US recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital would be 'major catastrophe' - Turkey

[hussain0216]

LOL, you mad bro. Go and join one of your paedo gangs in Bradford.

Oh dear a blood libel from Harvey Weinstein

 

[KapitaanAli]

I am the lone avatar of Shalem on earth and thus Yerushalem belongs to me.

Wait until my deathray is ready.

 

[Natan]

Great! Cutting ties with Erdoganistan would serve us well.

 

[khansaheeb]

Rishi Sunak scraps Liz Truss's plan to move UK embassy to Jerusalem | The National

Spokeswoman says he 'looked at' the proposal before deciding to reject it

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Rishi Sunak scraps Liz Truss's plan to move UK embassy to Jerusalem​

Spokeswoman says he 'looked at' the proposal before deciding to reject it​

Britain's Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will not move the UK embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. EPA

Laura O'Callaghan

Nov 03, 2022
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has torn up his predecessor’s plan to move the British embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
A week into his new role, a representative of the Conservative leader said his view on the matter was at odds with Liz Truss and confirmed he would not be proceeding with her proposal.
During a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York in September, Ms Truss told Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid that she would review the location of the embassy, sparking warnings and criticism from faith leaders and campaigners.
READ MORE
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Israel has claimed Jerusalem as its capital but the Palestinians want part of the city for the capital of their future state.
“There are no plans to move the UK embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv,” a UK government representative said.

A representative for Mr Sunak told reporters that Ms Truss's plan had “been looked at” before announcing the prime minister's decision.
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Liz Truss told Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid she would look into moving the UK embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem during a bilateral meeting in New York in September. AP
The prime minister on Wednesday attended a reception in London to mark the second anniversary of the signing of the Abraham Accords, praising the agreements for strengthening relations between Israel, the UAE, Bahrain and Morocco.
He used his speech there to hail the accords, which he said had “kick-started a new era of relations in trade, tourism, security, and more” in the Middle East. He said the progress made since the historic signing shows “how we can transform peace and stability in the region”.
“The United Kingdom is committed to working with you all to take this initiative from strength to strength because we all know that progress in the Middle East can be a hard road,” he added.
Following his comments, media reports suggested Mr Sunak had reneged on Ms Truss’s pledge to shift the British embassy to Jerusalem. Before No 10 confirmed the reports on Thursday, the Palestinian Mission to the UK welcomed his stance.

“We would like to thank the UK government, opposition parties, faith leaders, activists and members of the public whose efforts have helped keep the UK in line with international law on the matter,” said Husam Zomlot, the Palestinian ambassador to the UK.
“The question about the location of the UK’s embassy should never have been asked in the first place.
“There is much work to be done to create a conducive environment for peace in the Middle East and make amends for the historic injustice caused by the Balfour Declaration, 105 years ago.
“We call on the British government to play an active role, recognise the state of Palestine, affirm the UK’s support for the rights of Palestinian refugees, ban all illegal goods and products from settlements in occupied territories and sanction companies working in and profiting from them.
“The full and equal application of international law is the way forward towards a lasting and just peace.”

The 1917 declaration by the UK’s foreign secretary at the time Lord Balfour was a key victory for the Zionist movement and a seismic step on the road to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948.
During the First World War, it asserted the British government’s support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
After Ms Truss reaffirmed her leadership campaign pledge to review the location of the embassy in Israel, Muslim, Jewish and Christian figures came forward to publicly express their disapproval of her plan.
Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, said he had “profound concern” about the plan, and said the move “would be seriously damaging to any possibility of lasting peace in the region and to the international reputation of the United Kingdom”.
“Pope Francis and the leaders of churches in the Holy Land have long called for the international Status Quo on Jerusalem to be upheld, in accordance with the relevant UN resolutions. The city must be shared as a common patrimony, never becoming an exclusive monopoly of any party,” he added in a tweet.

The Movement for Reform Judaism said it opposed Ms Truss’s plan and was committed to “two viable states as the only just and realistic solution to the present situation”.
“Consequently, we would caution against the government taking action that might undermine peace in the region,” the group added.
Zara Mohammed, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, wrote to Ms Truss to say she was “alarmed” by her comments. She added that any relocation of the embassy to Jerusalem “does not serve the UK’s interests”.
“If anything, the relocation of the British embassy could result in many destabilising repercussions,” she wrote. “This point is underscored by respected security analysts and academics.”
Updated: November 03, 2022, 8:34 AM

 

[Ali_Baba]

Rishi Sunak scraps Liz Truss's plan to move UK embassy to Jerusalem | The National

