year when he acknowledged he was the original source in the leak of former CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity.

"It was a terrible error on my part," Armitage told the New York times two weeks ago in an admission that many took as a sign of his honesty.

The Plame case led to an investigation into leaks of her identity that Bush administration critics said were to punish Plame's former diplomat husband for his criticism of how pre-Iraq war intelligence was used.

A weightlifter with the physique of a fireplug, Armitage's career with the U.S. government spanned five decades and included three combat tours in Vietnam and sensitive posts at the Pentagon before he become deputy to former Secretary of State Colin Powell in March 2001.

"The man cussed like a sailor and spoke sense in simple declarative sentences," Powell wrote of Armitage his 1995 autobiography. "Big, bald, brassy, built like an anvil, he looked as if he could step into the ring next Saturday at the World Federation of Wrestling."

By all accounts, Armitage worked fiercely to defend Powell during his four years in the Bush administration, which were marked by infighting -- particularly between the Pentagon and the State Department -- over issues from Iraq to North Korea.

Asked about some of his boss's more conservative critics in 2001, Armitage called them: "Pissants who have never served in uniform."

When told, in October 2004, about a newspaper report that then Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi had killed six people in Baghdad, Armitage replied: "I've got an eight-letter word for it."

"Does it begin with b?" a journalist asked.

"No, it begins with n ... nonsense," Armitage replied.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...r_colorful_language/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News

 

[Salahuddin]

Following the Pope's remarks, it's interesting to note that the US, a Secular, Capitalist Christian nation, resorted to 'evidence and reason' to win allies in it's war against Islam and 'crush' dissent.

When facts and evidence are short, bombs and weapons of mass destruction always make a convincing argument.

Whether this is a fig leaf for Musharraf's betrayal or true words of a traitor, the fact remains hundreds of thousands died in Afghanistan and many are being killed daily for merely defending their lands and Islam. May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala bring Victory to the Muslims soon.

 

[Awesome]

link: It's Bush vs Mush

 

[KashifAsrar]

It was a smart decision.

If that has happened to Bangladesh. There would have been no Bangladesh. Imagine a country with no nuclear weapons and fights with U.S!

He made a correct decision and leaded the country to the prosperity and hope. It was in interest of Pakistan to join the hands of U.S on war on terror, and rightly did so.

The same thing happened to Japan in one of the old days. Japan agreed with U.S for the access to its ports (for military and trade) even though it didn't wanted to, it recieved the same threats, Japan knew that it couldn't resist against the heavy machine guns and powerful ships. Later on it was the same Japan that kicked U.S *** out of its sea ports and U.S couldn't do anything about it, because Japan prepeared itself.

If Pakistan had not agreed for fighting on the global war on terror, what would it have gotten except for bombs and *** kicked?

Now it is the time of Pakistan that it is prepearing itself. It is acquiring fighter jets, frigates, conventional submarines, nuclear submarines, training aircrafts, tanks, APCs and a lot more. It is not the old Pakistan anymore, the economy is at its height! The time will come, when Pakistan will be one of the big global powers, but its still not that time. The time will come!

Its easy to say that we will fight, but its hard to fight. Me and you are only cyber militaric war specialists, nothing more than bullocks.

The war is a total reality!

you are right webby. I also hold the same views. Mush took the right decision at that time. 100% correct.
My concerns are for now Webby. Pakistan must provide a 'Security Gaurantee' to IRAN now. Sending Iran to 'stone-age' now is what Americans are planning. And if does happen then biggest looser would be Pakistan, as the sole survivor with nuclear power in the Muslim World. Then I fear that Pakistan would either be dictated by a USA puppet or would be sanctioned and thrown to economic and political turmoil. The new MAP of Muslim world is thrown open just days ago and its information is still available on PFF.
Let us all Give a cool reasonable discussion to this concern and share your views with logic and reasons.
Kashif

 

[Srirangan]

The same thing happened to Japan in one of the old days. Japan agreed with U.S for the access to its ports (for military and trade) even though it didn't wanted to, it recieved the same threats, Japan knew that it couldn't resist against the heavy machine guns and powerful ships. Later on it was the same Japan that kicked U.S *** out of its sea ports and U.S couldn't do anything about it, because Japan prepeared itself.

You do know how this story ended, don't you?

 

[EagleEyes]

You do know how this story ended, don't you?

I just know the highlights of it. I have not gotten into detail. You might want to PM me the links of this incident. I am not even sure about the name of this incident.

I will appreciate it.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

To the last writer, Iran needs to take it own stand. Pakistan cannot trust iran at all.

The old saying hold true "ONE WHO LOVES AND RUNS AWAY, WILL LIVE TO LOVE ANOTHER DAY". I am greatful that our president had the vision to accept the percieved threat and act in saving the nation from total destruction. The tragedy with afghanistan and iraq was that their leaders had absolutely no vision. They are equally responsible for the destruction caused to their respective nations-----and not only that, they have for the first time exposed the vulnerabilities of the muslim nations to the rest of the world.

 

[Srirangan]

I just know the highlights of it. I have not gotten into detail. You might want to PM me the links of this incident. I am not even sure about the name of this incident.

I will appreciate it.

It ended with the end of WWII mate.

 

[KashifAsrar]

Hi,

To the last writer, Iran needs to take it own stand. Pakistan cannot trust iran at all.

The old saying hold true "ONE WHO LOVES AND RUNS AWAY, WILL LIVE TO LOVE ANOTHER DAY". I am greatful that our president had the vision to accept the percieved threat and act in saving the nation from total destruction. The tragedy with afghanistan and iraq was that their leaders had absolutely no vision. They are equally responsible for the destruction caused to their respective nations-----and not only that, they have for the first time exposed the vulnerabilities of the muslim nations to the rest of the world.

The problem with Iran and Afghanistan are almost complimentry from leadership point of view. Afghanistan was moving forward in the days of Taliban when BUSH took the 'Revenge'. So it is now a most lawless country in the muslim world.
Iran developed a leadership in retaliation to the US puppet SHAH's regime. It is too rigid to take a more conclusive (Rather I should say INCLUSIVE) path in its affair. Iran just started to crawl technologically and millitary and challenged the horse riders! What a pity that it created a mess for itself and find itself un-able to come out of it.
In any case Pakistan, despite the bitter experience with Iran, must come forward to safegaurd thier and hence its own interests.
Kashif

 

[Skeptic786]

posting done in the wrong thread....thats why i have deleted it