US okays sale of 8 Global Response Cutters to Pakistan

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Essentially the Pakistan Merchant Navy's fleet is rusting to the bone and needs replacement.

its received more attention in past few years than it did earlier, in my opinion.....but more surface fleet is helpful certainly. PN is part of CTF-150 / anti piracy missions.

Where is pakistan getting the money to pay for this?

2014 defense budget

every service has an allotment, obviously

Courtesy of US taxpayers.

that is - if the funding were to be part of CSF/coalition funds

no such indication of that seen though - article made no mention of that

 

[MilSpec]

that is - if the funding were to be part of CSF/coalition funds

no such indication of that seen though - article made no mention of that

Could be EDA, Pakistan has scored some sweet stuff from EDA account in the past.

 

[HRK]

Could be EDA, Pakistan has scored some sweet stuff from EDA account in the past.

First of All...

Excess Defense Articles (EDA) are defined in the Foreign Assistance Act (FAA) as amended, section 644(g), as:

…the quantity of defense articles (other than construction equipment, including tractors, scrapers, loaders, graders, bulldozers, dump trucks, generators, and compressors) owned by the United States Government, and not procured in anticipation of military assistance or sales requirements, or pursuant to a military assistance or sales order, which is in excess of the Approved Force Acquisition Objective and Approved Force Retention Stock of all Department of Defense Components at the time such articles are dropped from inventory by the supplying agency for delivery to countries or international organizations under this Act.

As per the notification to congress

WASHINGTON, Oct 30, 2014 – The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for GRC43M Cutters and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $350 million.

AND FMS is defined as

Under Section 3, of the AECA, the U.S. may sell defense articles and services to foreign countries and international organizations when the President formally finds that to do so will strengthen the security of the U.S. and promote world peace.

Under FMS the US Government and a foreign government enter into a government-to-government sales agreement. The international agreement is called a Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA).

 

[VCheng]

Could be EDA, Pakistan has scored some sweet stuff from EDA account in the past.

It will take a path similar to the sale of ex-Jordanian F-16s as aiding counter-terrorism efforts in the region.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Yeah and this coming from a an indian where they can't even make toilets, hahaha putting together rockets from imported kits doesn't mean you guys are living on mars

You need TOT for a cutter?? Like seriously?

Next thing i know and you'll be saying like lets import 160 tons of instant noodles from China with full TOT ..

Dude ...... .. .. .

nothing for you to worry? we don't "boast" mother of all deals for 15 years to only find out that there is not enough money to finance the deals hence use delaying techniques

Where is pakistan getting the money to pay for this?

 

[Thorough Pro]

Do you have any proof for that? if no please refrain from thinking out loud.

Are these for Navy or coast guard and I think its some Arab friend who is funding this

 

[nomi007]

any news of Oliver Hazard Perry class

 

[Krate M]

I think this is a response to the attack on PNS zulfiqar and PNS azmat. Quick response by the Pakistani government.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Would be good addition for Pakistani Coast Guard duties and anti norcotics

We need boats for normal patrol

8 of these beauties would make great addition for patrol duties for coastal areas

 

[Jaam92]

First JF 17 and now this
Navy good Job

 

[Basel]

@Penguin do think these boats are bang of the buck or PN could get better ones in the same amount? the fiber glass hull is highlighted as very good feature of this boat, what really it offers and what benefit it gives over other boats? Can PN get same / similar boats from other supplier cheaper if they are so desperately needed? and are those the same which previously provide by US to Pakistan?

 

[C130]

should put the M230LF on it
or buy some of these beauties

 

[Basel]

@C130 can't see what you posted, if its youtube file then it is banned in Pakistan. Please post some other link.

 

[Penguin]

What is a cutter?

Cutter may refer to several types of nautical vessels:

• In frequent modern usage, a cutter is a small- or medium-sized vessel whose occupants exercise official authority.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_(boat)

 

[Penguin]

@Penguin do think these boats are bang of the buck or PN could get better ones in the same amount? the fiber glass hull is highlighted as very good feature of this boat, what really it offers and what benefit it gives over other boats? Can PN get same / similar boats from other supplier cheaper if they are so desperately needed? and are those the same which previously provide by US to Pakistan?

This Specifications | GRC 43 | Response, Rescue & Interdiction Vessel appears similar to e.g. Stan Patrol 4207 - Stan Patrol - Ranges - Damen

For Mexico, two StanPatrol 4207 patrol boats – ARM Tenochtitlan (PC-331) and ARM Teotihuacan (PC-332) were built at a cost of $9 million USD each at ASTIMAR 1 in Tampico, Tamaulipas and completed in April and May 2012.
Mexico Becomes Latest User of Damen’s StanPatrol 4207 Patrol Boat | Defense Media Network

But, that's probably just the boats.They are fitted with a stern ramp launched rigid hull inflatable boat (RHIB) and armed with two 0.50 caliber heavy machine guns

As compared to:
8x 43-meter Global Response Cutters (GRC43M).
8x 25mm or 30mm Naval Gun Systems,
32x M2-HB .50 caliber machine guns,
32x 7.62mm guns,
8x 8-meter Rigid Inflatable Boats,
ballistic/armor protection of critical spaces,
command and control equipment,
communication equipment,
navigation equipment,
support equipment,
spare and repair parts,
tools and test equipment,
technical data and publications,
personnel training,
U.S. government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and
other related elements of logistics and program support.
(The total estimated cost for this package is $350 million.)

It may well be that the basic boats are only 1/4th of this total amount....

Interestingly:
"For Damen, the Mexican Navy is the twelfth customer for its StanPatrol 4207 series of “enlarged” patrol boats, of which there are at least 26 in service worldwide, with close to another 100 under construction or on option, the majority of them for the U.S. Coast Guard."
Mexico Becomes Latest User of Damen’s StanPatrol 4207 Patrol Boat | Defense Media Network

Coast Guard’s long-awaited Fast Response Cutters: The Sentinel class is based on an existing design, the Damen Stan Patrol 4708, designed and built by Damen Shipbuilding in the Netherlands.
Sentinel-class Fast Response Cutters | Defense Media Network

Damen Stan 4200 patrol vessel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On September 26, 2008, Bollinger Shipyards was awarded US$88 million to build a prototype

Sentinel-class cutter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That makes an expense of $44 million per boat sound very reasonable, doesn't it...?