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US suspends military aid to Pakistan. Military says it doesn't need it.

sir Zardari/Gillani are worry abut there pocket more then any thing else.

The sad part is when something major happens, leaders are supposed to come on air and address the nation and talk to them and apprise them of the situation. Our leaders? They go into hiding.
 
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The sad part is when something major happens, leaders are supposed to come on air and address the nation and talk to them and apprise them of the situation. Our leaders? They go into hiding.

AA: They are rulers, NOT leaders. A world of difference I think.
 
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The sad part is when something major happens, leaders are supposed to come on air and address the nation and talk to them and apprise them of the situation. Our leaders? They go into hiding.

if we hope from them behave like men we are fools sir they have nothing totally nothing .i think nothing worse then these can happen to pakistan.
 
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Code:
Year   Eco  USAID  Military    CSF
1948	 0.77	 0	 0	 
1949	 0	 0	 0	 
1950	 0	 0	 0	 
1951	 2.89	 0	 0	 
1952	 74.25	 73.55	 0	 
1953	 748.29	 286.23	 0	 
1954	 156.95	 152.24	 0	 
1955	 733.15	 477.18	 266	 
1956	 1065.67	 700.89	 1086.5	 
1957	 1079.65	 619.9	 437.59	 
1958	 968.22	 589.59	 533.13	 
1959	 1367.93	 985.25	 366.81	 
1960	 1689.84	 1181.35	 230.39	 
1961	 989.53	 780.04	 260.47	 
1962	 2334.65	 1446.28	 549.02	 
1963	 2066.77	 1063.68	 292.31	 
1964	 2222.66	 1334.16	 187.55	 
1965	 1928.9	 1041.58	 77.38	 
1966	 816.28	 691.28	 8.4	 
1967	 1213.36	 719.38	 26.33	 
1968	 1501.68	 672.5	 25.98	 
1969	 541.76	 504.31	 0.5	 
1970	 968.32	 570.93	 0.87	 
1971	 474.25	 31.21	 0.73	 
1972	 692.87	 261.87	 0.42	 
1973	 715.35	 387.63	 1.24	 
1974	 381.97	 219.13	 0.95	 
1975	 614.34	 326.02	 0.92	 
1976	 644.1	 336.78	 1.28	 
1977	 319.16	 209.4	 0.92	 
1978	 214.92	 55.49	 1.52	 
1979	 128.81	 23.31	 1.2	 
1980	 137.53	 0	 0	 
1981	 164.16	 0	 0	 
1982	 400.6	 200.07	 1.2	 
1983	 534.18	 383.29	 499.77	 
1984	 568.05	 415.84	 555.9	 
1985	 607.26	 447.53	 583.53	 
1986	 623.56	 460.91	 545.82	 
1987	 599.07	 469.53	 534.54	 
1988	 769.14	 635	 430.69	 
1989	 559.72	 421.27	 367.06	 
1990	 548.07	 422.37	 283.44	 
1991	 149.59	 141.78	 0	 
1992	 27.14	 0.57	 7.2	 
1993	 74.19	 7.98	 0	 
1994	 68.43	 0	 0	 
1995	 23.13	 10.1	 0	 
1996	 22.79	 0	 0	 
1997	 57.17	 0	 0	 
1998	 36.32	 0	 0	 
1999	 102.14	 6.72	 0.22	 
2000	 45.72	 0	 0	 
2001	 228.02	 0.54	 0	 
2002	 937.34	 744.74	 1739.7	 1386.06
2003	 377.93	 284.81	 1760.23	 1450.98
2004	 406.12	 316.56	 891.39	 794.11
2005	 490.42	 374.04	 1397.06	 1050.15
2006	 689.43	 488.46	 1246.1	 916.13
2007	 688.62	 498.91	 1079.72	 755.74
2008	 614.48	 392.05	 1378.32	 1014.9
2009	 1353.65	 1076.25	 1114.26	 685
2010	 1867.13	 1529.53	 2524.61	 1220.5

Sixty years of US aid to Pakistan: Get the data | Global development | guardian.co.uk

The Obama administration has announced it will withhold more than one-third of all military assistance to Pakistan - an aid envelope worth some $800m (£498m). The withheld aid includes funding for military equipment and reimbursements for selected Pakistani security expenditures - including a payment of $300m for counterinsurgency programmes.