Spokeswoman says he 'looked at' the proposal before deciding to reject it

www.thenationalnews.com

Rishi Sunak scraps Liz Truss's plan to move UK embassy to Jerusalem​

Spokeswoman says he 'looked at' the proposal before deciding to reject it​

Britain's Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will not move the UK embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. EPA

Laura O'Callaghan

Nov 03, 2022
Listen In English
Listen in Arabic
Beta V.1.0 - Powered by automated translation
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has torn up his predecessor’s plan to move the British embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
A week into his new role, a representative of the Conservative leader said his view on the matter was at odds with Liz Truss and confirmed he would not be proceeding with her proposal.
During a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York in September, Ms Truss told Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid that she would review the location of the embassy, sparking warnings and criticism from faith leaders and campaigners.
READ MORE
Israeli forces kill two Palestinians in West Bank and East Jerusalem amid election count
Israel has claimed Jerusalem as its capital but the Palestinians want part of the city for the capital of their future state.
“There are no plans to move the UK embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv,” a UK government representative said.

A representative for Mr Sunak told reporters that Ms Truss's plan had “been looked at” before announcing the prime minister's decision.
[IMG alt="Liz Truss told Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid she would look into moving the UK embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem during a bilateral meeting in New York in September. AP
"]https://thenational-the-national-pr...national/ROK5TBATN3B7QZ5ELBZJRSLELU.jpg[/IMG]
Liz Truss told Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid she would look into moving the UK embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem during a bilateral meeting in New York in September. AP
The prime minister on Wednesday attended a reception in London to mark the second anniversary of the signing of the Abraham Accords, praising the agreements for strengthening relations between Israel, the UAE, Bahrain and Morocco.
He used his speech there to hail the accords, which he said had “kick-started a new era of relations in trade, tourism, security, and more” in the Middle East. He said the progress made since the historic signing shows “how we can transform peace and stability in the region”.
“The United Kingdom is committed to working with you all to take this initiative from strength to strength because we all know that progress in the Middle East can be a hard road,” he added.
Following his comments, media reports suggested Mr Sunak had reneged on Ms Truss’s pledge to shift the British embassy to Jerusalem. Before No 10 confirmed the reports on Thursday, the Palestinian Mission to the UK welcomed his stance.

“We would like to thank the UK government, opposition parties, faith leaders, activists and members of the public whose efforts have helped keep the UK in line with international law on the matter,” said Husam Zomlot, the Palestinian ambassador to the UK.
“The question about the location of the UK’s embassy should never have been asked in the first place.
“There is much work to be done to create a conducive environment for peace in the Middle East and make amends for the historic injustice caused by the Balfour Declaration, 105 years ago.
“We call on the British government to play an active role, recognise the state of Palestine, affirm the UK’s support for the rights of Palestinian refugees, ban all illegal goods and products from settlements in occupied territories and sanction companies working in and profiting from them.
“The full and equal application of international law is the way forward towards a lasting and just peace.”

The 1917 declaration by the UK’s foreign secretary at the time Lord Balfour was a key victory for the Zionist movement and a seismic step on the road to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948.
During the First World War, it asserted the British government’s support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
After Ms Truss reaffirmed her leadership campaign pledge to review the location of the embassy in Israel, Muslim, Jewish and Christian figures came forward to publicly express their disapproval of her plan.
Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the leader of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, said he had “profound concern” about the plan, and said the move “would be seriously damaging to any possibility of lasting peace in the region and to the international reputation of the United Kingdom”.
“Pope Francis and the leaders of churches in the Holy Land have long called for the international Status Quo on Jerusalem to be upheld, in accordance with the relevant UN resolutions. The city must be shared as a common patrimony, never becoming an exclusive monopoly of any party,” he added in a tweet.

The Movement for Reform Judaism said it opposed Ms Truss’s plan and was committed to “two viable states as the only just and realistic solution to the present situation”.
“Consequently, we would caution against the government taking action that might undermine peace in the region,” the group added.
Zara Mohammed, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, wrote to Ms Truss to say she was “alarmed” by her comments. She added that any relocation of the embassy to Jerusalem “does not serve the UK’s interests”.
“If anything, the relocation of the British embassy could result in many destabilising repercussions,” she wrote. “This point is underscored by respected security analysts and academics.”
Updated: November 03, 2022, 8:34 AM

So far - the best decision he has made - Shocker !!!

 

[Beny Karachun]

So far - the best decision he has made - Shocker !!!

