US set to bag $5bn defence deals

[SRP]

Hope no more delays.

 

[Dash]

Their military industry will be in a loss in that scenario

Thats why they will never accept this request,,,,,its wishful thinking

couple of yrs ba US India and some other NATO countries went into a JV to develop a light tactical vehicle called as JLTV program but after some prototype the program was cancelled in fqvorof future weapons systems.
Couple of days back I read some news that India and US will enter into a JV for some special guided munitions don't remember what's it called, you might want to check that m

Bottom line is we are entering into that area, ISRO has already entered. So for defense there is scope and opportunity...and we have already started.

 

[Abingdonboy]

jv with USA??

Forget about it dude.They may be hard pressed to give even a simple tot

The future is joint production be it with USA or Russia that should be our focus not to mention invest more on R&D in our own country

We only started a new strategic chapter with the US not so long ago, remember they even have given us some supercomputers but when we conducted the N test it again changed our ties. However with US now focusing more on the Asia-pacific region it is in their interest to further ties with India and down the road in 5-10 years I can see some sort of joint production as it will save cost on both sides.

THIS is the way foreward:


http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/276343-long-overdue-but-welcome-accretions.html

Cooperation/Joint R&D/production.

 

[Black Eagle 90]

Sep 13, 2013, 12.14 AM IST



NEW DELHI: Having already bagged Indian defence contracts worth over $8 billion in recent years after muscling out Russia, Israel and France, the US is now headed towards clinching another four major deals worth almost $5 billion.

Defence ministry sources on Thursday said the deals for six more C-130J " Super Hercules" aircraft ($1.2 billion), 22 Apache attack helicopters ($1.4 billion), 145 M-777 ultra-light howitzers ($885 million) and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters (around $1 billion) "are in the final stages" now.

India will convey this to US deputy secretary of defence Ashton B Carter when he arrives here next week. Carter, who will hold talks with defence minister A K Antony, national security advisor Shiv Shankar Menon and defence secretary R K Mathur, is the Obama administration's "point man" for expanding defence trade with India as a cornerstone of the bilateral strategic ties.

"The deals should be inked within this financial year (2013-2014) despite budgetary constraints. The C-130J deal, for instance, is likely to go to the Cabinet Committee on Security in October-November," said a source.

The aircraft and howitzer deals will be direct government-to-government contracts under the US foreign military sales (FMS) programme, which does not involve competition through global tenders.

The attack and heavy-lift helicopter deals, however, were won by aviation major Boeing after its AH-64D Apache Longbow and twin-rotor Chinook helicopters outclassed Russian Mi-28 Havoc and Mi-26 choppers in field trials and commercial evaluation.

But there are "some loose ends" in the deals that need to be tied up first. The defence ministry, for instance, has told Boeing that it should drop its insistence on "limited liability clauses" being included in the agreements.

Similarly, the M-777 contract has been hanging fire since January 2010 due to field evaluation reports being "leaked" and certain other irregularities involving a top Indian Army officer. "There is an inquiry in progress but it should not be a major hurdle," said another source.

Cost escalation is another big factor. Due to the long delay, the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency last month hiked the cost of the M-777 deal from the earlier $ 647 million to $885 million for the 155mm/39-calibre howitzers.

Incidentally, the four deals are also in tune with the government's recent approval to the Rs 90,000 crore plan to raise a new mountain strike corps along with two "independent" infantry brigades and two "independent" armoured brigades (totalling over 80,000 soldiers) over the next seven years to plug operational gaps against China.

While the first six C-130J aircraft acquired by IAF are based at the Hindon airbase, the six new "Super Hercules" will be housed at Panagarh in West Bengal. Panagarh will serve as the headquarters for the new Army mountain corps.

Similarly, the air-mobile M-777 howitzers, with an almost 30-km range, can be swiftly deployed in high-altitude areas in Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh by helicopters and aircraft to counter China.


Source: US set to bag $5bn defence deals - The Times of India

What about:
20 more C-130J other than 12 already ordered
20 more C-17s
18 more P-8Is

Also Sea Hawk and other choppers.

 

[Abingdonboy]

What about:
20 more C-130J other than 12 already ordered
20 more C-17s
18 more P-8Is

Also Sea Hawk and other choppers.

The IN's total requirement for P-8Is is 24 by ~2020 so orders don't need to be placed just yet for follow-ons. The C-130J orders beyond 12 is purely speculative and there doesn't seem to be any indication of such plans given the MTA's progress and the Avro replacement procurement that is going on. 20 more C-17s is unlikely you're looking at 6-15 more.