US aid to Pakistan has a long political history and this is not the first time money has been withheld. Here we've pulled out all the figures for both US military aid and economic assistance (including development assistance) to Pakistan between 1948 and 2010.

The dataset comes from Wren Elhai, at the Washington-based Center for Global Development (CGD), who in May published a report along with Nancy Birdsall and Molly Kinder analysing the long-term impact of US aid to Pakistan. The numbers - which come from the US Overseas Grants and Loans database and the Congressional Research Service - have been adjusted for inflation and are presented in terms of the value of the US$ in 2009.

Some highlights:

• US economic assistance to Pakistan peaked in 1962, at over $2.3bn

• in 2010, military assistance to Pakistan totalled $2.5bn - including $1.2bn in coalition support funds

• US assistance to Pakistan reached its lowest level in the 1990s, after President George H.W. Bush suspended aid flows over Pakistan's emerging nuclear programme

• US military assistance dropped dramatically during and immediately after the Indo-Pakistani wars of 1965 and 1971

• in the 1970s, President Carter suspended all aid to Pakistan (except food aid) in response to Pakistan's decision to construct a uranium enrichment facility

• although US assistance (both economic and military) to Pakistan has fluctuated considerably over the last 60 years, it has risen steadily since 2001​

Pakistan has historically been among the top recipients of US aid - since 1948, the US has sent more than £30bn in direct aid to the country. Nearly half of this has been for military assistance. However, since Osama bin Laden was discovered and killed in Abbottabad earlier this year, US president Barack Obama has come under increasing pressure to justify US aid spending in the country.

Although military assistance is currently the only form of US aid to Pakistan to be withheld, Congress has considered other - as yet unsuccessful - bills to also block US economic assistance, and civilian aid to Pakistan will no doubt be up for debate again next year, as the 2012 budget battles get underway.

I wish there was somebody who had some working about where all that aid go?
 
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US work for there intreast eather its 1950 or 2050 we always been used as a tool .problem is we do it again and again and never learn from our past.
It's more complicated than that; Pakistan was a reliable ally against Soviet Communism and up until 1960s used foreign aid efficiently and wisely (though funding for schools in the feudal areas never took off). The South Koreans took Pakistan as their development model.

Then disaster struck in the form of Z. A. Bhutto. The happy, prosperous Pakistan of 1965 wasn't for him. He mouthed Islam and socialism, but really saw himself as another Napoleon. He made deliberate decisions to change the course towards increased militarization of society and greater armed conflict with India, seeking personal glory. From that point Pakistan started going downhill.

No need to take my word for it. Study the history yourself; not Pakistan's politicized textbooks, but as close as possible to the original sources, reading them in their contemporary context.
 
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Pakistan Army: Don’t need US Aid | PKKH.tv

BY SAEED SHAH

MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS

ISLAMABAD — ISLAMABAD-The Pakistan military declared Sunday that it doesn’t need U.S. aid, as the White House confirmed that United States is withholding about $800 million in aid to Pakistan’s armed forces.

Tense relations between Islamabad and Washington worsened in May after the unilateral U.S. raid in northern Pakistan, during which Osama bin Laden was killed. Nuclear-armed Pakistan is struggling to combat Islamic extremists, while its economy is lurching towards disaster.

“The Pakistani relationship is difficult but it must be made to work over time,” William Daley, the White House chief of staff, said on ABC television on Sunday. “But until we get through these difficulties we will hold back some of the money that the American taxpayers have committed to give them.” Daley said the figure amounted to about $800 million.

The cutback seemed to be a direct response to recent moves by Pakistan, which expelled U.S. military trainers from the country, limited the ability of U.S. diplomats and other officials to get visas and restricted CIA operations allowed on its territory.

There are also questions about U.S. civilian aid to Pakistan, about $1.5 billion a year.

Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, the chief spokesman for the Pakistan armed forces, said the military was not officially notified that aid had been cut. He also pointed out that the army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, had declared that U.S. cash reimbursements to the military, known as Coalition Support Funds, should go instead to the civilian government, which needed the money more.

“We have conducted our (anti-extremist) military operations without external support or assistance,” Abbas said. “Reports coming out of the U.S. are aimed at undermining the authority of our military organizations.”

The Obama administration often leaks stories critical of Pakistan to the American press, which riles Pakistani public and official opinion against the United States. Many in Pakistan believe that there is a concerted American effort to weakened Pakistan and its armed forces, among the largest in the world.

Since 2001, the U.S. has committed $21 billion in civilian and military assistance to Pakistan, including $4.5 billion in the 2010-2011 fiscal year, according to a report from the Congressional Research Service. However, not all the of funds committed have been disimbursed, while Pakistan’s losses in the War on Terror amount to nearly $70 billion. Two bills in Congress in the past week, which were voted down, would have cut off aid to Pakistan altogether.

Washington has long been highly critical of the relationship that the Pakistan military maintains with Afghan insurgents and other jihadist groups. Pakistan’s refusal to launch an offensive against the Haqqani network and suspicions that bin Laden benefited from some kind of official support to live in Pakistan have further strained relations.

Accusations from U.S. officials, made public last week by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that Pakistan’s military and its Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency was behind the murder of a journalist, Saleem Shahzad, have further damaged relations with Pakistan’s armed forces. Pakistan’s Military has rejected these allegations and compared them false U.S. Intelligence on Iraq’s WMD programme in the build up to Iraq’s occupation.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Saturday that he believes that bin Laden’s successor as al-Qaida chief, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is in Pakistan’s tribal area and that “he’s one of those we would like to see the Pakistanis target.” Pakistan responded Sunday by asking for the U.S. to share its intelligence on Zawahiri’s whereabouts.

Pakistan, meanwhile is fighting its homegrown extremists who are believed to have support from beyond Pakistan’s western borders, in its tribal area on the border with Afghanistan with a new offensive begin this month, though not the jihadists in its territory who are focused on Afghanistan.

(Shah is a McClatchy special correspondent.)
 
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Please do us the favor. Stop all aid and leave us on our own. We might not survive but that's not your headache, is it ? I do believe that that's not gonna happen though. Pakistanis are fully capable of supporting their country and its economy. We are the highest charity giving nation in the world. If the people know and have the confidence that their money is not being snuck into secret Swiss accounts, they'll get this economy outa shambles in a matter of months.
 
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Please do us the favor. Stop all aid and leave us on our own. We might not survive but that's not your headache, is it ? I do believe that that's not gonna happen. Pakistanis are fully capable of supporting their country and economy. We are the highest charity giving nation in the world. If the people know and have the confidence that there money is not being snuck into secret Swiss accounts, they'll get this economy outa shambles in a matter of months.

I agree with this. A few months after stopping all US aid is all that is needed to propel Pakistan forward as a leader of nations InshaAllah!
 
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Are you implying that all that went to waste or was not good for Pakistan (and the US) because there are no results?

I'm assuming it was eaten by the people the US kept giving all this money to.
 
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So now that the US has suspended aid or at least has declared to do so, will Pakistanis now be willing to pay more taxes than they currently do?

...just askin'...
 
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I'm assuming it was eaten by the people the US kept giving all this money to.


All the $50 Billion (or thereabouts) of it? :what:

If so, then this represents failure of governance on an unforgivably massive scale so large that it would be beyond any conventional means of rectifying. :cry:
 
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So now that the US has suspended aid or at least has declared to do so, will Pakistanis now be willing to pay more taxes than they currently do?

...just askin'...

We even survived when there was no aid even we had sanctions, now our tax collections are manyfold.

...u were just trolling'...
 
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We even survived when there was no aid even we had sanctions, now our tax collections are manyfold.

...u were just trolling'...

show him golden era pics may be he wakeup lolz. pakistan was living with 800mn$ funny lame joke.
 
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