It's going to be Israel's capital regardless of any embassy

 

[Foinikas]

Erdogan is still "liberating" Kudus?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Published time: 4 Dec, 2017 17:31

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US recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel would be a "major catastrophe" which would lead to new conflicts, Turkey has warned. It follows reports that President Donald Trump is preparing to formally acknowledge the city as the Jewish state's capital.
"If the [current] status of Jerusalem is changed and another step is taken... that would be a major catastrophe," Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag said during a televised press conference on Monday, as quoted by AFP. "It would completely destroy the fragile peace process in the region, and lead to new conflicts, new disputes and new unrest."

Bozdag, who is also the Turkish government's spokesperson, also told Reuters on Monday that Jerusalem's current status was determined by international agreements and must be preserved. "The status of Jerusalem and Temple Mount have been determined by international agreements. It is important to preserve Jerusalem's status for the sake of protecting peace in the region," he said.

The deputy prime minster's statements come after AP and Reuters reported Friday that Trump was preparing to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel this week, citing unnamed sources within the US administration.

Responding to those reports, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan held a phone call with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday, Erdogan's office said, according to Reuters. Erdogan reportedly told Abbas during the conversation that preserving Jerusalem's current status was important for all Muslim countries, adding that international laws and United Nations decisions should be followed.

Friday’s reports prompted a wave of reactions across the Arab world, with the Palestinian Authority and the Arab League warning the US against the move, saying it would increase instability and put an end to the peace process. Hamas already threatened more violence in Jerusalem if Washington recognized the city as the capital of Israel.

READ MORE: Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital next week – reports

Jordan also began moving to convene an emergency meeting of the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) if Washington went ahead with the move. The Palestinian Authority's foreign minister, Riyad al-Maliki also asked the heads of the Arab League and the OIC to host emergency meetings.

Meanwhile, Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner said Sunday that the US president had not yet decided whether he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. "He's still looking at a lot of different facts, and then when he makes his decision, he'll be the one to want to tell you, not me," he said at an annual conference on US policy in the Middle East in Washington, which is organized by the Brookings Institution, a think tank.

Kushner has been holding meetings with regional leaders for months, ahead of an expected peace initiative, although details of that initiative are unknown. It remains unclear whether Trump would follow in the footsteps of his predecessors when it comes to supporting the idea of an independent Palestinian state.

Despite reports that Trump could move to acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish state, he is expected to once again delay his campaign promise to move the US embassy from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv. Israel has been actively urging the US to relocate its diplomatic mission, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying in May that such a move would contribute to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process by "shattering the Palestinian fantasy that Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel." The Palestinians have been adamantly opposed to that notion from the beginning, with Palestine's UN envoy stating in November 2016 that Palestinians would make life "miserable" for the US if it transferred its embassy to Jerusalem.

Israel captured Arab East Jerusalem during the 1967 Middle East war. It later annexed it, declaring the entire city its capital - a move that is not recognized internationally, particularly as the Palestinians want the city as the capital of a future state. The international community views Tel Aviv as the capital of Israel, and all foreign diplomatic missions are located there.





https://www.rt.com/news/411908-us-jerusalem-catastrophe-turkey/

I think two state solution.

 

[khansaheeb]

Jerusalem synagogue attack: Seven killed in shooting

The victims are shot dead in a suspected militant attack at a synagogue in East Jerusalem.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has visited the scene of the attack
Seven people have been shot dead at a synagogue in East Jerusalem, the most killed in an attack of this kind for years. At least three more people were injured.
The incident happened in the city's Neve Yaakov neighbourhood at about 20:15 local time (18:15 GMT).
Police described the attacker as a "terrorist" and said he had been "neutralised".
Local media identified him as a Palestinian man from East Jerusalem.
Speaking at the scene, Israeli police commissioner Kobi Shabtai called it "one of the worst attacks we have encountered in recent years".
Israeli worshippers had gathered for prayers at the start of the Jewish Sabbath in a synagogue in the Jewish settlement and were leaving when the gunman opened fire. Police say that officers then shot him dead.

Forensic teams are investigating a white car that appears to have been driven by the gunman.
Palestinian militant groups praised the attack, but did not say one of their members was responsible.
The attack was celebrated by Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with rallies and the handing out of sweets.

We're close to the synagogue where the police have shut off a big area - armed security forces are everywhere and ambulances are still rushing past. A helicopter is circling overhead.
In the middle of the road is a smashed-up car. The windscreen on the driver's side is punctured with bullet holes. A police forensics officer with a head torch is scouring the back of the car. They tell us to move back.
An eyewitness tells me she saw the gunman here in the street, possibly after he was shot by the police, firing into the air as security forces ran after him. This junction is a distance away from the synagogue, so it seems this is where he tried to escape.