The S-70Bs will be ordered in 2014.

 

[Jason bourne]

The IN's total requirement for P-8Is is 24 by ~2020 so orders don't need to be placed just yet for follow-ons. The C-130J orders beyond 12 is purely speculative and there doesn't seem to be any indication of such plans given the MTA's progress and the Avro replacement procurement that is going on. 20 more C-17s is unlikely you're looking at 6-15 more.

The S-70Bs will be ordered in 2014.

Wen india selected dis .. And isn't the contract of all this should be signed in this fiscal year I mean before the new govt. formed ...?

 

[Echo_419]

The IN's total requirement for P-8Is is 24 by ~2020 so orders don't need to be placed just yet for follow-ons. The C-130J orders beyond 12 is purely speculative and there doesn't seem to be any indication of such plans given the MTA's progress and the Avro replacement procurement that is going on. 20 more C-17s is unlikely you're looking at 6-15 more.

The S-70Bs will be ordered in 2014.

USA is the Best when it comes to Delivering on time,After sales support & other things
I am only worried about their Foreign Policy

 

[he-man]

USA is the Best when it comes to Delivering on time,After sales support & other things
I am only worried about their Foreign Policy

true...........they may stop anything anytime,,,u never know

 

[Anees]

pay then in rupees,,,,

 

[agni 6]

I know that i would be pouring cold water on some friends but the cold war has again started.Last time russia/SU
lost because the price of oil fell to nearly 10 dollars a barrel.This is not going to happen now.Reduced reserves and rise
of India and china with huge appetite for oil will not allow it to happen.Russia is again flexing its muscles vs US and europe.It virtually monopolizes gas that flows to europe. India because of its natural geography and being a non white country is again going to side with Russia.It has already demonstrated this by going against against US,UK,France,Israel on the attack
on syria etc.

The good news is that we are moving to indigenous defense production and are already a regional power and growing.
As an example look at the scorpene project, barack 8 and sqibbling even before the MMRCA is signed.

On the other hand look who leased us a nuclear submarine(Amur) when our own levels are dwindling . Ask america to lease us a
Los angeles class submarine and see what happens.
These 5-6 billion dollar deals and the MMRCA are just hot air IMO

Ultimately we and Russia will land up as brother in arms on equal footing.
This is how i see events unfolding but its just an opinion don't hold me to it. I certainly cant predict the future

 

[Mine]

India always want to align with west (US) but US need pak for war with USSR for geography so they snub india.......... with russia also india maintained buyer & seller relation only
anyway another BAD SIGN for china

 

[帅的一匹]

Better India not to betray Russia, you should stay away from USA. Nixon said Indian is the most despicable and dirty race in the world.

 

[Black Eagle 90]

THIS is the way foreward:


http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/276343-long-overdue-but-welcome-accretions.html

Cooperation/Joint R&D/production.

In the name if JV; US might going to gain 100% INDIAN investment in their projects and will not allow them to learn properly.

But in the end INDIA will gain license production.... that will be their success.

 

[klub]

Better India not to betray Russia, you should stay away from USA. Nixon said Indian is the most despicable and dirty race in the world.

America is above one. Russia is the lower one. FGFA, Brahmos, Nuke technology, SU 30 MKI, T 90MS we love them drunk b@$tard$ anyway. 1971 they saved our @$$. In testing times true friends stay behind. Only tonight Russian ambassador will empty Kingfisher's stock of Premium Vodka for "breakfast" though.

Anyways here we as including them as well.

India, Russia to review crucial military projects

 

[vk1111]

America is above one. Russia is the lower one. FGFA, Brahmos, Nuke technology, SU 30 MKI, T 90MS we love them drunk anyway. 1971 they saved our In testing times true friends stay behind. Only tonight Russian ambassador will empty Kingfisher's stock of Premium Vodka for "breakfast" though.

Anyways here we as including them as well.

Russia was best.But looking at how india is being ungrateful,I doubt Russia will give more technology to India.

Better India not to betray Russia, you should stay away from USA. Nixon said Indian is the most despicable and dirty race in the world.

The indian puppet regime of pro-US chidaram and manmohan already have. This is why China is doing aggressive incursions in South Tibet. Now ,Russia will no longer Godfather and China knows it. Its a matter of time before China takes South Tibet and repeats 1962. It won't be the Chola incident skirmish which was in india favor because China was scared of Godfather Russia.