We've heard a few loud bangs, possibly coming from a big Palestinian neighbourhood nearby, suggesting clashes between residents and the Israeli forces.

The attack happened on Holocaust Memorial Day, which commemorates the six million Jews and other victims who were killed in the Holocaust by the Nazi regime in Germany.
"To attack worshippers at a synagogue on Holocaust Memorial Day, and during Shabbat, is horrific. We stand with our Israeli friends," British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly wrote on Twitter.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: "The United States condemns in the strongest terms the horrific terrorist attack."
President Joe Biden talked with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and offered all "appropriate means of support", the White House said.
Shortly after the incident, Mr Netanyahu visited the site, as did the controversial far-right National Security Minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir.

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Israeli emergency service personnel and security forces attended the scene
Mr Ben-Gvir promised to bring safety back to Israel's streets but there is rising anger that he has not yet done so, says the BBC's Yolande Knell in Jerusalem.
Tensions have been high since nine Palestinians - both militants and civilians - were killed during an Israeli military raid in Jenin in the occupied West Bank on Thursday.
This was followed by rocket fire into Israel from Gaza, to which Israel responded with air strikes.
United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres is "deeply worried about the current escalation of violence in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory", a spokesperson said.
"This is the moment to exercise utmost restraint," said Stephane Dujarric.
Israel has occupied East Jerusalem since the 1967 Middle East war and considers the entire city its capital, though this is not recognised by the vast majority of the international community.
Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the future capital of a hoped-for independent state.

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[khansaheeb]

Amazing resources from the official Al Aqsa site - https://alaqsapedia.com

 

[Iñigo]

"L'shono habo'o biY'rusholayim"

"Next year in Jerusalem"

The Yiddish people is an Italian and Turkish-Persian people that the rabbis forged from what in the past, in Roman, Greek and Persian times, had been a religion that spread like wildfire among women.

On this subject there is always a huge confusion between:

(1) "Our colonial proyect" (Jabotinsky) founded by Poles and Ukrainians

(2) Yiddish people

(3) A Religion in Roman, Greek and Persian times

(4) An Aramean ruling class

(5) Hebrews that is the name of Arab tribes in the land of Canaan

...

Zionims is the doctrine that says that "La Mancha" belongs by sentimental attachment to the Polish-Ukrainian club of readers of "Don Quixote de la Mancha".

 

[Iñigo]

...

In the first century the Palestinians were of Hebrew tradition, that is to say, Arab and Canaanite.

And the Judaism of the Palestinians of the first century was neither the Sadducean Priestly Judaism nor the Rabbinic Judaism that arose later.

...

Originally the split was between the Aramaeans (symbolized by "Jacob") and the Hebrews (symbolized by the firstborn).

This old movie has been repeated again.

 

[Beny Karachun]

...

In the first century the Palestinians were of Hebrew tradition, that is to say, Arab and Canaanite.

And the Judaism of the Palestinians of the first century was neither the Sadducean Priestly Judaism nor the Rabbinic Judaism that arose later.

...

Originally the split was between the Aramaeans (symbolized by "Jacob") and the Hebrews (symbolized by the firstborn).

This old movie has been repeated again.

Lol. "Palestinian Hebrews"
What a joke

 

[Iñigo]

Just because you are completely ignorant does not change the History

 

[dBSPL]

The People's Alliance, the alliance structure in which Akp is a member, incorporated the New Welfare Party led by Erbakan. As a result of the negotiations on this agreement, the articles put forward by the YRP were accepted and now included in the election manifesto of the alliance. Regarding the issue of Quds, there is an article stating that 'maximum sensitivity will be shown to the red line issues regarding Quds'. I haven't checked the AKP's election manifesto, but there are definite statements and red lines on Quds, and TR led the convening of the UN a few years ago with this agenda.

On the other hand, in the foreign policy section of the election manifesto of the Nation alliance (Chp is leading party in it), the one of two largest alliance, on the Palestinian issue: "Turkiye will negotiate with all relevant parties to find a permanent solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict within the framework of UN resolutions and on the basis of two states, and Turkiye will play a role as a reliable facilitator on the Palestinian issue." In addition, Saadet Party, which is in the alliance, includes in its party program the statement 'The Israel must abide by UN resolutions, even force to comply when necessary. TR should play a more active role for the establishment of fair and indipendent Palestinian State', which is in line with other conservative parties.

In short, after the elections, we should not expect a major change in TR's state policies on issues where Israel is at the root of the problem.